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Dear Ramesh,

Guru in his own Navamsha ie., either Dhanu or Meena Navamsha and must be in

Mridvamsha or Gopuramsha and must be aspected by another benefic.Mridvamsha is

19th part in Shastyamsha chart for odd signs and 42nd part in case of even

signs.If the all the above conditions are satisfied,then such a person will

have the power of telling the past,present and future.

I hope this helps you.

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Dear Ramadas Ji

 

You said Mridwamsa or Gopuramsa. Gopuramsa is a vaisheshikamsa, thus

do you mean that Guru even if not in Mridwamsa can be in Gopuramsa?,

because i have this combination of Guru in dhanu navamsa, and also in

gopuramsa.

best wishes

partha

 

 

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benefic.Mridvamsha is 19th part in Shastyamsha chart for odd signs

and 42nd part in case of even signs.If the all the above conditions

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Dear Rameashji,

Jupiter in mrudvamsha,in own navamsa sign or in gopuramsha

aspected by a benefic planet gives trikalagnana yoga .

(sarvartachintamani 5/53) .

 

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Satya Kuruvilla

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ramadas ji, Parthaji,

Can u please explain how u see the Mridwamsa or Gopuramsa.

Regards

Souvik

 

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> Dear Ramadas Ji

>

> You said Mridwamsa or Gopuramsa. Gopuramsa is a vaisheshikamsa,

thus

> do you mean that Guru even if not in Mridwamsa can be in

Gopuramsa?,

> because i have this combination of Guru in dhanu navamsa, and also

in

> gopuramsa.

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

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> > Dear Ramesh,

> > Guru in his own Navamsha ie., either Dhanu or Meena Navamsha and

> must be in Mridvamsha or Gopuramsha and must be aspected by another

> benefic.Mridvamsha is 19th part in Shastyamsha chart for odd signs

> and 42nd part in case of even signs.If the all the above conditions

> are satisfied,then such a person will have the power of telling the

> past,present and future.

> > I hope this helps you.

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> > Ramadas Rao.

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Dear Souvik

 

Mridwamsa is a shastiamsa just like many other shastiamsas. A

shastiamsa is 1/60th division of a rasi chart. There are different

names allotted to the shastiamsas. Examples such as Ghora,

Dandayuddha, Chandrarekha, etc.

 

Gopuramsa is a Vaisheshikamsa just like Uttamamsa, Simhasanamsa,

parijatmsa, etc.

This is obtained by counting the number of times a planet is placed

in own, exaltation or a moolatrikona sign in the Dasa varga scheme.

The dasa vargas are d-1(Rasi), d-2(hora), d-3(dreshkana), d-7

(Saptamsa), d-9(navamsa), d-10(dasamsa), d-12(dwadasamsa), d-16

(shodasamsa), d-30(trimsamsa), d-60(Shastiamsa).

 

Now a count of 2 indicates parijatamsa, 3 indicates Uttamamsa, and so

on.

 

Regards

partha

 

 

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wrote:

> Dear Ramadas ji, Parthaji,

> Can u please explain how u see the Mridwamsa or Gopuramsa.

> Regards

> Souvik

>

> vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

> <partvinu5> wrote:

> > Dear Ramadas Ji

> >

> > You said Mridwamsa or Gopuramsa. Gopuramsa is a vaisheshikamsa,

> thus

> > do you mean that Guru even if not in Mridwamsa can be in

> Gopuramsa?,

> > because i have this combination of Guru in dhanu navamsa, and

also

> in

> > gopuramsa.

> > best wishes

> > partha

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

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> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > > Guru in his own Navamsha ie., either Dhanu or Meena Navamsha

and

> > must be in Mridvamsha or Gopuramsha and must be aspected by

another

> > benefic.Mridvamsha is 19th part in Shastyamsha chart for odd

signs

> > and 42nd part in case of even signs.If the all the above

conditions

> > are satisfied,then such a person will have the power of telling

the

> > past,present and future.

> > > I hope this helps you.

> > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> > > Ramadas Rao.

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Dear Souvik Ji,

In Shastyamsha chart, we have 60 deities.A Shastyamsha is one - sixtieth

division of a sign or Rashi measuring half deree or 30' arc.So there are

atotal of 1800 Shastyamshas in a chart with sixty in eash Rashi.If you have

BPHS, it gives the names of all Shastyamsha Deities with longitudes in a Rashi.

Regarding Gopuramsha,this indicates a planet's position in different Vargas. In

Dasa Varga ( 10 ) system,if a planet is in his Swakshetra or Moola Trikona or

Exalted Rashi in 2 Vargas,then it is called Parijatamsha. If in 3 Vargas, it is

called Uttamamasha, If in 4 Vargas, it is called Gopuramsha, If in 5 Vargas, it

is called Simasanamsha, if in 6 Vargas, it is called Paaraavatamsha,if in 7

Vargas, it is called Devalokamsha, if in 8 Vargas, then it is called

Brahmalokamsha, if in 9 Vargas, then it is called Airavatamsha and if in 10

Vargas, it is called Shridharamsha.So if a planet gets higher vargas, it is

considered as Auspicious.

I hope this helps you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.OM <explore_vulcan > wrote:

Dear Ramadas ji, Parthaji,Can u please explain how u see the Mridwamsa or

Gopuramsa.RegardsSouvikvedic astrology, "V.Partha

sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:> Dear Ramadas Ji> > You said Mridwamsa or

Gopuramsa. Gopuramsa is a vaisheshikamsa, thus > do you mean that Guru even if

not in Mridwamsa can be in Gopuramsa?, > because i have this combination of

Guru in dhanu navamsa, and also in > gopuramsa.> best wishes> partha> > > ---

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> ` nmae naray[ay,> > > > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Ramesh,> > Guru in his own

Navamsha ie., either Dhanu or Meena Navamsha and > must be in Mridvamsha

or Gopuramsha and must be aspected by another > benefic.Mridvamsha is 19th part

in Shastyamsha chart for odd signs > and 42nd part in case of even signs.If the

all the above conditions > are satisfied,then such a person will have the power

of telling the > past,present and future.> > I hope this helps you.> > With

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Dear Partha, I made it very clear.Mridvamsha is Shastyamsha.Gopuramsha is Varga

Vaisheshikamsha.In my chart Guru is in Yaksha Shastyamsha and also in

Gopuramsha.

I hope this helps you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao."V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu5 > wrote:

Dear Ramadas JiYou said Mridwamsa or Gopuramsa. Gopuramsa is a vaisheshikamsa,

thus do you mean that Guru even if not in Mridwamsa can be in Gopuramsa?,

because i have this combination of Guru in dhanu navamsa, and also in

gopuramsa.best wishesparthavedic astrology, Ramadas Rao

<ramadasrao> wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> Dear

Ramesh,> Guru in his own Navamsha ie., either Dhanu or Meena Navamsha and must

be in Mridvamsha or Gopuramsha and must be aspected by another

benefic.Mridvamsha is 19th part in Shastyamsha chart for odd signs and 42nd

part in case of even signs.If the all the above conditions are satisfied,then

such a person will have the power of telling the past,present and future.> I

hope this helps

you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > ssz_dreams

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Namaste friends,

 

It is useful to understand the meanings of yogas and the logic behind their

formulas. Really special yogas like Trikala Jnaana Yoga (combination for the

knowledge of past, present and future) are extremely rare. But some people have

similar combinations that may give results to a lesser degree.

 

Basically, Jupiter - the ruler of aakaasa tattva and significator of dhee

(intellect) - is the planet who shows the ability to see past, present and

future. He is the planet who makes you see the unseen. He is the planet of

wisdom, discretion and judgment.

 

Jupiter's navamsa and shashtyamsa are particularly important. Navamsa shows the

dharma represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa shows the overall "karma"

represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa of a planet shows those actions of the

past lives for which the fruits are given by thwe planet in this life.

 

Even if the gopuramsa condition holds, I will be surprised if one will really be

a Trikalajna if one's Jupiter was in a negative shashtyamsa like Rakshasa

(demon) or Bhrashta (fallen). Jupiter being in an auspicious shashtyamsa is the

key.

 

I don't know anybody who has the exact yoga (nor do I know any Trikalajnas in

real life), but I know some people who come close. For exxample, consider Sri

B. Suryanarain Rao, the reverred grandfather of Dr. B.V. Raman. He was a great

scholar and was the force behind Dr. Raman and moulded him in his formative

years. He was a great astrologer by the available accounts. His chart as given

by Dr. Raman (not rectified by me, but we are not talking about shashtyamsa

lagna here anyway and we don't need the exact birthtime) is:

 

12th February 1856, 12:21 pm (LMT), 84 E 00' 00", 18 N 00' 00"

He had Jupiter in Pisces in navamsa. Jupiter was in Sudhaamsa. Please note that

Sudhaa is a highly benefic shahstyamsa like Mridu. Thus, Jupiter represents

highly saattwik, excellent and beneficial karma from past lives. He gives the

results of such karma. Thus, the native has excellent vaagbala.

 

I myself have Jupiter in Sg in navamsa and in Komalaamsa in shashtyamsa. Komala

and Mridu basically mean the same thing - soft, tender and sweet. Of course, I

am definitely not a Trikaalajna, but I guess I have some latent potential.

However, Sg navamsa (IMHO) is not as good as Pi navamsa for this yoga. Watery

signs are better than fiery signs for the purpose of intuition. So Jupiter in

Pi navamsa in Sri Suryanarain Rao's chart is much better than my Jupiter in Sg

navamsa. In Sri Suryanarain Rao's case, Mars is the only planet aspecting

Jupiter and he is in Devaamsa (i.e. Mars represents some godly karma of past

lives). Thus, his aspect on Jupiter is beneficial. I have Jupiter in Sg

afflicted by a whole bunch of planets in dual signs in navamsa and things are

different in my case.

