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Dear Rajesh ji

 

Kindly permit me to address you with a ji,i belv i am younger to you.

 

What you have mentioned in your initial mail defines Maha yogada.A

planet connected to all the three lagnas,may confer Maha Yoga and

hence the name Maha Yoga Da - giver or 'Da'tha of Yoga.If it is not

connected to all the three but just one or two then it is yogada and

not Maha.

 

But i believe,Maha Yogadas might not be very difficult to

find.Because apart from graha drishti,Rashi drishtis can also be

used to relate a planet to these three lagnas.And infact multiple

Maha Yogadas can be found.

 

Thus may be as you have mentioned the strength of the Yogada planets

plus,sun,moon etc are very crucial.

May be the Gurus throw more light and help us.

 

Regds

Pradeep

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

<rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep

> (please just call me Rajesh or RMK)

>

> Yes as per definition of Yogada, the planet will qualify when it

> aspects 2 of the lagnas and the aspects the seventh from 3rd

lagna. I

> am not sure about the term " MahaYogada"... But I assume that the

so

> called Yogada must be strong it self i.e., Its placed in its

exalted,

> own or freindly sign and is not combust or afflicted or involved

in

> Rashi Sandhi etc., otherwise it may not qualify as a yogada if its

> weak itself. Also we are assuming here that the yogada planet to

be

> Atamkaraka/Amatyakaraka/Bhratri karaka and involved in other

rajyogas

> (as mentioned by Sarajit and others).

>

> Infact you have another good question arising here: what is the

> definition of Yogada or MahaYogada planet? Hope others will give

> their valuable input.

>

> Infact we should have a list of major rajayogas(time permitting)

> involving various karakas(Atamkaraka/Amatyakaraka/Bhratri karaka)

to

> make things clear, before we jump to the conclusion that the

planet

> is yogada/a strong planet and start computing various dasas

involving

> Special Lagnas. Infact we may end up exploring the entire Jamini

> Sutras and timing issues in this entire process(and all those

people

> who are searching jobs, businesses etc., may get another dimension

to

> explore here...so special lagnas are critical and all thanks

really

> goes to Shri Sanjay Rath only.)

>

> Thanks and regards

> RMK

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > Dear Rajesh Ji

> >

> > Thanks for your detailed reply again.

> > Kindly call me pradeep.

> >

> > I understand your reference as Maha Yogada.I thank Sanjay Rath

Ji

> > and all for popularising Jaimini Sutras and publishing them on

the

> > net.Otherwise it would have been difficult to get such info fast.

> >

> > Eligiblity privilige for seventh from these lagnas was

> > informative.One doubt - can a planet aspect 2 of these lagnas

and

> > aspect the seventh from the 3rd lagna and still be a Maha Yogada?

> >

> > I have understood the other points from your mail.

> >

> > Best regds & respect

> > Pradeep

> >

> > ology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

<rajeshkumaria2000>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Pradeep ji

> > > Here are some quick replies:

> > > Yes you are right, that no rules can be applied as stand

alone,

> > but

> > > then when you combine some major rules to get a prediction,

then

> > each

> > > indvidual major rule becomes a critical component. So these

rules

> > are

> > > esential since they are part of the entire horoscope

structure.

> > Here

> > > are some more rules which can complete this picture(from Shri

> > Rath's

> > > book on Jamini Sutras)

> > >

> > > 1. "Stanza 1.3.24 and 1.3.25 Lagna, Hora Lagna and Ghatika

Lagna

> > > apspected or conjoined by one planet produces a

Rajyoga."...The

> > > aspect or cojunction mentioned , could be to the first house

or

> > > seventh house (form the three acendants i.e. lagna, hora lagna

or

> > > ghatika lagna) and could occur in Rasi, Namsa or Drekkana

charts

> > > 2. "For powerful Rajyoga, the lagna, hora lagna and ghatika

lagna

> > (or

> > > their senth house) should be aspected by one planet.. If the

> > planet

> > > fails to aspect either one of the three , the Rajyoga is

reduce

> > and

> > > of it fails to aspect/join two of the three ascendants, the

> > Rajyoga

> > > is even weaker."..."also Sun is required to initiate the yoga

and

> > > Moon to sustain it..So such a planet should be linked to Sun

and

> > Mon

> > > als otherwise only some effects are observed in the dasa of

such

> > a

> > > planet."

> > >

> > > Now your original topic is Special Lagnas and you were

focussing

> > on

> > > 7th house from AL... you wanted to know whether opposition to

the

> > > image (AL) will cause problems(even if benefics are in 7th

> > > house)...Hope I understand you correctly... So my atempt is to

> > find

> > > other factors related to 7th house and special lagnas which

can

> > > counter-act such an oppposition or improve the status quo...so

I

> > > found Darapada(A7) rules and special lagna rules...

> > >

> > > Now when you combine these rules, and reach several small

> > > interpretations, then combine them....

> > > 1.giving importance to strength of such a planet(yogada) and

its

> > > links to Lagna, HL and GL

> > > 2. Darpada strengthand its relationship with AL

> > > 3. Argalas to lagna and seventh house

> > > 4. opposition to image from planets in 7th from AL.

> > >

> > > ....only then you can get a better picture about the

predictions

> > > based on Special lagnas. So each part is essential for the

> > complete

> > > prediction. ALso when you reach a conclusion based on some

major

> > > combinations, then that its self is one major prediction.

> Ofcourse

> > > further for timing issues you have to go to dasas and

transits.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > RMK

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > Dear Rajesh Ji

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your reply.

> > > > I think the statements you have quoted form Shri Rath Jis

books

> > (for

> > > > eg points 1 & 2) are like any other astrological rule for

> > analysis

> > > > and hence cannot be applied as stand alone ones,am i

> > right?.Because

> > > > if we apply this verbatim the results might not be

> consistent.So

> > I

> > > > think shri Sanjay Rath Ji might be mentioning other factors

to

> > be

> > > > considered, somewhere else in the book or by default these

> > factors

> > > > should be known to a good astrologer.Kindly correct me.

> > > >

> > > > As i unfortunately don't have this book i checked BPHS for

> > Argala.I

> > > > could learn about the things mentioned by you in the same

> > > > (BPHS).Thanks for this.So thus Argalas are like bolts which

> > connect

> > > > planets/houses.This can act as a 'Shrinkhala' or a chain or

> > series

> > > > for the planets with other important positions in the chart.

> > > (Argalas

> > > > from any house or planet are found in 2,4th,11th etc from

> it.And

> > > the

> > > > obstructions for argalas are found from 10th 12th and 3rd).

> > > > Thus i feel for any planet/house second from it represents

its

> > > > growth.4th from it is important.11 th represents growth of

> > 10th.So

> > > > the planets in these houses can influence the growth of

these

> > > > houses.And these 'Argalas' provides a link for the growth of

> the

> > > > chart as a whole(growth depends on nature of Argala forming

> > > > planets).And hence if there is no obstruction to benefic

> > Argalas,

> > > it

> > > > results in good(Thus to LAGNA and 7th should result in good

> > > > growth).Similarly if the Argala is bad then can we say

> > obstruction

> > > > for that is good.?Kindly help me in understanding this.I

have

> > also

> > > > read that the net of Argala and obstruction has to be taken

to

> > > > understand relative strength.

> > > >

> > > > My initial question was related to 7th fom AL.This need not

be

> > > Arudha

> > > > of 7th(Darapada)always.But your answer was pointing to

A7.Could

> > you

> > > > kindly help me regarding this as well,provided you have time.

> > > >

> > > > Best Regds

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

> > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > >

> > > > > Although your question is not directed at me...If you

kindly

> > > allow

> > > > me

> > > > > to interfere, I found some interesting answers from Shri

> > Sanjay

> > > > > Rath's Jamini Sutras(1.3.17 Page 82)...also you have a

good

> > mind

> > > > > boggling question by the way.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. "The darapada (A7) in a quadrant or trine from Arudha

> Lagna

> > > > brings

> > > > > the blessings of Sr Devi(prosperity and god fortune)" . " …

> The

> > > > > seventh house also decides matters pertaining to money and

> > > > business".

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. "If the Darapada is in other houses(other than the

> > > > > quadrants/trines) the native is unfortunate. `The Darapada

in

> > > > > 6th/8th/12th houses from Arudha Lagna makes the couple

> > inimically

> > > > > disposed dowards each other…not only is there poverty but

the

> > > > couple

> > > > > are not physically compatible".

> > > > >

> > > > > 3. Also Stanza 1.3.22 says " Good fortune should be deuced

if

> > te

> > > > > lagna or the seventh have unobstructed argala".."Benefics

> > causing

> > > > > argala on the lagna or the 7th house give wealth and

> > > > > prosperity"…"Natural benefics means employed and fruits

are

> > > wealth,

> > > > > prosperity and well being…Natural malefics means fould

means…

> > and

> > > > the

> > > > > fruits thereof, in the long run, are bound to be adverse".

> > > > >

> > > > > So Thanks to Shri Rath, there are several clarifications

> > already

> > > > > here. Now all we have to do is to apply these principles

to

> > > > various

> > > > > charts. Good Luck.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > RMK

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic-

astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Sudharsan Ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for the detailed explanation.Doubts regarding 8th

> > from

> > > AL

> > > > is

> > > > > > clear now.The example was also good.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ofcourse i have read the archives from this list as well

as

> > > > achyuta

> > > > > > gurukulam.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The questions were my doubts after reading those.Because

> > > > Narasimha

> > > > > > Ji has done some analysis with respect to Ghati Lagna

> > > alone.Thus

> > > > > the

> > > > > > doubt and the first mail regarding this from me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now regarding 7th from AL.Exalted planets(benefics)

> > aspecting

> > > AL

> > > > is

> > > > > > good.So this can sit in 7th from AL and still aspect.So

you

> > > mean

> > > > to

> > > > > > say,suppose if this is a benefic like waxing moon or

venus

> > or

> > > > > > jupiter,they will lose their benefic nature and act as

> > badhak

> > > > for

> > > > > > AL?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks again for the reply

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regds

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > astrology, Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > <sudhar108>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dont mean to intrude.You can read all about the

special

> > > lagnas

> > > > if

> > > > > > you explore the archives. Narasimha ji and Sanjay ji

have

> > > > explained

> > > > > > these lagnas and their use in great detail. Try the

> messages

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > begining of this group i.e in 1999.In fact Narasimha

starts

> > the

> > > > > > discussion group with a post on Hora Lagna and Ghati

Lagna.

