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Dear Mr. Vishwanatham,

 

You are right, it is 0.40 early hours, in the AM. My mistake for

writing 12:40, that was confusing.

 

Janma Nakshatra is Swati, in 3rd Pada.

 

My health is very good now, although I sufferred from low BP 10 -11

years back.

 

I will try to obtain Pt Rath's book, thank you sir.

 

Venkat

 

vedic astrology, H S Viswanadham

<vishwanatham@r...> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna,

>

> Dear Sastry,

>

> How is your health? Robust or weak?

>

> Pt Rath wrote a book on Vimshottari & Udu dasas. If you can, pls

read it.

>

> i would have looked at your chart, but... you mentioned your time

of birth as 12.40 AM !?

>

> You meant 0.40 early hours (a.m) or 12.40 past noon (p.m).

>

> pls clarify.

>

> pls attach .jhd chart, if you can. Otherwise mention your Janma

Nakshatra with pada, if it is 0.40 early hours.

>

> regards

> viswanadham

>

> venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry> wrote:

> Dear Mr. Vishwanatham,

>

> I have Vargottama lagna. Although physical strength is not really

my

> strong point :), I do indeed have strong beliefs and faith that

> gives me a fighting spirit to overcome hurdles. Maybe that is why

my

> grandfather, who cast my Kundli, told my mother that there

> was "dasha", i.e. "potential" for me.

>

> Could you please explain Satabdika dasha? I've never heard of

this.

>

> My birth data is:

> 6 october 1967, 12:40 AM

> 78E28, 17N23

>

> Regards,

> Venkatrama

>

>

> vedic astrology, H S Viswanadham

> wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krishna

> >

> > Daer all,

> >

> > In case of a vargottama lagna, Satabdika dasa is applicable for

> the native. (From Vimshottari & Udu dasas by Pt Rath).

> >

> > The native will have strong ideals & beliefs and the Lagna

> functions like Mritunjaya Mantra & protects the native from all

> calamities. (from the same book).

> >

> > So the native is likely to be brave & physically strong, based

on

> the planets in trines to Lagna.

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> >

> > regards

> > viswanadham

> >

> > onlyhari wrote:

> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

> >

> > Dear Sai,

> >

> > If the lagna is vargottama, then the native is physically strong

> > (ie., capable of working long hours, capable of withstanding the

> > various troubles in their lives, with a never-say-die attitude

> etc).

> >

> > If you have a few cases like this, kindly let me know if my

> > observation fits or not...

> >

> > regards

> > Hari

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Saikumar"

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Guru Chandrashekar ji,

> > > What if the lagna itself is Vargottam(Rasi,Navamsa and some

> > divisional

> > > charts). What is the inference then. Do we look at Lagna

lord's

> > placement or

> > > how do we reckon the results of Vargottama then.

> > > Regards,

> > > Sai

> > >

> > > Chandrashekhar

> > > 2003/12/27 00:37:02

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Cc:

> > > Ji)

> > >

> > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > In a way you are right. A planet that is Vargottam also

> generally

> > gives

> > > good results next to Exalted planet. The nature of results

will

> > depend

> > > on the house he is posited in, his own house lordships and

other

> > > modifying factors as usual.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for your valuable input.I will try to dig more into

the

> > topic

> > > > for my understanding.Yes Navamsha is considered as the most

> > > > important division.Even vargottama is based on

Navamsha.Though

> > > > Gopuramsha,Simhasanamsha etc are there Vargottama is

> considered

> > as

> > > > best to confirm about the true manifestation of a planet in a

> > > > prticular rashi.Thus my understanding about Vargottama is,

it

> > does

> > > > not signify good or bad.It just reconfirms that the

concerned

> > > > planet will give complete results by virtue of its placement

> in a

> > > > particular Rashi.Kindly confirm.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Pradeep

> > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Pradeep,

> > > > > As you know planets are more powerful in certain degrees

in a

> > > > Rasi. Now

> > > > > the very relationship of the Lord of the Rasi would

indicate

> > where

> > > > each

> > > > > planet's degrees of power would lie.The degrees that a

> planet

> > is

> > > > in

> > > > > strength is not based merely on less number of degrees or

> more

> > > > number of

> > > > > degrees but is planet specific too. The Vargas divisions

are

> > > > probably

> > > > > based on that principle coupled with the nakshatra Charana

> > Lord or

> > > > > Nakhshatra lord and his relation to the Rasi lord,

according

> to

> > > > the

> > > > > Varga concerned. Navamsha Varga divisions are based on the

> > > > Nakshatra

> > > > > Charana Lord and as such is given much importance to the

> > extent

> > > > that in

> > > > > most of the shlokas when the sages say Amsha it generally

> > refers t

> > > > > Navamsha. Of course this is my personal opinion and logic

and

> > > > those more

> > > > > learned than me might hold different views on the subject.