 

The point I want to make is that the exact yoga may not apply, but it may apply

to a lesser degree in some cases. But there are fine judgments to be made based

on the individual case, as I showed abobve. Out of the charts I have checked,

Sri Suryanarain Rao comes the closest to being a Trikaalajna.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha

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Dear Friends,

Please have a look at the attached chart.Debilited Retro Jupiter with

cancellation of debility and in Komala shastyamsa,in Pisces in Navamsa

and D60 and in Simhasna.She belives in astrology but is not into

astrology. She has precognitive dreams and hunches about others and

forthcoming events which do come true. She has blind faith in Shiv Ji

though Shiv Ji is not her Ista Devata but then Sadashiv is the deity for

Jupiter.

My question is that is there anything she can do like mantra jaap/prayers

or wear(She is wearing pukhraj and gold mangalsutra in the shape of Sun

with Shiv Ji and mritunjay mantra) to increase the power of Trikala Gyan.

Thanks,

With regards,

Jagmeet

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Dear Narasimha,

That is not a valid criteria i.e. we cannot use the shastyamsa devata of Jupiter

to indicate whether the native is a Trikaalagyna. Dr.B.V.Raman himself had

Jupiter in Yama shastyamsa, so can we say that he was not a trikaala gyani? In

fact he was a better astrologer than his own grandfather and so many others and

his predictions were very good. Jupiter will be in one shastyamsa for

considerable time eriod and this criteria you choose is not really working.

instead if we use the teachings of Jataka Parijatha and see the shastyamsa of

the 9th lord we will get an idea about the major direction and ability of the

person. On the other hand if we draw the shastyamsa chart, we find Dr Ramans

Jupiter placed in Sagittarius and this can be said to be an important

indicator.

In the chart of B Suryanarain Rao, Jupiter is in sudha shastyamsa but this does

not matter. It is the position of Saturn in Deva amsa which shows the ability

of Sri Suryanarain Rao (Deva means to enlighten). In D-60 Jupiter is placed in

Kumbha and is quite well placed. In your own chart, Jupiter maybe in Komala

shastyamsa but this does not matter as much as the position of ninth lord Venus

in Sarpa shastyamsa indicating the tenacity to take a lot of poison of this

world just like the sarpa shared the poison of Nilakantha Shiva. In your chart

Jupiter is in Taurus but is conjoined Ketu and that speaks volumes about your

Jyotish ability.

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com

 

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Trikala gyan yoga ,information required

Namaste friends,

 

It is useful to understand the meanings of yogas and the logic behind their

formulas. Really special yogas like Trikala Jnaana Yoga (combination for the

knowledge of past, present and future) are extremely rare. But some people have

similar combinations that may give results to a lesser degree.

 

Basically, Jupiter - the ruler of aakaasa tattva and significator of dhee

(intellect) - is the planet who shows the ability to see past, present and

future. He is the planet who makes you see the unseen. He is the planet of

wisdom, discretion and judgment.

 

Jupiter's navamsa and shashtyamsa are particularly important. Navamsa shows the

dharma represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa shows the overall "karma"

represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa of a planet shows those actions of the

past lives for which the fruits are given by thwe planet in this life.

 

Even if the gopuramsa condition holds, I will be surprised if one will really be

a Trikalajna if one's Jupiter was in a negative shashtyamsa like Rakshasa

(demon) or Bhrashta (fallen). Jupiter being in an auspicious shashtyamsa is the

key.

 

I don't know anybody who has the exact yoga (nor do I know any Trikalajnas in

real life), but I know some people who come close. For exxample, consider Sri

B. Suryanarain Rao, the reverred grandfather of Dr. B.V. Raman. He was a great

scholar and was the force behind Dr. Raman and moulded him in his formative

years. He was a great astrologer by the available accounts. His chart as given

by Dr. Raman (not rectified by me, but we are not talking about shashtyamsa

lagna here anyway and we don't need the exact birthtime) is:

 

12th February 1856, 12:21 pm (LMT), 84 E 00' 00", 18 N 00' 00"

He had Jupiter in Pisces in navamsa. Jupiter was in Sudhaamsa. Please note that

Sudhaa is a highly benefic shahstyamsa like Mridu. Thus, Jupiter represents

highly saattwik, excellent and beneficial karma from past lives. He gives the

results of such karma. Thus, the native has excellent vaagbala.

 

I myself have Jupiter in Sg in navamsa and in Komalaamsa in shashtyamsa. Komala

and Mridu basically mean the same thing - soft, tender and sweet. Of course, I

am definitely not a Trikaalajna, but I guess I have some latent potential.

However, Sg navamsa (IMHO) is not as good as Pi navamsa for this yoga. Watery

signs are better than fiery signs for the purpose of intuition. So Jupiter in

Pi navamsa in Sri Suryanarain Rao's chart is much better than my Jupiter in Sg

navamsa. In Sri Suryanarain Rao's case, Mars is the only planet aspecting

Jupiter and he is in Devaamsa (i.e. Mars represents some godly karma of past

lives). Thus, his aspect on Jupiter is beneficial. I have Jupiter in Sg

afflicted by a whole bunch of planets in dual signs in navamsa and things are

different in my case.

 

The point I want to make is that the exact yoga may not apply, but it may apply

to a lesser degree in some cases. But there are fine judgments to be made based

on the individual case, as I showed abobve. Out of the charts I have checked,

Sri Suryanarain Rao comes the closest to being a Trikaalajna.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha

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Namasthe!

 

Reciting Shani Mantra

(108 times) every day will be helpful. Gochara Saturn is transiting natal Moon.

 

The native is running Mercury

Dasa – Venus Bhukti. (I use Raman Ayanamsa).

 

Mercury, lord of the

11th and 3rd is placed in the 12th along with

Sun. He is aspected by Saturn and Jupiter. Saturn as the lord of the dustana,

in dustana is not advisable. Jupiter, as 5th and 8th lord,

is in the 6th. Venus is also the 3rd lord.

 

The native should be

careful with regard to her health.

 

Om

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Dear Friends,

Please have a look at the attached chart.Debilited

Retro Jupiter with

cancellation of debility and in Komala

shastyamsa,in Pisces in Navamsa

and D60 and in Simhasna.She belives in astrology

but is not into

astrology. She has precognitive dreams and hunches

about others and

forthcoming events which do come true. She has

blind faith in Shiv Ji

though Shiv Ji is not her Ista Devata but then

Sadashiv is the deity for

Jupiter.

My question is that is there anything she can do

like mantra jaap/prayers

or wear(She is wearing pukhraj and gold

mangalsutra in the shape of Sun

with Shiv Ji and mritunjay mantra) to increase the

power of Trikala Gyan.

Thanks,

With regards,

Jagmeet

 

 

 

 

|| Om

Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||

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Om Sri Gurubhyo Namah

Pranaam Sanjay,

 

I am glad about the giant strides being taken by SJC (Re: Announcement).

 

The combination for Trikala jnana was not mine. I was only commenting on the

combination given by Sri Ramadas Rao.

 

Having said that, I am not convinced by your suggestion of looking at the

shashtyamsa of only the 9th lord. Parasara clearly says that every house with

which a planet in a benefic/malefic shashtyamsa is associated (presumably by

ownership as well as occupancy) prospers/suffers. I see the shashtyamsa of a

planet as representative of the overall sanchita karma represented by that

planet. While the shashtyamsa of the 9th lord is important, it is not a

be-all-end-all.

 

In the case of Sri B. Suryanarain Rao, not only is the placement of 9th lord

Saturn in Devaamsa important, but the 5th house is wonderfully blessed by two

planets in highly benefic shashtyamsas. Mars in Devaamsa occupies it, while its

lord Mercury is in Vishnvamsa. So he received the fruits of some excellent godly

karma of past lives in the matter of scholarship. No wonder he was a great

scholar.

 

I am not sure of the exact basis of the combination given by Sri Ramadas Rao,

but I do find basis in BPHS for looking at the shashtyamsas of planets owning

and occupying various houses, not just the 9th lord. My knowledge on how to

judge various amsas w.r.t. various house owners and occupants may be imperfect,

but my basic understanding that they all have a role to play has clear support

from Parasara.

 

Regarding Dr. Raman's chart, what is wrong with Yamaamsa? I fail to understand

your point. What is not really working? Yama is a great knower of Brahma jnaana

(it is Yama who taught Brahma jnaana to Nachiketa!) and understands the nature

of Time. He not only understands the nature of Time, past, present and future,

but he has the responsibillity of maintaining dharma. Looking at Yama as death

is simplistic. Death is represented by Mrityu, son of Nirriti, and sibling of

Bhaya (fear). Yama is the maintainer of dharma and the keeper of Time. He

stands for cold, disciplined and impassionate adherence of dharma. Kindly give

some consideration to my points.

 

BTW, I am not in the business of judging astrologers and I am genuinely unsure

if your statement on Dr. Raman being a better astrologer than his grandfather

is correct. Nor is it an interesting or desirable discussion. Both were legends

in their own right. A few decades later, some astrologers will say that Pt.

Sanjay Rath was a better astrologer than Pt. Jagannath Rath. But I am sure you

do not feel the same way and consider Pt. Jagannath Rath a benchmark for all of

us, including you yourself.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha

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Sanjay Rath

'Narasimha P.V.R. Rao' ; vedic astrology

Saturday, May 01, 2004 10:19 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Trikala gyan yoga ,information required

::om namo bhagavate vâsudevâya::

Dear Narasimha,

That is not a valid criteria i.e. we cannot use the shastyamsa devata of Jupiter

to indicate whether the native is a Trikaalagyna. Dr.B.V.Raman himself had

Jupiter in Yama shastyamsa, so can we say that he was not a trikaala gyani? In

fact he was a better astrologer than his own grandfather and so many others and

his predictions were very good. Jupiter will be in one shastyamsa for

considerable time eriod and this criteria you choose is not really working.

instead if we use the teachings of Jataka Parijatha and see the shastyamsa of

the 9th lord we will get an idea about the major direction and ability of the

person. On the other hand if we draw the shastyamsa chart, we find Dr Ramans

Jupiter placed in Sagittarius and this can be said to be an important

indicator.