> > In

> > > > fact

> > > > > > I reccomend this to everyone as I myself benefitted

greatly

> > by

> > > > > > reading evey message by PVR and Sanjay ji right from

> > inception.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 8th from AL is the second from the 7th from AL. The

7th

> > from

> > > AL

> > > > > > represents others(people). The second from the 7th i.e

the

> > 8th

> > > > > > represents the resources of others. Thus the 2nd house

is

> > your

> > > > > > resource while the 2nd from 7th. i,e 8th represents

others

> > > > > resources.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To give you an example, if you try for a new position

> > while

> > > > > > continuing in you current job, you will most certainly

be

> > using

> > > > > your

> > > > > > current employers time to interview, use the current

> > employers

> > > PC

> > > > > > for communicating with prospective employers etc. This

is

> an

> > > > > example

> > > > > > of how you will improve your status(AL) by employing

others

> > > (8th

> > > > > > house) resources.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The 7th from AL is the opposition to that house. Any

> > planet

> > > > that

> > > > > > is placed in it will lose its significance. A good

example

> > is

> > > the

> > > > > > placement of Rahu. Such people turn out to be very

> spiritual

> > as

> > > > the

> > > > > > qualities of Rahu(base, tamasic, materialistic) are lost.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hope this helps.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Nitin Ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your explanation.

> > > > > > > I have also read a little about the Arudha Lagna and

> > various

> > > > > > Arudha

> > > > > > > Padas and their significance.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why is 8th from AL considered as a resource? (2nd from

AL

> > i

> > > am

> > > > > > > thinking is the 'dhanasthana' for AL).Is it because

8th

> > > > > determines

> > > > > > > the duration or life of the manifestation.

> > > > > > > Why is seventh a Badhak? As it is opposite to the AL?

In

> > this

> > > > case

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > the Badhakatipathi is well placed and is a

benefic,then

> > the

> > > > ends

> > > > > > > aimed by it should be for a good,though an obstacle.(I

> > mean

> > > its

> > > > > > > effect should be good).Also planets well placed in

> > > > Badhakasthana

> > > > > > > will aspect AL and hence should bear good results.Am i

> > > thinking

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the right direction here?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks again and regds

> > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nitin"

> > > > > > <astronitin>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > |Namah Shivaaya|

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > You have asked a good question. I would consider one

> > taking

> > > a

> > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > wholistic picture and considering all factors to

paint

> > an

> > > > > > > integrated

> > > > > > > > picture of the chart.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It also depends on what one is looking for? Are you

> > > > considering

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > mind of the person (Chandra lagna), the physical

body

> > > > (lagnesh)

> > > > > > > Satya

> > > > > > > > Peeth (Lagna) or how things will manifest in the

> > material

> > > > word

> > > > > > > > (Arudha Lagna)?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For example, there are many principles given in

Jaimini

> > > > Sutras

> > > > > > > > regarding reading from the Arudha Lagna (AL), alone.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 3rd / 6th from the AL reveals the courage and

rivalry

> > about

> > > a

> > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The Trines to the AL will give it direction, and a

rise

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > > image

> > > > > > > > wil occur.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The 2nd and 8th from the AL will be resources to the

> > image.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The 7th will act like a baadhak (obstacle).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So, in a similar fashion, one could examine the

Hora,

> > Ghati

> > > > and

> > > > > > > Shri

> > > > > > > > Lagna alone, but will miss on the entire picture.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hoep that some of this helps.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards,

> > > > > > > > Nitin.

> > > > > > > > :>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic-

> > astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear and respected members

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have read about the importance of special lagnas

in

> > > > > > analysing

> > > > > > > > > charts.Apart from sun and moon there are others

like

> > > > > > Ghati ,Hora

> > > > > > > > > representing power,wealth etc.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > But can we predict something based on just any one

of

> > > these

> > > > > > > Lagnas?

> > > > > > > > > Because of permutation combinations we could

always

> > > deduct

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > yogas from some of these Lagnas.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an

additional

> > > > > > > > > confirmation.That is if some strength is present

from

> > > > > > > Rashi,Chandra

> > > > > > > > > and Navamsha Varga, then we could go down to Ghati

or

> > > Hora

> > > > or

> > > > > > > Sree

> > > > > > > > > etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Because if you get the chart of a popular person

you

> > > could

> > > > > > > manage

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > find some yogas from any of these lagnas and

convince

> > > using

> > > > > > our

> > > > > > > > > skills.But from an unpopular(this is a vague

term!)

> > chart

> > > > can

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > predict something based on these alone.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Pradeep

(if you feel like using ji, its Ok with me although I do not insist

on it since I am not really a Guru here).

 

Now here are some quotes of an article by Shri Sanjay Rath in which

he published in April2003. Based on this and other obvious factors,

mere aspects(graha/rashi) to various lagnas cannot qualify the planet

as a Yogada or Mahayogada..the planet must ne involed in some

rajyogas or its must be involved in various rajyogas/good yogas based

on charakarakas (i.e., it should be Atamkaraka, Amatayakaraka or

Bhratrikaraka) and so it should be very strong basically , before we

go into aspects and dasas etc.,So it must have a great romose to

fulfill on its own befoe we declare it a yogada(other wise merely

aspects will qualify so many planets and the special lagnas are just

critical points in space(linked to a particular chart) which become

activated by the yogada/good planet but the strength of the planet

aspecting such points should not be forgotten in the process. Its

like a strong torch-light in the darkness and the batteries(power of

the light) control the strength and flow of this light(analogy).

 

Aritcle on yogas(Shri Rath)is attached below...please see points 4

and 5 below.

Thanks and Regards

RMK

________________

1.2 Yoga

Yoga has many meanings and implications in astrology. Some of these

are listed below for a better understanding of the word. A sambandha

caused by any of these can be understood as samyoga.

 

1. It indicates yoking, joining, harnessing or attaching like

yoking a team to play a game or yoking horses to pull a carriage. It

implies that the individual parts involved in the yoga (yoke) should

function in harmony. In Jyotiúa, these are called paraspara-yoga-

kâraka or mutual co-workers.

 

2. It indicates and undertaking, business, action, work or

employment of some kind for the purpose of earning wealth,

acquisition, gains or profit or property. In Jyotiúa, these are

called sûrya yoga or more precisely, âditya yoga.

 

3. It indicates any conjunction, union, combination or contact

and indicates mixing or a mixture. In Jyotiúa, these are called Graha

yoga and are named based on the number of planets conjoining in a

sign.

 

4. It indicates a connection or relationship as a consequence

of, or reason or because of something else. The reason or cause is

the kâraka (significator) and consequently, these yogas are called

Kâraka yoga in Jyotiúa.

 

5. It indicates putting together or arranging, based on

disposition in a regular succession. In Jyotiúa, the longitudes of

the individual planets are considered to arrange them in a regular

succession of decreasing (longitudinal) hierarchy called `Chara

kâraka'. These planets then acquire the potential for various

generating yogas.

 

6. It indicates zealous endeavor with care and using all of

one's powers to achieve a goal. Such zeal can only come from the

individual soul called the âtmakâraka indicating the natives strong

inner urges and desires. The yogas, in Jyotiúa are consequently

called âtmakâraka yoga or simply kâraka yoga.

 

7. It indicates abstract contemplation; meditation and such

other practices to attain union (yoga) with God and all these are

called adhyâtma yoga (spirituality) in Jyotiúa. It includes

renunciation (sanyâsa yoga), mantra úâstra, Pâtanjali's (samkhya-II)

yoga philosophy, rituals (where yoga is personified as the son of

Dharma & Kriya) etc.

 

8. It indicates the union of pûruúa (spirit personified as

father) and prâkritî (nature personified as mother) for the purpose

of all creation (samkhya úastra). In Jyotiúa, the Sun indicates the

pûruúa and the Moon indicates prâkritî. The relationship between

these planets indicates the Yoga of birth of which there are 27

types. This leads to yet another meaning for the word yoga as `sum'

in arithmetic.

 

9. It indicates the constellation (of the 27 nakúatra), which

is conjoined the Moon and is called `Candra yoga'. This is extended

into other varieties of Candra yoga based on certain planetary

positions that influence the health and mind. The nakúatra which do

not have the conjunction or association of the Moon are called `Kha

yoga' or having the yoga (association) of the sky (kha). This leads

to another variety of Jyotiúa combinations called Kha yoga or Nâbhasa

yoga.

 

In this manner, the various meanings of the word yoga can be studies

with a focus on its relevance to Vedic astrology. Suffice is to say

that the word has a very deep meaning and any superficial reading

will cause a vacuum in our understanding and judging of real life

situations.

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> Dear Rajesh ji

>

> Kindly permit me to address you with a ji,i belv i am younger to

you.

>

> What you have mentioned in your initial mail defines Maha yogada.A

> planet connected to all the three lagnas,may confer Maha Yoga and

> hence the name Maha Yoga Da - giver or 'Da'tha of Yoga.If it is not

> connected to all the three but just one or two then it is yogada

and

> not Maha.

>

> But i believe,Maha Yogadas might not be very difficult to

> find.Because apart from graha drishti,Rashi drishtis can also be

> used to relate a planet to these three lagnas.And infact multiple

> Maha Yogadas can be found.

