[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 20th discussion meeting proceedings, mumbai

[Guest guest]

Respected Sanjayji,

 

We all are really encouraged by your mail. As you have pointed out, some names

are missing in the meeting- as they are busy with their works. But we are in

regular contacts with many of them.. and they are seriously persuing jyotish

studies in their off times.

 

Please see my replies to your points below. We also have some more doubts in

this case. Plz guide us.

 

Best regards,

 

jk

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Sanjay Rath

Vedic-Astrology (AT) (DOT) ;

Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:06 PM

RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 20th discussion meeting proceedings, mumbai

 

 

|brihaspatim varenyam|

Dear JK and Mumbai group:

Some points to ponder are listed under.

~ om tat sat ~

Yours truly,

Sanjay Rath

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Subject: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] 20th discussion

meeting proceedings, mumbai

Respected learned list members,

 

Our 20th meeting was held on 18.05.03. The same was attended by,

 

Chart Details:

4th October 1971 at 1pm in Townsville, Queensland, Australia

146E48, 19S16

TZ: 10.00 (east of GMT)

 

1. She left her birth place and went to Saudi for job in April'1999 and came

back to Australia in Sept'2000 [Rath:] The planets that take a person to a

foreign land should be examined very carefully. Here they are Ketu dasa Mars

anterdasa in April 1999. Thus Ketu and Mars have to be examined in the chart

for the results of what will follow in the foreign land. Note that both Ketu

and Mars are the lords of the badhak house indicating foreign travel. Further,

Ketu is placed in a Kendra as mars associates/aspects lagna causes Pisacha

badhak. Thus, the trip to foreign land shall bring some serious problem

regarding Pisacha badhak due to Ketu and Mars should be the inference.

 

[jk] This is a new direction in seeing the chart. We shall keep this in mind.

 

We concluded that her debilated AK was the reason for her foreign posting

(mentioned later in the mail). Was our finding correct? .. as we could not see

any other reason for her foreign residency.

 

Her venus MD is going to start now shortly. Will she now again come out of her

country in that period?

 

2. She started seeing one muslim boy in August 1999 and was engaged on the 21st

October 1999 but the marriage did not ultimately took place.[Rath:] Why arn't

the views of the group not given here? The dasa had changed to Ketu dasa Rahu

antardasa and both planets are involved in a sarpa yoga without a break.

Normally sarpa yoga makes a person very sexually inclined and agressive in

sexual activity. both these planets also aspect the darapada A7 indicating that

she will think of marriage as physical contact and will suffer consequently. The

point is that Brihaspati is sitting very strong in the darapada and is also

aspecting the 5th house. So we can see a battle of sorts between Jupiter and

Rahu to have a relationship with her. Now see the raha arudha of Jupiter - Jup

(9) is in Lagna andd is protecting her reputation and name while Jup (12) is in

7th house in Cancer. So Jupiters influence in her personal life is going to be

strong. Also he dominates darapada and put a fight against Rahu. So, she cannot

marry the man she meets in Ketu dasa Rahu antardasa. More so as UL is Libra and

its lord is debilitated and it is Jupiter who gives neechabhanga for Venus, but

this neechabhanga is not present naturally from Guru and Mercury does

neechabhanga i.e. Mercury intervenes on behalf of Juptier. Speak to her and try

to identify these people Jupiter & Mercury while Rahu is identified as the boy

she met in Ketu-Rahu period.

 

[jk] sunil will ask her and post the details in the list in this respect

 

3. Miscarried a child in April 2000 and then gave birth to a daughter in April

2001 in Australia [Rath:] This must be before April 20 2000 in Ketu-Rahu-Venus

period. Who was the prospective father? Mr.Rahu?? Tell her she has lost a

fantastic son (see Mars in Sg in D7). Next child is indicated by Moon in

Scorpio in D7 - daughter. Come Jupiter and she got out of the direct influence

of the sarpa yoga and other evils.

 

[jk] yes the miscarriage was before 20th april and the muslim boy (Mr. Rahu) was the father.

 

4. While in Saudi she had a lot of lucid dreaming with snakes.[Rath:] Did you

notice the sarpa yoga? I find no mention of this. Also there is no mention of

Rahu aspecting the 9th lord Mercury which is the cause of the dreams. Dreams of

snakes is indicative of terrible enemies working against her. Mercury is also

the 6th lord.

5. Arround July'1999, while in Saudi..she started seeing spirits. She tells that

one woman there, who threatened her earlier on account of relationship jealousy

- applied black magic on her.[Rath:] No I don't agree with this. The sixth lord

is Mercury and it does not have any contact with the badhak sign Scorpio nor

with the badhakesh Mars. Sixth lord conjoining debilitated Venus indicates that

she had problems and fight with a woman but there is no indication that that

lady was able to do any black magic that afflicted her. What she suffers from

is prarabdha karma and this is due to a past life karma that she carries.

 

[jk] sunil will take further detail from her and post the same. It seems that

she still insists on the black magic done to her by an african woman

 

This woman is reported to have very high passion which leads her into various

relations and subsequent troubles. But she is not happy with her own passion

and feels guilty about it. Is it due to her placement of Ke in 7th - who acts

like Mars creating lot of passions and debilated AK Venus - who tries to show

her the correct way? Plz note that Ven is also aspected by Rahu- aflicting Ven

as well as Sun.[Rath:] True. Venus shows correct way? Like how?? Please spell

out. Of course I missed it - Venus is Atmakaraka, so she will learn life

through terrible mistakes related to sexual activity and 'love'. (Gauranga made

this point earlier about AK Venus).

