Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 I never claimed that Anshu had published this in Vedic Astro mag, since I am not a r to that as of now, and wouldn't know if he published it in the mag. Before the results of the election he had sent me his article, which I forwarded to the list with his permission. The article was sent before the results was out. I am ccing this letter to Anshu and if he wishes he might reply to you. I don't think so he is a member of his list. Anyone who wishes to get in touch with Anshu his email id is vedicastro (AT) hotpop (DOT) com I hope Anshu this is ok for me to divulge your id without your permission. I have been receiving letters asking for your email id after I posted your article. Kind regards, Sushmita P.S: Mr. VB and Sanjay Agarwal, I refuse to reply back to your replies as the truth is known by most members of the list and I have received mails thanking me to stand up against you. I do not wish to pursue any discussion on this subjectSunil John <suniljohn (AT) softhome (DOT) net> wrote: Sush, u better answer this, before you leave for Bangalore, tried calling on ur cell but it was switched off I think. Best Sunil inder_jit_sahni [isawhney (AT) glide (DOT) net.in]Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:12 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: FW: [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004 I am personaly known to Anshu,He write for Vedic Astrology Magazine, I did not see this article on the magazine , it comes out from the Sky when cat was out. It does not appear in any where before.With Best Wishes--- In vedic astrology, "Sunil John" <suniljohn@s...> wrote:> Dear Chandrashekharji,> If u read the post given earlier, it does mention a name called Anshumalee,> u mentioned a name Anshu, so I presume u and Sush a are speaking about the> same person. In my personal interaction with Sush, she said she is daily in> touch with this person Anshumalee who is from Delhi and is a senior person> who lectures a lot and came back from US recently.> > If he is ur friend Chandrashekharji, can u extend an invitation to him to> come to this list and write sometimes, VA list has the max members in> and a senior member like him here would profit everyone .> > Best wishes,> > Sunil> > Sushmita S [sushmita34]> Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:10 AM> To: gjlist> Cc: vedic astrology> Subject: [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004> > Dear List members,> This article had come to me some time back and I have the authors permission> to send it to various lists. The author is a senior member of the> astrological community. His name is Anshumaleeji.> > Regards,> > Sushmita> > > > INDIAN ELECTIONS 2004> > > > > BACKGROUND> > The General Elections 2004 announced yesterday being held ahead of schedule> comes as no surprise at all. That this was round the corner was apparent> based on the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart for the country for 2004. This> has been discussed at length by the author in an earlier issue of Vedic> Astrology.> > Chaitra Shukla Chart for India> > For India, the chart is for 21st of March 2004, 04:11:17 AM at Delhi. The> Ascendant is Capricorn having no planets posited and not aspected by any> planet. Sun and Moon having the eighth and seventh lordship respectively are> in friendly sign Pisces in the third house along with debilitated Mercury> having the sixth and ninth lordship. Yogkaraka Venus having the fifth and> tenth lordship is placed in the fourth house Aries along with Rahu.> Therefore Ketu is in the tenth house Libra. Fifth house Taurus has the> planet Mars having the eleventh and fourth lordship. Lagna and second lord> Saturn is placed in the sixth house Gemini. Jupiter being the third and> twelfth lord is placed in the eighth house Leo in retrogression.> > The obvious indications were that the Lok Sabha will not be in existence as> the above date approaches.> > Further the tenth house representing the government/formation in power is> afflicted due to presence of Ketu. The fourth house representing the> opposition is afflicted due to the presence of Rahu indicating general> confusion in the ranks. The saving grace however is the presence of benefic> Venus as well as a trinal aspect of Jupiter. These factors indicate that the> opposition is likely to gain during the current year.> > > PERSPECTIVE> > The election comes at a time when the planetary placements are not conducive> to the same. The possibility of violence, terrorist threat and possibly even> communal clash loom large.> > Independence Chart for India> > The chart used for India is that of the Indian Independence Day: August 15,> 1947 at 00:00 hours, time zone +5:30, New Delhi, India, 28N39, 077E13. The> Ascendant is Taurus 07:44. Rahu is 05:44 in the Lagna. Mars is 07:27 Gemini> in the second house. Apart from Jupiter, which is 25:52 Libra in sixth house> and Ketu, which is in Scorpio in the seventh house, all the remaining> planets are in Cancer, the third house. The respective positions are Moon> 03:59, Mercury 13:41, Saturn 20:28, Venus 22:34 and Sun 27:59. All the> planets are in direct motion apart from RKA, which is in its normal> retrograde motion. None of the planets are either exalted or debilitated.> Moon is in own sign. The conglomeration of five planets in Cancer, third> house makes for some interesting combinations and Kendra Trikona Rajyogas.> Atma Karaka (Sun), Putra Karaka (Mercury) who is also the fifth lord and> Dara Karaka (Moon) give rise to many Jaimini Rajyogas too.> > The transit position of the three malefic planets Mars, Saturn and Rahu in> the lagna/ascendant and the adjoining houses, namely second and twelfth, in> the independence chart of India do not assure the well being for the nation> during the run up period as well as the elections. The ascendant of the> nation is afflicted by Mars while being in a strong paap-kartari yoga being> hemmed between dire malefics Saturn and Rahu.