>

> Thus may be as you have mentioned the strength of the Yogada

planets

> plus,sun,moon etc are very crucial.

> May be the Gurus throw more light and help us.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

> <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > Dear Pradeep

> > (please just call me Rajesh or RMK)

> >

> > Yes as per definition of Yogada, the planet will qualify when it

> > aspects 2 of the lagnas and the aspects the seventh from 3rd

> lagna. I

> > am not sure about the term " MahaYogada"... But I assume that the

> so

> > called Yogada must be strong it self i.e., Its placed in its

> exalted,

> > own or freindly sign and is not combust or afflicted or involved

> in

> > Rashi Sandhi etc., otherwise it may not qualify as a yogada if

its

> > weak itself. Also we are assuming here that the yogada planet to

> be

> > Atamkaraka/Amatyakaraka/Bhratri karaka and involved in other

> rajyogas

> > (as mentioned by Sarajit and others).

> >

> > Infact you have another good question arising here: what is the

> > definition of Yogada or MahaYogada planet? Hope others will give

> > their valuable input.

> >

> > Infact we should have a list of major rajayogas(time permitting)

> > involving various karakas(Atamkaraka/Amatyakaraka/Bhratri karaka)

> to

> > make things clear, before we jump to the conclusion that the

> planet

> > is yogada/a strong planet and start computing various dasas

> involving

> > Special Lagnas. Infact we may end up exploring the entire Jamini

> > Sutras and timing issues in this entire process(and all those

> people

> > who are searching jobs, businesses etc., may get another

dimension

> to

> > explore here...so special lagnas are critical and all thanks

> really

> > goes to Shri Sanjay Rath only.)

> >

> > Thanks and regards

> > RMK

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > Dear Rajesh Ji

> > >

> > > Thanks for your detailed reply again.

> > > Kindly call me pradeep.

> > >

> > > I understand your reference as Maha Yogada.I thank Sanjay Rath

> Ji

> > > and all for popularising Jaimini Sutras and publishing them on

> the

> > > net.Otherwise it would have been difficult to get such info

fast.

> > >

> > > Eligiblity privilige for seventh from these lagnas was

> > > informative.One doubt - can a planet aspect 2 of these lagnas

> and

> > > aspect the seventh from the 3rd lagna and still be a Maha

Yogada?

> > >

> > > I have understood the other points from your mail.

> > >

> > > Best regds & respect

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > > ology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

> <rajeshkumaria2000>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Pradeep ji

> > > > Here are some quick replies:

> > > > Yes you are right, that no rules can be applied as stand

> alone,

> > > but

> > > > then when you combine some major rules to get a prediction,

> then

> > > each

> > > > indvidual major rule becomes a critical component. So these

> rules

> > > are

> > > > esential since they are part of the entire horoscope

> structure.

> > > Here

> > > > are some more rules which can complete this picture(from Shri

> > > Rath's

> > > > book on Jamini Sutras)

> > > >

> > > > 1. "Stanza 1.3.24 and 1.3.25 Lagna, Hora Lagna and Ghatika

> Lagna

> > > > apspected or conjoined by one planet produces a

> Rajyoga."...The

> > > > aspect or cojunction mentioned , could be to the first house

> or

> > > > seventh house (form the three acendants i.e. lagna, hora

lagna

> or

> > > > ghatika lagna) and could occur in Rasi, Namsa or Drekkana

> charts

> > > > 2. "For powerful Rajyoga, the lagna, hora lagna and ghatika

> lagna

> > > (or

> > > > their senth house) should be aspected by one planet.. If the

> > > planet

> > > > fails to aspect either one of the three , the Rajyoga is

> reduce

> > > and

> > > > of it fails to aspect/join two of the three ascendants, the

> > > Rajyoga

> > > > is even weaker."..."also Sun is required to initiate the yoga

> and

> > > > Moon to sustain it..So such a planet should be linked to Sun

> and

> > > Mon

> > > > als otherwise only some effects are observed in the dasa of

> such

> > > a

> > > > planet."

> > > >

> > > > Now your original topic is Special Lagnas and you were

> focussing

> > > on

> > > > 7th house from AL... you wanted to know whether opposition to

> the

> > > > image (AL) will cause problems(even if benefics are in 7th

> > > > house)...Hope I understand you correctly... So my atempt is

to

> > > find

> > > > other factors related to 7th house and special lagnas which

> can

> > > > counter-act such an oppposition or improve the status

quo...so

> I

> > > > found Darapada(A7) rules and special lagna rules...

> > > >

> > > > Now when you combine these rules, and reach several small

> > > > interpretations, then combine them....

> > > > 1.giving importance to strength of such a planet(yogada) and

> its

> > > > links to Lagna, HL and GL

> > > > 2. Darpada strengthand its relationship with AL

> > > > 3. Argalas to lagna and seventh house

> > > > 4. opposition to image from planets in 7th from AL.

> > > >

> > > > ....only then you can get a better picture about the

> predictions

> > > > based on Special lagnas. So each part is essential for the

> > > complete

> > > > prediction. ALso when you reach a conclusion based on some

> major

> > > > combinations, then that its self is one major prediction.

> > Ofcourse

> > > > further for timing issues you have to go to dasas and

> transits.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > RMK

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Rajesh Ji

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for your reply.

> > > > > I think the statements you have quoted form Shri Rath Jis

> books

> > > (for

> > > > > eg points 1 & 2) are like any other astrological rule for

> > > analysis

> > > > > and hence cannot be applied as stand alone ones,am i

> > > right?.Because

> > > > > if we apply this verbatim the results might not be

> > consistent.So

> > > I

> > > > > think shri Sanjay Rath Ji might be mentioning other factors

> to

> > > be

> > > > > considered, somewhere else in the book or by default these

> > > factors

> > > > > should be known to a good astrologer.Kindly correct me.

> > > > >

> > > > > As i unfortunately don't have this book i checked BPHS for

> > > Argala.I

> > > > > could learn about the things mentioned by you in the same

> > > > > (BPHS).Thanks for this.So thus Argalas are like bolts which

> > > connect

> > > > > planets/houses.This can act as a 'Shrinkhala' or a chain or

> > > series

> > > > > for the planets with other important positions in the chart.

> > > > (Argalas

> > > > > from any house or planet are found in 2,4th,11th etc from

> > it.And

> > > > the

> > > > > obstructions for argalas are found from 10th 12th and 3rd).

> > > > > Thus i feel for any planet/house second from it represents

> its

> > > > > growth.4th from it is important.11 th represents growth of

> > > 10th.So

> > > > > the planets in these houses can influence the growth of

> these

> > > > > houses.And these 'Argalas' provides a link for the growth

of

> > the

> > > > > chart as a whole(growth depends on nature of Argala forming

> > > > > planets).And hence if there is no obstruction to benefic

> > > Argalas,

> > > > it

> > > > > results in good(Thus to LAGNA and 7th should result in good

> > > > > growth).Similarly if the Argala is bad then can we say

> > > obstruction

> > > > > for that is good.?Kindly help me in understanding this.I

> have

> > > also

> > > > > read that the net of Argala and obstruction has to be taken

> to

> > > > > understand relative strength.

> > > > >

> > > > > My initial question was related to 7th fom AL.This need not

> be

> > > > Arudha

> > > > > of 7th(Darapada)always.But your answer was pointing to

> A7.Could

> > > you

> > > > > kindly help me regarding this as well,provided you have

time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Regds

> > > > > Pradeep

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

> > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Although your question is not directed at me...If you

> kindly

> > > > allow

> > > > > me

> > > > > > to interfere, I found some interesting answers from Shri

> > > Sanjay

> > > > > > Rath's Jamini Sutras(1.3.17 Page 82)...also you have a

> good

> > > mind

> > > > > > boggling question by the way.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. "The darapada (A7) in a quadrant or trine from Arudha

> > Lagna

> > > > > brings

> > > > > > the blessings of Sr Devi(prosperity and god fortune)" . "

> > The

> > > > > > seventh house also decides matters pertaining to money

and

> > > > > business".

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. "If the Darapada is in other houses(other than the

> > > > > > quadrants/trines) the native is unfortunate. `The

Darapada

> in

> > > > > > 6th/8th/12th houses from Arudha Lagna makes the couple

> > > inimically

> > > > > > disposed dowards each other…not only is there poverty but

> the

> > > > > couple

> > > > > > are not physically compatible".

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3. Also Stanza 1.3.22 says " Good fortune should be

deuced

> if

> > > te

> > > > > > lagna or the seventh have unobstructed argala".."Benefics

> > > causing

> > > > > > argala on the lagna or the 7th house give wealth and

> > > > > > prosperity"…"Natural benefics means employed and fruits

> are

> > > > wealth,

> > > > > > prosperity and well being…Natural malefics means fould

> means…

> > > and

> > > > > the

> > > > > > fruits thereof, in the long run, are bound to be adverse".

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So Thanks to Shri Rath, there are several clarifications

> > > already

> > > > > > here. Now all we have to do is to apply these principles

> to

> > > > > various

> > > > > > charts. Good Luck.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > RMK

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic-

> astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Sudharsan Ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed explanation.Doubts regarding

8th

> > > from

> > > > AL

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > clear now.The example was also good.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ofcourse i have read the archives from this list as

well

> as

> > > > > achyuta

> > > > > > > gurukulam.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The questions were my doubts after reading

those.Because

> > > > > Narasimha

> > > > > > > Ji has done some analysis with respect to Ghati Lagna

> > > > alone.Thus

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > doubt and the first mail regarding this from me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now regarding 7th from AL.Exalted planets(benefics)

> > > aspecting

> > > > AL

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > good.So this can sit in 7th from AL and still aspect.So

> you

> > > > mean

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > say,suppose if this is a benefic like waxing moon or

> venus

> > > or

> > > > > > > jupiter,they will lose their benefic nature and act as

> > > badhak

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > AL?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks again for the reply

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > astrology, Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > <sudhar108>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dont mean to intrude.You can read all about the

> special

> > > > lagnas

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > you explore the archives. Narasimha ji and Sanjay ji

> have

> > > > > explained

> > > > > > > these lagnas and their use in great detail. Try the

> > messages

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > begining of this group i.e in 1999.In fact Narasimha

> starts

> > > the

> > > > > > > discussion group with a post on Hora Lagna and Ghati

> Lagna.

