Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 Dear Jai, As Jupiter repreents Guru and he is required to realise the highest truth, should we say that Jupiter gives Shad ripu? or he gives the ability to overcome Shad ripus? Varga Chakra is edited by Pt Rath,where it is clearly mentioned that the planets with Satwa guna, do not represent any of the Shad-ripus. Planets being 'Kroora or Soumya' is a different matter altogether. Planets do become 'Kroora' for certain Lagnas (if not by nature)!! Generally, Jupiter is non-controvertial, except on days of Chaturdasi! Regards viswanadham jaidev balagopal <jbalagop > wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar-ji - This is something I picked up from one of Sanjay Rath-ji's lecture CDs. According to what i understood, Jupiter is representative of the sahashra chakra and as such represents the highest of truths. It is only when one attains samadhi or god realization (after the activation of the sahasra-chakra) that one can talk about the possibility of moksha. Jupiter represents this highest truth - that of god realization. So why does it free Jupiter from being considered as one of the Shadripus? it has to, since realizing this highest truth means getting rid of one's shad-ripus and re-associating with the universal ego (god realization). To this point, it is said that if Jupiter aspects or is posited in the 6th from Lagna in a punya chart(death chart), the person's shadripus were cleansed. Comments are always welcome. - Jai Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Ramanarayanan,I have great respect for Shivpujan. The theory appears correct if viewed in isolation, but Parashara gives Malfeasance to SUN,and weak Moon Now why would a Satwik planet be Malefic? I think in describing them as Satwa being their quality it is meant in the sense of strength as Sun and Moon are Royal planets too. Parashara himself describes the quality of Moon as Madanatur(Lustful) and this certainly not in keeping with allotment of Satwik guna to him. Jupiter also rules over Banks and interest charging and its connection to Lobha becomes obvious.I think much needs to be thought in depth about assigning shadripus to planet on the basis of one shloka as that shloka does not mention Rahu and Ketu's qualities as they are Chayagrahas, probably.Chandrashekhar.rama narayanan wrote:> *_SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT_*> *_AUM GURUBYO NAMAH_*> > Dear Chandrasekharji,> Sani is the karaka of 6th house. Shadripu is seen in Parashari > Trimsamsa chart. These weaknesses are acquired on account of Rajo and > Tamo gunas. The satwa guna planets (Sun, Moon and Jupiter) do not > contribute to the shadripu. The rajo guna planets buda and sukra cause > ego/jealousy and lust related weakness while the tamo guna planets > cause anger(mars), greed(rahu), intoxication/addiction(sani) and > illusions and mistakes(ketu).> Source reference that is fresh in my memory is the chapter on > Trimsamsa by Shiv Pujan in the varga chakra book.> > Hope this helps.> > Astrologically yours,> > p.s.ramanarayanan.>> */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:>> Dear Ramanarayanan,> I do not think the ripu ruling is based on who can deliver you from a> ripu. Ketu could not rule Moha. It is Chandra. Similarly Rahu ruling> Lobha appears to be wrong as Guru rules over it , if my memory> serves me> right. Could you give the source of your information, since I> could be> wrong?> Chandrashekhar.>> rama narayanan wrote:>> > *_SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT_*> > *_AUM GURUBYO NAMAH_*> >> > Dear Chandrasekharji, venkat and dewavrat,> >> > Sun is the father, Moon is the mother and Guru is the son. The six> > enemies are as follows: -> >> > 1. Kaama - venus> > 2. Krodha - mars> > 3. Lobha - rahu> > 4. Moha - ketu> > 5. Mada - sani> > 6. Matsarya - buda> >> > Kaama(desire) - Venus. This venus is exalted in pisces. Sun is the> > most powerful planet in the maraka kshetra to Venus. Lord Shiva is> > responsible for kaama daghana(burning of kaamadeva). Lord Shiva can> > open up the third eye which can extinguish Kaama/desire.> >> > Krodha(anger) - Mars. Lord Datatreya who appeared as chandala(sani> > and rahu are co-owners of kumba) before AdiSankara can help in the> > annihilation of krodha.