Questions on Lord Krishna- To Rajinder Nath

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Rajinder Nath

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Re: [vedic astrology]

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12/09/03 08:15 Lord Krishna

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come on mukund this is to please primary school

childer as krishna is a given name see similarity to

christan and since atma is all omnipotent

and omniscience and omnipresent so think

krishna as a atam and he is god as child as warrior as

adviser to arguna it is all

wise man story .

i would say it was harry potter of the time

but hindus live in past so is there god and do all

mockery for their greed in present.

west common people dont have much hang over about

collecting and keeping they work they spend

and die not leaving much stone to temple.

we save and dont do much charity in life and when

dieing give away all the non milk giving cow to

brahmin.

if dont trust me read the nikit story of upanisad

when he quis his father his father gave away his

own son and nikit has good dialage with god of death.

i dont mean socety in west is all saintly

but my point is we can only live and clene our own

center so the bigger circle around us rediate

and pleasing back to us.

i believe seeing poverty all around world is

making us part of it and it will hit us someday if

dont redically find way for happiness for all

humannkind.

regards

my krishna lives in my heart and its center is in your

heart aswell,

the gopi and his wife are stories made by humans

to sing his song and atman krishna was pure conscios

and mingle in everything.

so conflit is in mind and body is matter atman

is free from those boundries i see that is

a deeper meanibng of lella.

 

--- Gauranga Das <gauranga wrote:

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Mukund,

>

> Namaste.

>

>

> > Dear Gentlepeople:

> >

> > Yesterday I visited a Radha-Krishna temple. While

> at the temple I

> > realized that since I was a child, I've heard

> stories about "leela"

> > between Radha and Krishna and "leela" between

> Gopis and Krishna;

> > however, I've never heard anything about Lord

> Krishna's wife. I also

> > realized that I am ignorant on many other things

> about Lord Krishna,

> > I'm hoping some learned member may post the

> answers.

> >

> > Here are some questions:

> >

> > 1) Who is the legally wedded wife of Lord Krishna?

>

> In Vrindavana-leela, Lord Krishna had no wives. In

> Dwaraka-leela Krishna

> married 16108 queens, the main of whom was

> Rukmini-devi.

>

> > 2) Did Lord Krishna have any progeny? If yes, who

> are they?

>

> Each of His 16108 wives gave birth to 10 children,

> and each of his children

> had 10 shildren also. Aniruddha is one His famous

> sons.

>

> > 3) Was Lord Krishna a Brahmin or a Shatriya

> (warrior class)?

>

> He appears in every Varna in fdifferent

> incarnations. In Vrindavana-leela He

> was a member of the Vaishya community, as He was the

> son of Nanda Maharaja

> and Yasoda-devi. In Dwaraka he was a Kshatriya, as

> He was the son of

> Vasudeva and Devaki. In Rama-leela again He was a

> kshatriya, and when He

> appeared as Vamanadeva and Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu,

> He was a brahmana.

>

> > 4) How did Lord Krishna die?

> >

> > I remember a story that Lord Krisna died because a

> hunter (Pardhi)

> > found an arrow in a jungle and used that arrow to

> hunt. This arrow

> > then struck Lord Krishna is his toe and Lord

> Krishna died because

> > his "atma" resided in his toe.

>

> > Is this an accurate story? If yes, why did Lord

> Krishna, the creator

> > of the universe and the orator of the Hindu way of

> life die at the

> > hands of an ordinary hunter? Was Lord Krishna born

> with some karmic

> > deficiencies that led to a voilent death at the

> hands of a hunter?

> > Why didn't Lord Krishna die at a holy place like

> Haridwar or Nepal or

> > some sacred place in the Himalayas?

>

> Lord Krishna returned to His spiritual abode, Goloka

> Vrindavana at the age

> of 125. This pastime is described in detail in the

> XIth Skandha of the

> Bhagavata Purana. The incident with the hunter was

> enacted just to bewilder

> the atheists. It is common sense that no human being

> will die if his toe is

> hit by an arrow. And definitely the Supreme

> Personality fo Godhead will not

> be harmed. However He left back an illusory body,

> just to bewilder the

> atheists, who think that Lord Krishna is also a mere

> mortal.

>

> > Also, why didn't Lord Krishna get a glorious

> death like Bhisma

> > Pitamah or like Yudhisthir who ascended to heaven.