> > The political situation is as fluid as can be and is likely to reach melting> points in the coming weeks. The alliance in power, as well as the opposition> parties/groups is in a constant secret huddle of sorts in a bid to out do> the other. It is likely to remain a conspiracy like scenario for the coming> weeks as each formation does its best to assure itself of the magic numbers> in the forthcoming Lok Sabha.> > As the election dates approach the scenario is likely to get murkier and> murkier. The apparent strength of the ruling alliance is perhaps> overestimated in the present and this will keep becoming clearer with> passing days, as well as the fact that the oppositions apparent> weakness/lack of cohesion and the ability to put up a fight has been> underestimated in the present.> > Without doubt there are a number of factors in favour of the alliance in> power. It would indeed not be prudent to underestimate the opposition.> Therefore the need of the hour is to be wary of complacency in order to> avoid any unpleasant surprises in the polls outcome.> > The planetary positions are likely to have a significant effect on the> contours of the various political formations in the arena. It is more than> likely that the constituents in the alliances are different after the> elections from the ones that were present in the pre election period.> > > ELECTION DATES & ECLIPSE> > The proposed elections are spread over four phases to be held on 20th and> 26th in the month of April and on the 5th and 10th in the month of May. The> time of announcement of elections is indicative of the need for possible> revision and/or rescheduling of the dates.> > On the night of 4th / 5th of May a significant astrological phenomenon is> occurring in the form of a total lunar eclipse.> > The eclipse is visible throughout Asia including India and therefore assumes> added significance. The solar eclipse on 19th of April is not significant as> it is not visible in India.> > The lunar eclipse is occurring while Moon is transiting Libra sign (rashi)> and Vishakha constellation (nakshatra). Such an eclipse is said to be> pernicious for the populace at large while threatening deaths, possibly also> of some renowned and illustrious personality in public life.> > An eclipse has an impact on mundane events and the impact is not positive.> The eclipse is happening midway through the election process. Possible> effect in the present can be the postponement of some election dates due to> unforeseen and unexpected developments.> > > > OUTCOME> > The outcome of the election is expected to be very close indeed. The claim> to the coveted seat of power is likely to be within striking distance of> more than one group. This leaves the field wide open with the possibilities> of the emergence of the most unlikely of alliances as well as the specter of> a period of relative political uncertainty as compared to the last half> decade.> > In the opinion of the author even the prime ministerial candidate is> expected to be a surprise. We may finally have a leader well known for his> ability, honesty and integrity. For what it is worth, Shri Manmohan Singh,> the present leader of opposition in Rajya Sabha comes closest to fitting the> bill.> _____> > > Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2'> <http://movies./showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861>> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Dear Sushmita , The article was with incomplete information, i do to the Vedic Astrology, it is always in favor of the writer to disclose every thing. As I told Anshu and me are personaly known to each other but i do not read this article in the magzuine in which he generaly write, this will be good for all.We respect each other , and if you had forwarded it this is ok for me. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360hanskpvedic - Sushmita S vedic astrology Cc: vedicastro (AT) hotpop (DOT) com Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:50 PM Re: FW: FW: [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004 Dear Mr. Sawhney and Chandrashekhar, I never claimed that Anshu had published this in Vedic Astro mag, since I am not a r to that as of now, and wouldn't know if he published it in the mag. Before the results of the election he had sent me his article, which I forwarded to the list with his permission. The article was sent before the results was out. I am ccing this letter to Anshu and if he wishes he might reply to you. I don't think so he is a member of his list. Anyone who wishes to get in touch with Anshu his email id is vedicastro (AT) hotpop (DOT) com I hope Anshu this is ok for me to divulge your id without your permission. I have been receiving letters asking for your email id after I posted your article. Kind regards, Sushmita P.S: Mr. VB and Sanjay Agarwal, I refuse to reply back to your replies as the truth is known by most members of the list and I have received mails thanking me to stand up against you. I do not wish to pursue any discussion on this subjectSunil John <suniljohn (AT) softhome (DOT) net> wrote: Sush, u better answer this, before you leave for Bangalore, tried calling on ur cell but it was switched off I think. Best Sunil inder_jit_sahni [isawhney (AT) glide (DOT) net.in]Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:12 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: FW: [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004 I am personaly known to Anshu,He write for Vedic Astrology Magazine, I did not see this article on the magazine , it comes out from the Sky when cat was out. It does not appear in any where before.With Best Wishes--- In vedic astrology, "Sunil John" <suniljohn@s...