Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Hare Rama Krsna! >i did not believe in the flash to retain the same distance between Adhana >lagna and Adhana Sun in the birth chart also. Dear Narasimha, Hari, Ramanarayan, Raghunadha and others, Where would you find such a rule? I haven't heard of this one yet, though some state that it should be the same longitude between lagna and Moon as in adhana chart. Perhaps, but only approximately then. >i extended the principle of fixing the nocturnal sign if the adhana lagna >was in dirunal sign to fixing daytime as the birth period to night time >copulation. My experience is that all this doesn't work. So let me give my analysis now: 1) Sodhya rasi of Sun: deducting 6th house longitude (stronger than 12th) from Hora Lagna, we get Leo, so Sun in fiery signs, it was in Sagittarius. 2) Moon: in 8th dwadasamsa, so has covered 7 dwadasamsas fully. We add 7 signs to Moon's position in Rasi chart, and come to Pisces. Now the Moon can be in trines to this sign, or it's 7th if stronger. Interesting, 7th is stronger but Moon was in Scorpio. Perhaps Venus who is on the edge close to Pisces should be in Pisces? A question of ayanamsa? 3) Day or night birth: diurnal sign in lagna, stronger than 7th from it. If we reverse, it comes to night birth. However, the BPHS has a life example where Capricorn is adhana lagna, and birth happened at night. So that can not be the rule. Even since 7th is stronger in that example, then it still would be a nocturnal sign. So I believe we have to see it from Navamsa lagna. The BPHS case has Navamsa lagna in Aries, thus night birth (we don't reverse). Another case I have confirms it as well. Here Navamsa lagna in Virgo should give a day birth, like I had predicted to the couple, yet it was in the night. Perhaps Ketu in lagna has reversed it? Or it was another Navamsa lagna and we have the wrong time. Still the birth was a caesarean - any other indications for this? Ketu is in Rasi lagna as well. 4) to come to the exact date of birth, I had taken the help of the mother's chart (I should have given that chart also...) to see the tithi of birth. I mistook it as trayodashi, so predicted morning of Dec 21st, but it became chaturdashi (10th lord from first pregnancy in her Saptamsa was in Libra, lorded by Venus, so tithi ruled by Venus). Now when we look into the adhana chakra, we see Saturn aspects on Moon, and Venus would if it was in Pisces. Birth happened with Moon in the nakshatra of Saturn in tithi of Venus. It wasn't the same dwadasamsa as in aadhana chakra - a rule which is probably not correct also. Certainly this chart brought to me some reflections regarding ayanamsa, but that's an area of research still. 5) sex of the child: as already was guessed by Hari (congratulations!) the birth was of a twins girls. 3rd in 8th promoting twins, very good, and the sex is seen from 7th, or the 5th from it, the 11th house, which has Moon in dual and even sign. Yes, we see the sex in the order of the strongest planet occupying these houses. Strenght goes by the order of natural strength, Sun-Moon-Mars etc till Ketu. 6) timing by Istakaala: BPHS and Sanjay Rath's Jaimini Upadesa Sutras mention taking the lagna degrees and converting them in the time duration of night or day as the case may be where 30 degrees is full day or night's length. 9°11'42" should be the lagna degree if it is full Rasi. However, just like day or night birth will be determined from Navamsa lagna, Brhat Jataka mentions taking the Navamsa lagna degree, or the portion of Navamsa covered by lagna. Then it should be 1°02'17" of the 3°20 of Navamsa. I don't know the sloka number, but it's at the end of the 4th Chapter On Conception etc. So this was my analysis. Shall we do another one? This example is more recent. Question is: pregnancy or not? The chart is attached. Yours, Dhira Krsna dasa, Jyotishi http://www.radhadesh.com Attachment: (APPLICATION/octet-stream) Garbhadhana.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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