To Siva: moksha & Everything...

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Siva,

I am forced to comment on one statement of yours, because I see

people misinterpreting this all the time. This is not directed at

you, but a general attitude I have seen which I think needs to be

corrected:

 

> For me and probably many others, seeing is believing and we

believe

> in astrology but I dont think there has ever been a *complete*

> explanation of how Jyotish works.

 

 

The true scientist values empiricism above all else. This is the

unalterable sequence for any true scientist: OBSERVATION comes first,

then HYPOTHESIS, then PREDICTION based on hypothesis, then promotion

of HYPOTHESIS to EXPLANATION based on the VALIDATION of it's

PREDICTIONS. What I see many many people doing is debunking Jyotish

falsely under the covers of "science". When they say "how can a

planet millions of miles away affect our destiny", they are not being

scientific because they are FIRST looking for an EXPLANATION, BEFORE

accepting the OBSERVATIONS. A true scientist always observes first,

even if he has no theories or explanations, or worse, even if the

observations flatly contradict his pre-existing beliefs and theories.

Einstein for example OBSERVED that the speed of light was a dead

constant in all directions BEFORE he hypothesized the theory that

explained it. The constancy of the speed of light was in stark

contradiction to then existing theories, but that didnt stop Einstein

from observing that constancy as a FACT.

 

The true scientific approach to Jyotish is to observe first. *IS*

there a correlation between the movement of planets and our lives?

Once you get PAST that i.e have answered the question in YES or NO,

you can proceed to the hypothesis. People frequently go the other

way - they cant find a comfortable hypothesis, so they deny the

facts. That is not scientific.

 

Secondly, the next biggest mistake I see people making, and yes I

have not seen ONE person point out this mistake is that when they see

a correlation between A and B, they automatically assume that A

CAUSES B. That is an assumption - it is only ONE possibility of

potentially more. Case in point: Jyotish. When they see the movement

of planets correlating directly with the events in the lives of

people, people automatically assume that the movement of planets

CAUSES those events. Huh? Why? Say for example the mail in your house

comes at 2pm. You keep watching the clock on the wall, and when it

hits 2pm you run to your mailbox and sure enough, there is the mail.

Did the movement of the clock to the position 2pm CAUSE the mail to

come? No! Both the mailman and you are using a synchronized clock.

Neither caused the other. The same MAY be the case for JYOTISH. It

MAY - I dont know, I am simply not eliminating it as a possibility.

The planets may be like a complex clock in the sky (that can be read

only by competent astrologers of course), keeping time of events that

occur in your life. They may only be the clock, not necessarily the

process that causes the event. I find it funny when people say - we

know all the material forces e.g. gravity that emanate from all

planets, and none has enough magnitude to affect anything on earth.

My answer - So what? The planets may not be CAUSING the things on

earth, simply TIMING them.

 

 

Sundeep