In the chart of B Suryanarain Rao, Jupiter is in sudha shastyamsa but this does

not matter. It is the position of Saturn in Deva amsa which shows the ability

of Sri Suryanarain Rao (Deva means to enlighten). In D-60 Jupiter is placed in

Kumbha and is quite well placed. In your own chart, Jupiter maybe in Komala

shastyamsa but this does not matter as much as the position of ninth lord Venus

in Sarpa shastyamsa indicating the tenacity to take a lot of poison of this

world just like the sarpa shared the poison of Nilakantha Shiva. In your chart

Jupiter is in Taurus but is conjoined Ketu and that speaks volumes about your

Jyotish ability.

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com

 

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net] Sunday, May 02, 2004

5:54 AMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re:

Trikala gyan yoga ,information required

Namaste friends,

 

It is useful to understand the meanings of yogas and the logic behind their

formulas. Really special yogas like Trikala Jnaana Yoga (combination for the

knowledge of past, present and future) are extremely rare. But some people have

similar combinations that may give results to a lesser degree.

 

Basically, Jupiter - the ruler of aakaasa tattva and significator of dhee

(intellect) - is the planet who shows the ability to see past, present and

future. He is the planet who makes you see the unseen. He is the planet of

wisdom, discretion and judgment.

 

Jupiter's navamsa and shashtyamsa are particularly important. Navamsa shows the

dharma represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa shows the overall "karma"

represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa of a planet shows those actions of the

past lives for which the fruits are given by thwe planet in this life.

 

Even if the gopuramsa condition holds, I will be surprised if one will really be

a Trikalajna if one's Jupiter was in a negative shashtyamsa like Rakshasa

(demon) or Bhrashta (fallen). Jupiter being in an auspicious shashtyamsa is the

key.

 

I don't know anybody who has the exact yoga (nor do I know any Trikalajnas in

real life), but I know some people who come close. For exxample, consider Sri

B. Suryanarain Rao, the reverred grandfather of Dr. B.V. Raman. He was a great

scholar and was the force behind Dr. Raman and moulded him in his formative

years. He was a great astrologer by the available accounts. His chart as given

by Dr. Raman (not rectified by me, but we are not talking about shashtyamsa

lagna here anyway and we don't need the exact birthtime) is:

 

12th February 1856, 12:21 pm (LMT), 84 E 00' 00", 18 N 00' 00"

He had Jupiter in Pisces in navamsa. Jupiter was in Sudhaamsa. Please note that

Sudhaa is a highly benefic shahstyamsa like Mridu. Thus, Jupiter represents

highly saattwik, excellent and beneficial karma from past lives. He gives the

results of such karma. Thus, the native has excellent vaagbala.

 

I myself have Jupiter in Sg in navamsa and in Komalaamsa in shashtyamsa. Komala

and Mridu basically mean the same thing - soft, tender and sweet. Of course, I

am definitely not a Trikaalajna, but I guess I have some latent potential.

However, Sg navamsa (IMHO) is not as good as Pi navamsa for this yoga. Watery

signs are better than fiery signs for the purpose of intuition. So Jupiter in

Pi navamsa in Sri Suryanarain Rao's chart is much better than my Jupiter in Sg

navamsa. In Sri Suryanarain Rao's case, Mars is the only planet aspecting

Jupiter and he is in Devaamsa (i.e. Mars represents some godly karma of past

lives). Thus, his aspect on Jupiter is beneficial. I have Jupiter in Sg

afflicted by a whole bunch of planets in dual signs in navamsa and things are

different in my case.

 

The point I want to make is that the exact yoga may not apply, but it may apply

to a lesser degree in some cases. But there are fine judgments to be made based

on the individual case, as I showed abobve. Out of the charts I have checked,

Sri Suryanarain Rao comes the closest to being a Trikaalajna.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha

[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjay, Narasimha, Ramadas, Partha and others involved in this,

 

Are trikaala gyanis only born and not made? Any views on this?

 

regards

HariSanjay Rath <guruji (AT) srath (DOT) com> wrote:

::om namo bhagavate vâsudevâya::

Dear Narasimha,

That is not a valid criteria i.e. we cannot use the shastyamsa devata of Jupiter

to indicate whether the native is a Trikaalagyna. Dr.B.V.Raman himself had

Jupiter in Yama shastyamsa, so can we say that he was not a trikaala gyani? In

fact he was a better astrologer than his own grandfather and so many others and

his predictions were very good. Jupiter will be in one shastyamsa for

considerable time eriod and this criteria you choose is not really working.

instead if we use the teachings of Jataka Parijatha and see the shastyamsa of

the 9th lord we will get an idea about the major direction and ability of the

person. On the other hand if we draw the shastyamsa chart, we find Dr Ramans

Jupiter placed in Sagittarius and this can be said to be an important

indicator.

In the chart of B Suryanarain Rao, Jupiter is in sudha shastyamsa but this does

not matter. It is the position of Saturn in Deva amsa which shows the ability

of Sri Suryanarain Rao (Deva means to enlighten). In D-60 Jupiter is placed in

Kumbha and is quite well placed. In your own chart, Jupiter maybe in Komala

shastyamsa but this does not matter as much as the position of ninth lord Venus

in Sarpa shastyamsa indicating the tenacity to take a lot of poison of this

world just like the sarpa shared the poison of Nilakantha Shiva. In your chart

Jupiter is in Taurus but is conjoined Ketu and that speaks volumes about your

Jyotish ability.

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com

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||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

Dear Prashanji,

Yes very true Prashanji, Even Bhakta can have trikaal drishti!! And if you

carefully look in my previous post you will find:-

" Trikaal Gyana is consider as a siddhi also which may be obtained by following

any path say Karma,Bhakti,Gyan Or (mainly) Yoga!! "

I think I have include bhakti also. Don't I !! And Ketu is showing mantra!!

Correct but I hope you know the defination of mantra " Mananat traayate iti

Mantrah Ushyate||" So think more deeply! And find Ketu's role more effectively!

I'm not expert but trying to add one main point of ketu to this discussion!!

That's all !! Be calm & think (Manana is different)!!

You says:-

"ju shows satwa, guru'sblessings. ketu may show mantra, tantra or occultic path orintuition."

This is also correct & I have mentioned also "So in short I'll say strong

Guru,Ketu,5,8,9,12 houses may create such yogas!!"

Prashantji,About you how you are confident that you are not going to get Trikaal

Gyaana!! The combination mentioned is only to have indications!! In my full mail

I mentioned importance of Guru!! (Pls comment on KRut & Sat with Diff. forms of

Gurus) I think you are not agree with the points which I mentioned very clearly

in mail!! So pls put your words on this subject! So as one can tink on that!! R

u totally agree with PVRji, and Sanjayji!! If yes they have use Guru as well as

9th lord in their mails! I just want to add few cents of ketu,5th & 12th

House(You an use 11th as its 4th from 8th but why I insist on 8th is if lagna

is weak very weak & suppose there is one good yoga how you major it!! How much

it can give!! So I include 8th which is a samadhi sthana which can be obtained

using any of 4 paths of spirituality And what is samadhi? Whether that person

will remain in boundries of Kaal or not?). And why I mentioned this combination

because in most of Saints charts you will find this combination in Rasi only.

(Prashantji, you know I'm learning yet about astro techniques used by you

people and I have asked you for help on nakshtra tatwa also Now if you help out

the people as early as you can you will go more closer to trikaal, also think on

measures that we have created) I'm not well versed in divisional charts so pls

forgive me!

So Pls don't take this as a different theory!! Or something else but to deliver

the things at once will be more useful rather than sending them one by one!!

Those who are not agree with Ketu's part they should tell thier opinions Even

if it's allowded I will request Sanjayji to put his opinion on this points!!

I hope my explanation may prove useful to you.

With warm regards,

Vinay Patwardhan

|| Raghuvir Smaran||

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna

Dear Ramadas,

Why wouldnt Jupiters exaltation in cancer- sign of moon/mind be

included.In early degrees Jupiter is vargottama and can be in many

vaishekamsas.?

Thank-you,

Lakshmi

For those interested , here is apost from SAnjay to Zoran wherein he

also speaks of past , present and future,,

Satyavadi Yoga

OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

 

Dear Zoran,

SATYA is very difficult to understand. Here we are limiting ourselves

to

"SATYAVADI YOGA" or one who will speak the truth.

 

1. Speech is to be studied from the second house, its lord and the

second

house from Mercury the significator of "Vaach" or speech. Association

of the

lords of trines with the second house from Lagna or Mercury gives

Vaach

siddhi or what the person says is fulfilled and thus such a person is

also

Satyavadi or truthful. However, Saturn and Mars are responsible for

untruthful speech whereas Jupiter and Venus for truthful speech.

 

2. Thus, the association of the second lord with Jupiter or Venus

makes

one truthful whereas the association with Saturn or Mars makes one

untruthful. By association I mean "Sambandha" and not merely the

ownership

of the second. For example, Sagittarius Lagna is said to be the most

truthful and straightforward although Saturn is the owner of the

second.

Thus mere ownership should not decide whether one is truthful or

otherwise.

The placement is important as well as the aspects and conjunctions on

the

second lord.

 

3. A few examples are cited here:-

i) Dr B V Raman the eminent Jyotish was able to predict the sequence

of

World War II as well as the outcome very accurately that gave him

world

fame. The second lord Jupiter is in Scorpio in a Martian sign and this

should give a yoga for being untruthful, yet the reverse occured.

Mercury is

in Leo and the second from it is Virgo. He worshipped Rajarajeshwari

or the

Sri Vidya and attained Vaach Siddhi. The Arudha of the second house

is in

Cancer showing that he shall have the power to speak about the future.