> > > > > Hope this helps.

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions

within a

> > > > > > Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60

etc

> > > > starting

> > > > > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you

come

> > across

> > > > > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with

> astrology.I

> > have

> > > > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha

> > Raoji.It is

> > > > > > difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not

be

> > needed

> > > > as

> > > > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could

help

> us

> > > > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional

> charts.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks in advance

> > > > > > Pradeep

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

> > > >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Sathiyanarayana,

> > > > > > > Since you know the source where it is available, find

> out

> > if

> > > > > > Uttara

> > > > > > > Parasaryam is available. If so, it could also be a

> > commentary

> > > > on

> > > > > > Brihat

> > > > > > > Parashara Hora Shastra.

> > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear shri. Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thank you for your advices, now I understand that

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ' POORVA PARASARYAM ' is available at

> > > > > > > > SARASWATHY MAHAL at Thanjavour , Tamil Nadu

> > > > > > > > INDIA.

> > > > > > > > With regards,

> > > > > > > > D. Sathiyanarayana Gupta .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Sathiyanarayana,

> > > > > > > > Not having read the text, I can not comment on it.

> > > > However

> > > > > > as the

> > > > > > > > name

> > > > > > > > suggests it might be a compilation of various

> > shlokas,

> > > > > > supposed to be

> > > > > > > > written/recited prior to the days of Parashara.

> > There not

> > > > > > being any

> > > > > > > > Uttara Parasaryam, it obviously is not first Skanda

> > of

> > > > > > texts/shlokas

> > > > > > > > attributed to Parashara. Or at least this is what I

> > would

> > > > > > infer

> > > > > > > > from the

> > > > > > > > title of the text.

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Vishwanadham,

> > > > > > > > > Thank you. Various pravartakas elaborated upon

> > the

> > > > > > divine

> > > > > > > > science

> > > > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > is said to have descended from the Lord

> > Mahadeo.

> > > > They

> > > > > > did

> > > > > > > > not , in

> > > > > > > > > fact,

> > > > > > > > > give different systems. What each did was give

> > > > > > different

> > > > > > > > > perspectives,

> > > > > > > > > on the basis of the same basics.

> > > > > > > > > Unfortunately astrologers started giving one or

> > > > other

> > > > > > Rishi the

> > > > > > > > > credit

> > > > > > > > > as originator of Jyotish and started swearing

> > by

> > > > one

> > > > > > system or

> > > > > > > > > another.

> > > > > > > > > The fact that none of the Gurus or their direct

> > > > > > shishya lineage,

> > > > > > > > > who had

> > > > > > > > > the advantage of learning from their Guru, is

> > > > > > available to

> > > > > > > > explain

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > true meaning of shlokas has added to the

> > confusion.

> > > > > > One has

> > > > > > > > also to

> > > > > > > > > understand that many sages of same name wrote

> > > > different

> > > > > > > > Vedangas.

> > > > > > > > > This

> > > > > > > > > has led many to ascribe the authorship of the

> > > > text

> > > > > > favoured by

> > > > > > > > > one to

> > > > > > > > > the most ancient of them and thus claiming the

> > > > text to

> > > > > > be the

> > > > > > > > > origin of

> > > > > > > > > Jyotish. It is very well to equate Surya

> > mentioned

> > > > as

> > > > > > one of

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > pravartakas but the fact remains that it might

> > be

> > > > > > reference

> > > > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > writer of Surya Siddhanta and so on. Sages were

> > > > > > refered to

> > > > > > > > by their

> > > > > > > > > Gotra, place of residence and even their

> > colour,

> > > > > > different

> > > > > > > > names

> > > > > > > > > being

> > > > > > > > > used to describe the same person. This should

> > not

> > > > be

> > > > > > forgotten.

> > > > > > > > > Many a

> > > > > > > > > times titles were conferred upon them and

> > > > therefore,

> > > > > > that it is

> > > > > > > > > difficult to establish antiquity of the Sages

> > > > remains

> > > > > > a fact.

> > > > > > > > > There are also different versions of the same

> > > > texts in

> > > > > > > > > circulation. It

> > > > > > > > > might be fashionable to claim to be follower

> > of one

> > > > > > system or

> > > > > > > > > other, but

> > > > > > > > > the fact remains that Jyotish is based on sound

> > > > > > principles

> > > > > > > > and all

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > sages gave instructions in words that they

> > thought

> > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > students

> > > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > comprehend better. This is why you will find

> > the

> > > > texts

> > > > > > referring

> > > > > > > > > to the

> > > > > > > > > opinion of others with equal respect.

