Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Namaste Ramesh Ji, Thanks for the note and I thought of answering to your question and also copy to VA list, as it may be helpful to some other folks also. As you know I am still learning Saham's. So as of today, I can say that, I am not getting 100% results exclusively using Saham's, but I can say with confidence, one can use Saham's as a complimentary to other methods. My observations are: Sahams's are working very well in Prasna and Annual Charts. My understanding of Ithasala and other Prasna related definitions are given below:-. 1) Ithasala:- An Ithasala yoga is caused when a faster planet with less longitude is behind a slower planet with more longitude. this is a benefic yoga. 2) Muthaseela:- When the Ithasala occurs within half a degree, it becomes Muthaseela, a very favourable aspect. 3) Easarapha:- When a faster planet with greater longitude is ahead of a slower planet with less longitude, an Easarapha yoga is formed. this is unfavourable aspect. 4) Nakata Yoga:- When there is no aspect between 2 planets but a planet faster than the two is in aspect to both, it causes an aspect between the two or transfers light from the faster planet to the slower planet, this is a favorable aspect. 5) Yamaya Yoga:- When there is no aspect between two planets and a slower planet is in aspect with each of them, it ( the slower planet) transfers light form the faster of the two planets to the other. 6) Kamboola Yoga:- When there is a Ithasala between two planets and the Moon is also in Ithasala with both of them, a Kamboola Yoga is formed. This is a favourable Yoga. When a Kamboola Yoga is present due to the lords of the Lagna and the 10th being in Muthasila with a quadragualr Moon. As usual, May I request Guru's and learned members to correct me if I am wrong. Regards Raghunadha Rao ----- original message ---- Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com> wrote: Dear Rao, I am going through an old email of yours on Saham. I do not understand the word ithsala! Can you please explain? Have you made further use of sahams since you wrote last on it? What has been your experience? Regards Ramesh "Timing the Event:-=============The event can genrally happen either during the period of the lord, or a planet which has ithasala with the lord of Saham."Do you ? Tax Center - File online by April 15th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Dear Rao Just saw this email...not sure how deep you have gone into sahams yet and (I am also not an expert in sahams,) yet there appears to be some contradictions between your statements..on one hand you are not 100% sure about getting results using sahams and yet you feel that they are working in annual/prashna charts...well how can such a thing happen! As far as I remember, few years ago Mr Narasimha Rao had analysed original sahams with Vimshottari dasha(based on moon) at birth, and then he computed sahams for annual charts(Tithi Pravesh Annual charts, using Ashtottari dasha)..I think he proved that whatever was promised in sahams at birth, also happened in favourable TP charts, when the annual sahams(for various relevant years) fructified, based on favourbale combinations related to those sahams on TP charts. If I am right, than this was his approach. I think he had abandoned the Tajaka approach for annual charts and also abandoned all this Ithasala etc., approach somewhere along the line. I think most people were convinced at that time with his approach, although I cannot locate any emails(search the archieves). Also if you are still using Tajaka charts, then the aspects and dashas are computed differently. I think you must be aware of all these things. (On another interesting note, for last two years, Star Teller made great/good financial predictions for me using the annual tajaka charts and Muddha Vimshottari dasha, but i contiuned to struggle in Saturn/Mercury period and none of their predictions ever fructified ...however their predictions and calculations were correct as per tajaka charts theoretically, varshaphal, muntha, munthesh etc etc., prehaps they failed to reconcile the annual charts with Vimshottari dasha at birth and just wanted to make their client happy..its like a placebo effect, with/without the medicine the patient can be cured and all paries can claim success based on their logic/reasoning based on post mortem... ) Regards and all the best in your research. RMK vedic astrology, Rao Nemani <raon1008> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna, > > Namaste Ramesh Ji, > > Thanks for the note and I thought of answering to your question and also copy to VA list, as it may be helpful to some other folks also. > > As you know I am still learning Saham's. So as of today, I can say that, I am not getting 100% results exclusively using Saham's, but I can say with confidence, one can use Saham's as a complimentary to other methods. My observations are: Sahams's are working very well in Prasna and Annual Charts. > > My understanding of Ithasala and other Prasna related definitions are given below:-. > > 1) Ithasala:- > An Ithasala yoga is caused when a faster planet with less longitude is behind a slower planet with more longitude. this is a benefic yoga. > > 2) Muthaseela:- > When the Ithasala occurs within half a degree, it becomes Muthaseela, a very favourable aspect. > > 3) Easarapha:- > When a faster planet with greater longitude is ahead of a slower planet with less longitude, an Easarapha yoga is formed. this is unfavourable aspect. > > 4) Nakata Yoga:- > When there is no aspect between 2 planets but a planet faster than the two is in aspect to both, it causes an aspect between the two or transfers light from the faster planet to the slower planet, this is a favorable aspect. > > 5) Yamaya Yoga:- > When there is no aspect between two planets and a slower planet is in aspect with each of them, it ( the slower planet) transfers light form the faster of the two planets to the other. > > 6) Kamboola Yoga:- > When there is a Ithasala between two planets and the Moon is also in Ithasala with both of them, a Kamboola Yoga is formed. This is a favourable Yoga. > > When a Kamboola Yoga is present due to the lords of the Lagna and the 10th being in Muthasila with a quadragualr Moon. > > As usual, May I request Guru's and learned members to correct me if I am wrong. > > Regards > Raghunadha