> wrote:> Dear Chandrashekharji,> If u read the post given earlier, it does mention a name called Anshumalee,> u mentioned a name Anshu, so I presume u and Sush a are speaking about the> same person. In my personal interaction with Sush, she said she is daily in> touch with this person Anshumalee who is from Delhi and is a senior person> who lectures a lot and came back from US recently.> > If he is ur friend Chandrashekharji, can u extend an invitation to him to> come to this list and write sometimes, VA list has the max members in> and a senior member like him here would profit everyone .> > Best wishes,> > Sunil> > Sushmita S [sushmita34]> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:10 AM> gjlist> Cc: vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004> > Dear List members,> This article had come to me some time back and I have the authors permission> to send it to various lists. The author is a senior member of the> astrological community. His name is Anshumaleeji.> > Regards,> > Sushmita> > > > INDIAN ELECTIONS 2004> > > > > BACKGROUND> > The General Elections 2004 announced yesterday being held ahead of schedule> comes as no surprise at all. That this was round the corner was apparent> based on the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart for the country for 2004. This> has been discussed at length by the author in an earlier issue of Vedic> Astrology.> > Chaitra Shukla Chart for India> > For India, the chart is for 21st of March 2004, 04:11:17 AM at Delhi. The> Ascendant is Capricorn having no planets posited and not aspected by any> planet. Sun and Moon having the eighth and seventh lordship respectively are> in friendly sign Pisces in the third house along with debilitated Mercury> having the sixth and ninth lordship. Yogkaraka Venus having the fifth and> tenth lordship is placed in the fourth house Aries along with Rahu.> Therefore Ketu is in the tenth house Libra. Fifth house Taurus has the> planet Mars having the eleventh and fourth lordship. Lagna and second lord> Saturn is placed in the sixth house Gemini. Jupiter being the third and> twelfth lord is placed in the eighth house Leo in retrogression.> > The obvious indications were that the Lok Sabha will not be in existence as> the above date approaches.> > Further the tenth house representing the government/formation in power is> afflicted due to presence of Ketu. The fourth house representing the> opposition is afflicted due to the presence of Rahu indicating general> confusion in the ranks. The saving grace however is the presence of benefic> Venus as well as a trinal aspect of Jupiter. These factors indicate that the> opposition is likely to gain during the current year.> > > PERSPECTIVE> > The electi on comes at a time when the planetary placements are not conducive> to the same. The possibility of violence, terrorist threat and possibly even> communal clash loom large.> > Independence Chart for India> > The chart used for India is that of the Indian Independence Day: August 15,> 1947 at 00:00 hours, time zone +5:30, New Delhi, India, 28N39, 077E13. The> Ascendant is Taurus 07:44. Rahu is 05:44 in the Lagna. Mars is 07:27 Gemini> in the second house. Apart from Jupiter, which is 25:52 Libra in sixth house> and Ketu, which is in Scorpio in the seventh house, all the remaining> planets are in Cancer, the third house. The respective positions are Moon> 03:59, Mercury 13:41, Saturn 20:28, Venu s 22:34 and Sun 27:59. All the> planets are in direct motion apart from RKA, which is in its normal> retrograde motion. None of the planets are either exalted or debilitated.> Moon is in own sign. The conglomeration of five planets in Cancer, third> house makes for some interesting combinations and Kendra Trikona Rajyogas.> Atma Karaka (Sun), Putra Karaka (Mercury) who is also the fifth lord and> Dara Karaka (Moon) give rise to many Jaimini Rajyogas too.> > The transit position of the three malefic planets Mars, Saturn and Rahu in> the lagna/ascendant and the adjoining houses, namely second and twelfth, in> the independence chart of India do not assure the well being for the nation> during the run up period as well as the elections. The ascendant of the> nation is afflicted by Mars while being in a strong paap-kartari yoga being> hemmed between dire malefics Saturn and Rahu.> > The political situation is as fluid as can be and is likely to reach melting> points in the coming weeks. The alliance in power, as well as the opposition> parties/groups is in a constant secret huddle of sorts in a bid to out do> the other. It is likely to remain a conspiracy like scenario for the coming> weeks as each formation does its best to assure itself of the magic numbers> in the forthcoming Lok Sabha.> > As the election dates approach the scenario is likely to get murkier and> murkier. The apparent strength of t he ruling alliance is perhaps> overestimated in the present and this will keep becoming clearer with> passing days, as well as the fact that the oppositions apparent> weakness/lack of cohesion and the ability to put up a fight has been> underestimated in the present.> > Without doubt there are a number of factors in favour of the alliance in> power. It would indeed not be prudent to underestimate the opposition.> Therefore the need of the hour is to be wary of complacency in order to> avoid any unpleasant surprises in the polls outcome.> > The planetary positions are likely to have a significant effect on the> contours of the various political formations in the arena. It is more than> ; likely that the constituents in the alliances are different after the> elections from the ones that were present in the pre election period.> > > ELECTION DATES & ECLIPSE> > The proposed elections are spread over four phases to be held on 20th and> 26th in the month of April and on the 5th and 10th in the month of May. The> time of announcement of elections is indicative of the need for possible> revision and/or rescheduling of the dates.