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Daer all,

 

In case of a vargottama lagna, Satabdika dasa is applicable for the native.

(From Vimshottari & Udu dasas by Pt Rath).

 

The native will have strong ideals & beliefs and the Lagna functions like

Mritunjaya Mantra & protects the native from all calamities. (from the same

book).

 

So the native is likely to be brave & physically strong, based on the planets in

trines to Lagna.

 

Hope this helps.

 

regards

viswanadham onlyhari <onlyhari > wrote:

||Om Brihaspataye Namah||Dear Sai,If the lagna is vargottama, then the native is

physically strong (ie., capable of working long hours, capable of withstanding

the various troubles in their lives, with a never-say-die attitude etc).If you

have a few cases like this, kindly let me know if my observation fits or

not...regardsHarivedic astrology, "Saikumar" wrote:> >

Dear Guru Chandrashekar ji, > What if the lagna itself is

Vargottam(Rasi,Navamsa and some divisional> charts). What is the inference

then. Do we look at Lagna lord's placement or> how do we reckon the results of

Vargottama then. > Regards, > Sai> >

Chandrashekhar > 2003/12/27 00:37:02> To:

vedic astrology> Cc: > Ji)> > Dear Pradeep,> In a way

you are right. A planet that is Vargottam also generally gives > good results

next to Exalted planet. The nature of results will depend > on the house he is

posited in, his own house lordships and other > modifying factors as usual.>

Chandrashekhar.> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji> >> >

Thanks for your valuable input.I will try to dig more into the topic> > for my

understanding.Yes Navamsha is considered as the most> > important division.Even

vargottama is based on Navamsha.Though> > Gopuramsha,Simhasanamsha etc are there

Vargottama is considered as> > best to confirm about the true manifestation of a

planet in a> > prticular rashi.Thus my understanding about Vargottama is, it

does> > not

signify good or bad.It just reconfirms that the concerned > > planet will give

complete results by virtue of its placement in a> > particular Rashi.Kindly

confirm.> >> > Thanks> > Pradeep> > vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar > > wrote:> > > Dear Pradeep,> > > As you know planets are more

powerful in certain degrees in a> > Rasi. Now> > > the very relationship of the

Lord of the Rasi would indicate where> > each> > > planet's degrees of power

would lie.The degrees that a planet is> > in> > > strength is not based merely

on less number of degrees or more> > number of> > > degrees but is planet

specific too. The Vargas divisions are> > probably> > > based on that principle

coupled with the nakshatra Charana Lord or> >

> Nakhshatra lord and his relation to the Rasi lord, according to> > the> > >

Varga concerned. Navamsha Varga divisions are based on the> > Nakshatra> > >

Charana Lord and as such is given much importance to the extent> > that in> > >

most of the shlokas when the sages say Amsha it generally refers t> > >

Navamsha. Of course this is my personal opinion and logic and> > those more> >

> learned than me might hold different views on the subject.> > > Hope this

helps.> > > Chandrashekhar.> > >> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> > >> > > > Dear

Chandrashekhar ji> > > >> > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind

divisions within a> > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into

9,10,24,60 etc> > starting> > > > from

aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you come across> > > > any reasons

for this during ur experiments with astrology.I have> > > > asked a qstn cpl of

days back addressed to Narasimha Raoji.It is> > > > difficult to find logic

behind every usage and may not be needed> > as> > > > well.Still just out of

curiousity.Becuase this could help us> > > > understand the validity of aspects

within divisional charts.> > > >> > > > Thanks in advance> > > > Pradeep> > > >>

> > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar> > > > > > wrote:>

> > > > Dear Sathiyanarayana,> > > > > Since you know the source where it is

available, find out if> > > > Uttara> > > > > Parasaryam is

available. If so, it could also be a commentary> > on> > > > Brihat> > > > >

Parashara Hora Shastra.> > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > >> > > > >

Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Dear shri. Chandrashekhar,> >

> > > >> > > > > > Thank you for your advices, now I understand that> > > > >

>> > > > > > ' POORVA PARASARYAM ' is available at> > > > > > SARASWATHY MAHAL

at Thanjavour , Tamil Nadu> > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > With regards,> > > > >

> D. Sathiyanarayana Gupta .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > */Chandrashekhar