Nostradamus also worshipped the Moon for this power to see the future.

 

ii) A male born in Cancer Lagna has the Sun (2nd Lord) and Saturn in

the

8th house and is a chronic liar. Here the Sun is also in Scorpio

Navamsa

besides conjoining Saturn in Rasi. The Arudha of the second house is

in

Taurus with Rahu in it. Thus, the Yoga is complete. The ray of hope

is in

the aspect of Jupiter on the second as the Sun also conjoins Jupiter

in

Scorpio Navamsa. (DOB 16 Feb 1965, Cancer Lagna, Capricorn Navamsa

Lagna

21N28 84E01)

 

iii) Bhagavan Sri Krishna had the second Lord in Virgo in exaltation

conjoined Jupiter which is also the Arudha Lagna. The Arudha of the

second

house is also in Virgo with Jup-Merc or Guru-Sisya yoga. The Bhagavat

Gita

is the Greatest truth taught by Him and the only mantra in the Gita

is "Om

Tat Sat".

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | | Asc Moo | Mnd |

| HL | | | || | | Glk BL | GL |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | Mar |

| | | |

| | | Rah |

| | | |

| | | Ven |

|-------------| R A S I |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Ket | | Sun |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | | | Jup AL A2 |

| | Sat | | |

| | | | Mer |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

4. The points about the 9th house and tenth house are fine, but not

directly relevant. The tenth house can help us to "SEE" the truth.

Mercury

influenced by Jupiter is very good, especially in the Navamsa while

the

influence of the Moon or Venus on Mercury may not be good.

 

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

 

-

Zoran Radosavljevic <satya@E...>

<varahamihira >

Monday, April 03, 2000 12:10 AM

[Jagannath] Re: Satyavadi Yoga

Dear Jyotisha,

> I suppose,the significations of the lagna(atmakarak,navamsh lagna

or its

trines moon,etc..) would have a say on a person's character.

> As far as yogas are concerned,at the moment I 've thought of two

yogas.

> 1.Guru full dhristi to Budh

> 2.Lord of 9.house in 10.house, alongside with 10.house lord in

exaltation.

> Second house has a say on speech, but speech may be trutful, while

mind

not necessarily so. Or perhaps, I am wrong?

> Regards,

> Zoran

> Dear Jyotisha,

> > Here is a note I had received from someone...can't recollect.

Forwarding

> > it without editing and request you to apply yourself. Try to cull

out

the

> > combinations that make one a truthful person, which is a must to

be a

good

> > Jyotish. Bw sanjay Rath

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao>

wrote:

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> Dear Ramesh,

> Guru in his own Navamsha ie., either Dhanu or Meena Navamsha and

must be in Mridvamsha or Gopuramsha and must be aspected by another

benefic.Mridvamsha is 19th part in Shastyamsha chart for odd signs

and 42nd part in case of even signs.If the all the above conditions

are satisfied,then such a person will have the power of telling the

past,present and future.

> I hope this helps you.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

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Dear Sanjay,

Would mere Jupiter or 9th lord's Shashtyamsha indicate a trikaalagyani?

Would it not be necessary to have a strong Mercury,2nd house,

Saturn(already indicated by you. and Jupiter to make it all come through?

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

Sanjay Rath wrote:

 

> *::om namo bhagavate vâsudevâya::*

> Dear Narasimha,

> That is not a valid criteria i.e. we cannot use the shastyamsa devata

> of Jupiter to indicate whether the native is a Trikaalagyna.

> Dr.B.V.Raman himself had Jupiter in Yama shastyamsa, so can we say

> that he was not a trikaala gyani? In fact he was a better astrologer

> than his own grandfather and so many others and his predictions were

> very good. Jupiter will be in one shastyamsa for considerable time

> eriod and this criteria you choose is not really working. instead if

> we use the teachings of Jataka Parijatha and see the shastyamsa of the

> 9th lord we will get an idea about the major direction and ability of

> the person. On the other hand if we draw the shastyamsa chart, we find

> Dr Ramans Jupiter placed in Sagittarius and this can be said to be an

> important indicator.

> In the chart of B Suryanarain Rao, Jupiter is in sudha shastyamsa but

> this does not matter. It is the position of Saturn in Deva amsa which

> shows the ability of Sri Suryanarain Rao (Deva means to enlighten). In

> D-60 Jupiter is placed in Kumbha and is quite well placed. In your own

> chart, Jupiter maybe in Komala shastyamsa but this does not matter as

> much as the position of ninth lord Venus in Sarpa shastyamsa

> indicating the tenacity to take a lot of poison of this world just

> like the sarpa shared the poison of Nilakantha Shiva. In your chart

> Jupiter is in Taurus but is conjoined Ketu and that speaks volumes

> about your Jyotish ability.

> With best regards,

> Sanjay Rath

> SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

> Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com <http://srath.com/>

>

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> *Sent:* Sunday, May 02, 2004 5:54 AM

> *To:* vedic astrology

> *Subject:* [vedic astrology] Re: Trikala gyan yoga ,information required

>

> Namaste friends,

>

> It is useful to understand the meanings of yogas and the logic behind

> their formulas. Really special yogas like Trikala Jnaana Yoga

> (combination for the knowledge of past, present and future) are

> extremely rare. But some people have similar combinations that may

> give results to a lesser degree.

>

> Basically, Jupiter - the ruler of aakaasa tattva and significator of

> dhee (intellect) - is the planet who shows the ability to see past,

> present and future. He is the planet who makes you see the unseen. He

> is the planet of wisdom, discretion and judgment.

>

> Jupiter's navamsa and shashtyamsa are particularly important. Navamsa

> shows the dharma represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa shows the

> overall "karma" represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa of a planet

> shows those actions of the past lives for which the fruits are given

> by thwe planet in this life.

>

> Even if the gopuramsa condition holds, I will be surprised if one will

> really be a Trikalajna if one's Jupiter was in a negative shashtyamsa

> like Rakshasa (demon) or Bhrashta (fallen). Jupiter being in an

> auspicious shashtyamsa is the key.

>

> I don't know anybody who has the exact yoga (nor do I know any

> Trikalajnas in real life), but I know some people who come close. For

> exxample, consider Sri B. Suryanarain Rao, the reverred grandfather of

> Dr. B.V. Raman. He was a great scholar and was the force behind Dr.

> Raman and moulded him in his formative years. He was a great

> astrologer by the available accounts. His chart as given by Dr. Raman

> (not rectified by me, but we are not talking about shashtyamsa lagna

> here anyway and we don't need the exact birthtime) is:

>

> 12th February 1856, 12:21 pm (LMT), 84 E 00' 00", 18 N 00' 00"

>

> He had Jupiter in Pisces in navamsa. Jupiter was in Sudhaamsa. Please

> note that Sudhaa is a highly benefic shahstyamsa like Mridu. Thus,

> Jupiter represents highly saattwik, excellent and beneficial karma

> from past lives. He gives the results of such karma. Thus, the native

> has excellent vaagbala.

>

> I myself have Jupiter in Sg in navamsa and in Komalaamsa in

> shashtyamsa. Komala and Mridu basically mean the same thing - soft,

> tender and sweet. Of course, I am definitely not a Trikaalajna, but I

> guess I have some latent potential. However, Sg navamsa (IMHO) is not

> as good as Pi navamsa for this yoga. Watery signs are better than

> fiery signs for the purpose of intuition. So Jupiter in Pi navamsa in

> Sri Suryanarain Rao's chart is much better than my Jupiter in Sg

> navamsa. In Sri Suryanarain Rao's case, Mars is the only planet

> aspecting Jupiter and he is in Devaamsa (i.e. Mars represents some

> godly karma of past lives). Thus, his aspect on Jupiter is beneficial.

> I have Jupiter in Sg afflicted by a whole bunch of planets in dual

> signs in navamsa and things are different in my case.

>

> The point I want to make is that the exact yoga may not apply, but it

> may apply to a lesser degree in some cases. But there are fine

> judgments to be made based on the individual case, as I showed abobve.

> Out of the charts I have checked, Sri Suryanarain Rao comes the

> closest to being a Trikaalajna.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

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Dear Lakshmi, Namaste. Your point is good. I would think that Cancer navamsa is

better for intuition than even Sagittarius navamsa. Satyavadi yoga is about

speaking truth and also about what is spoken coming true. This is a relatively

easier yoga to have. Trikala Jnana means "knowledge" of past, present and

future (not necessarily linked to "speech"). It is not just about what is

spoken coming true. It is about "knowing" what comes true. It is a far more

powerful combination. May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha > Hare Krishna>

