Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Dear Venkat, A short comment: You wrote "According to Hinduism our worst enemies are the ones within us..." Why only Hinduism ? The six "negative qualities" mentioned are all human inheritance to some degree, regardless of religion, colour or 'race'. I'll stop here... Regards /Jay Weiss http://www.alvicomm.com http://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm - "venkatarama_sastry" <venkatarama_sastry <vedic astrology> Monday, February 02, 2004 5:50 PM [vedic astrology] The six enemies within > Dear Friends, > > According to Hinduism, our worst enemies are the ones within us, and > the true victory is to defeat these. The six that are listed are > Kama (lust or Desires), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha > (ignorance or foolishness), Mada (pride), Matscharya (Jealousy or > Envy). Each of these not only causes sorrow, but they also lead to > the others. We see this in our daily life. If we desire something, > and do not get it, (Kama) we are either angry (Krodha), or envious > of those that do have it. If we do fulfil our desires, we then get > greedy for more, or take foolish pride in our possessions. > > These six are also related to the 6 lower chakras, in that order, > and controlling each of them gets us one step closer to the > Sahasrara, the eternal abode of Sadaashiva. > > One way to control these evils is to meditate upon the Grahas that > are responsible for causing these, as well as responsible for giving > us the strength to overcome these. > Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms (Lakshmi, Uma > etc.) > Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda > Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru > Moha - Budha - Vishnu > Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc) > Matsarya - Shani - Shiva > > The idea is that the Grahas represent the "antidote" to the poison > spewed by the evils, for example, Moha is ignorance and Budha stands > for intelligence that lets us transcend the ignorance. > > The two that I don't understand are for Mada and Mascharya. Could > any learned member of the group clarify that these are indeed the > correct Grahas to pray for Mukti from these two evils? > > Thank you, > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Your > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Dear Jay, Very true, this is human nature regardless of religion. I din't mean to single out Hinduism - since that is the religion I am most familiar with, I based my commentary on Hinduism, but the need to conquer the negative qualities within us is common to all. Thanks for pointing this out! Venkat vedic astrology, "J.Weiss" <jayhw@t...> wrote: > Dear Venkat, > > A short comment: > You wrote "According to Hinduism our worst enemies are the ones within > us..." > Why only Hinduism ? > The six "negative qualities" mentioned are all human inheritance to some > degree, regardless of religion, colour or 'race'. > I'll stop here... > > Regards > /Jay Weiss > http://www.alvicomm.com > http://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm > > > - > "venkatarama_sastry" <venkatarama_sastry> > <vedic astrology> > Monday, February 02, 2004 5:50 PM > [vedic astrology] The six enemies within > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > According to Hinduism, our worst enemies are the ones within us, and > > the true victory is to defeat these. The six that are listed are > > Kama (lust or Desires), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha > > (ignorance or foolishness), Mada (pride), Matscharya (Jealousy or > > Envy). Each of these not only causes sorrow, but they also lead to > > the others. We see this in our daily life. If we desire something, > > and do not get it, (Kama) we are either angry (Krodha), or envious > > of those that do have it. If we do fulfil our desires, we then get > > greedy for more, or take foolish pride in our possessions. > > > > These six are also related to the 6 lower chakras, in that order, > > and controlling each of them gets us one step closer to the > > Sahasrara, the eternal abode of Sadaashiva. > > > > One way to control these evils is to meditate upon the Grahas that > > are responsible for causing these, as well as responsible for giving > > us the strength to overcome these. > > Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms (Lakshmi, Uma > > etc.) > > Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda > > Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru > > Moha - Budha - Vishnu > > Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc) > > Matsarya - Shani - Shiva > > > > The idea is that the Grahas represent the "antidote" to the poison > > spewed by the evils, for example, Moha is ignorance and Budha stands > > for intelligence that lets us transcend the ignorance. > > > > The two that I don't understand are for Mada and Mascharya. Could > > any learned member of the group clarify that these are indeed the > > correct Grahas to pray for Mukti from these two evils? > > > > Thank you, > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > vedic astrology/ > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Your > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Just want to share what I've learnt from Sanjay Rath-ji. > > Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms (Lakshmi, Uma> > etc.)> > Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda> > Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru> > Moha - Budha - Vishnu > > Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc)> > Matsarya - Shani - Shiva If i remember correctly, matsarya (envy) is represented by mercury, mada (or excessive pride) is represented by the sun, lobha (or greed) by sani or saturn and moha (or attachment) by the moon. Hopefully some of you can set this straight. Thanks, - Jai venkatarama_sastry <venkatarama_sastry > wrote: Dear Jay, Very true, this is human nature regardless of religion. I din't mean to single out Hinduism - since that is the religion I am most familiar with, I based my commentary on Hinduism, but the need to conquer the negative qualities within us is common to all.Thanks for pointing this out! Venkat--- In vedic astrology, "J.Weiss" wrote:> Dear Venkat,> > A short comment:> You wrote "According to Hinduism our worst enemies are the ones within> us..."> Why only Hinduism ?> The six "negative qualities" mentioned are all human inheritance to some> degree, regardless of religion, colour or 'race'.> I'll stop here...> > Regards> /Jay Weiss> http://www.alvicomm.com> http://www.alvicomm.com/privat.htm> > > - > "venkatarama_sastry" > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 5:50 PM> [vedic astrology] The six enemies within> > > > Dear Friends,> >> > According to Hinduism, our worst enemies are the ones within us, and> > the true victory is to defeat these. The six that are listed are> > Kama (lust or Desires), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha> > (ignorance or foolishness), Mada (pride), Matscharya (Jealousy or> > Envy). Each of these not only causes sorrow, but they also lead to> > the others. We see this in our daily life. If we desire something,> > and do not get it, (Kama) we are either angry (Krodha), or envious> > of those that do have it. If we do fulfil our desires, we then get> > greedy for more, or take foolish pride in our possessions.> >> > These six are also related to the 6 lower chakras, in that order,> > and controlling each of them gets us one step closer to the> > Sahasrara, the eternal abode of Sadaashiva.> >> > One way to control these evils is to meditate upon the Grahas that> > are responsible for causing these, as well as responsible for giving> > us the strength to overcome these.> > Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms (Lakshmi, Uma> > etc.)> > Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda> > Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru> > Moha - Budha - Vishnu> > Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc)> > Matsarya - Shani - Shiva> >> > The idea is that the Grahas represent the "antidote" to the poison> > spewed by the evils, for example, Moha is ignorance and Budha stands> > for intelligence that lets us transcend the ignorance.> >> > The two that I don't understand are for Mada and Mascharya. Could> > any learned member of the group clarify that these are indeed the> > correct Grahas to pray for Mukti from these two evils?> >> > Thank you,> > Venkat> >> >> Adventavit asinus, pulcher et fortissimus SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Dear Venkatarama, Did you misprint Rahu in place of Chandra? Or does Rahu rule any Chakra? Chandrashekhar. venkatarama_sastry wrote: > Dear Friends, > > According to Hinduism, our worst enemies are the ones within us, and > the true victory is to defeat these. The six that are listed are > Kama (lust or Desires), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha > (ignorance or foolishness), Mada (pride), Matscharya (Jealousy or > Envy). Each of these not only causes sorrow, but they also lead to > the others. We see this in our daily life. If we desire something, > and do not get it, (Kama) we are either angry (Krodha), or envious > of those that do have it. If we do fulfil our desires, we then get > greedy for more, or take foolish pride in our possessions. > > These six are also related to the 6 lower chakras, in that order, > and controlling each of them gets us one step closer to the > Sahasrara, the eternal abode of Sadaashiva. > > One way to control these evils is to meditate upon the Grahas that > are responsible for causing these, as well as responsible for giving > us the strength to overcome these. > Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms (Lakshmi, Uma > etc.) > Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda > Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru > Moha - Budha - Vishnu > Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc) > Matsarya - Shani - Shiva > > The idea is that the Grahas represent the "antidote" to the poison > spewed by the evils, for example, Moha is ignorance and Budha stands > for intelligence that lets us transcend the ignorance. > > The two that I don't understand are for Mada and Mascharya. Could > any learned member of the group clarify that these are indeed the > correct Grahas to pray for Mukti from these two evils? > > Thank you, > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > ------ > * Links* > > * > vedic astrology/ > > * > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology?subject=Un> > > * Terms of > Service <>. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Dear Chandrasekhar Ji, Yes, that is strange, isn't it, since Rahu does not own any houses? Different gurus and books have different graha schemes. The scheme I wrote is one, the logic that was explained is that the luminories (Sun and Moon) are beyond the CHakras, since they "illuminate the path" and are not confined to any one area or one Chakra. Other schemes only exempt the Sun, and assign a Chakra to the Moon (Heart Chakra), and remove Rahu from the scheme. I don't know. Ketu also, is outside of the scheme I mentioned, since he is the Moksha Karaka. Another gentleman wrote another scheme ... hopefully when we put our heads together, we can understand who are the real owners / Grahas. Narasimha posted something on Chakras sometime back, let me see if I can find it. I appreciate your guidence. Thanks, Venkat vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Venkatarama, > Did you misprint Rahu in place of Chandra? Or does Rahu rule any Chakra? > Chandrashekhar. > > venkatarama_sastry wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > According to Hinduism, our worst enemies are the ones within us, and > > the true victory is to defeat these. The six that are listed are > > Kama (lust or Desires), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha > > (ignorance or foolishness), Mada (pride), Matscharya (Jealousy or > > Envy). Each of these not only causes sorrow, but they also lead to > > the others. We see this in our daily life. If we desire something, > > and do not get it, (Kama) we are either angry (Krodha), or envious > > of those that do have it. If we do fulfil our desires, we then get > > greedy for more, or take foolish pride in our possessions. > > > > These six are also related to the 6 lower chakras, in that order, > > and controlling each of them gets us one step closer to the > > Sahasrara, the eternal abode of Sadaashiva. > > > > One way to control these evils is to meditate upon the Grahas that > > are responsible for causing these, as well as responsible for giving > > us the strength to overcome these. > > Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms (Lakshmi, Uma > > etc.) > > Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda > > Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru > > Moha - Budha - Vishnu > > Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc) > > Matsarya - Shani - Shiva > > > > The idea is that the Grahas represent the "antidote" to the poison > > spewed by the evils, for example, Moha is ignorance and Budha stands > > for intelligence that lets us transcend the ignorance. > > > > The two that I don't understand are for Mada and Mascharya. Could > > any learned member of the group clarify that these are indeed the > > correct Grahas to pray for Mukti from these two evils? > > > > Thank you, > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- ------- > > * Links* > > > > * > > vedic astrology/ > > > > * > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology? subject=Un> > > > > * Terms of > > Service <>. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Dear Venkat, Please see, You must be talking about the Shad Ripus. The Guru do not represent any of the shad ripus as it has special powers for the Moksha. One cannot get the moksha without the blessing of the Guru, its placement in the twelth house or drishti. Also the Rahu and Ketu also do not represent the shad ripus as they are the nodes and karmic planets. The remaining seven planets represent the shad ripus as follows: Sun - Mad Moon- Moha Mars- Krodha Mercury- Matsar Venus- Kaam Saturn- Lobha The Place in the horosope of the shad ripus is the sixth house. And the details of it can be analysed with the help og D6 divisional chart. I think this will help you, Yours Dewavrat BuitChandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Venkatarama,Did you misprint Rahu in place of Chandra? Or does Rahu rule any Chakra?Chandrashekhar.venkatarama_sastry wrote:> Dear Friends,>> According to Hinduism, our worst enemies are the ones within us, and> the true victory is to defeat these. The six that are listed are> Kama (lust or Desires), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha> (ignorance or foolishness), Mada (pride), Matscharya (Jealousy or> Envy). Each of these not only causes sorrow, but they also lead to> the others. We see this in our daily life. If we desire something,> and do not get it, (Kama) we are either angry (Krodha), or envious> of those that do have it. If we do fulfil our desires, we then get> greedy for more, or take foolish pride in our possessions.