> > > In

> > > > > fact

> > > > > > > I reccomend this to everyone as I myself benefitted

> greatly

> > > by

> > > > > > > reading evey message by PVR and Sanjay ji right from

> > > inception.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 8th from AL is the second from the 7th from AL. The

> 7th

> > > from

> > > > AL

> > > > > > > represents others(people). The second from the 7th i.e

> the

> > > 8th

> > > > > > > represents the resources of others. Thus the 2nd house

> is

> > > your

> > > > > > > resource while the 2nd from 7th. i,e 8th represents

> others

> > > > > > resources.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To give you an example, if you try for a new

position

> > > while

> > > > > > > continuing in you current job, you will most certainly

> be

> > > using

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > current employers time to interview, use the current

> > > employers

> > > > PC

> > > > > > > for communicating with prospective employers etc. This

> is

> > an

> > > > > > example

> > > > > > > of how you will improve your status(AL) by employing

> others

> > > > (8th

> > > > > > > house) resources.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The 7th from AL is the opposition to that house. Any

> > > planet

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > is placed in it will lose its significance. A good

> example

> > > is

> > > > the

> > > > > > > placement of Rahu. Such people turn out to be very

> > spiritual

> > > as

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > qualities of Rahu(base, tamasic, materialistic) are

lost.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hope this helps.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Nitin Ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your explanation.

> > > > > > > > I have also read a little about the Arudha Lagna and

> > > various

> > > > > > > Arudha

> > > > > > > > Padas and their significance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why is 8th from AL considered as a resource? (2nd

from

> AL

> > > i

> > > > am

> > > > > > > > thinking is the 'dhanasthana' for AL).Is it because

> 8th

> > > > > > determines

> > > > > > > > the duration or life of the manifestation.

> > > > > > > > Why is seventh a Badhak? As it is opposite to the AL?

> In

> > > this

> > > > > case

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > the Badhakatipathi is well placed and is a

> benefic,then

> > > the

> > > > > ends

> > > > > > > > aimed by it should be for a good,though an obstacle.

(I

> > > mean

> > > > its

> > > > > > > > effect should be good).Also planets well placed in

> > > > > Badhakasthana

> > > > > > > > will aspect AL and hence should bear good results.Am

i

> > > > thinking

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the right direction here?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks again and regds

> > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nitin"

> > > > > > > <astronitin>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > |Namah Shivaaya|

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > You have asked a good question. I would consider

one

> > > taking

> > > > a

> > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > wholistic picture and considering all factors to

> paint

> > > an

> > > > > > > > integrated

> > > > > > > > > picture of the chart.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It also depends on what one is looking for? Are you

> > > > > considering

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > mind of the person (Chandra lagna), the physical

> body

> > > > > (lagnesh)

> > > > > > > > Satya

> > > > > > > > > Peeth (Lagna) or how things will manifest in the

> > > material

> > > > > word

> > > > > > > > > (Arudha Lagna)?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > For example, there are many principles given in

> Jaimini

> > > > > Sutras

> > > > > > > > > regarding reading from the Arudha Lagna (AL),

alone.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 3rd / 6th from the AL reveals the courage and

> rivalry

> > > about

> > > > a

> > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The Trines to the AL will give it direction, and a

> rise

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > image

> > > > > > > > > wil occur.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The 2nd and 8th from the AL will be resources to

the

> > > image.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The 7th will act like a baadhak (obstacle).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So, in a similar fashion, one could examine the

> Hora,

> > > Ghati

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Shri

> > > > > > > > > Lagna alone, but will miss on the entire picture.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hoep that some of this helps.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards,

> > > > > > > > > Nitin.

> > > > > > > > > :>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Dear and respected members

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have read about the importance of special

lagnas

> in

> > > > > > > analysing

> > > > > > > > > > charts.Apart from sun and moon there are others

> like

> > > > > > > Ghati ,Hora

> > > > > > > > > > representing power,wealth etc.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > But can we predict something based on just any

one

> of

> > > > these

> > > > > > > > Lagnas?

> > > > > > > > > > Because of permutation combinations we could

> always

> > > > deduct

> > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > yogas from some of these Lagnas.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an

> additional

> > > > > > > > > > confirmation.That is if some strength is present

> from

> > > > > > > > Rashi,Chandra

> > > > > > > > > > and Navamsha Varga, then we could go down to

Ghati

> or

> > > > Hora

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > > Sree

> > > > > > > > > > etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Because if you get the chart of a popular person

> you

> > > > could

> > > > > > > > manage

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > find some yogas from any of these lagnas and

> convince

> > > > using

> > > > > > > our

> > > > > > > > > > skills.But from an unpopular(this is a vague

> term!)

> > > chart

> > > > > can

> > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > predict something based on these alone.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sponsor

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-

> > > > > astrology/info.html

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri

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> ||

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > of

> > > > > > > Service.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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Dear Rajesh Ji

 

Thanks a lot for this useful article from shri Rath Ji.

Yes i was able to find such relations(Yogada) easily from many

charts.

 

I have seen an analysis from Narasimha Ji done for Bill Gates's

Dasamsha.Here he was clearly mentioning Rahu the lord of ascendant

aspecting HL and GL through Rashi drishti is forming Maha

Yogada.Rahu is placed in second house(pisces) with moon.Thus the

question from me - mere relation is enough or not?.

 

May be the Gurujis help us.

 

Respect

Pradeep

 

 

 

In vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

<rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep

> (if you feel like using ji, its Ok with me although I do not

insist

> on it since I am not really a Guru here).

>

> Now here are some quotes of an article by Shri Sanjay Rath in

which

> he published in April2003. Based on this and other obvious

factors,

> mere aspects(graha/rashi) to various lagnas cannot qualify the

planet

> as a Yogada or Mahayogada..the planet must ne involed in some

> rajyogas or its must be involved in various rajyogas/good yogas

based

> on charakarakas (i.e., it should be Atamkaraka, Amatayakaraka or

> Bhratrikaraka) and so it should be very strong basically , before

we

> go into aspects and dasas etc.,So it must have a great romose to

> fulfill on its own befoe we declare it a yogada(other wise merely

> aspects will qualify so many planets and the special lagnas are

just

> critical points in space(linked to a particular chart) which

become

> activated by the yogada/good planet but the strength of the planet

> aspecting such points should not be forgotten in the process. Its

> like a strong torch-light in the darkness and the batteries(power

of

> the light) control the strength and flow of this light(analogy).

>

> Aritcle on yogas(Shri Rath)is attached below...please see points 4

> and 5 below.

> Thanks and Regards

> RMK

> ________________

> 1.2 Yoga

> Yoga has many meanings and implications in astrology. Some of

these

> are listed below for a better understanding of the word. A

sambandha

> caused by any of these can be understood as samyoga.

>

> 1. It indicates yoking, joining, harnessing or attaching like

> yoking a team to play a game or yoking horses to pull a carriage.

It

> implies that the individual parts involved in the yoga (yoke)

should

> function in harmony. In Jyotiúa, these are called paraspara-yoga-

> kâraka or mutual co-workers.

>

> 2. It indicates and undertaking, business, action, work or

> employment of some kind for the purpose of earning wealth,

> acquisition, gains or profit or property. In Jyotiúa, these are

> called sûrya yoga or more precisely, âditya yoga.

>

> 3. It indicates any conjunction, union, combination or

contact

> and indicates mixing or a mixture. In Jyotiúa, these are called

Graha

> yoga and are named based on the number of planets conjoining in a

> sign.

>

> 4. It indicates a connection or relationship as a consequence

> of, or reason or because of something else. The reason or cause is

> the kâraka (significator) and consequently, these yogas are called

> Kâraka yoga in Jyotiúa.

>

> 5. It indicates putting together or arranging, based on

> disposition in a regular succession. In Jyotiúa, the longitudes of

> the individual planets are considered to arrange them in a regular

> succession of decreasing (longitudinal) hierarchy called `Chara

> kâraka'. These planets then acquire the potential for various

> generating yogas.

>

> 6. It indicates zealous endeavor with care and using all of

> one's powers to achieve a goal. Such zeal can only come from the

> individual soul called the âtmakâraka indicating the natives

strong

> inner urges and desires. The yogas, in Jyotiúa are consequently

> called âtmakâraka yoga or simply kâraka yoga.

>

> 7. It indicates abstract contemplation; meditation and such

> other practices to attain union (yoga) with God and all these are

> called adhyâtma yoga (spirituality) in Jyotiúa. It includes

> renunciation (sanyâsa yoga), mantra úâstra, Pâtanjali's (samkhya-

II)

> yoga philosophy, rituals (where yoga is personified as the son of

> Dharma & Kriya) etc.

>

> 8. It indicates the union of pûruúa (spirit personified as

> father) and prâkritî (nature personified as mother) for the

purpose

> of all creation (samkhya úastra). In Jyotiúa, the Sun indicates

the

> pûruúa and the Moon indicates prâkritî. The relationship between

> these planets indicates the Yoga of birth of which there are 27

> types. This leads to yet another meaning for the word yoga as

`sum'

> in arithmetic.