 

[jk] this is very much true in this case.

 

AK Ven is debilated and in the star of Mars. She left her birth place in

Ke-Ma-Me dasa. Ke is in her 7th house of foreign journey and Ve is in Virgo.

She came back as her Ke-Jup started. Jup is her DK in badhaka sthana. Actually

the main reason for her coming back was disappointment created due to refusal

of the boy to marry her. Religion (karaka Jup) was the main reason for the

muslim boy's refusal. Her AL is in 12th from UL and this was her 1st serious

relationship with intention to marry. Hence rejection by her would be spouse is

clear from the chart.[Rath:] Excellent. See how a Jupiter placed in badhak can

cause differences related to religion. Brilliant point. So whose child is the

daughter?? GRAPES ARE SOUR - the boy says no and so she finds it convenient to

blame a woman for black magic. Rejection is something lovers find hard to

digest.

In rashi, 9th house has rahu aspect-shows problem for 1st child birth. In her

D7, lagna is Le - odd sign. counting in zodiac direction, 5th from Le (Sg) has

Mars...showing medical problems. her miscarriage occured in Ke-Ra-Ve dasa. Ve

is in Mars star. 3rd from Sg is Aq. Lord Sa is in Cp a female rashi. So her 2nd

child was a daughter.[Rath:] So my guess was right - Venus pratyantar as Venus

is TENTH LORD in Saptamsa and aspects the fifth house. Also see the dictum

about Rasi chart Lagna lord in 5th house..first child....

 

Dreaming of snakes:

She has 3 malefics in 2 kendras. It should be a sarpa dosha. Can we confer that

the dreaming of snakes were due to the sarpa dosha? This happened in her Ke-Ra

dasa.[Rath:] Sarpa yoga - correct JK

 

Black magic & Preta dosha:

She becomes adept to black magic due to,

1. Ketu and Sat aspecting each other and have connection to 5th house.[Rath:] Ok

first pregnancy was miscarriage (ask her if this miscarriage was FORCED like say

abortion).

 

[jk] She confirmed that it was a miscarriage only.

 

2. AL in dual rashi..conjunct with 6L Mer and Ket in 7th behaving like mars (as

Ketu is alone)[Rath:] come off it. Loneliness and depression following

rejection in love can make people see things. Preta badhak is far too serious a

thing and if the affliction actually occurs, then there will be tremendous

violence and some terrible physical conditions that beyond normal description.

Split personality and other traits are noticed. i have witness only one preta

badhak till now and also saw the exorcism. Long time back - durig Sat-Venus

period when I was studying these things.

 

[jk] The description of her fisrt experience of sighting spirits tells about a

violent and painfull physical condition also.

 

Here we are not very clear on one thing. Are the preta dosha / badha and

pishacha badha are two different things? And if so..how both manifest? And what

are the indication in a chart that the native will be able to see or communicate

with spirits? Do such ability come from such dosha?

 

Now her badhaka lord is Mars..who is also aspecting Sat by rashi dristi and Ket

by graha dristi. This constitutes Preta Badha or the native is so haunted by

spirits. Also combination of Ketu & Mars causes Preta dosha as well as

affliction by spirits.

 

It may be note here that 7th house is involved in the dosha..and the dosha got

kick started due to problems of 7th house affairs.[Rath:] Agreed about this

that the 7th house is the cause of the sarpa entangling her in a terrible mess.

During Ketu-Jup she might have contemplated suicide as well. But then its over

now.

 

[jk] sunil will confirm this from her

 

Remedy:

Jup aspects Ketu and Rahu+mars all by rashi dristi and Sat by graha dristi. So

it was felt that Jup can give the solution. Jup is in 9th from moon so gem will

not work. Maha Mrityunjaya mantra was suggested for the native to avert the

effect of black magic and haunting by spirits. Mrityunjaya mantra being the

best remedy for such doshas. This mantra must do the needfull also due to the

reason that her ketu dasa is ending and ven dasa would start shortly and venus

is the owner of mrityunjaya mantra. Sun indicates her ista as Shiva. Jup also

indicates Shiva in higher form. So Mrityunjaya mantra will propiciate Jup & Sun

also. Jup is aspecting Ketu. So by propiciating Jup..ketu will get a head and

become ganesha to drive away the spirits.[Rath:] PERFECT JK da..all the hard

work you have done on remedial measures is paying off now.

 

[jk] i am personally very much encouraged by your kind words. and surely Hy

conference has given a new direction to our studies.

 

Is the remedy suggested is correct?

 

Please guide us with further valuable comments on the same - from gurus and

other learned members.

 

Regards

 

dasgupta[Rath:] Very very good and challenging case study. I have seen that

sometimes the groups gets carried away in a particular thread. This is due to

the planetary positions for the day when the meeting was being held. For

example when this chart was being discussed, the Moon was in exact 180 degrees

aspect with Saturn!!!..so i don't blame anyone. The graha are powerful...

 

Sit back sometimes and think about the other alternatives with a silent prayer to Shiva.

Best regards

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