Dear Ramadas,> Why wouldnt Jupiters exaltation in cancer- sign of moon/mind be >

included.In early degrees Jupiter is vargottama and can be in many >

vaishekamsas.?> Thank-you,> Lakshmi> For those interested , here is apost from

SAnjay to Zoran wherein he > also speaks of past , present and future,,>

Satyavadi Yoga> OM VISHNAVE NAMAH> > Dear Zoran,> SATYA is very difficult to

understand. Here we are limiting ourselves > to> "SATYAVADI YOGA" or one who

will speak the truth.> > 1. Speech is to be studied from the second house, its

lord and the > second> house from Mercury the significator of "Vaach" or

speech. Association > of the> lords of trines with the second house from Lagna

or Mercury gives > Vaach> siddhi or what the person says is fulfilled and thus

such a person is > also> Satyavadi or truthful. However, Saturn and Mars are

responsible for> untruthful speech whereas Jupiter and Venus for truthful

speech.> > 2. Thus, the association of the second lord with Jupiter or Venus >

makes> one truthful whereas the association with Saturn or Mars makes one>

untruthful. By association I mean "Sambandha" and not merely the > ownership>

of the second. For example, Sagittarius Lagna is said to be the most> truthful

and straightforward although Saturn is the owner of the > second.> Thus mere

ownership should not decide whether one is truthful or > otherwise.> The

placement is important as well as the aspects and conjunctions on > the> second

lord.> > 3. A few examples are cited here:-> i) Dr B V Raman the eminent Jyotish

was able to predict the sequence > of> World War II as well as the outcome very

accurately that gave him > world> fame. The second lord Jupiter is in Scorpio

in a Martian sign and this> should give a yoga for being untruthful, yet the

reverse occured. > Mercury is> in Leo and the second from it is Virgo. He

worshipped Rajarajeshwari > or the> Sri Vidya and attained Vaach Siddhi. The

Arudha of the second house > is in> Cancer showing that he shall have the power

to speak about the future.> Nostradamus also worshipped the Moon for this power

to see the future.> > ii) A male born in Cancer Lagna has the Sun (2nd Lord)

and Saturn in > the> 8th house and is a chronic liar. Here the Sun is also in

Scorpio > Navamsa> besides conjoining Saturn in Rasi. The Arudha of the second

house is > in> Taurus with Rahu in it. Thus, the Yoga is complete. The ray of

hope > is in> the aspect of Jupiter on the second as the Sun also conjoins

Jupiter > in> Scorpio Navamsa. (DOB 16 Feb 1965, Cancer Lagna, Capricorn

Navamsa > Lagna> 21N28 84E01)> > iii) Bhagavan Sri Krishna had the second Lord

in Virgo in exaltation> conjoined Jupiter which is also the Arudha Lagna. The

Arudha of the > second> house is also in Virgo with Jup-Merc or Guru-Sisya

yoga. The Bhagavat > Gita> is the Greatest truth taught by Him and the only

mantra in the Gita > is "Om> Tat Sat".> >

+----------------------+> | | | | |> | | | Asc

Moo | Mnd |> | HL | | | || | | Glk BL | GL |> | | | | |>

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|> | | | Mar |> | | |

|> | | | Rah |> | | | |> | | | Ven |> |-------------| R A S I |-------------|>

| | | |> | | | |> | Ket | | Sun |> | | | |> | | | |>

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|> | | | | |> | | | |

Jup AL A2 |> | | Sat | | |> | | | | Mer |> | | | | |>

+----------------------+> > 4. The points

about the 9th house and tenth house are fine, but not> directly relevant. The

tenth house can help us to "SEE" the truth. > Mercury> influenced by Jupiter is

very good, especially in the Navamsa while > the> influence of the Moon or Venus

on Mercury may not be good.> > Best Wishes> Sanjay Rath

[Guest guest]

Dear Hari,

I think, besides being born with capacity to become a trikalagyani, one

must do sadhana and observe all the Yama and Niyama given by the

scriptures, to finally become one.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

 

Hari M wrote:

 

> ||Om Brihaspataye Namah||

>

> Dear Sanjay, Narasimha, Ramadas, Partha and others involved in this,

>

> Are trikaala gyanis only born and not made? Any views on this?

>

> regards

> Hari

>

> */Sanjay Rath <guruji/* wrote:

>

> *::om namo bhagavate vâsudevâya::*

> Dear Narasimha,

> That is not a valid criteria i.e. we cannot use the shastyamsa

> devata of Jupiter to indicate whether the native is a

> Trikaalagyna. Dr.B.V.Raman himself had Jupiter in Yama shastyamsa,

> so can we say that he was not a trikaala gyani? In fact he was a

> better astrologer than his own grandfather and so many others and

> his predictions were very good. Jupiter will be in one shastyamsa

> for considerable time eriod and this criteria you choose is not

> really working. instead if we use the teachings of Jataka

> Parijatha and see the shastyamsa of the 9th lord we will get an

> idea about the major direction and ability of the person. On the

> other hand if we draw the shastyamsa chart, we find Dr Ramans

> Jupiter placed in Sagittarius and this can be said to be an

> important indicator.

> In the chart of B Suryanarain Rao, Jupiter is in sudha shastyamsa

> but this does not matter. It is the position of Saturn in Deva

> amsa which shows the ability of Sri Suryanarain Rao (Deva means to

> enlighten). In D-60 Jupiter is placed in Kumbha and is quite well

> placed. In your own chart, Jupiter maybe in Komala shastyamsa but

> this does not matter as much as the position of ninth lord Venus

> in Sarpa shastyamsa indicating the tenacity to take a lot of

> poison of this world just like the sarpa shared the poison of

> Nilakantha Shiva. In your chart Jupiter is in Taurus but is

> conjoined Ketu and that speaks volumes about your Jyotish ability.

> With best regards,

> Sanjay Rath

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Hare Krishna

Dear Gurus,

No doubt abilities to see past , present and future are linked to

previous lifes austerites and realizations and/or blessings from the

guru.The Vedic Literatures are filled with numerous accounts of

yogis, great personalities, and the austerites and rituals they

perform to achieve various siddhis,powers etc.

Anyone who has thought deeply in this area im interested in hearing

about their ideas/knowledge.

I would like to hear your ideas on Trikala gyan yoga and

other sidhhis in reference to analyzing the Siddhamsa chart-

How do we look for siddhis impeticular in the D-24? What is the AK

role in D-24, it must have a great impact.

Just like we have learned so much from Sanjay and Robert Koch

regarding VimsamsaD-20 chart analysis, it would be nice to now dive

into the various levels of D-24,etc.

This might be a nice class for a future conference as there isnt

much material out there on such a topic.

Ive attached my rasi,navasma and siddhamsa chart below if anyone

would like to attempt an analysis, i would be curious what you can

say.

Thank-you,

Lakshmi Kary

Rasi

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ JupR / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ket \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|AL x Asc x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 3 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| x Mar |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|HL \ / \ / |

|Moo Sat x Rah x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ven \ / Sun \ |

| / \ / Mer GL \ |

+--------------+

 

Navamsa

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ GL / \ Mnd / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Mer \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|JupR Rah x HL Asc x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Sat / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 2 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| x AL |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Mar x Ven x Ket Sun |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Moo \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

 

Siddhamsa D-24

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ Mnd / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Sat \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Mer Ven x Ket Asc HL x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Rah / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / JupR \ 2 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Sun x |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Moo AL x GL x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / Mar \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr@c...> wrote:

> Dear Lakshmi,

>

> Namaste. Your point is good. I would think that Cancer navamsa is

better for intuition than even Sagittarius navamsa.

>

> Satyavadi yoga is about speaking truth and also about what is

spoken coming true. This is a relatively easier yoga to have. Trikala

Jnana means "knowledge" of past, present and future (not necessarily

linked to "speech"). It is not just about what is spoken coming true.

It is about "knowing" what comes true. It is a far more powerful

combination.

>

> May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> Narasimha

>

> > Hare Krishna

> > Dear Ramadas,

> > Why wouldnt Jupiters exaltation in cancer- sign of moon/mind be

> > included.In early degrees Jupiter is vargottama and can be in

many

> > vaishekamsas.?

> > Thank-you,

> > Lakshmi

> > For those interested , here is apost from SAnjay to Zoran wherein

he

> > also speaks of past , present and future,,

> > Satyavadi Yoga

> > OM VISHNAVE NAMAH

> >

> > Dear Zoran,

> > SATYA is very difficult to understand. Here we are limiting

ourselves

> > to

> > "SATYAVADI YOGA" or one who will speak the truth.

> >

> > 1. Speech is to be studied from the second house, its lord and

the

> > second

> > house from Mercury the significator of "Vaach" or speech.

Association

> > of the

> > lords of trines with the second house from Lagna or Mercury gives

> > Vaach

> > siddhi or what the person says is fulfilled and thus such a

person is

> > also

> > Satyavadi or truthful. However, Saturn and Mars are responsible

for

> > untruthful speech whereas Jupiter and Venus for truthful speech.

> >

> > 2. Thus, the association of the second lord with Jupiter or Venus

> > makes

> > one truthful whereas the association with Saturn or Mars makes one

> > untruthful. By association I mean "Sambandha" and not merely the

> > ownership

> > of the second. For example, Sagittarius Lagna is said to be the

most

> > truthful and straightforward although Saturn is the owner of the

> > second.

> > Thus mere ownership should not decide whether one is truthful or

> > otherwise.

> > The placement is important as well as the aspects and

conjunctions on

> > the

> > second lord.

> >

> > 3. A few examples are cited here:-

> > i) Dr B V Raman the eminent Jyotish was able to predict the

sequence

> > of

> > World War II as well as the outcome very accurately that gave him

> > world

> > fame. The second lord Jupiter is in Scorpio in a Martian sign and

this

> > should give a yoga for being untruthful, yet the reverse occured.

> > Mercury is

> > in Leo and the second from it is Virgo. He worshipped

Rajarajeshwari

> > or the

> > Sri Vidya and attained Vaach Siddhi. The Arudha of the second

house

> > is in

> > Cancer showing that he shall have the power to speak about the

future.

> > Nostradamus also worshipped the Moon for this power to see the

future.

> >

> > ii) A male born in Cancer Lagna has the Sun (2nd Lord) and Saturn

in

> > the

> > 8th house and is a chronic liar. Here the Sun is also in Scorpio

> > Navamsa

> > besides conjoining Saturn in Rasi. The Arudha of the second house

is

> > in

> > Taurus with Rahu in it. Thus, the Yoga is complete. The ray of

hope

> > is in

> > the aspect of Jupiter on the second as the Sun also conjoins

Jupiter

> > in

> > Scorpio Navamsa. (DOB 16 Feb 1965, Cancer Lagna, Capricorn

Navamsa

> > Lagna

> > 21N28 84E01)

> >

> > iii) Bhagavan Sri Krishna had the second Lord in Virgo in

exaltation

> > conjoined Jupiter which is also the Arudha Lagna. The Arudha of

the

> > second

> > house is also in Virgo with Jup-Merc or Guru-Sisya yoga. The

Bhagavat

> > Gita

> > is the Greatest truth taught by Him and the only mantra in the

Gita

> > is "Om

> > Tat Sat".