>

> 9. It indicates the constellation (of the 27 nakúatra),

which

> is conjoined the Moon and is called `Candra yoga'. This is

extended

> into other varieties of Candra yoga based on certain planetary

> positions that influence the health and mind. The nakúatra which

do

> not have the conjunction or association of the Moon are called

`Kha

> yoga' or having the yoga (association) of the sky (kha). This

leads

> to another variety of Jyotiúa combinations called Kha yoga or

Nâbhasa

> yoga.

>

> In this manner, the various meanings of the word yoga can be

studies

> with a focus on its relevance to Vedic astrology. Suffice is to

say

> that the word has a very deep meaning and any superficial reading

> will cause a vacuum in our understanding and judging of real life

> situations.

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > Dear Rajesh ji

> >

> > Kindly permit me to address you with a ji,i belv i am younger to

> you.

> >

> > What you have mentioned in your initial mail defines Maha

yogada.A

> > planet connected to all the three lagnas,may confer Maha Yoga

and

> > hence the name Maha Yoga Da - giver or 'Da'tha of Yoga.If it is

not

> > connected to all the three but just one or two then it is yogada

> and

> > not Maha.

> >

> > But i believe,Maha Yogadas might not be very difficult to

> > find.Because apart from graha drishti,Rashi drishtis can also be

> > used to relate a planet to these three lagnas.And infact

multiple

> > Maha Yogadas can be found.

> >

> > Thus may be as you have mentioned the strength of the Yogada

> planets

> > plus,sun,moon etc are very crucial.

> > May be the Gurus throw more light and help us.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

> > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > Dear Pradeep

> > > (please just call me Rajesh or RMK)

> > >

> > > Yes as per definition of Yogada, the planet will qualify when

it

> > > aspects 2 of the lagnas and the aspects the seventh from 3rd

> > lagna. I

> > > am not sure about the term " MahaYogada"... But I assume that

the

> > so

> > > called Yogada must be strong it self i.e., Its placed in its

> > exalted,

> > > own or freindly sign and is not combust or afflicted or

involved

> > in

> > > Rashi Sandhi etc., otherwise it may not qualify as a yogada if

> its

> > > weak itself. Also we are assuming here that the yogada planet

to

> > be

> > > Atamkaraka/Amatyakaraka/Bhratri karaka and involved in other

> > rajyogas

> > > (as mentioned by Sarajit and others).

> > >

> > > Infact you have another good question arising here: what is

the

> > > definition of Yogada or MahaYogada planet? Hope others will

give

> > > their valuable input.

> > >

> > > Infact we should have a list of major rajayogas(time

permitting)

> > > involving various karakas(Atamkaraka/Amatyakaraka/Bhratri

karaka)

> > to

> > > make things clear, before we jump to the conclusion that the

> > planet

> > > is yogada/a strong planet and start computing various dasas

> > involving

> > > Special Lagnas. Infact we may end up exploring the entire

Jamini

> > > Sutras and timing issues in this entire process(and all those

> > people

> > > who are searching jobs, businesses etc., may get another

> dimension

> > to

> > > explore here...so special lagnas are critical and all thanks

> > really

> > > goes to Shri Sanjay Rath only.)

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards

> > > RMK

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > Dear Rajesh Ji

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your detailed reply again.

> > > > Kindly call me pradeep.

> > > >

> > > > I understand your reference as Maha Yogada.I thank Sanjay

Rath

> > Ji

> > > > and all for popularising Jaimini Sutras and publishing them

on

> > the

> > > > net.Otherwise it would have been difficult to get such info

> fast.

> > > >

> > > > Eligiblity privilige for seventh from these lagnas was

> > > > informative.One doubt - can a planet aspect 2 of these

lagnas

> > and

> > > > aspect the seventh from the 3rd lagna and still be a Maha

> Yogada?

> > > >

> > > > I have understood the other points from your mail.

> > > >

> > > > Best regds & respect

> > > > Pradeep

> > > >

> > > > ology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

> > <rajeshkumaria2000>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Pradeep ji

> > > > > Here are some quick replies:

> > > > > Yes you are right, that no rules can be applied as stand

> > alone,

> > > > but

> > > > > then when you combine some major rules to get a

prediction,

> > then

> > > > each

> > > > > indvidual major rule becomes a critical component. So

these

> > rules

> > > > are

> > > > > esential since they are part of the entire horoscope

> > structure.

> > > > Here

> > > > > are some more rules which can complete this picture(from

Shri

> > > > Rath's

> > > > > book on Jamini Sutras)

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. "Stanza 1.3.24 and 1.3.25 Lagna, Hora Lagna and Ghatika

> > Lagna

> > > > > apspected or conjoined by one planet produces a

> > Rajyoga."...The

> > > > > aspect or cojunction mentioned , could be to the first

house

> > or

> > > > > seventh house (form the three acendants i.e. lagna, hora

> lagna

> > or

> > > > > ghatika lagna) and could occur in Rasi, Namsa or Drekkana

> > charts

> > > > > 2. "For powerful Rajyoga, the lagna, hora lagna and

ghatika

> > lagna

> > > > (or

> > > > > their senth house) should be aspected by one planet.. If

the

> > > > planet

> > > > > fails to aspect either one of the three , the Rajyoga is

> > reduce

> > > > and

> > > > > of it fails to aspect/join two of the three ascendants,

the

> > > > Rajyoga

> > > > > is even weaker."..."also Sun is required to initiate the

yoga

> > and

> > > > > Moon to sustain it..So such a planet should be linked to

Sun

> > and

> > > > Mon

> > > > > als otherwise only some effects are observed in the dasa

of

> > such

> > > > a

> > > > > planet."

> > > > >

> > > > > Now your original topic is Special Lagnas and you were

> > focussing

> > > > on

> > > > > 7th house from AL... you wanted to know whether opposition

to

> > the

> > > > > image (AL) will cause problems(even if benefics are in 7th

> > > > > house)...Hope I understand you correctly... So my atempt

is

> to

> > > > find

> > > > > other factors related to 7th house and special lagnas

which

> > can

> > > > > counter-act such an oppposition or improve the status

> quo...so

> > I

> > > > > found Darapada(A7) rules and special lagna rules...

> > > > >

> > > > > Now when you combine these rules, and reach several small

> > > > > interpretations, then combine them....

> > > > > 1.giving importance to strength of such a planet(yogada)

and

> > its

> > > > > links to Lagna, HL and GL

> > > > > 2. Darpada strengthand its relationship with AL

> > > > > 3. Argalas to lagna and seventh house

> > > > > 4. opposition to image from planets in 7th from AL.

> > > > >

> > > > > ....only then you can get a better picture about the

> > predictions

> > > > > based on Special lagnas. So each part is essential for the

> > > > complete

> > > > > prediction. ALso when you reach a conclusion based on some

> > major

> > > > > combinations, then that its self is one major prediction.

> > > Ofcourse

> > > > > further for timing issues you have to go to dasas and

> > transits.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > RMK

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic-

astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Rajesh Ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for your reply.

> > > > > > I think the statements you have quoted form Shri Rath

Jis

> > books

> > > > (for

> > > > > > eg points 1 & 2) are like any other astrological rule

for

> > > > analysis

> > > > > > and hence cannot be applied as stand alone ones,am i

> > > > right?.Because

> > > > > > if we apply this verbatim the results might not be

> > > consistent.So

> > > > I

> > > > > > think shri Sanjay Rath Ji might be mentioning other

factors

> > to

> > > > be

> > > > > > considered, somewhere else in the book or by default

these

> > > > factors

> > > > > > should be known to a good astrologer.Kindly correct me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As i unfortunately don't have this book i checked BPHS

for

> > > > Argala.I

> > > > > > could learn about the things mentioned by you in the same

> > > > > > (BPHS).Thanks for this.So thus Argalas are like bolts

which

> > > > connect

> > > > > > planets/houses.This can act as a 'Shrinkhala' or a chain

or

> > > > series

> > > > > > for the planets with other important positions in the

chart.

> > > > > (Argalas

> > > > > > from any house or planet are found in 2,4th,11th etc

from

> > > it.And

> > > > > the

> > > > > > obstructions for argalas are found from 10th 12th and

3rd).

> > > > > > Thus i feel for any planet/house second from it

represents

> > its

> > > > > > growth.4th from it is important.11 th represents growth

of

> > > > 10th.So

> > > > > > the planets in these houses can influence the growth of

> > these

> > > > > > houses.And these 'Argalas' provides a link for the

growth

> of

> > > the

> > > > > > chart as a whole(growth depends on nature of Argala

forming

> > > > > > planets).And hence if there is no obstruction to

benefic

> > > > Argalas,

> > > > > it

> > > > > > results in good(Thus to LAGNA and 7th should result in

good

> > > > > > growth).Similarly if the Argala is bad then can we say

> > > > obstruction

> > > > > > for that is good.?Kindly help me in understanding this.I

> > have

> > > > also

> > > > > > read that the net of Argala and obstruction has to be

taken

> > to

> > > > > > understand relative strength.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My initial question was related to 7th fom AL.This need

not

> > be

> > > > > Arudha

> > > > > > of 7th(Darapada)always.But your answer was pointing to

> > A7.Could

> > > > you

> > > > > > kindly help me regarding this as well,provided you have

> time.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Best Regds

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh M.

Kumaria"

> > > > > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Although your question is not directed at me...If you

> > kindly

> > > > > allow

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > to interfere, I found some interesting answers from

Shri

> > > > Sanjay

> > > > > > > Rath's Jamini Sutras(1.3.17 Page 82)...also you have a

> > good

> > > > mind

> > > > > > > boggling question by the way.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. "The darapada (A7) in a quadrant or trine from

Arudha

> > > Lagna

> > > > > > brings

> > > > > > > the blessings of Sr Devi(prosperity and god

fortune)" . "

> …

> > > The

> > > > > > > seventh house also decides matters pertaining to money

> and

> > > > > > business".