> >> > Lobha(greed) - Rahu. The All compassionate Mother Parasakthi can> drive> > away this evil force called greed(supposed to be the innate> quality of> > Manushya/human beings).> >> > Moha(passion) - Ketu. Lord Ganesha(karaka for liberation from> > bondage) can help us from preventing this headless plunge.> >> > Mada(intoxication) - Sani. Lord Subrahmanya is more> intoxicating/more> > captivating than any intoxicants.> >> > Matsarya(jealousy) - Buda. Lord Sriman Narayana is responsible for> > sustenance and stability. He has declared that he would descend to> > lift up the glory of dharma and do justice.> >> > Hope this helps.> >> > Astrologically yours,> >> > p.s.ramanarayanan.> >> > */dewavrat buit /* wrote:> >> > ||OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA||> >> >> > Dear Venkat,> > Please see, You must be talking about the Shad Ripus. The Guru> > do not represent any of the shad ripus as it has special powers> > for the Moksha. One cannot get the moksha without the blessing of> > the Guru, its placement in the twelth house or drishti. Also the> > Rahu and Ketu also do not represent the shad ripus as they are the> > nodes and karmic planets. The remaining seven planets represent> > the shad ripus as follows:> >> > Sun - Mad> > Moon- Moha> > Mars- Krodha> > Mercury- Matsar> > Venus- Kaam> > Saturn- Lobha> >> > The Place in the horosope of the shad ripus is the sixth house.> > And the details of it can be analysed with the help og D6> > divisional chart.> >> > I think this will help you,> >> > Yours> >> > Dewavrat Buit> > */Chandrashekhar /* wrote:> >> > Dear Venkatarama,> > Did you misprint Rahu in place of Chandra? Or does Rahu rule> > any Chakra?> > Chandrashekhar.> >> > venkatarama_sastry wrote:> >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > According to Hinduism, our worst enemies are the ones within> > us, and> > > the true victory is to defeat these. The six that are listed are> > > Kama (lust or Desires), Krodha (anger), Lobha (greed), Moha> > > (ignorance or foolishness), Mada (pride), Matscharya> > (Jealousy or> > > Envy). Each of these not only causes sorrow, but they also> > lead to> > > the others. We see this in our daily life. If we desire> > something,> > > and do not get it, (Kama) we are either angry (Krodha), or> > envious> > > of those that do have it. If we do fulfil our desires, we> > then get> > > greedy for more, or take foolish pride in our possessions.> > >> > > These six are also related to the 6 lower chakras, in that> > order,> > > and controlling each of them gets us one step closer to the> > > Sahasrara, the eternal abode of Sadaashiva.> > >> > > One way to control these evils is to meditate upon the> > Grahas that> > > are responsible for causing these, as well as responsible> > for giving> > > us the strength to overcome these.> > > Kama - Shukra - Ganesha, Devi in her peaceful forms> > (Lakshmi, Uma> > > etc.)> > > Krodha - Mangala - Narasimha or Skanda> > > Lobha - Guru - one's Guru or the Jagatguru> > > Moha - Budha - Vishnu> > > Mada - Rahu - Devi in her ferocious forms (Durga, Shakti etc)> > > Matsarya - Shani - Shiva> > >> > > The idea is that the Grahas represent the "antidote" to the> > poison> > > spewed by the evils, for example, Moha is ignorance and> > Budha stands> > > for intelligence that lets us transcend the ignorance.> > >> > > The two that I don't understand are for Mada and Mascharya.> > Could> > > any learned member of the group clarify that these are> > indeed the> > > correct Grahas to pray for Mukti from these two evils?> > >> > > Thank you,> > > Venkat> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > >> > > Group info:> > vedic astrology/info.html> > >> > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-> > >> > > > > >> > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > >> > >> > >> >> ------> > > * Links*> > >> > > * > > > vedic astrology/> > >> > > * To from this group, send an email to:> > > vedic astrology> > >> >> > >> > > * Your use of is subject to the > > Terms of> > > Service .> > >> > >> >> >> >> > Archives: vedic astrology> >> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > vedic astrology-> >> > ....... 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