Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Namaste all, It is not a great idea to rely on simplistic dictionaries. The meaning quoted by Chandrashekhar ji is too restrictive. Fire doesn't have to be physical fire that we can see. There are various kinds of fire within our own bodies. For example, it is the agni (fire) in the digestive system that causes hunger and also digests food. It is also agni in the brain that makes us learn and understand things. There are so many fires (agnis) within the human body. Agni is basically a transforming energy. Offering is not necessarily made to a material/external agni. In fact, agni is one of the 5 basic elements. One has to correctly realize the meanings of these five elements. If one thinks that agni is physical fire, jala is physical water, bhoo is physical earth and so on, one will be at pains to explain how and why this whole universe is said to be made of the five elements. A mantra for awakening Anahata chakra is "Kleem Krishnaaya Govindaaya Gopijanavallabhaaya Swaahaa". This is not necessarily read while throwing material offerings into fire. This mantra is meant for surrendering the individual soul, which typically resides in Anahata chakra, to the Ishta devata (represented by Krishna). Anahata chakra contains two sparks - individual soul and ishta devata. This mantra is meant for surrendering to the ishta devata. There are many such examples that contain "Swaahaa" and do not involve pouring ghee or something into a fire, even though that is the standard correspondence many people have in their minds to the word "Swaahaa". Bottomline: Hum and phat stand for commanding and demanding. Swaahaa stands for surrendering and offering. Namah is neutral. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > Svaha is not an exclamation! > > Svaha means the Lord's transcendental potency by which everything is > manifested; through mantra japa, offering of viniyoga and in the closing > rites through oblations in the fire. > > Mahalakshmi is also referred to as Svaha > (Padma Purana Section VI Uttarakhanda 186.12-33.) > > Best wishes, > Swee > www.brihaspati.net > > > Chandrashekhar [boxdel] > 21 December 2003 22:12 > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra > > Dear Swee, > The dictionary meaning of "Swaahaa" is " ind. (prob. fr. 5. %{su} and > %{ah} ; cf. %{dur-AhA}) hail! hail to! may a blessing rest on! (with > dat. ; an exclamation used in making oblations to the gods ; with % {kR} > [ind. p. %{-kA4ram} , or %{-kRtya}] and acc. `" to pronounce the > exclamation Sva1ha1 over "') RV. &c. &c." and " f. an oblation (offered > > to Agni , Indra &c.) or Oblation personified (as a daughter of Daksha > and wife of Agni ; she is thought to preside over burnt-offerings ; her > body is said to consist of the four Vedas , and her limbs are the six > An3gas or members of the Veda ; she is represented also as a wife of the > > Rudra Pas3u-pati) RV. &c. &c." > You can draw your own conclusions. > Regards, > Chandrashekhar. > Swee Chan wrote: > > > Jaya Jagannatha > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekarji, > > > > > > > > So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use > > swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering. > > > > > > > > Agree, this is how I am taught. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Swee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel] > > *Sent**:* 20 December 2003 22:04 > > *To:* vedic astrology > > *Subject:* RE: [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra > > > > > > > > Dear Nasimhaji, > > > > Yes your interpretation could be right.My view is that swaha refers to > > > offering of things other than one's ego as in surrender. Like > > Indraaya swaha, Taxakaaya swaha. Of course I could be wrong. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > ** pvr108 [pvr@c...] > > *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:01 AM > > *To:* vedic astrology > > *Subject:* [vedic astrology] Re: lakshmi mantra > > > > Dear Chandrasekhar ji, > > > > Yes, that is a standard convention. Offering something in fire > > basically symbolizes submission and offering. > > > > However, dravya yajna (material fire ritual) is only one kind of > > yajna. Sri Krishna teaches that there are other non-material > yajnas. > > Material yajnas are only symbolic. A yajna need not be material. > > > > So, if you are submitting yourself to the deity also, you can use > > swaahaa. Swaahaa is not restricted to a "material" offering. > > > > Atleast, this is my understanding. > > > > I will be away during the weekend in New Jersey. Talk to you all > on > > Monday. > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > > Narasimha > > > >> Dear Narasimha, > >> If I am not wrong the second mantra is more likely to be used when > > making an > >> offering to the deity. Especially when the offering is put in the > > Agnikunda. > >> Chandrashekhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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