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. "If the Darapada is in other houses(other than the

> > > > > > > quadrants/trines) the native is unfortunate. `The

> Darapada

> > in

> > > > > > > 6th/8th/12th houses from Arudha Lagna makes the couple

> > > > inimically

> > > > > > > disposed dowards each other…not only is there poverty

but

> > the

> > > > > > couple

> > > > > > > are not physically compatible".

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 3. Also Stanza 1.3.22 says " Good fortune should be

> deuced

> > if

> > > > te

> > > > > > > lagna or the seventh have unobstructed

argala".."Benefics

> > > > causing

> > > > > > > argala on the lagna or the 7th house give wealth and

> > > > > > > prosperity"…"Natural benefics means employed and

fruits

> > are

> > > > > wealth,

> > > > > > > prosperity and well being…Natural malefics means fould

> > means…

> > > > and

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > fruits thereof, in the long run, are bound to be

adverse".

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So Thanks to Shri Rath, there are several

clarifications

> > > > already

> > > > > > > here. Now all we have to do is to apply these

principles

> > to

> > > > > > various

> > > > > > > charts. Good Luck.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > > > RMK

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > vedic-

> > astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear Sudharsan Ji

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed explanation.Doubts regarding

> 8th

> > > > from

> > > > > AL

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > clear now.The example was also good.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ofcourse i have read the archives from this list as

> well

> > as

> > > > > > achyuta

> > > > > > > > gurukulam.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The questions were my doubts after reading

> those.Because

> > > > > > Narasimha

> > > > > > > > Ji has done some analysis with respect to Ghati

Lagna

> > > > > alone.Thus

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > doubt and the first mail regarding this from me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Now regarding 7th from AL.Exalted planets(benefics)

> > > > aspecting

> > > > > AL

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > good.So this can sit in 7th from AL and still

aspect.So

> > you

> > > > > mean

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > say,suppose if this is a benefic like waxing moon or

> > venus

> > > > or

> > > > > > > > jupiter,they will lose their benefic nature and act

as

> > > > badhak

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > AL?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks again for the reply

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > astrology, Sudharsan Srinivasan

> > > > > <sudhar108>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dont mean to intrude.You can read all about the

> > special

> > > > > lagnas

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > you explore the archives. Narasimha ji and Sanjay ji

> > have

> > > > > > explained

> > > > > > > > these lagnas and their use in great detail. Try the

> > > messages

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > begining of this group i.e in 1999.In fact Narasimha

> > starts

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > discussion group with a post on Hora Lagna and Ghati

> > Lagna.

> > > > In

> > > > > > fact

> > > > > > > > I reccomend this to everyone as I myself benefitted

> > greatly

> > > > by

> > > > > > > > reading evey message by PVR and Sanjay ji right from

> > > > inception.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 8th from AL is the second from the 7th from AL.

The

> > 7th

> > > > from

> > > > > AL

> > > > > > > > represents others(people). The second from the 7th

i.e

> > the

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > > > represents the resources of others. Thus the 2nd

house

> > is

> > > > your

> > > > > > > > resource while the 2nd from 7th. i,e 8th represents

> > others

> > > > > > > resources.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > To give you an example, if you try for a new

> position

> > > > while

> > > > > > > > continuing in you current job, you will most

certainly

> > be

> > > > using

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > > current employers time to interview, use the current

> > > > employers

> > > > > PC

> > > > > > > > for communicating with prospective employers etc.

This

> > is

> > > an

> > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > of how you will improve your status(AL) by employing

> > others

> > > > > (8th

> > > > > > > > house) resources.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The 7th from AL is the opposition to that house.

Any

> > > > planet

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > is placed in it will lose its significance. A good

> > example

> > > > is

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > placement of Rahu. Such people turn out to be very

> > > spiritual

> > > > as

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > qualities of Rahu(base, tamasic, materialistic) are

> lost.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hope this helps.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sudharsan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear Nitin Ji

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your explanation.

> > > > > > > > > I have also read a little about the Arudha Lagna

and

> > > > various

> > > > > > > > Arudha

> > > > > > > > > Padas and their significance.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why is 8th from AL considered as a resource? (2nd

> from

> > AL

> > > > i

> > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > thinking is the 'dhanasthana' for AL).Is it

because

> > 8th

> > > > > > > determines

> > > > > > > > > the duration or life of the manifestation.

> > > > > > > > > Why is seventh a Badhak? As it is opposite to the

AL?

> > In

> > > > this

> > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > the Badhakatipathi is well placed and is a

> > benefic,then

> > > > the

> > > > > > ends

> > > > > > > > > aimed by it should be for a good,though an

obstacle.

> (I

> > > > mean

> > > > > its

> > > > > > > > > effect should be good).Also planets well placed in

> > > > > > Badhakasthana

> > > > > > > > > will aspect AL and hence should bear good

results.Am

> i

> > > > > thinking

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > the right direction here?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Thanks again and regds

> > > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Nitin"

> > > > > > > > <astronitin>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > |Namah Shivaaya|

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > You have asked a good question. I would consider

> one

> > > > taking

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > more

> > > > > > > > > > wholistic picture and considering all factors to

> > paint

> > > > an

> > > > > > > > > integrated

> > > > > > > > > > picture of the chart.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It also depends on what one is looking for? Are

you

> > > > > > considering

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > mind of the person (Chandra lagna), the physical

> > body

> > > > > > (lagnesh)

> > > > > > > > > Satya

> > > > > > > > > > Peeth (Lagna) or how things will manifest in the

> > > > material

> > > > > > word

> > > > > > > > > > (Arudha Lagna)?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > For example, there are many principles given in

> > Jaimini

> > > > > > Sutras

> > > > > > > > > > regarding reading from the Arudha Lagna (AL),

> alone.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 3rd / 6th from the AL reveals the courage and

> > rivalry

> > > > about

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > person.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The Trines to the AL will give it direction, and

a

> > rise

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > image

> > > > > > > > > > wil occur.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The 2nd and 8th from the AL will be resources to

> the

> > > > image.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The 7th will act like a baadhak (obstacle).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > So, in a similar fashion, one could examine the

> > Hora,

> > > > Ghati

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > Shri

> > > > > > > > > > Lagna alone, but will miss on the entire

picture.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hoep that some of this helps.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Nitin.

> > > > > > > > > > :>

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> > > > astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep"

> > > > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear and respected members

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have read about the importance of special

> lagnas

> > in

> > > > > > > > analysing

> > > > > > > > > > > charts.Apart from sun and moon there are

others

> > like

> > > > > > > > Ghati ,Hora

> > > > > > > > > > > representing power,wealth etc.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > But can we predict something based on just any

> one

> > of

> > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > Lagnas?

> > > > > > > > > > > Because of permutation combinations we could

> > always

> > > > > deduct

> > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > yogas from some of these Lagnas.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an

> > additional

> > > > > > > > > > > confirmation.That is if some strength is

present

> > from

> > > > > > > > > Rashi,Chandra

> > > > > > > > > > > and Navamsha Varga, then we could go down to

> Ghati

> > or

> > > > > Hora

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > Sree

> > > > > > > > > > > etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Because if you get the chart of a popular

person

> > you

> > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > manage

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > find some yogas from any of these lagnas and

> > convince

> > > > > using

> > > > > > > > our

> > > > > > > > > > > skills.But from an unpopular(this is a vague

> > term!)

> > > > chart

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > > > predict something based on these alone.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Sponsor

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Archives: vedic-

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic-

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> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

> > > > > > > > >

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....is enough. First thing to detect, How will it manifest is the second

Best wishes,

Annavijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote:

Dear Rajesh JiThanks a lot for this useful article from shri Rath Ji.Yes i was

able to find such relations(Yogada) easily from many charts.I have seen an

analysis from Narasimha Ji done for Bill Gates's Dasamsha.Here he was clearly

mentioning Rahu the lord of ascendant aspecting HL and GL through Rashi drishti

is forming Maha Yogada.Rahu is placed in second house(pisces) with moon.Thus the

question from me - mere relation is enough or not?.May be the Gurujis help

us.RespectPradeepIn vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria"

<rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> Dear Pradeep> (if you feel like using ji, its

Ok with me although I do not insist > on it since I am not really a Guru

here).> > Now here are some quotes of an article by Shri Sanjay Rath in

which > he published in April2003. Based on this and other obvious factors, >

mere aspects(graha/rashi) to various lagnas cannot qualify the planet > as a

Yogada or Mahayogada..the planet must ne involed in some > rajyogas or its must

be involved in various rajyogas/good yogas based > on charakarakas (i.e., it

should be Atamkaraka, Amatayakaraka or > Bhratrikaraka) and so it should be

very strong basically , before we > go into aspects and dasas etc.,So it must

have a great romose to > fulfill on its own befoe we declare it a yogada(other

wise merely > aspects will qualify so many planets and the special lagnas are

just> critical points in space(linked to a particular chart) which become >

activated by the yogada/good planet but the strength of the planet > aspecting

such points should not be forgotten in the process. Its > like a strong

torch-light in the darkness

and the batteries(power of > the light) control the strength and flow of this

light(analogy).> > Aritcle on yogas(Shri Rath)is attached below...please see

points 4 > and 5 below.> Thanks and Regards> RMK>

________________> 1.2

Yoga> Yoga has many meanings and implications in astrology. Some of these > are

listed below for a better understanding of the word. A sambandha > caused by any

of these can be understood as samyoga.> > 1. It indicates yoking, joining,

harnessing or attaching like > yoking a team to play a game or yoking horses to

pull a carriage. It > implies that the individual parts involved in the yoga

(yoke) should > function in harmony. In Jyotiúa, these are called

paraspara-yoga-> kâraka or mutual

co-workers.> > 2. It indicates and undertaking, business, action, work or >

employment of some kind for the purpose of earning wealth, > acquisition, gains

or profit or property. In Jyotiúa, these are > called sûrya yoga or more

precisely, âditya yoga. > > 3. It indicates any conjunction, union,

combination or contact > and indicates mixing or a mixture. In Jyotiúa, these

are called Graha > yoga and are named based on the number of planets conjoining

in a > sign.> > 4. It indicates a connection or relationship as a

consequence > of, or reason or because of something else. The reason or cause

is > the kâraka (significator) and consequently, these yogas are called >

Kâraka yoga in Jyotiúa. > > 5. It indicates putting together or arranging,

based on > disposition in a regular succession. In Jyotiúa, the longitudes of >

the individual planets are considered to arrange them in a regular > succession

of decreasing (longitudinal) hierarchy called `Chara > kâraka'. These planets

then acquire the potential for various > generating yogas.> > 6. It

indicates zealous endeavor with care and using all of > one's powers to achieve

a goal. Such zeal can only come from the > individual soul called the âtmakâraka

indicating the natives strong > inner urges and desires. The yogas, in Jyotiúa

are consequently > called âtmakâraka yoga or simply kâraka yoga. > > 7. It

indicates abstract contemplation; meditation and such > other practices to

attain union (yoga) with God and all these are > called adhyâtma yoga

(spirituality) in Jyotiúa. It includes > renunciation

(sanyâsa yoga), mantra úâstra, Pâtanjali's (samkhya-II) > yoga philosophy,

rituals (where yoga is personified as the son of > Dharma & Kriya) etc.> > 8.

