Adhana Lagna Quiz Answer & analysis-----> Dhira Ji

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Dear Dhira Krishna,

 

My comments and questions below:

 

> 2) Moon: in 8th dwadasamsa, so has covered 7 dwadasamsas fully. We

add 7

> signs to Moon's position in Rasi chart, and come to Pisces. Now

the Moon

> can be in trines to this sign, or it's 7th if stronger.

Interesting, 7th

> is stronger but Moon was in Scorpio. Perhaps Venus who is on the

edge

> close to Pisces should be in Pisces? A question of ayanamsa?

 

Interesting; what is the difference between saying '...has covered 7

dwadasamsas fully..' and '...has gained 8 dwadasamsas...'? As per my

understanding of this principle, we should count the rasis from the

dwadasamsa position of Moon. So counting 8 signs from Ar, we get

Scorpio. If Venus is to be in Pi, what happens to the parivartana

between Ra and Ve? Or in other words, how much of an effect this has

on guaranteeing the success of conception? Can you explain what is

the relevance of divisional charts to the conception chart (here we

consider only D-9 and D-12 although Raghunada used D-10)? Why did

not the dictum of natal Moon in kendras to conception Moon hold here?

 

>

> 3) Day or night birth: diurnal sign in lagna, stronger than 7th

from it.

> If we reverse, it comes to night birth. However, the BPHS has a

life

> example where Capricorn is adhana lagna, and birth happened at

night. So

> that can not be the rule. Even since 7th is stronger in that

example, then

> it still would be a nocturnal sign. So I believe we have to see it

from

> Navamsa lagna. The BPHS case has Navamsa lagna in Aries, thus

night birth

> (we don't reverse). Another case I have confirms it as well. Here

Navamsa

> lagna in Virgo should give a day birth, like I had predicted to the

> couple, yet it was in the night. Perhaps Ketu in lagna has

reversed it? Or

> it was another Navamsa lagna and we have the wrong time. Still the

birth

> was a caesarean - any other indications for this? Ketu is in Rasi

lagna as

> well.

>

 

You make an interesting case for using navamsa lagna to check the

indication of adhana lagna but still I think the dictum can be

applied fairly confidently.

 

 

> 4) to come to the exact date of birth, I had taken the help of the

> mother's chart (I should have given that chart also...) to see the

tithi

> of birth. I mistook it as trayodashi, so predicted morning of Dec

21st,

> but it became chaturdashi (10th lord from first pregnancy in her

Saptamsa

> was in Libra, lorded by Venus, so tithi ruled by Venus). Now when

we look

> into the adhana chakra, we see Saturn aspects on Moon, and Venus

would if

> it was in Pisces. Birth happened with Moon in the nakshatra of

Saturn in

> tithi of Venus. It wasn't the same dwadasamsa as in aadhana

chakra - a

> rule which is probably not correct also.

> Certainly this chart brought to me some reflections regarding

ayanamsa,

> but that's an area of research still.

 

I guessed that you should have had access to the parents charts to

predict the date. Still, the base was the adhana chart and I hope

Sanjay ji can give some clues on how to estimate the tithi & lunar

month from the chart. Did you use the method of timing the days from

the solar ingress into each rasi? (discussed on Varahamihira list).

Lastly suppose you were to use an ayanamsa that places Ve in Pi,

would the Mo still be in Sc?

 

>

> 5) sex of the child: as already was guessed by Hari

(congratulations!) the

> birth was of a twins girls. 3rd in 8th promoting twins, very good,

and the

> sex is seen from 7th, or the 5th from it, the 11th house, which

has Moon

> in dual and even sign. Yes, we see the sex in the order of the

strongest

> planet occupying these houses. Strenght goes by the order of

natural

> strength, Sun-Moon-Mars etc till Ketu.

>

> 6) timing by Istakaala: BPHS and Sanjay Rath's Jaimini Upadesa

Sutras

> mention taking the lagna degrees and converting them in the time

duration

> of night or day as the case may be where 30 degrees is full day or

night's

> length. 9°11'42" should be the lagna degree if it is full Rasi.

> However, just like day or night birth will be determined from

Navamsa

> lagna, Brhat Jataka mentions taking the Navamsa lagna degree, or

the

> portion of Navamsa covered by lagna. Then it should be 1°02'17" of

the

> 3°20 of Navamsa. I don't know the sloka number, but it's at the

end of the

> 4th Chapter On Conception etc.

>

 

Yep, this is an area which I need to study.

 

> So this was my analysis. Shall we do another one? This example is

more

> recent. Question is: pregnancy or not? The chart is attached.

>

 

Of course! Resend the birth details (privately) as I cant access the

jhd file.

 

regards

Hari

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Dear Dhira Krishna,

 

Forgot to add my comments on this point:-

 

 

> 5) sex of the child: as already was guessed by Hari

(congratulations!) the

> birth was of a twins girls. 3rd in 8th promoting twins, very good,

and the

> sex is seen from 7th, or the 5th from it, the 11th house, which

has Moon

> in dual and even sign. Yes, we see the sex in the order of the

strongest

> planet occupying these houses. Strenght goes by the order of

natural

> strength, Sun-Moon-Mars etc till Ketu.

 

I read somewhere (unable to cite source) that Moon in an even or odd

sign at the time of conception decides the sex of the baby. How

valid is this as a general dictum? I remember (from the same

article which I read) that a scientific study was done in Romania to

correlate the position of Moon at the time of conception to the

eventual sex of the baby and a > 90% correspondence was found.

 

regards

Hari

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Dear Hari,

 

Hare Rama Krsna!

 

>I read somewhere (unable to cite source) that Moon in an even or odd

>sign at the time of conception decides the sex of the baby. How

>valid is this as a general dictum?

 

I also have read this in an article on Ayurveda. But if that's true, then

certain days will only conceive boys and others only girls. What about the

planets in 7th and 11th then? But it may be true...

 

>I remember (from the same article which I read) that a scientific study

>was done in Romania to correlate the position of Moon at the time of

>conception to the eventual sex of the baby and a > 90% correspondence was

>found.

 

Interesting. I also know that if Pumsavana yajna is done to make sure a

healthy son is born, Moon should be in a male sign.

 

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

Jyotishi

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