Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 || Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| All Gurus & learned members, I'll also like to add few points in case of trikaal gyana!! 1)We Pray lord Ganeshji for jyotisha & all knowledge in universe!! We consider him as Gos for all vidyas including Jyotisha!! Who represent him? Ketu!! Also see Ketu is strong in 9&12 rasi of Guru !! And lord of 8th house of natural zodiac or Kaal Purusha! Am i correct! So how we can forget Ketu in judging trikaal gyana! So there should be strong 8th house basically, along with 9th & 12th house.(With purva punya 5th House will come) 2)Secondly it is not neccesary Trikaal Gyani should be an astrologer!! Trikaal Gyana is consider as a siddhi also which may be obtained by following any path say Karma,Bhakti,Gyan Or (mainly) Yoga!! The reason is Kaal Purusha is the representative of God when it had started no one knows! When it will vanish no one knows!! We create measuring refrences for our own convinience!! So trikaal gyana is related more to spirituality which includes astrology. Hence if you want to analyse this phenomena you should analyse the Saints mainly! 3)I am agree that Guru is major planet for dharmic things or knowledge of shastras!! But how vedas are generated!!? But still I agree with Guru because Guru is showing Purva Punya of Jataka !! Hence It is a natural significator of 5th house!! With poorva punya one get intuse to go for correct combinations & indications!! Other wise astrologer may keep wondering in woods of rules given in various scripts. Hence Guru is also very important. So in short I'll say strong Guru,Ketu,5,8,9,12 houses may create such yogas!! Now for Hari, I'm having personal experience of many persons who are not born with trikaal gyana but with Guru's Blessings they have reached in more depth!! And surprisingly they never ask for your horoscope! What they do is just meditate Or Guru Smaran & come up with such astonising readings which hardly fails!! So according to me when one gets blessings from Guru he will start on this path! First you will come to know about Kruta , means how the world is created using 5 tatwas & how it is running!! But still Sat is long way from there & with SatGuru's guidence one will cross these boundries of KaalaPurasha!! This is my personal opinion & one may or may not be agree with me. But I will like to get more knowledge from learned members & Gurus on this (Ketu...) front!! Vaade Vaade Jaayate Tatwa Bodhah|| With warm regards, Vinay Patwardhan || Raghuvir Smaran|| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 sri guru pada nakha mani joti, sumirat dibya dristi hiya hoti// dalan moha tam so saprakasu/ bade bhaag ur aavai jasu// (ramcharitmanas) sadgurudevaaye namah dear vinay ketu's role is more related to occultism. u will find ketu's role in the chart of occultic personalities/ astrologers, scientists, mantrgyas, tantriks etc. but, even a bhakta can become trikaal darshi. now this totaaly depends on the ju or ketu or mutual yoga to show various sources of attainment of siddhi. ju shows satwa, guru's blessings. ketu may show mantra, tantra or occultic path or intuition. my ketu is in 5th; aspected by graha dristi of ju(in lagna with ketu's dispoistor/5th lord), goes to 12 in navamsa occupies nidhanmsa(8th sign of rasi chart). acc to ur theory, i should have had these sidhhis very well. but unfortunately except bit of intution , there is nothing else. in addition to this, my jupiter is in meena navamsa , attains gopuramsa, is in komal shashtyamsa. where is "trikaaldarshita" ? the recipe is incomplete?! regards prashant vedic astrology, "patwardhanvinay" <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > || Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| > > All Gurus & learned members, > I'll also like to add few points in case of trikaal gyana!! > 1)We Pray lord Ganeshji for jyotisha & all knowledge in universe!! We consider him as Gos for all vidyas including Jyotisha!! Who represent him? Ketu!! Also see Ketu is strong in 9&12 rasi of Guru !! And lord of 8th house of natural zodiac or Kaal Purusha! Am i correct! So how we can forget Ketu in judging trikaal gyana! > So there should be strong 8th house basically, along with 9th & 12th house.(With purva punya 5th House will come) > 2)Secondly it is not neccesary Trikaal Gyani should be an astrologer!! Trikaal Gyana is consider as a siddhi also which may be obtained by following any path say Karma,Bhakti,Gyan Or (mainly) Yoga!! The reason is Kaal Purusha is the representative of God when it had started no one knows! When it will vanish no one knows!! We create measuring refrences for our own convinience!! So trikaal gyana is related more to spirituality which includes astrology. Hence if you want to analyse this phenomena you should analyse the Saints mainly! > 3)I am agree that Guru is major planet for dharmic things or knowledge of shastras!! But how vedas are generated!!? But still I agree with Guru because Guru is showing Purva Punya of Jataka !! Hence It is a natural significator of 5th house!! With poorva punya one get intuse to go for correct combinations & indications!! Other wise astrologer may keep wondering in woods of rules given in various scripts. Hence Guru is also very important. > So in short I'll say strong Guru,Ketu,5,8,9,12 houses may create such yogas!! > > Now for Hari, > I'm having personal experience of many persons who are not born with trikaal gyana but with Guru's Blessings they have reached in more depth!! > And surprisingly they never ask for your horoscope! What they do is just meditate Or Guru Smaran & come up with such astonising readings which hardly fails!! > So according to me when one gets blessings from Guru he will start on this path! First you will come to know about Kruta , means how the world is created using 5 tatwas & how it is running!! But still Sat is long way from there & with SatGuru's guidence one will cross these boundries of KaalaPurasha!! > This is my personal opinion & one may or may not be agree with me. But I will like to get more knowledge from learned members & Gurus on this (Ketu...) front!! Vaade Vaade Jaayate Tatwa Bodhah|| > > With warm regards, > > Vinay Patwardhan > > || Raghuvir Smaran|| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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