> > On the night of 4th / 5th of May a significant astrological phenomenon is> occurring in the form of a total lunar eclipse.> > The eclipse is visible throughout Asia including India and therefore assumes> added significance. The solar eclipse on 19th of April is not significant as> it is not visible in India.> > The lunar eclipse is occurring while Moon is transiting Libra sign (rashi)> and Vishakha constellation (nakshatra). Such an eclipse is said to be> pernicious for the populace at large while threatening deaths, possibly also> of some renowned and illustrious personality in public life.> > An eclipse has an impact on mundane events and the impact is not positive.> The eclipse is happening midway through the election process. Possible> effect in the present can be the postponement of some election dates due to> unforeseen and unexpected developments.> > > > OUTCOME> > The outcome of the election is expected to be very close indeed. The claim> to the coveted seat of power is likely to be within striking distance of> more than one group. This leaves the field wide open with the possibilities> of the emergence of the most unlikely of alliances as well as the specter of> a period of relative political uncertainty as compared to the last half> decade.> > In the opinion of the author even the prime ministerial candidate is> expected to be a surprise. We may finally have a leader well known for his> ability, honesty and integrity. For what it is worth, Shri Manmohan Singh,> the present leader of opposition in Rajya Sabha comes closest to fitting the> bill.> _____> > > Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2'> <http://movies./showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861>> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > > > > Sponsor> > click here> <http://rd./SIG=129fvoool/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D=groups> /S=1705082686:HM/EXP=1084509599/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http://companio> n.>> > > _____> > Links> * To visit your group on the web, go to:> vedic astrology/> > * > vedic astrology> <vedic astrology?subject=Un>> > * Terms of Service> <> .Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Dear Sunil and others, Anshumalee Sood or Anshu as we know him, is a very old student of Sanjayji's and was a regular at SJC class in Delhi. I have done classes together with him. At the moment he is the newly appointed Co-ordinator for SJC classes in Delhi and is recovering from severe bad health. Best regards, Sarbani Inder Jit Sahni [isawhney (AT) glide (DOT) net.in] Saturday, May 15, 2004 4:20 PMvedic astrologySubject: Re: FW: FW: [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004 Dear Sushmita , The article was with incomplete information, i do to the Vedic Astrology, it is always in favor of the writer to disclose every thing. As I told Anshu and me are personaly known to each other but i do not read this article in the magzuine in which he generaly write, this will be good for all.We respect each other , and if you had forwarded it this is ok for me. With Best Wishes, Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360hanskpvedic - Sushmita S vedic astrology Cc: vedicastro (AT) hotpop (DOT) com Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:50 PM Re: FW: FW: [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004 Dear Mr. Sawhney and Chandrashekhar, I never claimed that Anshu had published this in Vedic Astro mag, since I am not a r to that as of now, and wouldn't know if he published it in the mag. Before the results of the election he had sent me his article, which I forwarded to the list with his permission. The article was sent before the results was out. I am ccing this letter to Anshu and if he wishes he might reply to you. I don't think so he is a member of his list. Anyone who wishes to get in touch with Anshu his email id is vedicastro (AT) hotpop (DOT) com I hope Anshu this is ok for me to divulge your id without your permission. I have been receiving letters asking for your email id after I posted your article. Kind regards, Sushmita P.S: Mr. VB and Sanjay Agarwal, I refuse to reply back to your replies as the truth is known by most members of the list and I have received mails thanking me to stand up against you. I do not wish to pursue any discussion on this subjectSunil John <suniljohn (AT) softhome (DOT) net> wrote: Sush, u better answer this, before you leave for Bangalore, tried calling on ur cell but it was switched off I think. Best Sunil inder_jit_sahni [isawhney (AT) glide (DOT) net.in]Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:12 AMTo: vedic astrologySubject: Re: FW: [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004 I am personaly known to Anshu,He write for Vedic Astrology Magazine, I did not see this article on the magazine , it comes out from the Sky when cat was out. It does not appear in any where before.With Best Wishes--- In vedic astrology, "Sunil John" <suniljohn@s...> wrote:> Dear Chandrashekharji,> If u read the post given earlier, it does mention a name called Anshumalee,> u mentioned a name Anshu, so I presume u and Sush a are speaking about the> same person. In my personal interaction with Sush, she said she is daily in> touch with this person Anshumalee who is from Delhi and is a senior person> who lectures a lot and came back from US recently.> > If he is ur friend Chandrashekharji, can u extend an invitation to him to> come to this list and write sometimes, VA list has the max members in> and a senior member like him here would profit everyone .