Guest guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 It is heartening to read your post, and to know there is still scope for reseaech and improvement. Thanks"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Sudharsan, I think the default in JHora is to take Sun, Moon and lagna all and see the strongest. In your chart, definitely Sun is stronger than others. There was a time when Sanjay ji disagreed with me on using Sun and insisted that Sun could not be used for initiating Moola dasa, even though Varahamihira, Prithu Yasas and Kalyana Verma were all in favor of using Sun too. In his latest mail on and varahamihira lists, he posted his Moola dasa and he initiated it from Sun. I assume that he now agrees that Sun can be used as the seed when he is stronger than Moon and lagna. I hope that that controversy - created entirely by Sanjay ji, as no classic supported his view - can be put behind us now and that we have one less parameter to worry about. However, it will be foolish of me (or anybody for that matter) to claim that we have resolved everything. Classics are not very clear on all the details and the transmission of knowledge from one generation to another in our tradition may not have been free of corruption. It is upto scholars to work on a lot of practical examples and resolve unclear details. In his discussion of Sudarsana Chakra, Parasara discussed the use of the three references - Sun, Moon and lagna. If Sun or Moon is with lagna, Parasara said lagna may be given priority and one need not analyze all the three references. Though that comment was in a different context, one may experiment and extend it to Moola dasa initiation. We have to start the dasa from the quadrants of Sun or Moon or lagna. Suppose Moon and lagna are in mutual quadrants (as in your case) and Sun is elsewhere. Perhaps we can then give priority to lagna and Moon as both work together and ignore Sun even if he is with more planets than Moon and lagna. If that were the case, Moola dasa would start from Moon in your chart. I am not saying that this is the rule, but this is a serious possibility. Only by considering such possibilities and experimenting with real charts can one get to the final truth. Those who are interested in SJC and serious Jyotish should not think that we have perfect knowledge and you can learn it from us. It makes me very uncomfortable to think that some people ask me questions expecting a conclusive answer and a final word. It will be dishonest of me to encourage such blind faith in me. Our knowledge is definitely imperfect, but, I may add, closer to perfection than in any other group or organization that I know of. Our only goal is to work _honestly_ towards restoring the pristine glory of Jyotish and lay the stepping stones for another generation to succeed in that, perhaps 50 or 100 years from now. As I make further progress on Moola dasa, I will be making JHora more and more perfect and also give more and more options so that interested people can experiment. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha www.VedicAstrologer.org > Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Narasimha Guru and Gurujis,> > Thank you for an answer to an issue that was bothering me and interestingly enough I was contemplating about it this morning, i guess the Deva Guru heard my prayers. > > There is a pitru shaapa in my Rasi chart that Visti very kindly taught me to analyze. But I could never reconcile myself with the Moola dasa that was generated in JHORA because when I underwent the suffering due to the curse,the dasas of the planets involved in the curse were not operating. But today after your post I changed my initiation option for Moola Dasa from Sun to the Moon and now everything has fallen into place.My question to you is > > a) does Jhora automatically calculate the strength of Lagna, Moon or Sun ? My question is because if we select all the options in Moola Dasa, in my case it starts from the sun.But that does not explain the curse in my Rasi chart only moon as the initiator explains.> > b) If Jhora automatically calculates the strengths, what is strength based on? In my case the Sun would be a choice because it conjoins Rahu and Saturn while the Moon and Lagna are unoccupied.But unfortunately to my untrained mind the dasas so initiated do not explain my curse.> > > I have attached my chart as a reference point. The curse involves the Sun in Pisces afflicted by Saturn and Rahu. Saturn lords the 4th and my basic education was in turmoil during my higher secondary and undergraduation(Moola Dasa of Saturn 1981-1989). Rahu lords the fifth and it put me through difficulties between > (1990-1997).These dates are accurate only if the Moon is chosen as an option. > > I would be grateful if you could kindly clarify my questions.> > > Hare Krishna> > Sudharsan Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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