> >

> > If the story I noted above is incorrect, then how

> did Lord Krishna

> > die?

> >

> > Dear Gentlepeople, I ask this with utmost respect

> for Lord Krishna

> > and I ask this only to educate myself. In fact, it

> is embarassing

> > that I'm Hindu and a Brahmin YET I don't know

> these facts related to

> > Lord Krishna.

>

> Well, if you visit the nearest ISKCON temple, you

> can purchase all of Srila

> Prabhupada's books, and you can educate yourself

> about these questions. Or

> you may go to the web and read it at

> www.srimbadbhagavatam.org.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga

> Jyotish Remedies:

> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

> Phone:+36-309-140-839

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

sorry,in summary all this mean is we call god by many

name and one is krishna.

we have made many stories out of our love for god.

just as jesus was born to virgin is cover up story

so is krishna died while shot at toe by a hunter

will never make a sense and i dont think his behave

was like clinton in white house .

it was directed krishna as human soul which nither

dies and not born.but we are clever in stories

making so we have to put all the exitment for

mind gratification.

though character krishana is a philosopher and

help you solve the most difficult and complex problem

of human mind and it rest you in duty as dharma and do

duty for duty sake leave result to

krishna or christo does not make differancee.

see when godmen is born or dies the difficulty

is the place , they dont belong here so christ and

krishna was born kind of unique environment

so there death was even death of that time.

as time is a measurment tool and it does not exist

for them.

raj

 

 

--- ajith wrote:

>

> Your mail is incoherent and extremely difficult to

> make sense off. Pse use

> spell check.

>

> K. Ajith

>

> >

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello Mr. Nath:

 

So, what you're saying is that there was never a person named Krishna

or Jesus and the stories about them is just mythology and Krshina or

Jesus is just a way of life and thinking.

 

If your assumption is correct, how do you explain the remains of city

of Dwarka dating back to 3000 B.C. right around the time of Krishna?

And how does one explain archeological evidence relating to the

existence of Jesus in Galilee and later in Jerusalam?

 

I think there was a real person named Krishna who was an incarnation

of God and the stories we hear about him are true, even though the

stories about 16,000 wives and 10 children with each wife seem a bit

absurd.

 

What do you think?

 

Mr. Nath, are you a Hindu-Jat or a Sikh? Do the Sikh believe in

Krishna, Vedic astrology and the philosophy professed by Geeta?

 

Is Guru Granth Sahib a derivative of Geeta or a totally different

religion?

 

Mukund

 

 

vedic astrology, Rajinder Nath

<jinderman> wrote:

> sorry,in summary all this mean is we call god by many

> name and one is krishna.

> we have made many stories out of our love for god.

> just as jesus was born to virgin is cover up story

> so is krishna died while shot at toe by a hunter

> will never make a sense and i dont think his behave

> was like clinton in white house .

> it was directed krishna as human soul which nither

> dies and not born.but we are clever in stories

> making so we have to put all the exitment for

> mind gratification.

> though character krishana is a philosopher and

> help you solve the most difficult and complex problem

> of human mind and it rest you in duty as dharma and do

> duty for duty sake leave result to

> krishna or christo does not make differancee.

> see when godmen is born or dies the difficulty

> is the place , they dont belong here so christ and

> krishna was born kind of unique environment

> so there death was even death of that time.

> as time is a measurment tool and it does not exist

> for them.

> raj

>

>

> --- ajith@o... wrote:

> >

> > Your mail is incoherent and extremely difficult to

> > make sense off. Pse use

> > spell check.

> >

> > K. Ajith

> >

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

dear mukund,

you put a hard quit,i am nither sikh nor temple going

hindu i was born to family very restrict

and swami dayanand was a hero figure for my dad and i

got closer to my grand mother who daily

will go to shiva temple and once awhile my dad will

criticise her .

and i am of opinion each one of us are justified of

there believe and behaviour call it faith or blind

faith does not matter.

but there was real krishna or ram is not important to

me but book gita is .

there are christian people believe jesus was born

to virgin i think some decent man try to save

the poor mary from the haassel of the time and

christ step father must have lot of faith to bring

the child up.

see there is lot of simirality in early childhood

of krishna and christ .

they both born unique circumstance both were sxuupose

to be killed by the ruling authority and so on.

i am sure if history telles christ birth so krishna

must have been here too,

lot of things are kind of not belieable like arrow of

hunter hit him on toe.