Rao > > ----- original message ---- > > Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > > Dear Rao, > I am going through an old email of yours on Saham. I do not understand the word ithsala! Can you please explain? Have you made further use of sahams since you wrote last on it? What has been your experience? > Regards > Ramesh > > > > "Timing the Event:- > ============= > The event can genrally happen either during the period of the lord, or a planet which has ithasala with the lord of Saham." > > > > > > Tax Center - File online by April 15th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Rajesh, Thanks for the note and good to see you in the list. You are right, there is a deviation on my observations, but I do not call them as contradiction though, because they are not working for me ( on the test cases ) in the Natal Charts, but they are working on Prasna and T.P Charts for me. That is what I have tried to mention in my earlier message, may be I did not put that correctly. This area of Saham's are quite interesting to me, so I am applying these principles on various birth charts and writing to the list, so that some one can also read and apply these principles and tell me what they find, but I did not get any feedback so far. I will keep working on these till I am satisfied and write what I have found later. Thanks for the other tips in your note. Regards Raghunadha Rao vedic astrology, "Rajesh M. Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > Dear Rao > Just saw this email...not sure how deep you have gone into sahams yet > and (I am also not an expert in sahams,) yet there appears to be some > contradictions between your statements..on one hand you are not 100% > sure about getting results using sahams and yet you feel that they > are working in annual/prashna charts...well how can such a thing > happen! > > > As far as I remember, few years ago Mr Narasimha Rao had analysed > original sahams with Vimshottari dasha(based on moon) at birth, and > then he computed sahams for annual charts(Tithi Pravesh Annual > charts, using Ashtottari dasha)..I think he proved that whatever was > promised in sahams at birth, also happened in favourable TP charts, > when the annual sahams(for various relevant years) fructified, based > on favourbale combinations related to those sahams on TP charts. If I > am right, than this was his approach. I think he had abandoned the > Tajaka approach for annual charts and also abandoned all this > Ithasala etc., approach somewhere along the line. I think most people > were convinced at that time with his approach, although I cannot > locate any emails(search the archieves). > > > > Also if you are still using Tajaka charts, then the aspects and > dashas are computed differently. I think you must be aware of all > these things. > > (On another interesting note, for last two years, Star Teller made > great/good financial predictions for me using the annual tajaka > charts and Muddha Vimshottari dasha, but i contiuned to struggle in > Saturn/Mercury period and none of their predictions ever > fructified ...however their predictions and calculations were correct > as per tajaka charts theoretically, varshaphal, muntha, munthesh etc > etc., prehaps they failed to reconcile the annual charts with > Vimshottari dasha at birth and just wanted to make their client > happy..its like a placebo effect, with/without the medicine the > patient can be cured and all paries can claim success based on their > logic/reasoning based on post mortem... ) > > Regards and all the best in your research. > RMK > > > > > vedic astrology, Rao Nemani <raon1008> > wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna, > > > > Namaste Ramesh Ji, > > > > Thanks for the note and I thought of answering to your question and > also copy to VA list, as it may be helpful to some other folks also. > > > > As you know I am still learning Saham's. So as of today, I can say > that, I am not getting 100% results exclusively using Saham's, but I > can say with confidence, one can use Saham's as a complimentary to > other methods. My observations are: Sahams's are working very well > in Prasna and Annual Charts. > > > > My understanding of Ithasala and other Prasna related definitions > are given below:-. > > > > 1) Ithasala:- > > An Ithasala yoga is caused when a faster planet with less longitude > is behind a slower planet with more longitude. this is a benefic > yoga. > > > > 2) Muthaseela:- > > When the Ithasala occurs within half a degree, it becomes > Muthaseela, a very favourable aspect. > > > > 3) Easarapha:- > > When a faster planet with greater longitude is ahead of a slower > planet with less longitude, an Easarapha yoga is formed. this is > unfavourable aspect. > > > > 4) Nakata Yoga:- > > When there is no aspect between 2 planets but a planet faster than > the two is in aspect to both, it causes an aspect between the two or > transfers light from the faster planet to the slower planet, this is > a favorable aspect. > > > > 5) Yamaya Yoga:- > > When there is no aspect between two planets and a slower planet is > in aspect with each of them, it ( the slower planet) transfers light > form the faster of the two planets to the other. > > > > 6) Kamboola Yoga:- > > When there is a Ithasala between two planets and the Moon is also > in Ithasala with both of them, a Kamboola Yoga is formed. This is a > favourable Yoga. > > > > When a Kamboola Yoga is present due to the lords of the Lagna and > the 10th being in Muthasila with a quadragualr Moon. > > > > As usual, May I request Guru's and learned members to correct me if > I am wrong. > > > > Regards > > Raghunadha Rao > > > > ----- original message ---- > > > > Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote: > > > > Dear Rao, > > I am going through an old email of yours on Saham. I do not > understand the word ithsala! Can you please explain? Have you made > further use of sahams since you wrote last on it? What has been your > experience? > > Regards > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > "Timing the Event:- > > ============= > > The event can genrally happen either during the period of the lord, > or a planet which has ithasala with the lord of Saham." > > > > > > > > > > > > Tax Center - File online by April 15th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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