> > Best wishes,> > Sunil> > Sushmita S [sushmita34]> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:10 AM> gjlist> Cc: vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004> > Dear List members,> This article had come to me some time back and I have the authors permission> to send it to various lists. The author is a senior member of the> astrological community. His name is Anshumaleeji.> > Regards,> > Sushmita> > > > INDIAN ELECTIONS 2004> > > > > BACKGROUND> > The General Elections 2004 announced yesterday being held ahead of schedule> comes as no surprise at all. That this was round the corner was apparent> based on the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart for the country for 2004. This> has been discussed at length by the author in an earlier issue of Vedic> Astrology.> > Chaitra Shukla Chart for India> > For India, the chart is for 21st of March 2004, 04:11:17 AM at Delhi. The> Ascendant is Capricorn having no planets posited and not aspected by any> planet. Sun and Moon having the eighth and seventh lordship respectively are> in friendly sign Pisces in the third house along with debilitated Mercury> having the sixth and ninth lordship. Yogkaraka Venus having the fifth and> tenth lordship is placed in the fourth house Aries along with Rahu.> Therefore Ketu is in the tenth house Libra. Fifth house Taurus has the> planet Mars having the eleventh and fourth lordship. Lagna and second lord> Saturn is placed in the sixth house Gemini. Jupiter being the third and> twelfth lord is placed in the eighth house Leo in retrogression.> > The obvious indications were that the Lok Sabha will not be in existence as> the above date approaches.> > Further the tenth house representing the government/formation in power is> afflicted due to presence of Ketu. The fourth house representing the> opposition is afflicted due to the presence of Rahu indicating general> confusion in the ranks. The saving grace however is the presence of benefic> Venus as well as a trinal aspect of Jupiter. These factors indicate that the> opposition is likely to gain during the current year.> > > PERSPECTIVE> > The electi on comes at a time when the planetary placements are not conducive> to the same. The possibility of violence, terrorist threat and possibly even> communal clash loom large.> > Independence Chart for India> > The chart used for India is that of the Indian Independence Day: August 15,> 1947 at 00:00 hours, time zone +5:30, New Delhi, India, 28N39, 077E13. The> Ascendant is Taurus 07:44. Rahu is 05:44 in the Lagna. Mars is 07:27 Gemini> in the second house. Apart from Jupiter, which is 25:52 Libra in sixth house> and Ketu, which is in Scorpio in the seventh house, all the remaining> planets are in Cancer, the third house. The respective positions are Moon> 03:59, Mercury 13:41, Saturn 20:28, Venu s 22:34 and Sun 27:59. All the> planets are in direct motion apart from RKA, which is in its normal> retrograde motion. None of the planets are either exalted or debilitated.> Moon is in own sign. The conglomeration of five planets in Cancer, third> house makes for some interesting combinations and Kendra Trikona Rajyogas.> Atma Karaka (Sun), Putra Karaka (Mercury) who is also the fifth lord and> Dara Karaka (Moon) give rise to many Jaimini Rajyogas too.> > The transit position of the three malefic planets Mars, Saturn and Rahu in> the lagna/ascendant and the adjoining houses, namely second and twelfth, in> the independence chart of India do not assure the well being for the nation> during the run up period as well as the elections. The ascendant of the> nation is afflicted by Mars while being in a strong paap-kartari yoga being> hemmed between dire malefics Saturn and Rahu.> > The political situation is as fluid as can be and is likely to reach melting> points in the coming weeks. The alliance in power, as well as the opposition> parties/groups is in a constant secret huddle of sorts in a bid to out do> the other. It is likely to remain a conspiracy like scenario for the coming> weeks as each formation does its best to assure itself of the magic numbers> in the forthcoming Lok Sabha.> > As the election dates approach the scenario is likely to get murkier and> murkier. The apparent strength of t he ruling alliance is perhaps> overestimated in the present and this will keep becoming clearer with> passing days, as well as the fact that the oppositions apparent> weakness/lack of cohesion and the ability to put up a fight has been> underestimated in the present.> > Without doubt there are a number of factors in favour of the alliance in> power. It would indeed not be prudent to underestimate the opposition.> Therefore the need of the hour is to be wary of complacency in order to> avoid any unpleasant surprises in the polls outcome.> > The planetary positions are likely to have a significant effect on the> contours of the various political formations in the arena. It is more than> ; likely that the constituents in the alliances are different after the> elections from the ones that were present in the pre election period.> > > ELECTION DATES & ECLIPSE> > The proposed elections are spread over four phases to be held on 20th and> 26th in the month of April and on the 5th and 10th in the month of May. The> time of announcement of elections is indicative of the need for possible> revision and/or rescheduling of the dates.> > On the night of 4th / 5th of May a significant astrological phenomenon is> occurring in the form of a total lunar eclipse.> > The eclipse is visible throughout Asia including India and therefore assumes> added significance. The solar eclipse on 19th of April is not significant as> it is not visible in India.> > The lunar eclipse is occurring while Moon is transiting Libra sign (rashi)> and Vishakha constellation (nakshatra). Such an eclipse is said to be> pernicious for the populace at large while threatening deaths, possibly also> of some renowned and illustrious personality in public life.