> >

> > +----------------------+

> > | | | | |

> > | | | Asc Moo | Mnd |

> > | HL | | | || | | Glk BL | GL |

> > | | | | |

> > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> > | | | Mar |

> > | | | |

> > | | | Rah |

> > | | | |

> > | | | Ven |

> > |-------------| R A S I |-------------|

> > | | | |

> > | | | |

> > | Ket | | Sun |

> > | | | |

> > | | | |

> > |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> > | | | | |

> > | | | | Jup AL A2 |

> > | | Sat | | |

> > | | | | Mer |

> > | | | | |

> > +----------------------+

> >

> > 4. The points about the 9th house and tenth house are fine, but

not

> > directly relevant. The tenth house can help us to "SEE" the

truth.

> > Mercury

> > influenced by Jupiter is very good, especially in the Navamsa

while

> > the

> > influence of the Moon or Venus on Mercury may not be good.

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

[Guest guest]

sadgurudevaaye namah

 

dear vinay

first of all, plz dont add 'ji' as i m younger to u .

i really liked ur mail. but, i felt there should me something more

vital to it which is still missing in our discussion. yes, ofcourse

ketu is very important, nobody can deny it. afterall many yogas of

spirituality & tapasya are generated by ketu. because ketu is the

one running afetr amrit.

i just wanted to give u a practical exmaple how me having all these

combinations still havent experienced trikaal gyan. so may b i

cudn't grasp it so very easily. u may also b right abt the future.

in that case we need to verify our theories on saints charts to get

this theory verified.

yes, 11 is very important , also 2nd. because if u talk of

foresight, there has to b involvement of 2nd.

2,8,5,11 paraspar smbandha in this set will make the person acquire

siddhis of trikaal gyan. even if ketu is not involved with such

houses, it involvement as in grhan yoga along with presence of above

yoga would b suffice to grant the native such powers.

someone had posteda guy's chart with ketu in lagna with other

comb9nations who had divyadristi. it must b there in archives. that

was a good example, it was acquired fro past births.

anyways , we can discuss charts of yogis, if someone can post

regards

prashant

 

 

vedic astrology, "patwardhanvinay"

<patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote:

> ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

>

> Dear Prashanji,

>

> Yes very true Prashanji, Even Bhakta can have trikaal drishti!!

And if you carefully look in my previous post you will find:-

>

> " Trikaal Gyana is consider as a siddhi also which may be obtained

by following any path say Karma,Bhakti,Gyan Or (mainly) Yoga!! "

>

> I think I have include bhakti also. Don't I !! And Ketu is showing

mantra!! Correct but I hope you know the defination of mantra "

Mananat traayate iti Mantrah Ushyate||" So think more deeply! And

find Ketu's role more effectively! I'm not expert but trying to add

one main point of ketu to this discussion!! That's all !! Be calm &

think (Manana is different)!!

>

> You says:-

>

> "ju shows satwa, guru's

> blessings. ketu may show mantra, tantra or occultic path or

> intuition."

>

> This is also correct & I have mentioned also "So in short I'll say

strong Guru,Ketu,5,8,9,12 houses may create such yogas!!"

>

> Prashantji,About you how you are confident that you are not going

to get Trikaal Gyaana!! The combination mentioned is only to have

indications!! In my full mail I mentioned importance of Guru!! (Pls

comment on KRut & Sat with Diff. forms of Gurus) I think you are not

agree with the points which I mentioned very clearly in mail!! So

pls put your words on this subject! So as one can tink on that!! R u

totally agree with PVRji, and Sanjayji!! If yes they have use Guru

as well as 9th lord in their mails! I just want to add few cents of

ketu,5th & 12th House(You an use 11th as its 4th from 8th but why I

insist on 8th is if lagna is weak very weak & suppose there is one

good yoga how you major it!! How much it can give!! So I include 8th

which is a samadhi sthana which can be obtained using any of 4 paths

of spirituality And what is samadhi? Whether that person will remain

in boundries of Kaal or not?). And why I mentioned this combination

because in most of Saints charts you will find this combination in

Rasi only. (Prashantji, you know I'm learning yet about astro

techniques used by you people and I have asked you for help on

nakshtra tatwa also Now if you help out the people as early as you

can you will go more closer to trikaal, also think on measures that

we have created) I'm not well versed in divisional charts so pls

forgive me!

>

> So Pls don't take this as a different theory!! Or something else

but to deliver the things at once will be more useful rather than

sending them one by one!! Those who are not agree with Ketu's part

they should tell thier opinions Even if it's allowded I will request

Sanjayji to put his opinion on this points!!

>

> I hope my explanation may prove useful to you.

>

> With warm regards,

>

> Vinay Patwardhan

>

> || Raghuvir Smaran||

[Guest guest]

sadgurudevaaye namah

one more thing i forgot to mention, it is paraspar smbandha between

the houses that decides the kind of results,. for example if 5 & 8th

r related, then ur partener will cheat u.(11 & 2nd respectively from

7th house);if 12 th is related too, then gain of partener, ur loss

is ceratin. if 5 & 12 r related, then it can make u highly

passionate. it will have spiritual meaning too. purva punya taking

towards moksha.wherever 5th is connected to, it will spend ur purva

punya on those house significations.

occultism would b 11th. if this get connected to 2nd, then that

occultic study woould give u a foresight to see(cum tell) future. if

these planets r posited in 8th, it would promote occultism being in

8th(10th from 11), also it would aspect 2nd, hence gives a foresight

apart from vacha sidhhi.

others plz correct me, if i m wrong ....

regards

prashant

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "prashantnarang"

<prashantnarang> wrote:

> sadgurudevaaye namah

>

> dear vinay

> first of all, plz dont add 'ji' as i m younger to u .

> i really liked ur mail. but, i felt there should me something more

> vital to it which is still missing in our discussion. yes,

ofcourse

> ketu is very important, nobody can deny it. afterall many yogas of

> spirituality & tapasya are generated by ketu. because ketu is the

> one running afetr amrit.

> i just wanted to give u a practical exmaple how me having all

these

> combinations still havent experienced trikaal gyan. so may b i

> cudn't grasp it so very easily. u may also b right abt the future.

> in that case we need to verify our theories on saints charts to

get

> this theory verified.

> yes, 11 is very important , also 2nd. because if u talk of

> foresight, there has to b involvement of 2nd.

> 2,8,5,11 paraspar smbandha in this set will make the person

acquire

> siddhis of trikaal gyan. even if ketu is not involved with such

> houses, it involvement as in grhan yoga along with presence of

above

> yoga would b suffice to grant the native such powers.

> someone had posteda guy's chart with ketu in lagna with other

> comb9nations who had divyadristi. it must b there in archives.

that

> was a good example, it was acquired fro past births.

> anyways , we can discuss charts of yogis, if someone can post

> regards

> prashant

>

>

> vedic astrology, "patwardhanvinay"

> <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote:

> > ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||

> >

> > Dear Prashanji,

> >

> > Yes very true Prashanji, Even Bhakta can have trikaal drishti!!

> And if you carefully look in my previous post you will find:-

> >

> > " Trikaal Gyana is consider as a siddhi also which may be

obtained

> by following any path say Karma,Bhakti,Gyan Or (mainly) Yoga!! "

> >

> > I think I have include bhakti also. Don't I !! And Ketu is

showing

> mantra!! Correct but I hope you know the defination of mantra "

> Mananat traayate iti Mantrah Ushyate||" So think more deeply! And

> find Ketu's role more effectively! I'm not expert but trying to

add

> one main point of ketu to this discussion!! That's all !! Be calm

&

> think (Manana is different)!!

> >

> > You says:-

> >

> > "ju shows satwa, guru's

> > blessings. ketu may show mantra, tantra or occultic path or

> > intuition."

> >

> > This is also correct & I have mentioned also "So in short I'll

say

> strong Guru,Ketu,5,8,9,12 houses may create such yogas!!"

> >

> > Prashantji,About you how you are confident that you are not

going

> to get Trikaal Gyaana!! The combination mentioned is only to have

> indications!! In my full mail I mentioned importance of Guru!!

(Pls

> comment on KRut & Sat with Diff. forms of Gurus) I think you are

not

> agree with the points which I mentioned very clearly in mail!! So

> pls put your words on this subject! So as one can tink on that!! R

u

> totally agree with PVRji, and Sanjayji!! If yes they have use Guru

> as well as 9th lord in their mails! I just want to add few cents

of

> ketu,5th & 12th House(You an use 11th as its 4th from 8th but why

I

> insist on 8th is if lagna is weak very weak & suppose there is one

> good yoga how you major it!! How much it can give!! So I include

8th

> which is a samadhi sthana which can be obtained using any of 4

paths

> of spirituality And what is samadhi? Whether that person will

remain

> in boundries of Kaal or not?). And why I mentioned this

combination

> because in most of Saints charts you will find this combination in

> Rasi only. (Prashantji, you know I'm learning yet about astro

> techniques used by you people and I have asked you for help on

> nakshtra tatwa also Now if you help out the people as early as you

> can you will go more closer to trikaal, also think on measures

that

> we have created) I'm not well versed in divisional charts so pls

> forgive me!

> >

> > So Pls don't take this as a different theory!! Or something else

> but to deliver the things at once will be more useful rather than

> sending them one by one!! Those who are not agree with Ketu's part

> they should tell thier opinions Even if it's allowded I will

request

> Sanjayji to put his opinion on this points!!

> >

> > I hope my explanation may prove useful to you.