It indicates the union of pûruúa (spirit personified as > father) and

prâkritî (nature personified as mother) for the purpose > of all creation

(samkhya úastra). In Jyotiúa, the Sun indicates the > pûruúa and the Moon

indicates prâkritî. The relationship between > these planets indicates the Yoga

of birth of which there are 27 > types. This leads to yet another meaning for

the word yoga as `sum' > in arithmetic.> > 9. It indicates the

constellation (of the 27 nakúatra), which > is conjoined the Moon and is called

`Candra yoga'. This is extended > into other varieties of Candra yoga based on

certain planetary > positions that influence

the health and mind. The nakúatra which do > not have the conjunction or

association of the Moon are called `Kha > yoga' or having the yoga

(association) of the sky (kha). This leads > to another variety of Jyotiúa

combinations called Kha yoga or Nâbhasa > yoga. > > In this manner, the

various meanings of the word yoga can be studies > with a focus on its

relevance to Vedic astrology. Suffice is to say > that the word has a very deep

meaning and any superficial reading > will cause a vacuum in our understanding

and judging of real life > situations.> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > <vijayadas_pradeep>

wrote:> > Dear Rajesh ji> > > > Kindly permit me to address you with a ji,i belv

i am younger to > you.> > > > What you have mentioned in your

initial mail defines Maha yogada.A > > planet connected to all the three

lagnas,may confer Maha Yoga and > > hence the name Maha Yoga Da - giver or

'Da'tha of Yoga.If it is not > > connected to all the three but just one or two

then it is yogada > and > > not Maha.> > > > But i believe,Maha Yogadas might

not be very difficult to > > find.Because apart from graha drishti,Rashi

drishtis can also be > > used to relate a planet to these three lagnas.And

infact multiple > > Maha Yogadas can be found.> > > > Thus may be as you have

mentioned the strength of the Yogada > planets > > plus,sun,moon etc are very

crucial.> > May be the Gurus throw more light and help us.> > > > Regds> >

Pradeep> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh

M. Kumaria" > > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> > > Dear Pradeep> > > (please

just call me Rajesh or RMK)> > > > > > Yes as per definition of Yogada, the

planet will qualify when it > > > aspects 2 of the lagnas and the aspects the

seventh from 3rd > > lagna. I > > > am not sure about the term " MahaYogada"...

But I assume that the > > so > > > called Yogada must be strong it self i.e.,

Its placed in its > > exalted, > > > own or freindly sign and is not combust or

afflicted or involved > > in > > > Rashi Sandhi etc., otherwise it may not

qualify as a yogada if > its > > > weak itself. Also we are assuming here that

the yogada planet to > > be > > > Atamkaraka/Amatyakaraka/Bhratri karaka and

involved in other > > rajyogas> > > (as

mentioned by Sarajit and others). > > > > > > Infact you have another good

question arising here: what is the > > > definition of Yogada or MahaYogada

planet? Hope others will give > > > their valuable input.> > > > > > Infact we

should have a list of major rajayogas(time permitting) > > > involving various

karakas(Atamkaraka/Amatyakaraka/Bhratri karaka) > > to > > > make things clear,

before we jump to the conclusion that the > > planet > > > is yogada/a strong

planet and start computing various dasas > > involving > > > Special Lagnas.

Infact we may end up exploring the entire Jamini > > > Sutras and timing issues

in this entire process(and all those > > people > > > who are searching jobs,

businesses etc., may get another > dimension > > to >

> > explore here...so special lagnas are critical and all thanks > > really > >

> goes to Shri Sanjay Rath only.)> > > > > > Thanks and regards> > > RMK> > > >

> > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > >

> <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > > Dear Rajesh Ji> > > > > > > > Thanks

for your detailed reply again.> > > > Kindly call me pradeep.> > > > > > > > I

understand your reference as Maha Yogada.I thank Sanjay Rath > > Ji > > > > and

all for popularising Jaimini Sutras and publishing them on > > the > > > >

net.Otherwise it would have been difficult to get such info > fast.> > > > > >

> > Eligiblity privilige for

seventh from these lagnas was > > > > informative.One doubt - can a planet

aspect 2 of these lagnas > > and > > > > aspect the seventh from the 3rd lagna

and still be a Maha > Yogada?> > > > > > > > I have understood the other points

from your mail.> > > > > > > > Best regds & respect> > > > Pradeep > > > > > > >

> ology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria" > > <rajeshkumaria2000> > > >

> wrote:> > > > > Dear Pradeep ji> > > > > Here are some quick replies:> > > >

> Yes you are right, that no rules can be applied as stand > > alone, > > > >

but > > > > > then when you combine some major rules to get a prediction, > >

then > > > > each >

> > > > indvidual major rule becomes a critical component. So these > > rules >

> > > are > > > > > esential since they are part of the entire horoscope > >

structure. > > > > Here > > > > > are some more rules which can complete this

picture(from Shri > > > > Rath's > > > > > book on Jamini Sutras)> > > > > > >

> > > 1. "Stanza 1.3.24 and 1.3.25 Lagna, Hora Lagna and Ghatika > > Lagna > >

> > > apspected or conjoined by one planet produces a > > Rajyoga."...The > > >

> > aspect or cojunction mentioned , could be to the first house > > or > > > >

> seventh house (form the three acendants i.e. lagna, hora > lagna > > or > > >

> > ghatika lagna) and could occur in Rasi, Namsa or

Drekkana > > charts> > > > > 2. "For powerful Rajyoga, the lagna, hora lagna

and ghatika > > lagna> > > > (or > > > > > their senth house) should be

aspected by one planet.. If the > > > > planet > > > > > fails to aspect either

one of the three , the Rajyoga is > > reduce > > > > and > > > > > of it fails

to aspect/join two of the three ascendants, the > > > > Rajyoga > > > > > is

even weaker."..."also Sun is required to initiate the yoga > > and > > > > >

Moon to sustain it..So such a planet should be linked to Sun > > and > > > >

Mon > > > > > als otherwise only some effects are observed in the dasa of > >

such > > > > a > > > > >

planet."> > > > > > > > > > Now your original topic is Special Lagnas and you

were > > focussing > > > > on > > > > > 7th house from AL... you wanted to know

whether opposition to > > the > > > > > image (AL) will cause problems(even if

benefics are in 7th > > > > > house)...Hope I understand you correctly... So my

atempt is > to > > > > find > > > > > other factors related to 7th house and

special lagnas which > > can > > > > > counter-act such an oppposition or

improve the status > quo...so > > I > > > > > found Darapada(A7) rules and

special lagna rules... > > > > > > > > > > Now when you combine these rules,

and reach several small > > > > > interpretations, then combine

them....> > > > > 1.giving importance to strength of such a planet(yogada) and >

> its > > > > > links to Lagna, HL and GL> > > > > 2. Darpada strengthand its

relationship with AL > > > > > 3. Argalas to lagna and seventh house> > > > >

4. opposition to image from planets in 7th from AL.> > > > > > > > > > ....only

then you can get a better picture about the > > predictions > > > > > based on

Special lagnas. So each part is essential for the > > > > complete > > > > >

prediction. ALso when you reach a conclusion based on some > > major > > > > >

combinations, then that its self is one major prediction. > > > Ofcourse > > >

> > further for timing issues you have to go to dasas and > > transits. >

> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > RMK> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > > >

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Rajesh Ji> > > > > > > > > > >