> > An eclipse has an impact on mundane events and the impact is not positive.> The eclipse is happening midway through the election process. Possible> effect in the present can be the postponement of some election dates due to> unforeseen and unexpected developments.> > > > OUTCOME> > The outcome of the election is expected to be very close indeed. The claim> to the coveted seat of power is likely to be within striking distance of> more than one group. This leaves the field wide open with the possibilities> of the emergence of the most unlikely of alliances as well as the specter of> a period of relative political uncertainty as compared to the last half> decade.> > In the opinion of the author even the prime ministerial candidate is> expected to be a surprise. We may finally have a leader well known for his> ability, honesty and integrity. 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Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 font-family:Garamond;color:blue;font-weight:bold">Dear Sarbani, font-family:Garamond;color:blue;font-weight:bold"> font-family:Garamond;color:blue;font-weight:bold">Thanks for your mail. Sanjayji had earlier in the day replied to me privately and informed me the same that Anshumaleeji is a senior member of SJC Delhi, I hope him speedy recovery and hope to see him on the list, so that students can learn from him. font-family:Garamond;color:blue;font-weight:bold"> font-family:Garamond;color:blue;font-weight:bold">Congrags Anshumaleeji for your splendid prediction. font-family:Garamond;color:blue;font-weight:bold"> font-family:Garamond;color:blue;font-weight:bold">May God give you good health and everlasting fame. font-family:Garamond;color:blue;font-weight:bold"> font-family:Garamond;color:blue;font-weight:bold">Kind regards, font-family:Garamond;color:blue;font-weight:bold"> font-family:Garamond;color:blue;font-weight:bold">Sunil Arial"> -----Original Message----- Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani (AT) (DOT) org] Saturday, May 15, 2004 4:38 PM 'Inder Jit Sahni'; vedic astrology Cc: anshusood (AT) vsnl (DOT) net RE: FW: FW: [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004 Dear Sunil and others, mso-color-alt:windowtext"> Anshumalee Sood or Anshu as we know him, is a very old student of Sanjayji's and was a regular at SJC class in Delhi. I have done classes together with him. At the moment he is the newly appointed Co-ordinator for SJC classes in Delhi and is recovering from severe bad health. Best regards, windowtext"> Sarbani color:black"> 12.0pt;margin-left:.5in"> color:black"> Inder Jit Sahni [isawhney (AT) glide (DOT) net.in] Saturday, May 15, 2004 4:20 PM To: vedic astrology Re: FW: FW: [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004 Dear Sushmita , windowtext"> The article was with incomplete information, i do to the Vedic Astrology, it is always in favor of the writer to disclose every thing. As I told Anshu and me are personaly known to each other but i do not read this article in the magzuine in which he generaly write, this will be good for all.We respect each other , and if you had forwarded it this is ok for me. With Best Wishes, mso-color-alt:windowtext"> Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1 Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360 hanskpvedic windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">----- Original Message ----- margin-left:39.75pt;background:#E4E4E4;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold"> Sushmita S Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">vedic astrology color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">Cc: vedicastro (AT) hotpop (DOT) com font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">Saturday, May 15, 2004 12:50 PM margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> font-weight:bold">Re: FW: FW: [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004 color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black">Dear Mr. Sawhney and Chandrashekhar, margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black">I never claimed that Anshu had published this in Vedic Astro mag, since I am not a r to that as of now, and wouldn't know if he published it in the mag. Before the results of the election he had sent me his article, which I forwarded to the list with his permission. The article was sent before the results was out. margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black">I am ccing this letter to Anshu and if he wishes he might reply to you. I don't think so he is a member of his list. margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black">Anyone who wishes to get in touch with Anshu his email id is vedicastro (AT) hotpop (DOT) com I hope Anshu this is ok for me to divulge your id without your permission. I have been receiving letters asking for your email id after I posted your article. margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black">Kind regards, margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black">Sushmita margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt; padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> color:black">P.S: Mr. VB and Sanjay Agarwal, I refuse to reply back to your replies as the truth is known by most members of the list and I have received mails thanking me to stand up against you. I do not wish to pursue any discussion on this subject Sunil John <suniljohn (AT) softhome (DOT) net> wrote: 0in;margin-left:43.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> 10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Sush, u better answer this, before you leave for Bangalore, tried calling on ur cell but it was switched off I think. 0in;margin-left:43.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> 10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial"> 0in;margin-left:43.