/* wrote:> > > > > >> >

> > > > Dear Sathiyanarayana,> > > > > > Not having read the text, I can not

comment on it.> > However> > > > as the> > > > > > name> > > > > > suggests it

might be a compilation of various shlokas,> > > > supposed to be> > > > > >

written/recited prior to the days of Parashara. There not> > > > being any> > >

> > > Uttara Parasaryam, it obviously is not first Skanda of> > > >

texts/shlokas> > > > > > attributed to Parashara. Or at least this is what I

would> > > > infer> > > > > > from the> > > > > > title of the text.> > > > > >

Regards,> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >

> > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >

> > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Vishwanadham,> > >

> > > > Thank you. Various pravartakas elaborated upon the> > > > divine> > > >

> > science> > > > > > > which> > > > > > > is said to have descended from the

Lord Mahadeo.> > They> > > > did> > > > > > not , in> > > > > > > fact,> > > >

> > > give different systems. What each did was give> > > > different> > > > >

> > perspectives,> > > > > > > on the basis of the same

basics.> > > > > > > Unfortunately astrologers started giving one or> > other> >

> > Rishi the> > > > > > > credit> > > > > > > as originator of Jyotish and

started swearing by> > one> > > > system or> > > > > > > another.> > > > > > >

The fact that none of the Gurus or their direct> > > > shishya lineage,> > > >

> > > who had> > > > > > > the advantage of learning from their Guru, is> > > >

available to> > > > > > explain> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > true meaning of

shlokas has added to the confusion.> > > > One has> > > > > > also to> > > > >

> > understand that many sages of same name

wrote> > different> > > > > > Vedangas.> > > > > > > This> > > > > > > has led

many to ascribe the authorship of the> > text> > > > favoured by> > > > > > >

one to> > > > > > > the most ancient of them and thus claiming the> > text to>

> > > be the> > > > > > > origin of> > > > > > > Jyotish. It is very well to

equate Surya mentioned> > as> > > > one of> > > > > > the> > > > > > >

pravartakas but the fact remains that it might be> > > > reference> > > > > >

to the> > > > > > > writer of Surya Siddhanta and so on. Sages were> > > >

refered to> > > > > > by their> >

> > > > > Gotra, place of residence and even their colour,> > > > different> > >

> > > names> > > > > > > being> > > > > > > used to describe the same person.

This should not> > be> > > > forgotten.> > > > > > > Many a> > > > > > > times

titles were conferred upon them and> > therefore,> > > > that it is> > > > > >

> difficult to establish antiquity of the Sages> > remains> > > > a fact.> > >

> > > > There are also different versions of the same> > texts in> > > > > > >

circulation. It> > > > > > > might be fashionable to claim to be follower of

one> > > > system or> > > > > > > other,

but> > > > > > > the fact remains that Jyotish is based on sound> > > >

principles> > > > > > and all> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > sages gave

instructions in words that they thought> > > > their> > > > > > students> > > >

> > > will> > > > > > > comprehend better. This is why you will find the> >

texts> > > > referring> > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > opinion of others with

equal respect.> > > > > > > As I said earlier one should follow the system> >

that he> > > > has> > > > > > understood> > > > > > > the basics of, and can

apply them to real life> > > > horoscopes.> > > >

> > > Hope this helps.> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > Dear

pedagogues,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > kindly elucidate as to wheather 'POORVA>

> PARASARYAM' is> > > > the> > > > > > > teachings of POOJYASHRI. sage PARASARA

to his> > > > disciples or> > > > > > > otherwise .> > > > > > >> > > > > > >

May DEVA GURU'S blessings shall dawn on us.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >

D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > H S Viswanadham wrote:> > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear

Chandrasekhar Ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Your longish mails are very

informative. Pls keep> > > > writing> > > > > > longish> > > > > > > > ones. At

the end of the last mail you were> > saying it> > > > > > became too> > > > > >

> long.> > > > > > > > It was a good mail. Now your clarification is> > still>

> > > better.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > i also feel that people using True

nodes & using> > > > different> > > > > > > ayanamsas> > > > > > > > are

sticking to their own basics ( if i may say> > so!).> > > > > > > >> > > > > >

> > From

what you said, can we speculate that the> > other> > > > Rishis> > > > > >

whose> > > > > > > works> > > > > > > > are lost were using different

'systems'. What> > could> > > > be> > > > > > the root of> > > > > > > > all

this?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Many thanks and best regards> > > > > > > >

viswanadham> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > */Anna /* wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekar,> > > > > > > > I have read carefully..> > > > > > >

> Thank you.> > > > > > > > Anna> > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