> > > > > > > > > As I said earlier one should follow the system

> > > > that he

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > understood

> > > > > > > > > the basics of, and can apply them to real life

> > > > > > horoscopes.

> > > > > > > > > Hope this helps.

> > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > > Dear pedagogues,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > kindly elucidate as to wheather 'POORVA

> > > > PARASARYAM' is

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > teachings of POOJYASHRI. sage PARASARA to his

> > > > > > disciples or

> > > > > > > > > otherwise .

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > May DEVA GURU'S blessings shall dawn on us.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > H S Viswanadham wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekhar Ji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Your longish mails are very informative. Pls

> > keep

> > > > > > writing

> > > > > > > > longish

> > > > > > > > > > ones. At the end of the last mail you were

> > > > saying it

> > > > > > > > became too

> > > > > > > > > long.

> > > > > > > > > > It was a good mail. Now your clarification is

> > > > still

> > > > > > better.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > i also feel that people using True nodes

> > & using

> > > > > > different

> > > > > > > > > ayanamsas

> > > > > > > > > > are sticking to their own basics ( if i may

> > say

> > > > so!).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > From what you said, can we speculate that the

> > > > other

> > > > > > Rishis

> > > > > > > > whose

> > > > > > > > > works

> > > > > > > > > > are lost were using different 'systems'.

> > What

> > > > could

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > the root of

> > > > > > > > > > all this?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Many thanks and best regards

> > > > > > > > > > viswanadham

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > */Anna /* wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar,

> > > > > > > > > > I have read carefully..

> > > > > > > > > > Thank you.

> > > > > > > > > > Anna

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anna,

> > > > > > > > > > I am sorry that you appear to be

> > shocked

> > > > > > with my

> > > > > > > > opinions. I

> > > > > > > > > > would like

> > > > > > > > > > you to read what I have said

> > carefully

> > > > > > again. You

> > > > > > > > will find

> > > > > > > > > > that I have

> > > > > > > > > > already clarified that one should

> > use the

> > > > > > system

> > > > > > > > that one is

> > > > > > > > > > comfortable

> > > > > > > > > > with, and have also said that

> > different

> > > > > > Rishis

> > > > > > > > devised

> > > > > > > > > different

> > > > > > > > > > systems. If you read the mail in its

> > > > > > entirety, you

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > > understand that

> > > > > > > > > > I am not saying anything

> > contradictory

> > > > to

> > > > > > what is

> > > > > > > > > taught,but

> > > > > > > > > > am trying

> > > > > > > > > > to indicate how the teachings are to

> > be

> > > > > > used. I merely

> > > > > > > > > say that

> > > > > > > > > > application of different system

> > without

> > > > > > > > understanding the

> > > > > > > > > > logic behind

> > > > > > > > > > them could lead one to a wrong

> > > > prediction.

> > > > > > An example

> > > > > > > > > would be

> > > > > > > > > > Prashna

> > > > > > > > > > Marga of deciding Aarudha based on

> > the

> > > > > > location of the

> > > > > > > > > querist

> > > > > > > > > > or his

> > > > > > > > > > placing a piece of Gold on a

> > particular

> > > > > > direction

> > > > > > > > on the

> > > > > > > > > > circular chart.

> > > > > > > > > > Now would you say Aarudha arrived at

> > by

> > > > this

> > > > > > > > method can

> > > > > > > > > use the

> > > > > > > > > > principles of Aarudha defined by

> > > > Parashara

> > > > > > and one

> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > arrive at

> > > > > > > > > > correct predictions? Or can Aarudha

> > > > arrived

> > > > > > at by

> > > > > > > > using

> > > > > > > > > Parashara

> > > > > > > > > > principles will give correct

> > predictions

> > > > > > when it

> > > > > > > > is used to

> > > > > > > > > > arrive at

> > > > > > > > > > conclusions based on the results

> > given in

> > > > > > Prashna

> > > > > > > > Marga?

> > > > > > > > > I am

> > > > > > > > > > certain

> > > > > > > > > > you will not. Similarly can Gulika

> > and

> > > > > > Mandi at

> > > > > > > > different

> > > > > > > > > > points of

> > > > > > > > > > reference be used when applying

> > Jaataka

> > > > > > Paarijata

> > > > > > > > > parameters,

> > > > > > > > > > when the

> > > > > > > > > > text states specifically that they

> > are

> > > > > > synonyms of

> > > > > > > > the same

> > > > > > > > > > upagraha?

> > > > > > > > > > The logic behind what I wrote will be

> > > > clear

> > > > > > to you.

> > > > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > > > > > Anna wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /*

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar,

> > > > > > > > > > > You raised serious issues here,

> > > > indeed. I

> > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > copied some

> > > > > > > > > > parts,

> > > > > > > > > > > although the entire post questions

> > in

> > > > fact

> > > > > > all we've

> > > > > > > > > learnt

> > > > > > > > > > here, so far.

> > > > > > > > > > > You said:*_You can not apply say

> > > > Metric

> > > > > > system to

> > > > > > > > > > manufacture a bolt

> > > > > > > > > > > and BSW for the nut , they would

> > never

> > > > fit

> > > > > > > > properly._*

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > You imply that wrt. rashi dristi,

> > > > aroodas,

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > we are

> > > > > > > > > > thought to use

> > > > > > > > > > > along with graha dristi etc..I feel

> > > > this is

> > > > > > > > rather serious

> > > > > > > > > > and wish if

> > > > > > > > > > > could see more comments on this-

> > this

> > > > is

> > > > > > in fact

> > > > > > > > the first

> > > > > > > > > > time I see

> > > > > > > > > > > on THIS list such a view;

> > implications

> > > > > > would be

> > > > > > > > > far-reaching

> > > > > > > > > > with lots

> > > > > > > > > > > of fundamental questions raised.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Thank You.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Best regards,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Anna

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > *There are many systems based on

> > the

> > > > > > experience

> > > > > > > > of the

> > > > > > > > > > Rishis, who

> > > > > > > > > > > formulated them...*

> > > > > > > > > > > **

> > > > > > > > > > > * one

> > > > > > > > > > > predicts on the basis of Planet

> > drishty

> > > > > > and when the

> > > > > > > > > > prediction goes

> > > > > > > > > > > wrong one takes recourse to

> > explaining

> > > > > > away the

> > > > > > > > reason of

> > > > > > > > > > the failure by

> > > > > > > > > > > application of Rasi drishty. Same

> > is

> > > > the

> > > > > > case

> > > > > > > > with use of

> > > > > > > > > > Aarudhas,

> > > > > > > > > > > Karakamsha, Divisional charts etc.

> > One

> > > > > > should have a

> > > > > > > > > uniform

> > > > > > > > > > approach to

> > > > > > > > > > > any chart one analyses. _You can

> > not

> > > > apply

> > > > > > say

> > > > > > > > Metric

> > > > > > > > > system to

> > > > > > > > > > > manufacture a bolt and BSW for the

> > > > nut ,

> > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > would never

> > > > > > > > > > fit properly._

> > > > > > > > > > > *

> > > > > > > > > > > **

> > > > > > > > > > > *Not much work has been done on

> > > > Aarudhas

> > > > > > and other

> > > > > > > > > > parameters even by the

> > > > > > > > > > > ancient sages and ...This does not

> > mean

> > > > > > that the

> > > > > > > > concept

> > > > > > > > > > carries no

> > > > > > > > > > > substance, only that

> > > > > > > > > > > exahaustive work has not been done

> > on

> > > > this

> > > > > > aspect.

> > > > > > > > > _Even the

> > > > > > > > > > major yogas

> > > > > > > > > > > are not based on these concept and

> > as

> > > > such

> > > > > > it is

> > > > > > > > difficult

> > > > > > > > > > to know the

> > > > > > > > > > > correct method of their

> > application._

> > > > It

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Dear Rama Narayanan,

 

Pt Rath did set the rule, when he said in case there are more than one dasas

which meet the criteria, we need to follow the order set by Parasara. Which he

presented in the book.

 

You are right, we can not time something, which is not there in the chart. Pt

Rath did weigh the options in certain examples.

 

Then, that is what we are trying to do, by seeing more charts.

 

Hope more people read the book, to discuss it further. Thanks for your comments.

 

i am Ok if you call me viswanadham! Will be happy to see more of your enlightening mails!

 

Kind regards

viswanadham

 

Wishing everyone a very happy and prosperous New Year.

 

rama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

 

Dear Viswanadhamji,

 

May i write a few lines in this regard? You had said that one need not go

further into the other dasas if the first of the conditional dasas is found

applicable. It is not so. One has to look up to all the 9 conditions and find

out that governor(of the dasa under consideration) who is in kendras to the

Atmakaraka(planet in kendra is considered more influential than the one in

panapharas and apoklimas) and apply that dasa. If two or three planets are

found in kendras then the choice/selection has to be as per the order listed

out by the great sage.

 

Best wishes.

 

Astrologically yours,

 

p.s.ramanarayanan.H S Viswanadham <vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Venkat,

 

Pt rath in his book described 9 conditional dasas and the conditions have a

heirarchy. If we meet the conditions in the first dasa, then we do not look any

further.

 

Conditional dasas are useful to identify the focus area of the native in his/her

life and to time events.

 

In your case we thought Satabdika dasa was applicable, because of Vargottama Lagna.