>> These six are also related to the 6 lower chakras, in that order,> and controlling each of them gets us one step closer to the> Sahasrara, the eternal abode of Sadaashiva.>> One way to control these evils is to meditate upon the Grahas that> are responsible for causing these, as well as responsible for giving> us the strength to overcome these.> Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms (Lakshmi, Uma> etc.)> Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda> Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru> Moha - Budha - Vishnu> Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc)> Matsarya - Shani - Shiva>> The idea is that the Grahas represent the "antidote" to the poison> spewed by the evils, for example, Moha is ignorance and Budha stands> for intelligence that lets us transcend the ignorance.>> The two that I don't understand are for Mada and Mascharya. Could> any learned member of the group clarify that these are indeed the> correct Grahas to pray for Mukti from these two evils?>> Thank you,> Venkat>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>>> ------> * Links*>> * > vedic astrology/> > * To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> <vedic astrology?subject=Un>> > * Terms of> Service <>.>>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Dear Dewavrat ji, D-6 is the chart of enemies who manifest physically, such as physical enemies, disease, litigation etc. The shadripus (six internal enemies) work at the sub-conscious level. They are rather seen in D-30. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Dear Venkat, > Please see, You must be talking about the Shad Ripus. The Guru do not represent any of the shad ripus as it has special powers for the Moksha. One cannot get the moksha without the blessing of the Guru, its placement in the twelth house or drishti. Also the Rahu and Ketu also do not represent the shad ripus as they are the nodes and karmic planets. The remaining seven planets represent the shad ripus as follows: > > Sun - Mad > Moon- Moha > Mars- Krodha > Mercury- Matsar > Venus- Kaam > Saturn- Lobha > > The Place in the horosope of the shad ripus is the sixth house. And the details of it can be analysed with the help og D6 divisional chart. > > I think this will help you, > > Yours > > Dewavrat Buit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Thank you all for sharing your knowledge with me and the other members of this group. Yes, I was enquiring about the Shadripus. Thanks, Venkat vedic astrology, "pvr108" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Dear Dewavrat ji, > > D-6 is the chart of enemies who manifest physically, such as > physical enemies, disease, litigation etc. The shadripus (six > internal enemies) work at the sub-conscious level. They are rather > seen in D-30. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha > > > Dear Venkat, > > Please see, You must be talking about the Shad Ripus. The Guru > do not represent any of the shad ripus as it has special powers for > the Moksha. One cannot get the moksha without the blessing of the > Guru, its placement in the twelth house or drishti. Also the Rahu > and Ketu also do not represent the shad ripus as they are the nodes > and karmic planets. The remaining seven planets represent the shad > ripus as follows: > > > > Sun - Mad > > Moon- Moha > > Mars- Krodha > > Mercury- Matsar > > Venus- Kaam > > Saturn- Lobha > > > > The Place in the horosope of the shad ripus is the sixth house. > And the details of it can be analysed with the help og D6 divisional > chart. > > > > I think this will help you, > > > > Yours > > > > Dewavrat Buit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Chandrasekharji, venkat and dewavrat, Sun is the father, Moon is the mother and Guru is the son. The six enemies are as follows: - 1. Kaama - venus 2. Krodha - mars 3. Lobha - rahu 4. Moha - ketu 5. Mada - sani 6. Matsarya - buda Kaama(desire) - Venus. This venus is exalted in pisces. Sun is the most powerful planet in the maraka kshetra to Venus. Lord Shiva is responsible for kaama daghana(burning of kaamadeva). Lord Shiva can open up the third eye which can extinguish Kaama/desire. Krodha(anger) - Mars. Lord Datatreya who appeared as chandala(sani and rahu are co-owners of kumba) before AdiSankara can help in the annihilation of krodha. Lobha(greed) - Rahu. The All compassionate Mother Parasakthi can drive away this evil force called greed(supposed to be the innate quality of Manushya/human beings). Moha(passion) - Ketu. Lord Ganesha(karaka for liberation from bondage) can help us from preventing this headless plunge. Mada(intoxication) - Sani. Lord Subrahmanya is more intoxicating/more captivating than any intoxicants. Matsarya(jealousy) - Buda. Lord Sriman Narayana is responsible for sustenance and stability. He has declared that he would descend to lift up the glory of dharma and do justice. Hope this helps. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan.dewavrat buit <dewavrat2000 > wrote: ||OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA|| Dear Venkat, Please see, You must be talking about the Shad Ripus. The Guru do not represent any of the shad ripus as it has special powers for the Moksha. One cannot get the moksha without the blessing of the Guru, its placement in the twelth house or drishti. Also the Rahu and Ketu also do not represent the shad ripus as they are the nodes and karmic planets. The remaining seven planets represent the shad ripus as follows: Sun - Mad Moon- Moha Mars- Krodha Mercury- Matsar Venus- Kaam Saturn- Lobha The Place in the horosope of the shad ripus is the sixth house. And the details of it can be analysed with the help og D6 divisional chart. I think this will help you, Yours Dewavrat BuitChandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Venkatarama,Did you misprint Rahu in place of Chandra? Or does Rahu rule any Chakra?Chandrashekhar.venkatarama_sastry wrote:> Dear Friends,>> According to Hinduism, our worst enemies are the ones within us, and> the true victory is to defeat these. The six that are listed are> Kama (lust or Desires), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha> (ignorance or foolishness), Mada (pride), Matscharya (Jealousy or> Envy). Each of these not only causes sorrow, but they also lead to> the others. We see this in our daily life. If we desire something,> and do not get it, (Kama) we are either angry (Krodha), or envious> of those that do have it. If we do fulfil our desires, we then get> greedy for more, or take foolish pride in our possessions.>> These six are also related to the 6 lower chakras, in that order,> and controlling each of them gets us one step closer to the> Sahasrara, the eternal abode of Sadaashiva.>> One way to control these evils is to meditate upon the Grahas that> are responsible for causing these, as well as responsible for giving> us the strength to overcome these.> Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms (Lakshmi, Uma> etc.)> Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda> Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru> Moha - Budha - Vishnu> Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc)> Matsarya - Shani - Shiva>> The idea is that the Grahas represent the "antidote" to the poison> spewed by the evils, for example, Moha is ignorance and Budha stands> for intelligence that lets us transcend the ignorance.>> The two that I don't understand are for Mada and Mascharya. Could> any learned member of the group clarify that these are indeed the> correct Grahas to pray for Mukti from these two evils?>> Thank you,> Venkat>>>>> Archives: vedic astrology>> Group info: vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......>> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||>>> ------> * Links*>> * > vedic astrology/> > * To from this group, send an email to:> vedic astrology> <vedic astrology?subject=Un>> > * Terms of> Service <>.>>Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... To visit your group on the web, go to:vedic astrology/ To from this group, send an email to:vedic astrology Your use of is subject to the SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Dear Ramanarayanan, I do not think the ripu ruling is based on who can deliver you from a ripu. Ketu could not rule Moha. It is Chandra. Similarly Rahu ruling Lobha appears to be wrong as Guru rules over it , if my memory serves me right. Could you give the source of your information, since I could be wrong? Chandrashekhar. rama narayanan wrote: > *_SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT_* > *_AUM GURUBYO NAMAH_* > > Dear Chandrasekharji, venkat and dewavrat, > > Sun is the father, Moon is the mother and Guru is the son. The six > enemies are as follows: - > > 1. Kaama - venus > 2. Krodha - mars > 3. Lobha - rahu > 4. Moha - ketu > 5. Mada - sani > 6. Matsarya - buda > > Kaama(desire) - Venus. This venus is exalted in pisces. Sun is the > most powerful planet in the maraka kshetra to Venus. Lord Shiva is > responsible for kaama daghana(burning of kaamadeva). Lord Shiva can > open up the third eye which can extinguish