Dear Anna,> > > > > > > > I am sorry that you appear to be shocked> > > > with

my> > > > > > opinions. I> > > > > > > > would like> > > > > > > > you to read

what I have said carefully> > > > again. You> > > > > > will find> > > > > > >

> that I have> > > > > > > > already clarified that one should use the> > > >

system> > > > > > that one is> > > > > > > > comfortable> > > > > > > > with,

and have also said that different> > > > Rishis> > > >

> > devised> > > > > > > different> > > > > > > > systems. If you read the mail

in its> > > > entirety, you> > > > > > will> > > > > > > > understand that> > >

> > > > > I am not saying anything contradictory> > to> > > > what is> > > > > >

> taught,but> > > > > > > > am trying> > > > > > > > to indicate how the

teachings are to be> > > > used. I merely> > > > > > > say that> > > > > > > >

application of different system without> > > > > > understanding the> > > > > >

> > logic behind> > > > > > > > them could lead one to a wrong> > prediction.> >

>

> An example> > > > > > > would be> > > > > > > > Prashna> > > > > > > > Marga

of deciding Aarudha based on the> > > > location of the> > > > > > > querist> >

> > > > > > or his> > > > > > > > placing a piece of Gold on a particular> > > >

direction> > > > > > on the> > > > > > > > circular chart.> > > > > > > > Now

would you say Aarudha arrived at by> > this> > > > > > method can> > > > > > >

use the> > > > > > > > principles of Aarudha defined by> > Parashara> > > > and

one> > > > > > will> > > > > > > arrive at> > > > > >

> > correct predictions? Or can Aarudha> > arrived> > > > at by> > > > > >

using> > > > > > > Parashara> > > > > > > > principles will give correct

predictions> > > > when it> > > > > > is used to> > > > > > > > arrive at> > >

> > > > > conclusions based on the results given in> > > > Prashna> > > > > >

Marga?> > > > > > > I am> > > > > > > > certain> > > > > > > > you will not.

Similarly can Gulika and> > > > Mandi at> > > > > > different> > > > > > > >

points of> > > > > > > > reference be used when applying Jaataka> > > >

Paarijata>

> > > > > > parameters,> > > > > > > > when the> > > > > > > > text states

specifically that they are> > > > synonyms of> > > > > > the same> > > > > > >

> upagraha?> > > > > > > > The logic behind what I wrote will be> > clear> > >

> to you.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > >

Anna wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

*/Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear

Chandrashekar,> > > > > > > >

> You raised serious issues here,> > indeed. I> > > > just> > > > > > copied

some> > > > > > > > parts,> > > > > > > > > although the entire post questions

in> > fact> > > > all we've> > > > > > > learnt> > > > > > > > here, so far.> >

> > > > > > > You said:*_You can not apply say > > Metric> > > > system to> > >

> > > > > manufacture a bolt> > > > > > > > > and BSW for the nut , they would

never> > fit> > > > > > properly._*> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You imply

that wrt. rashi dristi,> > aroodas,> > > > that> > > > > > we

are> > > > > > > > thought to use> > > > > > > > > along with graha dristi

etc..I feel> > this is> > > > > > rather serious> > > > > > > > and wish if> >

> > > > > > > could see more comments on this- this> > is> > > > in fact> > > >

> > the first> > > > > > > > time I see> > > > > > > > > on THIS list such a

view; implications> > > > would be> > > > > > > far-reaching> > > > > > > >

with lots> > > > > > > > > of fundamental questions raised.> > > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > Thank You.> > > > > > > > >> > > > >

> > > > Best regards,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Anna> > > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > *There are many systems based on the> > > >

experience> > > > > > of the> > > > > > > > Rishis, who> > > > > > > > >

formulated them...*> > > > > > > > > **> > > > > > > > > * one> > > > > > > > >

predicts on the basis of Planet drishty> > > > and when the>

> > > > > > > prediction goes> > > > > > > > > wrong one takes recourse to

explaining> > > > away the> > > > > > reason of> > > > > > > > the failure by>

> > > > > > > > application of Rasi drishty. Same is> > the> > > > case> > > >

> > with use of> > > > > > > > Aarudhas,> > > > > > > > > Karakamsha,

Divisional charts etc. One> > > > should have a> > > > > > > uniform> > > > > >

> > approach to> > > > > > > > > any chart one analyses. _You can not> > apply>

> > > say> > > > > > Metric> > > > > > > system to> > > > > > >

> > manufacture a bolt and BSW for the> > nut ,> > > > they> > > > > > would

never> > > > > > > > fit properly._> > > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > > > **> > >

> > > > > > *Not much work has been done on> > Aarudhas> > > > and other> > > >

> > > > parameters even by the> > > > > > > > > ancient sages and ...This does

not mean> > > > that the> > > > > > concept> > > > > > > > carries no> > > > >

> > > > substance, only that> > > > > > > > > exahaustive work has not been

done on> > this> > > > aspect.> > > > > > > _Even the> > > >

> > > > major yogas> > > > > > > > > are not based on these concept and as> >

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