Upgrah Calculation Mistake in JHL

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` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Anil Ji,

I had already given the Shlokas from Uttara Kalamrita regarding Mandi and

Gulika.For your reference, I am quoting thise Shlokas again.You have to

download itrans Sankrit 99 fonts to read them.:

caé> oair jqa vyae nq tnU ên< *umanaht<

oa<gaÝ< rivvasraid"iqkaStTkalme mNdj>,

raÇaemaRnmh>àma[mihhœTo{fàma[< Éve-

dkaR*azinvasraNtidvse vareñrat! o{fpa>.

cäruù khäri jaöä vayo naöa tanü rünaà dyumänähataà

khäìgäptaà raviväsarädighaöikästatkälame mandajaù|

rätrormänamahaùpramäëamahihtkhaëòapramäëaà bhave-

darkädyäçaniväsaräntadivase väreçvarät khaëòapäù||

 

ANTya<zae ih inrIñrStu guilk> zd<zkStiÚzae

varezaidh pNcmaidt Ay< o{fatÉe<ze Évet!,

Syata< mNdsutavuÉavitolaivTyevmUce muin-

maR{fVy> ikl yÇ taE invstaE tÇEv hainàdaE.

antyäàço hi niréçvarastu gulikaù çadaàçakastanniço

väreçädiha pancamädita ayaà khaëòätabheàçe bhavet|

syätäà mandasutävubhävatikhalävityevamüce muni-

rmäëòavyaù kila yatra tau nivasatau tatraiva hänipradau||

The 1st Shloka is for computing Mandi nd 2nd Shloka is for Gulika.

I hope this helps you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.aokedia <anilkedia (AT) indiatimes (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Ramdas RaojiRAM KRISHN HAREThanks for supporting my views.When we take

bigining part for calculation and find the longitude of upgrahas,we

automatically get the complete range of longitude covered by upgrahas. For

example,if Ardh-Prahar longitude is say 212 degreesang Yamkantak longitude is

232 degrees,we can infer that Ardh-praharis from 212 to 232(planets/houses in

this range have influence ofArdh-prahar).For middle part,we can not say such

things directly.Ending part is also ruled out as Parashar has clearly said

begining.Do you have translation of Upgrah computing verses in Prashn-Marg?Dr.

Raman has skipped original verses and gave his own method inwhich he uses

middle portion.However I think that it is not givendirectly in those

verses(chapter 5-14,15,16).I have found another confusion in the

calculations used by Narasimha in JHL. He is not taking 8th part as Nireesh.He

takes the portion between Shani and Ravi as Nireesh. As per my

understanding,8th part on each day is Nireesh(without lord).Most authors

including Kalidas and Dr. Raman say the same thing.What do you say in this

regard?While most books give 8th part without lord,there is no

classicalreference regarding order.All books follow order of weekdays butthere

is no explicit mention of it in any verse.They just say thatfirst part is owned

by weekday lord.Prashn marg says part of shukris called YAM-SHUKR. Extending

this,we can call part of chandr asYAM-CHANDR.These two are missing in BPHS.I

feel that the order is as per Hora.Even Chaughadia is based on similar order.In

case of Chaughadia,we have 8th part same as first.Since 8th part is without

lord,Day-lord takes preference and hence 1st and 8th lords are same(i.e.

weekday lord).Another

variation says that day-lord owns one prahar while remaining6 planets own half

prahar each.So they are also called Ardh-yamesh(For Budh,we have the name

Ardh-prahar).This completely matches with above scheme for chaughadia.I do not

use them in analysis as my knowledge about upgrahas is very little.If you are

using them,please share your experiences.I have pasted the details of

calculations from JHL help file at the end.ThanksAnilkumarOM TAT SATPS: In

digest mode,all special fonts are lost and become unreadable.So you will find

your mail little distorted. PPS: Narasimha calls Dhoom etc as upgrahas.They are

actually Aprakash Grahas(planets without light).It is not correct to mix the

two.***YOU WROTE:Thu Apr 8, 2004 2:31amRe: |Sri Varaha| Upgrah

Calculation Mistake ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Anil Kumar Ji,

If you refer to my earlier mail may be

in December 2003,I have written about this.Both in BPHS and Uttara Kalamrita,it

is mentioned that Shani's portion is Gulika ie.,the beginning portion of

Shani's portion. In a query to Shri Chandrashekhar Ji, I had given all the

calculation also about Gulika and Mandi.The same is explained in Muhurta

Madhaveeyam also. Here is the shloka from Muhurta Madhaveeyam.It also tells

about the interpretation of Ardha Prahara and Yama Kantaka : ¢havarnawadyae

vasrSy àma[aòÉagaid nawa> ³me[, twa mampTyaí tTp %´ ³mat! gui¦k< AkRsutSy

Éag<,jIva<ZK< ymk<qkmamn<it, AxRàharmé[aid idne;u ved zElai]ba[ vsuviû

guhanna<ZAT!. grahäväranäthädayo väsarasya pramäëäñöabhägädi näthäù krameëa|

tathä mämapatyäçca tatpaïcamädyä ya ädyaàçanäthassa eväñöamasya|| ukta kramät

guÿikam arkasutasya bhägaàjéväàçakaà tu yamakaëöakamämananti|

ardhaprahäramaruëädi dineñu veda çailäkñibäëa vasuvahni guhänanäàçät|| I hope

this helps you. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. aokedia

wrote: Dear Rath and Rao PVR RAM KRISHN HARE Your views about Gulik etc.

