Marriage Sensitive Point determination

December 28, 2003

Just a quick reply- yes, they seem to work. Called midpoints in western a.

Sun/Moon I have seen activated by Ju /Saturn even!/.

Warm regards,

Annasunil john <jjnet2000_in > wrote:

Dear Learned Astrologers,

Merry Christmas to all and a Happy New Year.

Recently I came across this work by Mr.M.K.Agarwal where he talks about Marriage

Sensitive Point determination. I would not be able to type the whole theory here

but just in short, also there were many other combinations that he mentioned

which i am omitting. If someone has had any result by applying these techniques

pls do reply.

Some Sensitive Points for Marriage

Pls note that in all these cases Jup in transit , must create relations with the

sensitive points sign within 6 deg (orb) on either side of the sensitive point:

# 7th Lord + Asc Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# 7th Lord + Asc Lord + Ven = Longitude of the sensitive point

# 7th Lord from Moon + Moon Sign Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# ASc - Ven + 7th Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# Asc - 7th Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# Asc - 7th Lord + 90 deg =Longitude of the sensitive point

Notes:

It is not necessary that all the above combinations should apply to each chart

Any combinations will apply to any chart subject to the strength of the

signifactor or the planet concerned forming the sensitive point

Consider the retrogade planet either in the birth chart or in transit from the previous house

If the retro planet is benefic as explained in the concerned chapter then the

benefic results are assured

He has gone on to explain in detail with diff combinations how the transits of

Jup and Sat and Karaka theory striking on this marriage sensitive point can

give marriage.

I wouldnt know the calculation of the Vivaha Sanam, but i presume that transits

of imp planets on the Vivaha Sanam can give marriage. Since right now the

discussion on marriage timing is happening i thought if anyone could share

their experiences in the above technique.

in one of the old issues of the Astrological Time, there were 2 articles on

determining the exact date of marriage , does anyone have that article, it must

be 10 yrs old issue.

Best love and Joy to all

Sunil John

Mumbai

Best regards, Sunil John

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December 28, 2003

Dear Anna,

A tiny correction: J. Sunil's mail reference to the sensitive points may look

like midpoints but they are not (not in accordance with R. Ebertins definition

of midpoints).

Kind regards/Jay Weiss

-

Anna

vedic astrology

Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:00 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Marriage Sensitive Point determination

Dear Sunil,

Just a quick reply- yes, they seem to work. Called midpoints in western a.

Sun/Moon I have seen activated by Ju /Saturn even!/.

Warm regards,

Annasunil john <jjnet2000_in > wrote:

Dear Learned Astrologers,

Merry Christmas to all and a Happy New Year.

Recently I came across this work by Mr.M.K.Agarwal where he talks about Marriage

Sensitive Point determination. I would not be able to type the whole theory here

but just in short, also there were many other combinations that he mentioned

which i am omitting. If someone has had any result by applying these techniques

pls do reply.

Some Sensitive Points for Marriage

Pls note that in all these cases Jup in transit , must create relations with the

sensitive points sign within 6 deg (orb) on either side of the sensitive point:

# 7th Lord + Asc Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# 7th Lord + Asc Lord + Ven = Longitude of the sensitive point

# 7th Lord from Moon + Moon Sign Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# ASc - Ven + 7th Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# Asc - 7th Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# Asc - 7th Lord + 90 deg =Longitude of the sensitive point

Notes:

It is not necessary that all the above combinations should apply to each chart

Any combinations will apply to any chart subject to the strength of the

signifactor or the planet concerned forming the sensitive point

Consider the retrogade planet either in the birth chart or in transit from the previous house

If the retro planet is benefic as explained in the concerned chapter then the

benefic results are assured

He has gone on to explain in detail with diff combinations how the transits of

Jup and Sat and Karaka theory striking on this marriage sensitive point can

give marriage.

