TWIN BROTHERS/ONE IN DISTRESS..GURUS PLS RESPOND!!

June 19, 2003

---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

Dear Ragini,

If possible, can you send the charts of the parents? Any other

siblings?

regards

Hari

vedic astrology, as saf <astro_learner>

wrote:

>

> Respected Members/Gurus,

> I recently came across two charts who look alike.I mean they are

of twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The

elder one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant .He

is brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and

is now practicing law.

> I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed to

site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows

affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape

because the tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The

younger one is doing fine for the family but they are worried about

the elder one...what will happen to him after their death?Whether he

will regain consciousness if ever?I am really worried for them.Could

the respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has a chance

for him in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born

retarded and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their

son should live long since no one is going to take care of him after

their death or atleast they are worried so.

> I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in the lagna with moon

in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the affliction be so

serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus

aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides

other yogas in the chart.

> I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native

who is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental

balance of the individual would be welcome and also if he cant get

cured what is the age of the native since the mother is really

worried for her son.Can the age be different for two brothers when

the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast the age group I think

should be similar.

> Elder son-

> june 24 1967

> 7:15 AM

> Latitude: 30° 22' N

> Longitude: 75° 53' E

> Younger son -

> june 24 1967

> 8:35 am

> Latitude: 30° 22' N

> Longitude: 75° 53' E

> Regards,

> Ragini

>

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June 20, 2003

Om Sreem Suragurave Brihaspataye Namah

Namaste Ragini,

> Respected Members/Gurus,> I recently came across two charts who look alike.I

mean they are of twins but there is whole lot of difference in their lives.The

elder one is retarded mentally and the younger one is brilliant .He is

brilliant in his studies.He has done Law , MBA , Engneering and is now

practicing law.> I looked through the D-charts of both the brothers but failed

to site the affliction in the elder ones chart.Which D chart shows

affliction?His parents are getting old and are in a bad shape because the

tension of their son doesnt let them in peace.The younger one is doing fine for

the family but they are worried about the elder one...what will happen to him

after their death?Whether he will regain consciousness if ever?I am really

worried for them.Could the respected Gurus shed light whether the elder one has

a chance for him in this life in repsect of his mental balance?He was born

retarded and hasnt developed this.The parents dont wish that their son should

live long since no one is going to take care of him after their death or

atleast they are worried so.> I am just amazed inspite of exalted jupiter in

the lagna with moon in the seventh forming gaajkesari yoga how can the

affliction be so serious after moon is a karka for mind and jupiter and venus

aspecting it form good yogas with also chandra adhi yoga besides other yogas in

the chart.> I pray to all the learned Gurus to help the mother of the native who

is in distress.All the suggestions for the restoration of mental balance of the

individual would be welcome and also if he cant get cured what is the age of

the native since the mother is really worried for her son.Can the age be

different for two brothers when the rasi chart is going to be the same?atleast

the age group I think should be similar.> Elder son-> june 24 1967> 7:15 AM>

Latitude: 30° 22' N > Longitude: 75° 53' E > Younger son -> june 24

1967> 8:35 am> Latitude: 30° 22' N > Longitude: 75° 53' E > Regards,>

Ragini

Just a few observations:

Pranapada lagna described by Parasara shows the life energy present in one.

Pranapada means "base of the lifeforce".

In the first chart, not only is lagna is in the early degrees of Cancer, but

Pranapada lagna is in Gandanta. It is in the first degree of Aries.

Secondly, the strength of lagna lord is very important for intelligence and

overall well-being. In the first chart, Moon is in Ghora (terrible) nadi, while

Moon moved to Prabhaa (glow) nadi by the time the second child was born.

Trimsamsa shows the weakness in constitution. It is a negative chart. Exalted

Moon occupies D-30 lagna. It is evil for lagna lord of rasi chart (who

represents the essence of a person) to occupy Trimsamsa lagna. He shows some

problems related to fluids (because he is in a sign owned by Venus in D-30) in

the head.

Another variation of D-30 shows the punishment to sins (please refer to

"Shashtyamsa like Trimsamsa" in commercial JHora). In this D-30 of the elder

twin, lagna lord of rasi chart (Moon) is in Marana Karaka sthana (death-causing

station), while lagna is afflictged by Ketu. D-27 is the chart of inherent

strengths and weaknesses. Lagna lord of rasi chart is placed in marana karaka

sthana in this chart too.

Overall, not only is lagna Moon in Nidra avastha (sleeping state, as per

Sayanaadi avasthas), but he is in marana karaka sthana in the charts showing

punishment to past sins and inherent strengths and weaknesses.

But, had Pranapada lagna been somewhere else instead of the Gandanta, things

would've been far better. To me, that's the key. The younger twin's PPL is in

the 11th degree of Taurus.

Even though lagna is the same, horalagna is different. So longevities can be

different. Please calculate them using the standard rules. But, until Sun's

Ashtottari dasa during 2024-2030, I don't see a fatal period for the elder

twin. Sun is with Rahu in Aq, in the 7th house in D-30 (shashtyamsa like D-30).