> >

> > With warm regards,

> >

> > Vinay Patwardhan

> >

> > || Raghuvir Smaran||

[Guest guest]

Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Chandrasekharji,

 

Perhaps Jupiter is important for trikaala gyana yoga because he

aspects 5th (Future) and 9th (past) houses from his situation

(present). Rahu also might give this kind of ability, provided there

is the aspect of a strong Jupiter for ensuring that the "vision" is

one of gyana and not a hallucination.

 

A connection between 1st, 5th and 9th houses and a strong Jupiter in

the chart may also result in trikaala gyana yoga but perhaps this

needs to be reconfirmed from D-24 chart.

 

Just my two pennies :--))

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote:

> Dear Sanjay,

> Would mere Jupiter or 9th lord's Shashtyamsha indicate a

trikaalagyani?

> Would it not be necessary to have a strong Mercury,2nd house,

> Saturn(already indicated by you. and Jupiter to make it all come

through?

> Regards,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Sanjay Rath wrote:

>

> > *::om namo bhagavate vâsudevâya::*

> > Dear Narasimha,

> > That is not a valid criteria i.e. we cannot use the shastyamsa

devata

> > of Jupiter to indicate whether the native is a Trikaalagyna.

> > Dr.B.V.Raman himself had Jupiter in Yama shastyamsa, so can we

say

> > that he was not a trikaala gyani? In fact he was a better

astrologer

> > than his own grandfather and so many others and his predictions

were

> > very good. Jupiter will be in one shastyamsa for considerable

time

> > eriod and this criteria you choose is not really working. instead

if

> > we use the teachings of Jataka Parijatha and see the shastyamsa

of the

> > 9th lord we will get an idea about the major direction and

ability of

> > the person. On the other hand if we draw the shastyamsa chart, we

find

> > Dr Ramans Jupiter placed in Sagittarius and this can be said to

be an

> > important indicator.

> > In the chart of B Suryanarain Rao, Jupiter is in sudha shastyamsa

but

> > this does not matter. It is the position of Saturn in Deva amsa

which

> > shows the ability of Sri Suryanarain Rao (Deva means to

enlighten). In

> > D-60 Jupiter is placed in Kumbha and is quite well placed. In

your own

> > chart, Jupiter maybe in Komala shastyamsa but this does not

matter as

> > much as the position of ninth lord Venus in Sarpa shastyamsa

> > indicating the tenacity to take a lot of poison of this world

just

> > like the sarpa shared the poison of Nilakantha Shiva. In your

chart

> > Jupiter is in Taurus but is conjoined Ketu and that speaks

volumes

> > about your Jyotish ability.

> > With best regards,

> > Sanjay Rath

> > SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

> > Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com <http://srath.com/>

> >

> >

> >

------

> > ** Narasimha P.V.R. Rao [pvr@c...]

> > *Sent:* Sunday, May 02, 2004 5:54 AM

> > *To:* vedic astrology

> > *Subject:* [vedic astrology] Re: Trikala gyan yoga ,information

required

> >

> > Namaste friends,

> >

> > It is useful to understand the meanings of yogas and the logic

behind

> > their formulas. Really special yogas like Trikala Jnaana Yoga

> > (combination for the knowledge of past, present and future) are

> > extremely rare. But some people have similar combinations that

may

> > give results to a lesser degree.

> >

> > Basically, Jupiter - the ruler of aakaasa tattva and significator

of

> > dhee (intellect) - is the planet who shows the ability to see

past,

> > present and future. He is the planet who makes you see the

unseen. He

> > is the planet of wisdom, discretion and judgment.

> >

> > Jupiter's navamsa and shashtyamsa are particularly important.

Navamsa

> > shows the dharma represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa shows the

> > overall "karma" represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa of a

planet

> > shows those actions of the past lives for which the fruits are

given

> > by thwe planet in this life.

> >

> > Even if the gopuramsa condition holds, I will be surprised if one

will

> > really be a Trikalajna if one's Jupiter was in a negative

shashtyamsa

> > like Rakshasa (demon) or Bhrashta (fallen). Jupiter being in an

> > auspicious shashtyamsa is the key.

> >

> > I don't know anybody who has the exact yoga (nor do I know any

> > Trikalajnas in real life), but I know some people who come close.

For

> > exxample, consider Sri B. Suryanarain Rao, the reverred

grandfather of

> > Dr. B.V. Raman. He was a great scholar and was the force behind

Dr.

> > Raman and moulded him in his formative years. He was a great

> > astrologer by the available accounts. His chart as given by Dr.

Raman

> > (not rectified by me, but we are not talking about shashtyamsa

lagna

> > here anyway and we don't need the exact birthtime) is:

> >

> > 12th February 1856, 12:21 pm (LMT), 84 E 00' 00", 18 N 00' 00"

> >

> > He had Jupiter in Pisces in navamsa. Jupiter was in Sudhaamsa.

Please

> > note that Sudhaa is a highly benefic shahstyamsa like Mridu.

Thus,

> > Jupiter represents highly saattwik, excellent and beneficial

karma

> > from past lives. He gives the results of such karma. Thus, the

native

> > has excellent vaagbala.

> >

> > I myself have Jupiter in Sg in navamsa and in Komalaamsa in

> > shashtyamsa. Komala and Mridu basically mean the same thing -

soft,

> > tender and sweet. Of course, I am definitely not a Trikaalajna,

but I

> > guess I have some latent potential. However, Sg navamsa (IMHO) is

not

> > as good as Pi navamsa for this yoga. Watery signs are better than

> > fiery signs for the purpose of intuition. So Jupiter in Pi

navamsa in

> > Sri Suryanarain Rao's chart is much better than my Jupiter in Sg

> > navamsa. In Sri Suryanarain Rao's case, Mars is the only planet

> > aspecting Jupiter and he is in Devaamsa (i.e. Mars represents

some

> > godly karma of past lives). Thus, his aspect on Jupiter is

beneficial.

> > I have Jupiter in Sg afflicted by a whole bunch of planets in

dual

> > signs in navamsa and things are different in my case.

> >

> > The point I want to make is that the exact yoga may not apply,

but it

> > may apply to a lesser degree in some cases. But there are fine

> > judgments to be made based on the individual case, as I showed

abobve.

> > Out of the charts I have checked, Sri Suryanarain Rao comes the

> > closest to being a Trikaalajna.

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Dear and respected members

 

My knowledge is limited to discuss these topics with the scholars in

you.Pls find my doubts and views on the above.

 

Similar to what Shri Ramadas ji has mentioned - Dr.B.V.Raman in

his '300 important combinations' describes the combinations for

Trikala Jnana as follows.

Jupiter should be in mriduvamsha( (19th part in shashtyamsha for odd

signs (longitude 9 to 9.5 degree) and 42nd part for even signs (20.5

to 21 degree longitudes in rashi) )and in own navamsha.Or attain

gopuramsha being aspected by a benefic planet.

Thus either of the conditions is sufficient.

Also Dr.Raman says, technically, simultaneous satisfaction, of this

mriduvamsha and swanavamsha, is possible only when jupiter is in

mithuna ,kumbha or thula rashis.

 

But i think Gopuramsha condition may not be a very rare one!

 

But is the individual aware of this njaana - is an important question

(though he posess it)?

 

Conditions 1) and 2) differ in quality to a certain extent.Because

attaining gopuramsha(condition 2) is not strictly dependent on

navamsha position or specific shastyamsha positions.If jupiter

attains gopuramsha by virtue of its position in various other

divisionals and provided there is a benefic aspect (as per my

conviction this aspect refers to the one which the said jupiter

recieves in rashi),then the 2nd condition is satisfied.

While condition 1) is checking for the purity/influence(to 0.5 degree

level) of/on jupiter at a very fine level.

 

Since both the conditions are acceptable - it means strength of

Jupiter in general ,is the main indicator of Trikala njana!

 

Rahu -Ketu axis - based on which houses they are - tries to create a

vortex or a black hole kind of effect, related to those houses .This

is why when Ketu is in a specific house it gives inclination to

spirituality,moksha etc.One is forced to move away or come close to

the indications of various houses - depending on the influence of

Rahu and Ketu.

 

Mercury makes one intelligent in understanding and expressing but the

real wisdom is Jupiter and may be thus the definition of

Trikalanjaana by sages in similar lines.

Also see that the special aspects from jupiter is again on the

concerned houses - 1,5,9 the trines representing the three

Njanas.Hence jupiter is the real man to look at.

Adding to Chandrashekhar ji's points - only by observing the

yamas ,niyamas,saadhana and having a never ending desire - will make

the divine eye of three njanas within oneself , open. Here may be

Ketu,9th lord,5th lord,mercury etc have a role to play.

 

My another doubt is range of shastiamshas fall within half a degree -

Hence one needs to be very sure about the time of birth to write off

any planet/horoscope? Am i right ?

 

I will be thankful if someone would be kind enough to send the list

and indications of various shashtyamshas.

 

Respect

Pradeep

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "B Lakshmi Ramesh"

<b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

> Om Gurave Namah

>

> Namaste Chandrasekharji,

>

> Perhaps Jupiter is important for trikaala gyana yoga because he

> aspects 5th (Future) and 9th (past) houses from his situation

> (present). Rahu also might give this kind of ability, provided

there

> is the aspect of a strong Jupiter for ensuring that the "vision" is

> one of gyana and not a hallucination.

>

> A connection between 1st, 5th and 9th houses and a strong Jupiter

in

> the chart may also result in trikaala gyana yoga but perhaps this

> needs to be reconfirmed from D-24 chart.

>

> Just my two pennies :--))

>

> Regards,

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

<boxdel>

> wrote:

> > Dear Sanjay,

> > Would mere Jupiter or 9th lord's Shashtyamsha indicate a

> trikaalagyani?

> > Would it not be necessary to have a strong Mercury,2nd house,

> > Saturn(already indicated by you. and Jupiter to make it all come

> through?