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> 10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Best 0in;margin-left:43.5pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt: solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> 10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial">Sunil solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt"> margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;tab-stops:list 1.0in"> mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New";mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"; color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext">· mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New";color:black"> yes"> color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Dear Sushmita, I know you never said so. Anshu was talking to me day before yesterday and mentioned the article and at my request sent it to me. I have also stated that Anshu Sood is on Vedic astrologer Magazine. Perhaps someone understood to mean that the article appeared on the magazine. But I am sure that it must have appeared in the magazine since we were speaking about both the topics. If I remember right he said something about the prediction having been made some months back referring to Chaitra Pratipada based predictions. Chandrashekhar. Sushmita S wrote: > *Dear Mr. Sawhney and Chandrashekhar,* > *I never claimed that Anshu had published this in Vedic Astro mag, > since I am not a r to that as of now, and wouldn't know if he > published it in the mag. Before the results of the election he had > sent me his article, which I forwarded to the list with his > permission. The article was sent before the results was out.* > *I am ccing this letter to Anshu and if he wishes he might reply to > you. I don't think so he is a member of his list.* > *Anyone who wishes to get in touch with Anshu his email id is > vedicastro <vedicastro I hope Anshu this > is ok for me to divulge your id without your permission. I have been > receiving letters asking for your email id after I posted your article.* > > *Kind regards,* > > *Sushmita* > > *P.S: Mr. VB and Sanjay Agarwal, I refuse to reply back to your > replies as the truth is known by most members of the list and I have > received mails thanking me to stand up against you. I do not wish to > pursue any discussion on this subject > > /Sunil John <suniljohn/* wrote: > > Sush, u better answer this, before you leave for Bangalore, tried > calling on ur cell but it was switched off I think. > > > > Best > > Sunil > > > > > ** inder_jit_sahni [isawhney] > *Sent:* Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:12 AM > *To:* vedic astrology > *Subject:* Re: FW: [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004 > > > > I am personaly known to Anshu, > He write for Vedic Astrology Magazine, > I did not see this article on the magazine , it comes out from the > Sky when cat was out. It does not appear in any where before. > With Best Wishes > vedic astrology, "Sunil John" > <suniljohn@s...> wrote: >> Dear Chandrashekharji, >> If u read the post given earlier, it does mention a name called > Anshumalee, >> u mentioned a name Anshu, so I presume u and Sush a are speaking > about the >> same person. In my personal interaction with Sush, she said she is > daily in >> touch with this person Anshumalee who is from Delhi and is a > senior person >> who lectures a lot and came back from US recently. >> >> If he is ur friend Chandrashekharji, can u extend an invitation to > him to >> come to this list and write sometimes, VA list has the max members > in >> and a senior member like him here would profit > everyone . >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Sunil >> >> Sushmita S [sushmita34] >> Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:10 AM >> gjlist >> Cc: vedic astrology >> [vedic astrology] Indian Elections 2004 >> >> Dear List members, >> This article had come to me some time back and I have the authors > permission >> to send it to various lists. The author is a senior member of the >> astrological community. His name is Anshumaleeji. >> >> Regards, >> >> Sushmita >> >> >> >> INDIAN ELECTIONS 2004 >> >> >> >> >> BACKGROUND >> >> The General Elections 2004 announced yesterday being held ahead of > schedule >> comes as no surprise at all. That this was round the corner was > apparent >> based on the Chaitra Shukla Pratipada chart for the country for > 2004. This >> has been discussed at length by the author in an earlier issue of > Vedic >> Astrology. >> >> Chaitra Shukla Chart for India >> >> For India, the chart is for 21st of March 2004, 04:11:17 AM at > Delhi. The >> Ascendant is Capricorn having no planets posited and not aspected > by any >> planet. Sun and Moon having the eighth and seventh lordship > respectively are >> in friendly sign Pisces in the third house along with debilitated > Mercury >> having the sixth and ninth lordship. Yogkaraka Venus having the > fifth and >> tenth lordship is placed in the fourth house Aries along with Rahu. >> Therefore Ketu is in the tenth house Libra. Fifth house Taurus has > the >> planet Mars having the eleventh and fourth lordship. Lagna and > second lord >> Saturn is placed in the sixth house Gemini. Jupiter being the > third and >> twelfth lord is placed in the eighth house Leo in retrogression. >> >> The obvious indications were that the Lok Sabha will not be in > existence as >> the above date approaches. >> >> Further the tenth house representing the government/formation in > power is >> afflicted due to presence of Ketu. The fourth house representing > the >> opposition is afflicted due to the presence of Rahu indicating > general >> confusion in the ranks. The saving grace however is the presence > of benefic >> Venus as well as a trinal aspect of Jupiter. These factors > indicate that the >> opposition is