I wouldnt know the calculation of the Vivaha Sanam, but i presume that transits

of imp planets on the Vivaha Sanam can give marriage. Since right now the

discussion on marriage timing is happening i thought if anyone could share

their experiences in the above technique.

in one of the old issues of the Astrological Time, there were 2 articles on

determining the exact date of marriage , does anyone have that article, it must

be 10 yrs old issue.

Best love and Joy to all

Sunil John

Mumbai

Best regards, Sunil John

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December 28, 2003

I've looked just at the beginning- you are right, it's like 'part of Fortune'

and other arabic parts calculation- your excellent perception is invaluable!

Thanks for correction! Soovy, Sunil! Haven't looked at these ones!

As for sensitive points, I haven't used many, except for part of fortune. Other

arabic points..hm.. that can /unnecessary/ complicate the picture /my opinion/

But I did find midpoints work- calculation is simple- midpoint between Ju /NT/

and Ur /NT does work too! for lotery winners ju/Pl..

For marriage I've never looked any other that Moon/Sun- but in fact even that

should be well supported by other indications. Thanks Jay, I'll try to check

out some of these points /despite 'aversion'/

Thanks Sunil for bringing them to our attention- I am 'biased', believe that

whole chart should be used- have seen so many techniques that ostensibly work,

but no consinstency at all. Just that Mo/Su seems to be more relevant..

I will tell you more when/if I explore this, LOL. Thanks anyway, friends!

Warmest regards,

Anna"J.-Weiss" <jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Anna,

A tiny correction: J. Sunil's mail reference to the sensitive points may look

like midpoints but they are not (not in accordance with R. Ebertins definition

of midpoints).

Kind regards/Jay Weiss

-

Anna

vedic astrology

Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:00 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Marriage Sensitive Point determination

Dear Sunil,

Just a quick reply- yes, they seem to work. Called midpoints in western a.

Sun/Moon I have seen activated by Ju /Saturn even!/.

Warm regards,

Annasunil john <jjnet2000_in > wrote:

Dear Learned Astrologers,

Merry Christmas to all and a Happy New Year.

Recently I came across this work by Mr.M.K.Agarwal where he talks about Marriage

Sensitive Point determination. I would not be able to type the whole theory here

but just in short, also there were many other combinations that he mentioned

which i am omitting. If someone has had any result by applying these techniques

pls do reply.

Some Sensitive Points for Marriage

Pls note that in all these cases Jup in transit , must create relations with the

sensitive points sign within 6 deg (orb) on either side of the sensitive point:

# 7th Lord + Asc Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# 7th Lord + Asc Lord + Ven = Longitude of the sensitive point

# 7th Lord from Moon + Moon Sign Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# ASc - Ven + 7th Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# Asc - 7th Lord = Longitude of the sensitive point

# Asc - 7th Lord + 90 deg =Longitude of the sensitive point

Notes:

It is not necessary that all the above combinations should apply to each chart

Any combinations will apply to any chart subject to the strength of the

signifactor or the planet concerned forming the sensitive point

Consider the retrogade planet either in the birth chart or in transit from the previous house

If the retro planet is benefic as explained in the concerned chapter then the

benefic results are assured

He has gone on to explain in detail with diff combinations how the transits of

Jup and Sat and Karaka theory striking on this marriage sensitive point can

give marriage.

I wouldnt know the calculation of the Vivaha Sanam, but i presume that transits

of imp planets on the Vivaha Sanam can give marriage. Since right now the

discussion on marriage timing is happening i thought if anyone could share

their experiences in the above technique.

in one of the old issues of the Astrological Time, there were 2 articles on

determining the exact date of marriage , does anyone have that article, it must

be 10 yrs old issue.

Best love and Joy to all

Sunil John

Mumbai

Best regards, Sunil John

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December 28, 2003

Thanks for your post. I have found two things from my small observation of a few charts.