> > Regards,

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Sanjay Rath wrote:

> >

> > > *::om namo bhagavate vâsudevâya::*

> > > Dear Narasimha,

> > > That is not a valid criteria i.e. we cannot use the shastyamsa

> devata

> > > of Jupiter to indicate whether the native is a Trikaalagyna.

> > > Dr.B.V.Raman himself had Jupiter in Yama shastyamsa, so can we

> say

> > > that he was not a trikaala gyani? In fact he was a better

> astrologer

> > > than his own grandfather and so many others and his predictions

> were

> > > very good. Jupiter will be in one shastyamsa for considerable

> time

> > > eriod and this criteria you choose is not really working.

instead

> if

> > > we use the teachings of Jataka Parijatha and see the shastyamsa

> of the

> > > 9th lord we will get an idea about the major direction and

> ability of

> > > the person. On the other hand if we draw the shastyamsa chart,

we

> find

> > > Dr Ramans Jupiter placed in Sagittarius and this can be said to

> be an

> > > important indicator.

> > > In the chart of B Suryanarain Rao, Jupiter is in sudha

shastyamsa

> but

> > > this does not matter. It is the position of Saturn in Deva amsa

> which

> > > shows the ability of Sri Suryanarain Rao (Deva means to

> enlighten). In

> > > D-60 Jupiter is placed in Kumbha and is quite well placed. In

> your own

> > > chart, Jupiter maybe in Komala shastyamsa but this does not

> matter as

> > > much as the position of ninth lord Venus in Sarpa shastyamsa

> > > indicating the tenacity to take a lot of poison of this world

> just

> > > like the sarpa shared the poison of Nilakantha Shiva. In your

> chart

> > > Jupiter is in Taurus but is conjoined Ketu and that speaks

> volumes

> > > about your Jyotish ability.

> > > With best regards,

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > > SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

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> > >

> > > It is useful to understand the meanings of yogas and the logic

> behind

> > > their formulas. Really special yogas like Trikala Jnaana Yoga

> > > (combination for the knowledge of past, present and future) are

> > > extremely rare. But some people have similar combinations that

> may

> > > give results to a lesser degree.

> > >

> > > Basically, Jupiter - the ruler of aakaasa tattva and

significator

> of

> > > dhee (intellect) - is the planet who shows the ability to see

> past,

> > > present and future. He is the planet who makes you see the

> unseen. He

> > > is the planet of wisdom, discretion and judgment.

> > >

> > > Jupiter's navamsa and shashtyamsa are particularly important.

> Navamsa

> > > shows the dharma represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa shows

the

> > > overall "karma" represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa of a

> planet

> > > shows those actions of the past lives for which the fruits are

> given

> > > by thwe planet in this life.

> > >

> > > Even if the gopuramsa condition holds, I will be surprised if

one

> will

> > > really be a Trikalajna if one's Jupiter was in a negative

> shashtyamsa

> > > like Rakshasa (demon) or Bhrashta (fallen). Jupiter being in an

> > > auspicious shashtyamsa is the key.

> > >

> > > I don't know anybody who has the exact yoga (nor do I know any

> > > Trikalajnas in real life), but I know some people who come

close.

> For

> > > exxample, consider Sri B. Suryanarain Rao, the reverred

> grandfather of

> > > Dr. B.V. Raman. He was a great scholar and was the force behind

> Dr.

> > > Raman and moulded him in his formative years. He was a great

> > > astrologer by the available accounts. His chart as given by Dr.

> Raman

> > > (not rectified by me, but we are not talking about shashtyamsa

> lagna

> > > here anyway and we don't need the exact birthtime) is:

> > >

> > > 12th February 1856, 12:21 pm (LMT), 84 E 00' 00", 18 N 00' 00"

> > >

> > > He had Jupiter in Pisces in navamsa. Jupiter was in Sudhaamsa.

> Please

> > > note that Sudhaa is a highly benefic shahstyamsa like Mridu.

> Thus,

> > > Jupiter represents highly saattwik, excellent and beneficial

> karma

> > > from past lives. He gives the results of such karma. Thus, the

> native

> > > has excellent vaagbala.

> > >

> > > I myself have Jupiter in Sg in navamsa and in Komalaamsa in

> > > shashtyamsa. Komala and Mridu basically mean the same thing -

> soft,

> > > tender and sweet. Of course, I am definitely not a Trikaalajna,

> but I

> > > guess I have some latent potential. However, Sg navamsa (IMHO)

is

> not

> > > as good as Pi navamsa for this yoga. Watery signs are better

than

> > > fiery signs for the purpose of intuition. So Jupiter in Pi

> navamsa in

> > > Sri Suryanarain Rao's chart is much better than my Jupiter in

Sg

> > > navamsa. In Sri Suryanarain Rao's case, Mars is the only planet

> > > aspecting Jupiter and he is in Devaamsa (i.e. Mars represents

> some

> > > godly karma of past lives). Thus, his aspect on Jupiter is

> beneficial.

> > > I have Jupiter in Sg afflicted by a whole bunch of planets in

> dual

> > > signs in navamsa and things are different in my case.

> > >

> > > The point I want to make is that the exact yoga may not apply,

> but it

> > > may apply to a lesser degree in some cases. But there are fine

> > > judgments to be made based on the individual case, as I showed

> abobve.

> > > Out of the charts I have checked, Sri Suryanarain Rao comes the

> > > closest to being a Trikaalajna.

> > >

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> > > Narasimha

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Dear Narasimha Ji,

Thanks for the fantastic explanation about Trikala Jnaana Yoga.I dont know

whether I have this Yoga or not but in my chart Guru is in Vargothamamsha in

Meena and is in Yaksha Shastyamsha and this Guru in Rashi chart is aspected

Lagna/ 2nd lord Shani (V) who is in Brahma Shastyamsha.I hope you can analyse

this.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao."Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Namaste friends,

 

It is useful to understand the meanings of yogas and the logic behind their

formulas. Really special yogas like Trikala Jnaana Yoga (combination for the

knowledge of past, present and future) are extremely rare. But some people have

similar combinations that may give results to a lesser degree.

 

Basically, Jupiter - the ruler of aakaasa tattva and significator of dhee

(intellect) - is the planet who shows the ability to see past, present and

future. He is the planet who makes you see the unseen. He is the planet of

wisdom, discretion and judgment.

 

Jupiter's navamsa and shashtyamsa are particularly important. Navamsa shows the

dharma represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa shows the overall "karma"

represented by the planet. Shashtyamsa of a planet shows those actions of the

past lives for which the fruits are given by thwe planet in this life.

 

Even if the gopuramsa condition holds, I will be surprised if one will really be

a Trikalajna if one's Jupiter was in a negative shashtyamsa like Rakshasa

(demon) or Bhrashta (fallen). Jupiter being in an auspicious shashtyamsa is the

key.

 

I don't know anybody who has the exact yoga (nor do I know any Trikalajnas in

real life), but I know some people who come close. For exxample, consider Sri

B. Suryanarain Rao, the reverred grandfather of Dr. B.V. Raman. He was a great

scholar and was the force behind Dr. Raman and moulded him in his formative

years. He was a great astrologer by the available accounts. His chart as given

by Dr. Raman (not rectified by me, but we are not talking about shashtyamsa

lagna here anyway and we don't need the exact birthtime) is:

 

12th February 1856, 12:21 pm (LMT), 84 E 00' 00", 18 N 00' 00"

He had Jupiter in Pisces in navamsa. Jupiter was in Sudhaamsa. Please note that

Sudhaa is a highly benefic shahstyamsa like Mridu. Thus, Jupiter represents

highly saattwik, excellent and beneficial karma from past lives. He gives the

results of such karma. Thus, the native has excellent vaagbala.

 

I myself have Jupiter in Sg in navamsa and in Komalaamsa in shashtyamsa. Komala

and Mridu basically mean the same thing - soft, tender and sweet. Of course, I

am definitely not a Trikaalajna, but I guess I have some latent potential.

However, Sg navamsa (IMHO) is not as good as Pi navamsa for this yoga. Watery

signs are better than fiery signs for the purpose of intuition. So Jupiter in

Pi navamsa in Sri Suryanarain Rao's chart is much better than my Jupiter in Sg

navamsa. In Sri Suryanarain Rao's case, Mars is the only planet aspecting

Jupiter and he is in Devaamsa (i.e. Mars represents some godly karma of past

lives). Thus, his aspect on Jupiter is beneficial. I have Jupiter in Sg

afflicted by a whole bunch of planets in dual signs in navamsa and things are

different in my case.

 

The point I want to make is that the exact yoga may not apply, but it may apply

to a lesser degree in some cases. But there are fine judgments to be made based

on the individual case, as I showed abobve. Out of the charts I have checked,

Sri Suryanarain Rao comes the closest to being a Trikaalajna.

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Dear Lakshmi Ji,

Yes, we can add this also to the rules for Trikala Jnaana Yoga.I took the

information from Shri B.V.Raman's 300 important combinations.We can modify

after analysing many charts of Saints who had this Trikala Jnaana Yoga.

I hope this helps you.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.lakshmisyama <lakshmikary (AT) netzero (DOT) com> wrote:

Hare KrishnaDear Ramadas,Curious why Jup exaltation would be excluded?There he

is in thehouse of the moon (mind) and Jupiter in early degrees, is vargottamand

can also often has attained many vaishekamsas.Thank-youLakshmi Kary--- In

vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao wrote:>> ` nmae naray[ay,>> om

namo näräyaëäya|> Dear Ramesh,> Guru in his own Navamsha ie., either Dhanu or

Meena Navamsha andmust be in Mridvamsha or Gopuramsha and must be aspected by

anotherbenefic.Mridvamsha is 19th part in Shastyamsha chart for odd signsand

42nd part in case of even signs.If the all the above conditionsare

satisfied,then such a person will have the power of telling thepast,present and

future.> I hope this helps you.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,>

Ramadas Rao.>> ssz_dreams wrote:>> hi, does anybody know abt trikalagyan

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