Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Dear All i am forwarding another mail from Chandrashekhar ji. Dear Chandrashekhar ji I am thankful for this very valuable information which will be hard to find for the new generation.I will comeback after reading your mail carefully. Respect Pradeep ------------------------------- Dear Pradeep, The Navamsha system is based on the nakshatra padas. About in dual Rasis the navamsha of 9th from the rasi being the beginning or 5th for the Sthira rasi, check again. The rule is 1st navamsha of the rashi itself for Chara, %th navamsha correspondences the Rasi for Sthira and Ninth Navamsha is the rasi itself for Dual. This is an easy way to remember the vargottama navamsha in any Rasi. Navamsha is the application of both Lagna and Chandra Lagna principles,jointly, to a chart . Bringing in Rahu and Ketu in Graham, though attractive and accepted in modern times and considered in modern day Divisional charts, they were considered in Navamsha but not in other chart in ancient times. The reason that The tatwas match is that they appear with a multiple of 4 in Rasis and in 108 navamshas they are bound to repeat identically in Navamsha. They would not repeat in all D-Charts. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Dear Chandrashekhar ji I am unable to find the relation of nakshathra padas and the tattwa. For example.Aries contains ashwathi,bharani ,karttika lorded by Ketu,Venus and Sun. Now each pada corresponds to 1 navamsha and within ashwathi(ashwini) itself each navamsha or nakshathra padas are governed by lords of Ar,Ta,Ge & Ca respectively.So is there any logic to relate Ketu (ruler of ashwini) with this. Regarding Rule your reference was pointing to the vargottama navamsha in each rashi and mine was pointing to the beginning in each rashi.Both are matching.example for sag 5th from itself is the beginning ie Aries and hence ninth navamsha is the rashi itself (vargottama). Principles of Chandra Lagnam and Lagnam combined? If you can explain this it will be more helpful. Thanks for the valuable info regarding treatement of Rahu and Ketu during ancient times. Yes as the tattwas were four in number it will work in all D-charts which are multiples of four. Wish you all success at Puri conference. I had already planned my holidays in january to India(Kerala) and unfortunately cannot attend. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear All i am forwarding another mail from Chandrashekhar ji. > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > I am thankful for this very valuable information which will be hard > to find for the new generation.I will comeback after reading your > mail carefully. > > Respect > Pradeep > > ------------------------------- > Dear Pradeep, > The Navamsha system is based on the nakshatra padas. About in dual > Rasis > the navamsha of 9th from the rasi being the beginning or 5th for the > Sthira rasi, check again. The rule is 1st navamsha of the rashi > itself > for Chara, %th navamsha correspondences the Rasi for Sthira and > Ninth > Navamsha is the rasi itself for Dual. This is an easy way to > remember > the vargottama navamsha in any Rasi. Navamsha is the application of > both > Lagna and Chandra Lagna principles,jointly, to a chart . Bringing in > Rahu and Ketu in Graham, though attractive and accepted in modern > times > and considered in modern day Divisional charts, they were considered > in > Navamsha but not in other chart in ancient times. > The reason that The tatwas match is that they appear with a multiple > of > 4 in Rasis and in 108 navamshas they are bound to repeat identically > in > Navamsha. They would not repeat in all D-Charts. > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Mail came to my inbox alone.... --- Dear Pradeep, I thought that you were reffering to something else, in the matter of the starting navamsha. As to the Tatwa repetition, look at it in mathematical fashion and the reason would be clear. Tatwas of Rasis are defined by the 1st pada-lord of the part or whole of a Nakshatra that the rasi begins with. The connection of Ketu with Ashwini is connected with the saying "Kujawat Ketu". and corresponds to Mars being ruler of the 1st pada. Or at least I think this is the reason. Chandra is related to Nakshatras through mythology, and the navamsha system of Varga is based on the Nakshatra pada system was the reason of the remark about combination of