rising at the end of respective part of planet are wrong.BPHS(Mumbai) clearly

states that it is at the begining.Even common sense shows that if it is ending

moment,then Gulikoday and Gulik-ast will be same.So how will you justify

"Shanyansho Gulik:" Thanks Anilkumar OM TAT SAT

***************************Note: Narasimha has changed his views and now

considers ending moment ofrespective part for upgrah calculation instead of

bigining or middle part.---Six upagrahas called Kaala, Mrityu, Arthaprahaara,

Yamaghantaka, Gulika and Maandi are more difficult to compute. Kaala is a

malefic upagraha similar to Sun. Mrityu is a malefic upagraha similar to Mars.

Arthaprahaara is

similar to Mercury. Yamaghantaka is similar to Jupiter. Gulika and Maandi are

similar to Saturn.A day starts at the time of sunrise and ends at the time of

sunset. A night starts at the time of sunset and ends at the time of next day's

sunrise. Depending on whether one is born during the day or the night, we divide

the length of the day/night into 8 equal parts.Daytime births: The first part is

ruled by the lord of weekday and then we cover planets in the order of weekdays.

The part after the one ruled by Saturn is lord-less. After that, Sun's part

comes. For example, the first 1/8th of the daytime on a Thursday is ruled by

Jupiter. Next part is ruled by Venus. The 3rd part is ruled by Saturn. The 4th

part is lord-less. The 5th part is ruled by Sun. The 6th part is ruled by Moon.

The 7th planet is ruled by Mars. The 8th part is ruled by Mercury.Table 7:

Ruling planetsRulers of the 8 parts of the

DAYWeekday 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8thSun

Sun Moon Mars Merc Jup Ven Sat —Mon

Moon Mars Merc Jup Ven Sat — SunTue Mars

Merc Jup Ven

Sat — Sun MoonWed Merc Jup Ven Sat —

Sun Moon MarsThu Jup Ven Sat — Sun Moon

Mars MercFri Ven Sat — Sun Moon Mars

Merc JupSat

Sat — Sun Moon Mars Merc Jup VenRulers of the

8 parts of the NIGHTWeekday 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th

7th 8thSun Jup Ven Sat — Sun Moon Mars

MercMon Ven Sat — Sun

Moon Mars Merc JupTue Sat — Sun Moon

Mars Merc Jup VenWed Sun Moon Mars Merc

Jup Ven Sat —Thu Moon Mars Merc Jup Ven

Sat — SunFri

Mars Merc Jup Ven Sat — Sun MoonSat Merc

Jup Ven Sat — Sun Moon MarsNight time births:

The first part is ruled by the 5th planet from the lord of weekday and then we

cover planets in the order of weekdays. For example, the first 1/8th of a

Thursday night is ruled by the 5th planet from Jupiter, i.e. Moon (Jupiter,

Venus, Saturn, Sun, Moon – that's the 5th one). Next part is ruled by Mars. The

3rd part is ruled by Mercury. The 4th part is ruled by Jupiter. The 5th part is

ruled by Venus. The 6th part is ruled

by Saturn. The 7th planet is lord-less. The 8th part is ruled by Sun.Table 7

gives the list of the ruling planets of all the eight parts of the daytime and

night time on all weekdays.Once we divide the day/night of birth into 8 equal

parts and identify the ruling planets of the 8 parts, we can find the

longitudes of Kaala etc upagrahas using the following procedure:(1) Kaala

rises at the middle of Sun's part. In other words, we find the time at the

middle of Sun's part and find lagna rising then. That gives Kaala's

longitude.(1) Mrityu rises at the middle of Mars's part.(1) Artha

Praharaka rises at the middle of Mercury's part.(1) Yama Ghantaka rises at

the middle of Jupiter's part.(1) Gulika rises at the middle of Saturn's

part.(1)

Maandi rises at the beginning of Saturn's part.Suppose one is born on Thursday

night and we want Yamaghantaka's longitude in his chart. Suppose night starts

at 6 pm and ends at 6 am on the next day. We see from the table that Jupiter

rules the 4th part of a Thursday night. Each part is 12/8 = 1.5 hours. The 4th

part starts 4.5 hours after sunset, i.e. at 10:30 pm, and ends 1.5 hours later.

So Jupiter's part extends from 10:30 pm to midnight. The middle point of this

part is at 11:15 pm. We find lagna rising at 11:15 pm and that will be Yama

Ghantaka's longitude.For more information, please refer to "Vedic Astrology: An

Integrated Approach" by P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, from which the above material is

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