1. Sat has to aspect 7th house/7th Lord - saturn creates the environment

2. Jupiters has to bless (aspect)

3. Another alternative fast track technique which works in 50% of the cases i

have heard is that Jup Sat should aspect the Darakara during marriage

On another note of the MK Agarwal Marriage Sensitive Point theory - there are

many things to it, but i particularly found it working when longitude of the

Asc and 7th Lord were combined and then aspects on that sensitive point was

visible. On the day of the marriage or union among live in partners Ven had to

play some role. This was from an observation of only a few charts and not

necessary to form a conclusion that the technique works. The author himself

says that one has to combine most of the techniques and i presume one has to

use his intuition as to which technique will work when making future

prediction.

Can Anna kindly outline the technique of the moon/Sun i was unable to understand

that, can you pls expand on it. From your email i could gather that you might

not be pleased in exploring this further, if there is some distaste , no

worries i would agree that u might want to leave this discussion for now.

Has any member seen this technique work. I always wondered how some astrologers

could predict the exact date of marriage but these days no author speaks about

it in any books.

I have heard that K N Raos mother used to predict the exact date of marriage.

although to the full extent i didnt outline Mr.Agarwals theories since it would

consume lot of space, but at certain point i felt some of his techniques were

post moterm techniques rather than being predictive techniques although to be

honest I should react to it only after having mastered his book.

I am not married but can anyone who is married here pls check and see if these

techniques can be applied to pinpoint the exact event. I presume indian

astrology is famous for its timing )

Best love and Joy

Sunil John

Mumbai

PS:

here i s what he speaks about Jupiters transit

Jups TRansit

In addition to Saturns transit during a particular period examine whether Jup

also creates any relation by way of conjunction or aspect as follows:

1. Juip during transit, must create relation with 7th house or 7th lord from

ASc, from Moon or Signifactor ( ven for male and Jup for female) or Lords of

their stars. Consider only the strongest and benefic planets.

2. Jup must transit a start which is 2,4,6,8,9 star from Moons star

3. Jup transit Moons star/Moon sign within 6 deg

4. Jup transit 5/9 from Rahus position in natal chart ( this i have found

working in some charts if i remember correcting - SJ)

5. Jup transit Navamsa position of 7th house lord

8. Jup creates relation with Jup or Ven by conjunction or aspect

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December 28, 2003

Yes, it's true that I do not pay much attention /and don't like/ one million of

sensitive points- if you would include them, horoscope becomes so 'heavy'

overloaded, no use of it.

My opinion, should I say!

I totally agree with your observations!

Just about my experience- Sa transit over Asc or Desc. USUALLY does set the

stage for marriage- I've learnt /in western a/ and found it true- and I also

accept explanation: the native becomes ready for 'marriage obligation' /don't

forget marriage is not \just\ about love, ha ha

/Some authors say that Saturn in bad aspect , quincus to Sun or Moon, does the

same- seems it works- I haven't explored enough/

Jupiter too has to be significantly placed, 'to bless' as you said- perhaps

/Interesting, position of Ju trans. in the chart very often indicates what the

native will get from that marriage - if in 10th-status, in 2nd.money.etc..

Personal experience? Wanna hear one: I got married with Saturn in 1st, As of

Venus, it was my Venus MD, Rahu AD/from 8th- fits well, I was pregnant!/-

husband's NT Sa was on my Asc, to double the dosage of Sa.. Than my son was

born, with Sa on my Asc- all of that only Cancer lagna can survive /just

kidding!/

Ah, Plus I had Sapphire+diamond necklace /marriage present/at the wedding ceremony!

Moon/Sun midpoint is in-between them, same distance from each- seems to work in

conjunction as well as opposition. /Say Sun in Ar- Moon in Li - midpoint is

same degree of Cap/Can -because I used opposition as an example- it's normally

one point/

Hope I clarified this-

Best wishes,

Annasunil john <jjnet2000_in > wrote:

Dear Anna and Jay,