Chandra lagna and Lagna. The system reiterates the importance of Nakshatras as in Vimshottary based on Moon's position in the birth nakshatra and is also known (Vimshottary) as Nakshatra Dasha system. This is why the debilitation or exaltation of a planet in Navamsha overrules the indication of their contrary placement in Rasi. This is not the case with other Varga charts. Chadrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > I am unable to find the relation of nakshathra padas and the tattwa. > For example.Aries contains ashwathi,bharani ,karttika lorded by > Ketu,Venus and Sun. > Now each pada corresponds to 1 navamsha and within ashwathi (ashwini) > itself each navamsha or nakshathra padas are governed by lords of > Ar,Ta,Ge & Ca respectively.So is there any logic to relate Ketu > (ruler of ashwini) with this. > > Regarding Rule your reference was pointing to the vargottama > navamsha in each rashi and mine was pointing to the beginning in > each rashi.Both are matching.example for sag 5th from itself is the > beginning ie Aries and hence ninth navamsha is the rashi itself > (vargottama). > > Principles of Chandra Lagnam and Lagnam combined? If you can explain > this it will be more helpful. > > Thanks for the valuable info regarding treatement of Rahu and Ketu > during ancient times. > > Yes as the tattwas were four in number it will work in all D-charts > which are multiples of four. > > Wish you all success at Puri conference. I had already planned my > holidays in january to India(Kerala) and unfortunately cannot attend. > > Thanks > Pradeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 You said:"This is not the case with other Varga charts"- /Naks. pada/ which implies that you do not consider degrees in varga charts, in navamsa either. I am wondering about the reasons some astrologers include degrees-I assume that is for determining either aspects ot naksatras, or both. Great explanation of the reason why Navamsa position of a planet is so important!Best wishes, Annavijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: Mail came to my inbox alone....---Dear Pradeep,I thought that you were reffering to something else, in the matter of the starting navamsha. As to the Tatwa repetition, look at it in mathematical fashion and the reason would be clear. Tatwas of Rasis are defined by the 1st pada-lord of the part or whole of a Nakshatra that the rasi begins with. The connection of Ketu with Ashwini is connected with the saying "Kujawat Ketu". and corresponds to Mars being ruler of the 1st pada. Or at least I think this is the reason.Chandra is related to Nakshatras through mythology, and the navamsha system of Varga is based on the Nakshatra pada system was the reason of the remark about combination of Chandra lagna and Lagna. The system reiterates the importance of Nakshatras as in Vimshottary based on Moon's position in the birth nakshatra and is also known(Vimshottary) as Nakshatra Dasha system. This is why the debilitation or exaltation of a planet in Navamsha overrules the indication of their contrary placement in Rasi. This is not the case with other Varga charts.Chadrashekhar.vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> Dear Chandrashekhar ji>> I am unable to find the relation of nakshathra padas and the tattwa.> For example.Aries contains ashwathi,bharani ,karttika lorded by> Ketu,Venus and Sun.> Now each pada corresponds to 1 navamsha and within ashwathi(ashwini)> itself each navamsha or nakshathra padas are governed by lords of> Ar,Ta,Ge & Ca respectively.So is there any logic to relate Ketu> (ruler of ashwini) with this.>> Regarding Rule your reference was pointing to the vargottama> navamsha in each rashi and mine was pointing to the beginning in> each rashi.Both are matching.example for sag 5th from itself is the> beginning ie Aries and hence ninth navamsha is the rashi itself> (vargottama).>> Principles of Chandra Lagnam and Lagnam combined? If you can explain> this it will be more helpful.>> Thanks for the valuable info regarding treatement of Rahu and Ketu> during ancient times.>> Yes as the tattwas were four in number it will work in all D-charts> which are multiples of four.>> Wish you all success at Puri conference. I had already planned my> holidays in january to India(Kerala) and unfortunately cannot attend.>> Thanks> PradeepArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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