 

On a closer look, in your case the first one i.e. Ashtottari dasa is applicable.

 

Rahu is in kendra to your lagna lord and your's is a night birth in Sukla

paksha. Therefore, the above dasa is applicable.

 

Now the focus area is export of goods, services & religion.(something indigenous

to a foreign country)

 

Tell me which one of this fits you? Which field are you working in?

 

It could be that you did your masters/ doctorate in a foreign country and settled there.

 

Honestly, i do not know much about this dasa. Working on your chart we can learn more about it.

 

regards

viswanadham

 

 

 

venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry > wrote:

Dear Mr. Vishwanatham,You are right, it is 0.40 early hours, in the AM. My

mistake for writing 12:40, that was confusing. Janma Nakshatra is Swati, in 3rd

Pada. My health is very good now, although I sufferred from low BP 10 -11 years

back. I will try to obtain Pt Rath's book, thank you sir. Venkat--- In

vedic astrology, H S Viswanadham wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna,> >

Dear Sastry,> > How is your health? Robust or weak?> > Pt Rath wrote a book on

Vimshottari & Udu dasas. If you can, pls read it.> > i would have looked at

your chart, but... you mentioned your time of birth as 12.40 AM !?> > You meant

0.40 early hours (a.m) or 12.40 past noon (p.m). > > pls clarify.> > pls attach

..jhd chart, if you can. Otherwise mention your Janma Nakshatra with pada, if it

is 0.40 early hours.> > regards> viswanadham> > venkatarama_sastry wrote:> Dear

Mr. Vishwanatham,> > I have Vargottama lagna. Although physical strength is not

really my > strong point :), I do indeed have strong beliefs and faith that >

gives me a fighting spirit to overcome hurdles. Maybe that is why my >

grandfather, who cast my Kundli, told my mother that there > was "dasha", i.e.

"potential" for me. > > Could you please explain Satabdika dasha? I've never

heard of this. > > My birth data is: > 6 october 1967, 12:40 AM> 78E28, 17N23>

> Regards,> Venkatrama> > > vedic astrology, H S

Viswanadham > wrote:> > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > Daer

all,> > > > In case of a vargottama lagna, Satabdika dasa is applicable for >

the native. (From Vimshottari & Udu dasas by Pt Rath). > > > > The native will

have strong ideals & beliefs and the Lagna > functions like Mritunjaya Mantra &

protects the native from all > calamities. (from the same book).> > > > So the

native is likely to be brave & physically strong, based on > the planets in

trines to Lagna.> > > > Hope this helps.> > > > regards> > viswanadham > > > >

onlyhari wrote:> > ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||> > > > Dear Sai,> > > > If the

lagna is vargottama, then the native is physically strong > > (ie., capable of

working long hours, capable of withstanding the > > various troubles in their

lives, with a never-say-die attitude >

etc).> > > > If you have a few cases like this, kindly let me know if my > >

observation fits or not...> > > > regards> > Hari> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Saikumar" > > wrote:> > > > > > Dear Guru

Chandrashekar ji, > > > What if the lagna itself is Vargottam(Rasi,Navamsa and

some > > divisional> > > charts). What is the inference then. Do we look at

Lagna lord's > > placement or> > > how do we reckon the results of Vargottama

then. > > > Regards, > > > Sai> > > > > >

Chandrashekhar > > > 2003/12/27 00:37:02> > > To:

vedic astrology> > > Cc: > > > Ji)> > > > > > Dear

Pradeep,> > > In a

way you are right. A planet that is Vargottam also > generally > > gives > > >

good results next to Exalted planet. The nature of results will > > depend > >

> on the house he is posited in, his own house lordships and other > > >

modifying factors as usual.> > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep

wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji> > > >> > > > Thanks for your

valuable input.I will try to dig more into the > > topic> > > > for my

understanding.Yes Navamsha is considered as the most> > > > important

division.Even vargottama is based on Navamsha.Though> > > >

Gopuramsha,Simhasanamsha etc are there Vargottama is > considered > > as> > > >

best to confirm about the true manifestation of a planet in

a> > > > prticular rashi.Thus my understanding about Vargottama is, it > > does>

> > > not signify good or bad.It just reconfirms that the concerned > > > >

planet will give complete results by virtue of its placement > in a> > > >

particular Rashi.Kindly confirm.> > > >> > > > Thanks> > > > Pradeep> > > > ---

In vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > > > > wrote:> > > > >

Dear Pradeep,> > > > > As you know planets are more powerful in certain degrees

in a> > > > Rasi. Now> > > > > the very relationship of the Lord of the Rasi

would indicate > > where> > > > each> > > > > planet's degrees of power would

lie.The degrees that a > planet > > is>

> > > in> > > > > strength is not based merely on less number of degrees or >

more> > > > number of> > > > > degrees but is planet specific too. The Vargas

divisions are> > > > probably> > > > > based on that principle coupled with the

nakshatra Charana > > Lord or> > > > > Nakhshatra lord and his relation to the

Rasi lord, according > to> > > > the> > > > > Varga concerned. Navamsha Varga

divisions are based on the> > > > Nakshatra> > > > > Charana Lord and as such

is given much importance to the > > extent> > > > that in> > > > > most of the

shlokas when the sages say Amsha it generally > > refers t> > > > > Navamsha.