Kaama/desire. > > Krodha(anger) - Mars. Lord Datatreya who appeared as chandala(sani > and rahu are co-owners of kumba) before AdiSankara can help in the > annihilation of krodha. > > Lobha(greed) - Rahu. The All compassionate Mother Parasakthi can drive > away this evil force called greed(supposed to be the innate quality of > Manushya/human beings). > > Moha(passion) - Ketu. Lord Ganesha(karaka for liberation from > bondage) can help us from preventing this headless plunge. > > Mada(intoxication) - Sani. Lord Subrahmanya is more intoxicating/more > captivating than any intoxicants. > > Matsarya(jealousy) - Buda. Lord Sriman Narayana is responsible for > sustenance and stability. He has declared that he would descend to > lift up the glory of dharma and do justice. > > Hope this helps. > > Astrologically yours, > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > */dewavrat buit <dewavrat2000/* wrote: > > ||OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA|| > > > Dear Venkat, > Please see, You must be talking about the Shad Ripus. The Guru > do not represent any of the shad ripus as it has special powers > for the Moksha. One cannot get the moksha without the blessing of > the Guru, its placement in the twelth house or drishti. Also the > Rahu and Ketu also do not represent the shad ripus as they are the > nodes and karmic planets. The remaining seven planets represent > the shad ripus as follows: > > Sun - Mad > Moon- Moha > Mars- Krodha > Mercury- Matsar > Venus- Kaam > Saturn- Lobha > > The Place in the horosope of the shad ripus is the sixth house. > And the details of it can be analysed with the help og D6 > divisional chart. > > I think this will help you, > > Yours > > Dewavrat Buit > */Chandrashekhar <boxdel/* wrote: > > Dear Venkatarama, > Did you misprint Rahu in place of Chandra? Or does Rahu rule > any Chakra? > Chandrashekhar. > > venkatarama_sastry wrote: > > > Dear Friends, > > > > According to Hinduism, our worst enemies are the ones within > us, and > > the true victory is to defeat these. The six that are listed are > > Kama (lust or Desires), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha > > (ignorance or foolishness), Mada (pride), Matscharya > (Jealousy or > > Envy). Each of these not only causes sorrow, but they also > lead to > > the others. We see this in our daily life. If we desire > something, > > and do not get it, (Kama) we are either angry (Krodha), or > envious > > of those that do have it. If we do fulfil our desires, we > then get > > greedy for more, or take foolish pride in our possessions. > > > > These six are also related to the 6 lower chakras, in that > order, > > and controlling each of them gets us one step closer to the > > Sahasrara, the eternal abode of Sadaashiva. > > > > One way to control these evils is to meditate upon the > Grahas that > > are responsible for causing these, as well as responsible > for giving > > us the strength to overcome these. > > Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms > (Lakshmi, Uma > > etc.) > > Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda > > Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru > > Moha - Budha - Vishnu > > Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc) > > Matsarya - Shani - Shiva > > > > The idea is that the Grahas represent the "antidote" to the > poison > > spewed by the evils, for example, Moha is ignorance and > Budha stands > > for intelligence that lets us transcend the ignorance. > > > > The two that I don't understand are for Mada and Mascharya. > Could > > any learned member of the group clarify that these are > indeed the > > correct Grahas to pray for Mukti from these two evils? > > > > Thank you, > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Hello all what I read in one marathi astrology book is.. 1. Kaama - venus 2. Krodha - mars 3. Lobha - Sat 4. Moha - Moon 5. Mada - Sun 6. Matsarya - buda Which I find right one with charcteristics of planets. But I donot know Why Jup is not part of this Shad ripu consideration.. One reason is Jupiter is Guru... Or For Mada either Sun / Jup has to be considered. Regards Astro_Learn vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Ramanarayanan, > I do not think the ripu ruling is based on who can deliver you from a > ripu. Ketu could not rule Moha. It is Chandra. Similarly Rahu ruling > Lobha appears to be wrong as Guru rules over it , if my memory serves me > right. Could you give the source of your information, since I could be > wrong? > Chandrashekhar. > > rama narayanan wrote: > > > *_SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT_* > > *_AUM GURUBYO NAMAH_* > > > > Dear Chandrasekharji, venkat and dewavrat, > > > > Sun is the father, Moon is the mother and Guru is the son. The six > > enemies are as follows: - > > > > 1. Kaama - venus > > 2. Krodha - mars > > 3. Lobha - rahu > > 4. Moha - ketu > > 5. Mada - sani > > 6. Matsarya - buda > > > > Kaama(desire) - Venus. This venus is exalted in pisces. Sun is the > > most powerful planet in the maraka kshetra to Venus. Lord Shiva is > > responsible for kaama daghana(burning of kaamadeva). Lord Shiva can > > open up the third eye which can extinguish Kaama/desire. > > > > Krodha(anger) - Mars. Lord Datatreya who appeared as chandala (sani > > and rahu are co-owners of kumba) before AdiSankara can help in Sun - Mad > > Moon- Moha > > Mars- Krodha > > Mercury- Matsar > > Venus- Kaam > > Saturn- Lobhathe > > annihilation of krodha. > > > > Lobha(greed) - Rahu. The All compassionate Mother Parasakthi can drive > > away this evil force called greed(supposed to be the innate quality of > > Manushya/human beings). > > > > Moha(passion) - Ketu. Lord Ganesha(karaka for liberation from > > bondage) can help us from preventing this headless plunge. > > > > Mada(intoxication) - Sani. Lord Subrahmanya is more intoxicating/more > > captivating than any intoxicants. > > > > Matsarya(jealousy) - Buda. Lord Sriman Narayana is responsible for > > sustenance and stability. He has declared that he would descend to > > lift up the glory of dharma and do justice. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Astrologically yours, > > > > p.s.ramanarayanan. > > > > */dewavrat buit <dewavrat2000>/* wrote: > > > > ||OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA|| > > > > > > Dear Venkat, > > Please see, You must be talking about the Shad Ripus. The Guru > > do not represent any of the shad ripus as it has special powers > > for the Moksha. One cannot get the moksha without the blessing of > > the Guru, its placement in the twelth house or drishti. Also the > > Rahu and Ketu also do not represent the shad ripus as they are the > > nodes and karmic planets. The remaining seven planets represent > > the shad ripus as follows: > > > > > > > > The Place in the horosope of the shad ripus is the sixth house. > > And the details of it can be analysed with the help og D6 > > divisional chart. > > > > I think this will help you, > > > > Yours > > > > Dewavrat Buit > > */Chandrashekhar <boxdel>/* wrote: > > > > Dear Venkatarama, > > Did you misprint Rahu in place of Chandra? Or does Rahu rule > > any Chakra? > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > venkatarama_sastry wrote: > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > According to Hinduism, our worst enemies are the ones within > > us, and > > > the true victory is to defeat these. The six that are listed are > > > Kama (lust or Desires), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha > > > (ignorance or foolishness), Mada (pride), Matscharya > > (Jealousy or > > > Envy). Each of these not only causes sorrow, but they also > > lead to > > > the others. We see this in our daily life. If we desire > > something, > > > and do not get it, (Kama) we are either angry (Krodha), or > > envious > > > of those that do have it. If we do fulfil our desires, we > > then get > > > greedy for more, or take foolish pride in our possessions. > > > > > > These six are also related to the 6 lower chakras, in that > > order, > > > and controlling each of them gets us one step closer to the > > > Sahasrara, the eternal abode of Sadaashiva. > > > > > > One way to control these evils is to meditate upon the > > Grahas that > > > are responsible for causing these, as well as responsible > > for giving > > > us the strength to overcome these. > > > Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms > > (Lakshmi, Uma > > > etc.) > > > Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda > > > Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru > > > Moha - Budha - Vishnu > > > Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc) > > > Matsarya - Shani - Shiva > > > > > > The idea is that the Grahas represent the "antidote" to the > > poison > > > spewed by the evils, for example, Moha is ignorance and > > Budha stands > > > for intelligence that lets us transcend the ignorance. > > > > > > The two that I don't understand are for Mada and Mascharya. > > Could > > > any learned member of the group clarify that these are > > indeed the > > > correct Grahas to pray for Mukti from these two evils? > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Venkat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Chandrasekharji, Sani is the karaka of 6th house. Shadripu is seen in Parashari Trimsamsa chart. These weaknesses are acquired on account of Rajo and Tamo gunas. The satwa guna planets (Sun, Moon and Jupiter) do not contribute to the shadripu. The rajo guna planets buda and sukra cause ego/jealousy and lust related weakness while the tamo guna planets cause anger(mars), greed(rahu), intoxication/addiction(sani) and illusions and mistakes(ketu). Source reference that is fresh in my memory is the chapter on Trimsamsa by Shiv Pujan in the varga chakra book. Hope this helps. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan.Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Ramanarayanan,I do not think the ripu ruling is based on who can deliver you from a ripu. Ketu could not rule Moha. It is Chandra. Similarly Rahu ruling Lobha appears to be wrong as Guru rules over it , if my memory serves me right. Could you give the source of your information, since I could be wrong?Chandrashekhar.rama narayanan wrote:> *_SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT_*> *_AUM GURUBYO NAMAH_*> > Dear Chandrasekharji, venkat and dewavrat,> > Sun is the father, Moon is the mother and Guru is the son. The six > enemies are as follows: -> > 1. Kaama - venus> 2. Krodha - mars> 3. Lobha - rahu> 4. Moha - ketu> 5. Mada - sani> 6. Matsarya - buda> > Kaama(desire) - Venus. This venus is exalted in pisces. Sun is the > most powerful planet in the maraka kshetra to Venus. Lord Shiva is > responsible for kaama daghana(burning of kaamadeva). Lord Shiva can > open up the third eye which can extinguish Kaama/desire.> > Krodha(anger) - Mars. Lord Datatreya who appeared as chandala(sani > and rahu are co-owners of kumba) before AdiSankara can help in the > annihilation of krodha.> > Lobha(greed) - Rahu. The All compassionate Mother Parasakthi can drive > away this evil force called greed(supposed to be the innate quality of > Manushya/human beings).> > Moha(passion) - Ketu. Lord Ganesha(karaka for liberation from > bondage) can help us from preventing this headless plunge.> > Mada(intoxication) - Sani. Lord Subrahmanya is more intoxicating/more > captivating than any intoxicants.> > Matsarya(jealousy) - Buda. Lord Sriman Narayana is responsible for > sustenance and stability. He has declared that he would descend to > lift up the glory of dharma and do justice.> > Hope this helps.> > Astrologically yours,> > p.s.ramanarayanan.>> */dewavrat buit /* wrote:>> ||OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA||> > > Dear Venkat,> Please see, You must be talking about the Shad Ripus. The Guru> do not represent any of the shad ripus as it has special powers> for the Moksha. One cannot get the moksha without the blessing of> the Guru, its placement in the twelth house or drishti. Also the> Rahu and Ketu also do not represent the shad ripus as they are the> nodes and karmic planets. The remaining seven planets represent> the shad ripus as follows:> > Sun - Mad> Moon- Moha> Mars- Krodha> Mercury- Matsar> Venus- Kaam> Saturn- Lobha> > The Place in the horosope of the shad ripus is the sixth house. > And the details of it can be analysed with the help og D6> divisional chart.> > I think this will help you,> > Yours> > Dewavrat Buit> */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:>> Dear Venkatarama,> Did you misprint Rahu in place of Chandra? Or does Rahu rule> any Chakra?> Chandrashekhar.>> venkatarama_sastry wrote:>> > Dear Friends,> >> > According to Hinduism, our worst enemies are the ones within> us, and> > the true victory is to defeat these. The six that are listed are> > Kama (lust or Desires), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha> > (ignorance or foolishness), Mada (pride), Matscharya> (Jealousy or> > Envy). Each of these not only causes sorrow, but they also> lead to> > the others. We see this in our daily life. If we desire> something,> > and do not get it, (Kama) we are either angry (Krodha), or> envious> > of those that do have it. If we do fulfil our desires, we> then get> > greedy for more, or take foolish pride in our possessions.> >> > These six are also related to the 6 lower chakras, in that> order,> > and controlling each of them gets us one step closer to the> > Sahasrara, the eternal abode of Sadaashiva.> >> > One way to control these evils is to meditate upon the> Grahas that> > are responsible for causing these, as well as responsible> for giving> > us the strength to overcome these.> > Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms> (Lakshmi, Uma> > etc.)> > Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda> > Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru> > Moha - Budha - Vishnu> > Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc)> > Matsarya - Shani - Shiva> >> > The idea is that the Grahas represent the "antidote" to the> poison> > spewed by the evils, for example, Moha is ignorance and> Budha stands> > for intelligence that lets us transcend the ignorance.> >> > The two that I don't understand are for Mada and Mascharya.> Could> > any learned member of the group clarify that these are> indeed the> > correct Grahas to pray for Mukti from these two evils?> >> > Thank you,> > Venkat> >> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info:> vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> >> > ....... 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