Ketu is with exalted Jupiter in D-60 and occupies Brahmamsa (Brahma = birth or

rebirth). Ketu's Moola dasa runs till 2008. There is some potential in this

dasa for being cured. Jupiter's antardasa in 2005-06 offers the best hope.

Jupiter and Ketu occupy A9 in D-60. They represent the dharma he followed in

last life. During 2005-06, a spiritual master with past life connection may

bless him out of his troubles. The chance is not great, but this is the only

period of hope I see.

Ask the parents to keep praying until then. Tell the mother to just keep praying

to Shiva with Mahamrityunjaya mantram everyday (11 times everyday) until then. I

advise them to undertake a 11-day Rudrabhishekam starting at 9:50 am (IST) on

18th August 2005 and going on till 28th August 2005. They will find a spiritual

guru by then who will help them with the Rudrabhishekam. Within a year from the

Rudrabhishekam, there may be an accident (perhaps in November 2005-January

2006) which may cure the native.

I sincerely pray that the prayers of his parents be answered.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

June 20, 2003

Namaste Ragini,

I forgot to mention something very important.

When one gets an advice from an astrologer, it is important to offer dakshina in

order to receive the maximum benefit from the advice. Please pass on my advice

to the parents of the twins and request them to donate a small amount that they

can easily afford at a Shiva temple in my name (P.V.R. Narasimha Rao). It will

keep them free from karmic debt and also they will benefit from my advice to

the fullest.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

> Ketu is with exalted Jupiter in D-60 and occupies Brahmamsa (Brahma = birth or

rebirth). Ketu's Moola dasa runs till 2008. There is some potential in this dasa

for being cured. Jupiter's antardasa in 2005-06 offers the best hope. Jupiter

and Ketu occupy A9 in D-60. They represent the dharma he followed in last life.

During 2005-06, a spiritual master with past life connection may bless him out

of his troubles. The chance is not great, but this is the only period of hope I

see.> > Ask the parents to keep praying until then. Tell the mother to just

keep praying to Shiva with Mahamrityunjaya mantram everyday (11 times everyday)

until then. I advise them to undertake a 11-day Rudrabhishekam starting at 9:50

am (IST) on 18th August 2005 and going on till 28th August 2005. They will find

a spiritual guru by then who will help them with the Rudrabhishekam. Within a

year from the Rudrabhishekam, there may be an accident (perhaps in November

2005-January 2006) which may cure the native.> > I sincerely pray that the

prayers of his parents be answered.> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,>

Narasimha

June 20, 2003

---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

Dear Naramsimha,

Call it intuition or otherwise but I was expecting you to come out

of seclusion and answer this toughest of tough cases! In my foolish

overenthusiasm, I had submitted my humble attempt to analyse the

case! Nevertheless, I felt the lagna would make a major difference

in this case but who is to know about pranapada lagna? The name

itself can be connected to the life's breath or the energy of the

individual in short?

Secondly I had concentrated on the "physical" plane of activities

viz., health and education. It is indeed an eyeopener to consider

higher planes of activities for attempting cases of this type.

Narasimha, in your book you have said if the method of three pairs

give different results and Moon be in lagna or 7th, then the Moon +

Saturn pair must be taken as the basis. Add to this, the fleeting

observation that twins generally die in similar circumstances and I

must ask the question why do you feel the lagna + hora lagna will

make a difference in this case?

The predictions given by you are, for want of any other word, simply

amazing. In this case, we can only pray and hope the almighty will

shower divine grace on the parents and the twins.

regards

Hari

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

June 20, 2003

Thanks much for this analysis- it will take certainly more time for me, to study

this chart as per your directions. However, I can see right away obstacles to my

understaning: I neither use nor am I familiar with concepts I highlighted bellow

Pranapada lagna described by Parasara shows the life energy present in one.

Pranapada means "base of the lifeforce".

1. (A) How do I get this, obviously important Lagna? Would you please jot down

some instruction, please?

-next, can you suggest any reading available on this

In the first chart, not only is lagna is in the early degrees of

2. (A) I've met, though rarely, that 'maturity concept apllies to lagna degree-

haven's seen this explicitly stated as in your post here.

It is disadvantage, like with any other planet to occupy early degrees of the

sign /0-5/- How would that be understood? Please elaborate on this

Secondly, the strength of lagna lord is very important for intelligence and

overall well-being. In the first chart, Moon is in Ghora (terrible) nadi, while

Moon moved to Prabhaa (glow) nadi by the time the second child was born.

(A) Narasimha, please guide here: on various Moon nadi,

reading, how do we go about finding each of them /I suppose there are more than

2 nadi position/mentioned above/

All in all crucial things seem to be 'terra incognita', unless you provide more info.

I can sense mental enjoyment at the prospect of exploring this further.

Thanks,

Anna

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June 20, 2003

dear pvr ji,

namaste, an enlightening analysis indeed.

whenever you find time, can you plz enlighten more on the nadis, and how to use it?

regards

jk

-

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

vedic astrology

Friday, June 20, 2003 9:42 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: TWIN BROTHERS/ONE IN DISTRESS..GURUS PLS RESPOND!!