Of course this is my personal opinion and logic and> > >

> those more> > > > > learned than me might hold different views on the

subject.> > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > >> > > > >

vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji> > > > > >>

> > > > > I was bit curious about the logic behind divisions within a> > > > > >

Rashi.Each rashi can be divided further into 9,10,24,60 etc> > > > starting> > >

> > > from aries until pisces and then aries again.Have you come > > across> > >

> > > any reasons for this during ur experiments with > astrology.I > > have> >

> > > > asked a qstn cpl of days back addressed to Narasimha > > Raoji.It is> >

> > >

> difficult to find logic behind every usage and may not be > > needed> > > >

as> > > > > > well.Still just out of curiousity.Becuase this could help > us> >

> > > > understand the validity of aspects within divisional > charts.> > > > >

>> > > > > > Thanks in advance> > > > > > Pradeep> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar> > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > >

> > > > Dear Sathiyanarayana,> > > > > > > Since you know the source where it

is available, find > out > > if> > > > > > Uttara> > > > > > > Parasaryam is

available. If so, it could also be a > > commentary> > > >

on> > > > > > Brihat> > > > > > > Parashara Hora Shastra.> > > > > > >

Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote:> > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Dear shri. Chandrashekhar,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

Thank you for your advices, now I understand that> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

' POORVA PARASARYAM ' is available at> > > > > > > > SARASWATHY MAHAL at

Thanjavour , Tamil Nadu> > > > > > > > INDIA.> > > > > > > > With regards,> > >

> > > > > D. Sathiyanarayana Gupta .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear

Sathiyanarayana,> > > > > > > > Not having read the text, I can not comment on

it.> > > > However> > > > > > as the> > > > > > > > name> > > > > > > >

suggests it might be a compilation of various > > shlokas,> > > > > > supposed

to be> > > > > > > > written/recited prior to the days of Parashara. > > There

not> > > > > > being any> > > > > > > > Uttara Parasaryam, it obviously is not

first Skanda > > of> > > > > > texts/shlokas> > > > > > > > attributed to

Parashara. Or at least this is what I > > would> > > > >

> infer> > > > > > > > from the> > > > > > > > title of the text.> > > > > > > >

Regards,> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > >

> > Sathiyanarayana Gupta wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

Dear Vishwanadham,> > > > > > > > > Thank you. Various pravartakas elaborated

upon > > the> > > > > > divine> > > > > > > > science> > > > > > > > > which> >

> > > > > > > is said to have descended from the Lord > > Mahadeo.> > > > They>

> > > > > did> > > > > > > > not , in> > > > > > > > > fact,> > > > > > > > >

give different systems. What each did was give> > > > > > different> > > > > >

> > > perspectives,> > > > > > > > > on the basis of the same basics.> > > > >

> > > > Unfortunately astrologers started giving one or> > > > other> > > > > >

Rishi the> > > > > > > > > credit> > > > > > > > > as originator of Jyotish and

started swearing > > by> > > > one> > > > > > system or> > > > > > > >

> another.> > > > > > > > > The fact that none of the Gurus or their direct> > >

> > > shishya lineage,> > > > > > > > > who had> > > > > > > > > the advantage

of learning from their Guru, is> > > > > > available to> > > > > > > > explain>

> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > true meaning of shlokas has added to the >

> confusion.> > > > > > One has> > > > > > > > also to> > > > > > > > >

understand that many sages of same name wrote> > > > different> > > > > > > >

Vedangas.> > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > has led many to ascribe the

authorship of

the> > > > text> > > > > > favoured by> > > > > > > > > one to> > > > > > > > >

the most ancient of them and thus claiming the> > > > text to> > > > > > be

the> > > > > > > > > origin of> > > > > > > > > Jyotish. It is very well to

equate Surya > > mentioned> > > > as> > > > > > one of> > > > > > > > the> > >

> > > > > > pravartakas but the fact remains that it might > > be> > > > > >

reference> > > > > > > > to the> > > > > > > > > writer of Surya Siddhanta and

so on. Sages were> > > > > > refered to> > > > > > > > by their> > >

> > > > > > Gotra, place of residence and even their > > colour,> > > > > >

different> > > > > > > > names> > > > > > > > > being> > > > > > > > > used to

describe the same person. This should > > not> > > > be> > > > > > forgotten.>

> > > > > > > > Many a> > > > > > > > > times titles were conferred upon them

and> > > > therefore,> > > > > > that it is> > > > > > > > > difficult to

establish antiquity of the Sages> > > > remains> > > > > > a fact.> > > > > > >

> > There are also different versions of the same> > > > texts in> > > > > > > >

> circulation.