likely to gain during the current year. >> >> >> PERSPECTIVE >> >> The election comes at a time when the planetary placements are not > conducive >> to the same. The possibility of violence, terrorist threat and > possibly even >> communal clash loom large. >> >> Independence Chart for India >> >> The chart used for India is that of the Indian Independence Day: > August 15, >> 1947 at 00:00 hours, time zone +5:30, New Delhi, India, 28N39, > 077E13. The >> Ascendant is Taurus 07:44. Rahu is 05:44 in the Lagna. Mars is > 07:27 Gemini >> in the second house. Apart from Jupiter, which is 25:52 Libra in > sixth house >> and Ketu, which is in Scorpio in the seventh house, all the > remaining >> planets are in Cancer, the third house. The respective positions > are Moon >> 03:59, Mercury 13:41, Saturn 20:28, Venus 22:34 and Sun 27:59. All > the >> planets are in direct motion apart from RKA, which is in its normal >> retrograde motion. None of the planets are either exalted or > debilitated. >> Moon is in own sign. The conglomeration of five planets in Cancer, > third >> house makes for some interesting combinations and Kendra Trikona > Rajyogas. >> Atma Karaka (Sun), Putra Karaka (Mercury) who is also the fifth > lord and >> Dara Karaka (Moon) give rise to many Jaimini Rajyogas too. >> >> The transit position of the three malefic planets Mars, Saturn and > Rahu in >> the lagna/ascendant and the adjoining houses, namely second and > twelfth, in >> the independence chart of India do not assure the well being for > the nation >> during the run up period as well as the elections. The ascendant > of the >> nation is afflicted by Mars while being in a strong paap-kartari > yoga being >> hemmed between dire malefics Saturn and Rahu. >> >> The political situation is as fluid as can be and is likely to > reach melting >> points in the coming weeks. The alliance in power, as well as the > opposition >> parties/groups is in a constant secret huddle of sorts in a bid to > out do >> the other. It is likely to remain a conspiracy like scenario for > the coming >> weeks as each formation does its best to assure itself of the > magic numbers >> in the forthcoming Lok Sabha. >> >> As the election dates approach the scenario is likely to get > murkier and >> murkier. The apparent strength of the ruling alliance is perhaps >> overestimated in the present and this will keep becoming clearer > with >> passing days, as well as the fact that the oppositions apparent >> weakness/lack of cohesion and the ability to put up a fight has > been >> underestimated in the present. >> >> Without doubt there are a number of factors in favour of the > alliance in >> power. It would indeed not be prudent to underestimate the > opposition. >> Therefore the need of the hour is to be wary of complacency in > order to >> avoid any unpleasant surprises in the polls outcome. >> >> The planetary positions are likely to have a significant effect on > the >> contours of the various political formations in the arena. It is > more than >> likely that the constituents in the alliances are different after > the >> elections from the ones that were present in the pre election > period. >> >> >> ELECTION DATES & ECLIPSE >> >> The proposed elections are spread over four phases to be held on > 20th and >> 26th in the month of April and on the 5th and 10th in the month of > May. The >> time of announcement of elections is indicative of the need for > possible >> revision and/or rescheduling of the dates. >> >> On the night of 4th / 5th of May a significant astrological > phenomenon is >> occurring in the form of a total lunar eclipse. >> >> The eclipse is visible throughout Asia including India and > therefore assumes >> added significance. The solar eclipse on 19th of April is not > significant as >> it is not visible in India. >> >> The lunar eclipse is occurring while Moon is transiting Libra sign > (rashi) >> and Vishakha constellation (nakshatra). Such an eclipse is said to > be >> pernicious for the populace at large while threatening deaths, > possibly also >> of some renowned and illustrious personality in public life. >> >> An eclipse has an impact on mundane events and the impact is not > positive. >> The eclipse is happening midway through the election process. > Possible >> effect in the present can be the postponement of some election > dates due to >> unforeseen and unexpected developments. >> >> >> >> OUTCOME >> >> The outcome of the election is expected to be very close indeed. > The claim >> to the coveted seat of power is likely to be within striking > distance of >> more than one group. This leaves the field wide open with the > possibilities >> of the emergence of the most unlikely of alliances as well as the > specter of >> a period of relative political uncertainty as compared to the last > half >> decade. >> >> In the opinion of the author even the prime ministerial candidate > is >> expected to be a surprise. We may finally have a leader well > known for his >> ability, honesty and integrity. For what it is worth, Shri > Manmohan Singh, >> the present leader of opposition in Rajya Sabha comes closest to > fitting the >> bill. >> _____ >> >> >> Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' >> <http://movies./showtimes/movie?mid=1808405861> >> >> >> >> >> >> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > >> >> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sponsor >> >> click here >> > <http://rd./SIG=129fvoool/M=295196.4901138.6071305.3001176/D > =groups >> /S=1705082686:HM/EXP=1084509599/A=2128215/R=0/SIG=10se96mf6/*http:/ > /companio >> n.> >> >> >> _____ >> >> Links >> * >> vedic astrology/ >> >> * >> vedic astrology >> <vedic astrology? > subject=Un> >> >> * Terms of > Service >> <> . > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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