> Thanks for your reply.> > > > > > I think the statements you have quoted form

Shri Rath Jis > > books> > > > (for > > > > > > eg points 1 & 2) are like any

other astrological rule for > > > > analysis > > > > > > and hence cannot be

applied as stand alone ones,am i > > > > right?.Because > > > > > > if we apply

this verbatim the results might not be > > > consistent.So > > > > I

> > > > > > think shri Sanjay Rath Ji might be mentioning other factors > > to >

> > > be > > > > > > considered, somewhere else in the book or by default these

> > > > factors > > > > > > should be known to a good astrologer.Kindly correct

me.> > > > > > > > > > > > As i unfortunately don't have this book i checked

BPHS for > > > > Argala.I > > > > > > could learn about the things mentioned by

you in the same> > > > > > (BPHS).Thanks for this.So thus Argalas are like bolts

which > > > > connect > > > > > > planets/houses.This can act as a 'Shrinkhala'

or a chain or > > > > series > > > > > > for the planets with other important

positions in the chart.> > > >

> (Argalas > > > > > > from any house or planet are found in 2,4th,11th etc from

> > > it.And > > > > > the > > > > > > obstructions for argalas are found from

10th 12th and 3rd).> > > > > > Thus i feel for any planet/house second from it

represents > > its > > > > > > growth.4th from it is important.11 th represents

growth of > > > > 10th.So > > > > > > the planets in these houses can influence

the growth of > > these > > > > > > houses.And these 'Argalas' provides a link

for the growth > of > > > the > > > > > > chart as a whole(growth depends on

nature of Argala forming > > > > > > planets).And hence if there is no

obstruction to benefic > > > > Argalas, > >

> > > it > > > > > > results in good(Thus to LAGNA and 7th should result in good

> > > > > > growth).Similarly if the Argala is bad then can we say > > > >

obstruction > > > > > > for that is good.?Kindly help me in understanding

this.I > > have > > > > also > > > > > > read that the net of Argala and

obstruction has to be taken > > to > > > > > > understand relative strength. >

> > > > > > > > > > > My initial question was related to 7th fom AL.This need

not > > be > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > of 7th(Darapada)always.But your answer

was pointing to > > A7.Could > > > > you > > > > > > kindly help me regarding

this as well,provided you have > time.>

> > > > > > > > > > > Best Regds> > > > > > Pradeep> > > > > > > > > > > > ---

In vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria" > > > > > >

<rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Pradeep,> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > Although your question is not directed at me...If you > > kindly > > > > >

allow > > > > > > me > > > > > > > to interfere, I found some interesting

answers from Shri > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > Rath's Jamini Sutras(1.3.17 Page

82)...also you have a > > good > > > > mind > > > > > > > boggling question by

the way.> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > 1. "The darapada (A7) in a quadrant or trine from Arudha > > > Lagna > >

> > > > brings > > > > > > > the blessings of Sr Devi(prosperity and god

fortune)" . " > …> > > The > > > > > > > seventh house also decides matters

pertaining to money > and > > > > > > business".> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.

"If the Darapada is in other houses(other than the > > > > > > >

quadrants/trines) the native is unfortunate. `The > Darapada > > in > > > > > >

> 6th/8th/12th houses from Arudha Lagna makes the couple > > > > inimically > >

> > > > > disposed dowards each other…not only is there poverty but > > the > >

> > > > couple > > >

> > > > are not physically compatible".> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Also

Stanza 1.3.22 says " Good fortune should be > deuced > > if > > > > te > > > >

> > > lagna or the seventh have unobstructed argala".."Benefics > > > > causing

> > > > > > > argala on the lagna or the 7th house give wealth and > > > > > > >

prosperity"…"Natural benefics means employed and fruits > > are > > > > >

wealth, > > > > > > > prosperity and well being…Natural malefics means fould >

> means…> > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > fruits thereof, in the long

run, are bound to be adverse".> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So Thanks to Shri

Rath, there are several clarifications > > > > already > > > > > > > here. Now

all we have to do is to apply these principles > > to > > > > > > various > >

> > > > > charts. Good Luck.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > >

> > > > RMK> > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic-> >

astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > > > > > >

<vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Sudharsan Ji> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for the detailed explanation.Doubts regarding > 8th > > >

> from > > > > > AL > > > > > > is > > >

> > > > > clear now.The example was also good.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Ofcourse i have read the archives from this list as > well > > as > > > > > >

achyuta > > > > > > > > gurukulam.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The questions

were my doubts after reading > those.Because > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > >

> Ji has done some analysis with respect to Ghati Lagna > > > > > alone.Thus > >

> > > > > the > > > > > > > > doubt and the first mail regarding this from me.>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now regarding 7th from AL.Exalted

planets(benefics) > > > > aspecting > > >

> > AL > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > good.So this can sit in 7th from AL and

still aspect.So > > you > > > > > mean > > > > > > to > > > > > > > >

say,suppose if this is a benefic like waxing moon or > > venus > > > > or > > >

> > > > > jupiter,they will lose their benefic nature and act as > > > > badhak

> > > > > > for > > > > > > > > AL?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again

for the reply> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > Pradeep> > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> astrology, Sudharsan Srinivasan > > > > > <sudhar108> > >

> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > Dear Pradeep,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dont mean to

intrude.You can read all about the > > special > > > > > lagnas > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > you explore the archives. Narasimha ji and Sanjay ji > > have >

> > > > > explained > > > > > > > > these lagnas and their use in great detail.

Try the > > > messages > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > begining of

this

group i.e in 1999.In fact Narasimha > > starts > > > > the > > > > > > > >

discussion group with a post on Hora Lagna and Ghati > > Lagna. > > > > In > >

> > > > fact > > > > > > > > I reccomend this to everyone as I myself

benefitted > > greatly > > > > by > > > > > > > > reading evey message by PVR

and Sanjay ji right from > > > > inception.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

8th from AL is the second from the 7th from AL. The > > 7th > > > > from > > > >

> AL > > > > > > > > represents others(people). The second from the 7th i.e > >

the > > > > 8th > > > > > > > > represents the

resources of others. Thus the 2nd house > > is > > > > your > > > > > > > >

resource while the 2nd from 7th. i,e 8th represents > > others > > > > > > >

resources.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To give you an example, if you

try for a new > position > > > > while > > > > > > > > continuing in you

current job, you will most certainly > > be > > > > using > > > > > > > your >

> > > > > > > current employers time to interview, use the current > > > >

employers > > > > > PC > > > > > > > > for communicating with prospective

employers etc. This > > is > > > an > > > > > > >

example > > > > > > > > of how you will improve your status(AL) by employing > >

others > > > > > (8th > > > > > > > > house) resources.> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > The 7th from AL is the opposition to that house. Any > > > > planet >

> > > > > that > > > > > > > > is placed in it will lose its significance. A

good > > example > > > > is > > > > > the > > > > > > > > placement of Rahu.

Such people turn out to be very > > > spiritual > > > > as > > > > > > the > >

> > > > > > qualities of Rahu(base, tamasic, materialistic) are > lost.> > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sudharsan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Dear Nitin

Ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for your explanation.> > > >

> > > > > I have also read a little about the Arudha Lagna and > > > > various >

> > > > > > > Arudha > > > > > > > > > Padas and their significance.> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Why is

8th from AL considered as a resource? (2nd > from > > AL > > > > i > > > > > am

> > > > > > > > > thinking is the 'dhanasthana' for AL).Is it because > > 8th >

> > > > > > determines > > > > > > > > > the duration or life of the

manifestation.> > > > > > > > > Why is seventh a Badhak? As it is opposite to

the AL?> > In > > > > this > > > > > > case > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > >

> the Badhakatipathi is well placed and is a > > benefic,then > > > > the > > >

> > > ends > > > > > > > > > aimed by it should be for a good,though an

obstacle.> (I > > > > mean > > > > >

its > > > > > > > > > effect should be good).Also planets well placed in > > > >

> > Badhakasthana > > > > > > > > > will aspect AL and hence should bear good

results.Am > i > > > > > thinking > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the right

direction here?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again and regds> > >

> > > > > > Pradeep> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Nitin" > > > > > > > > <astronitin> > >

> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > |Namah Shivaaya|> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

You have asked a good question. I would consider > one > > > > taking > > > > >

a > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > wholistic picture and considering all

factors to > > paint > > > > an > > > > > > > > > integrated > > > > > > > > > >

picture of the chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It also depends on

what one is looking for? Are you > > > > > > considering > > > > > > > > > the >

> > > > > > > > > mind of the person (Chandra

lagna), the physical > > body > > > > > > (lagnesh) > > > > > > > > > Satya > >

> > > > > > > > Peeth (Lagna) or how things will manifest in the > > > >

material > > > > > > word > > > > > > > > > > (Arudha Lagna)? > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > For example, there are many principles given in > >

Jaimini > > > > > > Sutras > > > > > > > > > > regarding reading from the

Arudha Lagna (AL), > alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd / 6th

from the AL reveals the courage and > > rivalry > > > > about > > > > > a > > >

> > > >

> > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Trines to the AL will

give it direction, and a > > rise > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >

image > > > > > > > > > > wil occur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

The 2nd and 8th from the AL will be resources to > the > > > > image. > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The 7th will act like a baadhak (obstacle). > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, in a similar fashion, one could examine

the > > Hora, > > > > Ghati > > > > > > and > >

> > > > > > > Shri > > > > > > > > > > Lagna alone, but will miss on the entire

picture. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hoep that some of this helps.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes and warm regards, > > > > >

> > > > > Nitin.> > > > > > > > > > :>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > vedic-> > > > astrology,

"vijayadas_pradeep" > > > > > > > > > > <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote:> > > >

> > > > > > > Dear and respected members> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have read about the importance of special >

lagnas > > in > > > > > > > > analysing > > > > > > > > > > > charts.Apart from

sun and moon there are others > > like > > > > > > > > Ghati ,Hora > > > > > > >

> > > > representing power,wealth etc.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> But can we predict something based on just any > one > > of > > > > > these >

> > > > > > > > Lagnas?> > > > > > > > > > > Because of permutation combinations

we could > > always > > > > > deduct > > > > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > > > > yogas from some of these Lagnas.> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Shouldnt these lagnas be used only as an > > additional > > >

> > > > > > > > confirmation.That is if some strength is present > > from > > >

> > > > > > Rashi,Chandra > > > > > > > > > > > and Navamsha Varga, then we

could go down to > Ghati > > or > > > > > Hora > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > >

Sree > > > > > > > > > > > etc.Forgive me if i am not correct here.> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because if you get the chart of a popular

person > > you > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > manage > > > > > > > > > > to >

> > > > > > > > > > find some yogas from any of these lagnas and > > convince >

> > > > using > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > skills.But from an

unpopular(this is a vague > > term!) > > > > chart > > > > > > can > > > > > >

> > we > > > > > > > > > > > predict something based on these alone.> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > > > Pradeep> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor> > > > > > > >

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