It> > > > > > > > > might be fashionable to claim to be follower > > of one> > >

> > > system or> > > > > > > > > other, but> > > > > > > > > the fact remains

that Jyotish is based on sound> > > > > > principles> > > > > > > > and all> >

> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > sages gave instructions in words that they >

> thought> > > > > > their> > > > > > > > students> > > > > > > > > will> > > >

> > > > > comprehend better. This is why you will find > > the> > > > texts> >

> > > > referring> > > > > > > > > to the> > > > > > >

> > opinion of others with equal respect.> > > > > > > > > As I said earlier one

should follow the system> > > > that he> > > > > > has> > > > > > > >

understood> > > > > > > > > the basics of, and can apply them to real life> > >

> > > horoscopes.> > > > > > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > > > > > >

Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > > > Dear pedagogues,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

> > kindly elucidate as to wheather 'POORVA> > > > PARASARYAM' is> > > > > >

the> > > > > > > > > teachings of POOJYASHRI. sage PARASARA to his> > > > > >

disciples or> > > > > > > > >

otherwise .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > May DEVA GURU'S blessings shall

dawn on us.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta.> > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > H S Viswanadham wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrasekhar

Ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Your longish mails are very

informative. Pls > > keep> > > > > > writing> > > > > > > > longish> > > > > >

> > > > ones. At the end of the last mail you

were> > > > saying it> > > > > > > > became too> > > > > > > > > long.> > > > >

> > > > > It was a good mail. Now your clarification is> > > > still> > > > > >

better.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > i also feel that people using True

nodes > > & using> > > > > > different> > > > > > > > > ayanamsas> > > > > > > >

> > are sticking to their own basics ( if i may > > say> > > > so!).> > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > From what you said, can we speculate that the> > > >

other> > > > > > Rishis> > > > > > > >

whose> > > > > > > > > works> > > > > > > > > > are lost were using different

'systems'. > > What> > > > could> > > > > > be> > > > > > > > the root of> > >

> > > > > > > all this?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Many thanks and

best regards> > > > > > > > > > viswanadham> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> */Anna /* wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar,> >

> > > > > > > > I have read carefully..> > > > > > > > > > Thank you.> > > > >

> > > >

> Anna> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Anna,> > > > > > > > > > I am sorry that you

appear to be > > shocked> > > > > > with my> > > > > > > > opinions. I> > > > >

> > > > > would like> > > > > > > > > > you to read what I have said > >

carefully> > > > > > again. You> > > > > > > > will find> > > > > > > > > >

that I have> > > > > > > > > > already clarified that one should > > use the> >

> > > > system> > > > > > > > that one

is> > > > > > > > > > comfortable> > > > > > > > > > with, and have also said

that > > different> > > > > > Rishis> > > > > > > > devised> > > > > > > > >

different> > > > > > > > > > systems. If you read the mail in its> > > > > >

entirety, you> > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > understand that> > > > > >

> > > > I am not saying anything > > contradictory> > > > to> > > > > > what is>

> > > > > > > > taught,but> > > > > > > > > > am trying> > > > > > > > > > to

indicate how the teachings are to > > be> > >

> > > used. I merely> > > > > > > > > say that> > > > > > > > > > application of

different system > > without> > > > > > > > understanding the> > > > > > > > > >

logic behind> > > > > > > > > > them could lead one to a wrong> > > >

prediction.> > > > > > An example> > > > > > > > > would be> > > > > > > > > >

Prashna> > > > > > > > > > Marga of deciding Aarudha based on > > the> > > > >

> location of the> > > > > > > > > querist> > > > > > > > > > or his> > > > > >

> > > > placing a piece of Gold on a > > particular> > >

> > > direction> > > > > > > > on the> > > > > > > > > > circular chart.> > > >

> > > > > > Now would you say Aarudha arrived at > > by> > > > this> > > > > >

> > method can> > > > > > > > > use the> > > > > > > > > > principles of

Aarudha defined by> > > > Parashara> > > > > > and one> > > > > > > > will> > >

> > > > > > arrive at> > > > > > > > > > correct predictions? Or can Aarudha> >

> > arrived> > > > > > at by> > > > > > > > using> > > > > > > > > Parashara> >

> > > > > > > > principles will give

correct > > predictions> > > > > > when it> > > > > > > > is used to> > > > > >

> > > > arrive at> > > > > > > > > > conclusions based on the results > > given

in> > > > > > Prashna> > > > > > > > Marga?> > > > > > > > > I am> > > > > > > >

> > certain> > > > > > > > > > you will not. Similarly can Gulika > > and> > > >

> > Mandi at> > > > > > > > different> > > > > > > > > > points of> > > > > > >

> > > reference be used when applying > > Jaataka> > > > > > Paarijata> > > > >

> > > > parameters,> > >

> > > > > > > when the> > > > > > > > > > text states specifically that they > >

are> > > > > > synonyms of> > > > > > > > the same> > > > > > > > > > upagraha?>

> > > > > > > > > The logic behind what I wrote will be> > > > clear> > > > > >

to you.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar.> > > > >

> > > > > Anna wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > */Chandrashekhar /* > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar,> > > > > > > > > > > You raised

serious issues here,> > > > indeed. I> > > > > > just> > > > > > > > copied

some> > > > > > > > > > parts,> > > > > > > > > > > although the entire post

questions > > in> > > > fact> > > > > > all we've> > > > > > > > > learnt> > >

> > > > > > > here, so far.> > > > > > > > > > > You said:*_You can not apply

say > > > > Metric> > > > > > system to> > > > > > > > > > manufacture a bolt>

> > > > > > > > > > and BSW for the nut , they would

> > never> > > > fit> > > > > > > > properly._*> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > > You imply that wrt. rashi dristi,> > > > aroodas,> > > > > > that> >

> > > > > > we are> > > > > > > > > > thought to use> > > > > > > > > > > along

with graha dristi etc..I feel> > > > this is> > > > > > > > rather serious> > >

> > > > > > > and wish if> > > > > > > > > > > could see more comments on this-

> > this> > > > is> > > > > > in fact> > > > > > > > the first> > > > > > > > >

> time I see> >

> > > > > > > > > on THIS list such a view; > > implications> > > > > > would

be> > > > > > > > > far-reaching> > > > > > > > > > with lots> > > > > > > > >

> > of fundamental questions raised.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >

Thank You.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Best regards,> > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Anna> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > >

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > *There

are many systems based on > > the> > > > > > experience> > > > > > > > of the>

> > > > > > > > > Rishis, who> > > > > > > > > > > formulated them...*> > > > >

> > > > > > **> > > > > > > > > > > * one> > > > > > > > > > > predicts on the

basis of Planet > > drishty> > > > > > and when the> > > > > > > > > >

prediction goes> > > > > > > > > > > wrong one takes recourse to > >

explaining> > > > > > away

the> > > > > > > > reason of> > > > > > > > > > the failure by> > > > > > > > >

> > application of Rasi drishty. Same > > is> > > > the> > > > > > case> > > >

> > > > with use of> > > > > > > > > > Aarudhas,> > > > > > > > > > >

Karakamsha, Divisional charts etc. > > One> > > > > > should have a> > > > > >

> > > uniform> > > > > > > > > > approach to> > > > > > > > > > > any chart one

analyses. _You can > > not> > > > apply> > > > > > say> > > > > > > > Metric> >

> > > > > > > system to> > >

> > > > > > > > manufacture a bolt and BSW for the> > > > nut ,> > > > > > they>

> > > > > > > would never> > > > > > > > > > fit properly._> > > > > > > > > > >

*> > > > > > > > > > > **> > > > > > > > > > > *Not much work has been done on>

> > > Aarudhas> > > > > > and other> > > > > > > > > > parameters even by the>

> > > > > > > > > > ancient sages and ...This does not > > mean> > > > > > that

the> > > > > > > > concept> > > > > > > > > > carries no> > > > > > > > > > >

substance, only that> > > >

> > > > > > > exahaustive work has not been done > > on> > > > this> > > > > >

aspect.> > > > > > > > > _Even the> > > > > > > > > > major yogas> > > > > > >

> > > > are not based on these concept and > > as> > > > such> > > > > > it is>

> > > > > > > difficult> > > > > > > > > > to know the> > > > > > > > > > >

correct method of their > > application._> > > > It> > > > > > is very> > > > >

> > > well> > > > > > > > > to wax> > > > > > > > > > eloquent on> > > > > > > >

> > > their applicability

and the > > principles> > > > > > behind such> > > > > > > > > practice,> > > >

> > > > > > it is> > > > > > > > > > > another matter giving Authentic > >

quotes> > > > from> > > > > > > > standard texts> > > > > > > > > > to support>

> > > > > > > > > > the premise.> > > > > > > > > > > *> > > > > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

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