Guest guest Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| Dear Friends, I'm posting a puzzel regarding the education of the native. Birth Data is :- April 28 , 1979 Time:- 22:55 place:- 75E47 , 21N 02 IST +5:30 It would be nice if scholars can guess about his education !! Guess the education stream and time of completion of studies. Options:- 1) Scholar and uninterrupt education (Just meantion the stream) When he'd completed his education? 2) Interuptions in education (If interuptions then duration of interuption)? 3) Completely stoped studies (If so which time or yr)? Or if u think any other possibility pls do mention. Waiting for responce from all members! Regards, Vinay Patwardhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Dear Vinay Ji My knowledge is limited.Kindly consider this as an attempt to learn.Lagna Lord is in 8th but exalted.Ascendant has Mandi Gulika.Dispositor of ascendant lord is moon exalted, but in 6th.Hence strength of Lagna is Ok/average. 4th house shows mother ,happiness,landed properties,educational circumstances,own place etc.Here education is the main concern.Planets in 4th. Venus is exalted forming Hamsa hence good.(But Venus being a malefic for sag lagna mothers health may be noted.Also as Karaka Moon is in 6th though exalted).Mercury is debilitated but is good in vargas.In sidhamsha mercury is good.Mars being 5th lord will be good.But in 4th as 12th lord may be difficult for mother again.Lord of 4th is in 8th which is bad for the significations of 4th but is exalted hence neutralised.Jupiter aspects 4th(own) house.Thus considering from Lagna 4th house is ok.Hence educational indications are good.But short breakages may not be ruled out due to the above said reasons. For higher education let us consider 9th house.Ninth house has saturn and Rahu.Thus bad.But ninth lord is exalted in 5th.Which is good.Hence the individual has higher educational possibilities,but again short breakages. Now from Moon 4th house has saturn and Rahu.4th lord exalted in 12th.5th lord is debilitated.Thus again the indications are mixed.Ninth lord from moon, saturn is in 4th, afflicted by rahu. Thus i would say there can be a break during Rahu dasha (Rahu-sat or Rahu-Mercury).Kindly correct me. Stream of education is difficult.Fifth lord is Mars and is placed in 4th with mercury ?Any technical stream??Artisitc and creative abilities are very much possible.Will be interested in many subjects. Hope to learn more from you. Best regds Pradeep vedic astrology, "patwardhanvinay" <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| > > Dear Friends, > > I'm posting a puzzel regarding the education of the native. > > Birth Data is :- > > April 28 , 1979 > Time:- 22:55 > place:- 75E47 , 21N 02 IST +5:30 > > It would be nice if scholars can guess about his education !! Guess the education stream and time of completion of studies. > > Options:- > 1) Scholar and uninterrupt education (Just meantion the stream) When he'd completed his education? > 2) Interuptions in education (If interuptions then duration of interuption)? > 3) Completely stoped studies (If so which time or yr)? > > Or if u think any other possibility pls do mention. > > Waiting for responce from all members! > > Regards, > > Vinay Patwardhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| Dear Pradeepji, Just Call me Vinay! I'm also a beginer like u. I'll wait for responce from other members for 2 more days then answer will be given to list!! Now I request u and all members to go in more depths and conclude correctly!! This case is really interesting one and hence pls use whatever u have learned!! (If u want any more hints pls write personally to me) In ur points pls check for the following points again:- 1)Does venus forms Hamsa Yoga? Or Malavya Yoga? Results also! 2)Karka for 4th is moon. But i think mer is also Karka for 4th and more concerned about this topic. (Don't worry about mother She's perfectly fine and may GOD bless her Long life) 3) If u feel brake is there pls time it with yrs or say duration!! (Why u left Sun to complete the Sudarshana Chakra!!) These r my suggestions to help u to go in more depth!! Message 41690 of 41695 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] Message Index Msg # "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:51 am Re: Puzzel no 1 Dear Vinay JiMy knowledge is limited.Kindly consider this as an attempt tolearn.Lagna Lord is in 8th but exalted.Ascendant has MandiGulika.Dispositor of ascendant lord is moon exalted, but in6th.Hence strength of Lagna is Ok/average.4th house shows mother ,happiness,landed properties,educationalcircumstances,own place etc.Here education is the mainconcern.Planets in 4th.Venus is exalted forming Hamsa hence good.(But Venus being a maleficfor sag lagna mothers health may be noted.Also as Karaka Moon is in6th though exalted).Mercury is debilitated but is good in vargas.Insidhamsha mercury is good.Mars being 5th lord will be good.But in4th as 12th lord may be difficult for mother again.Lord of 4th is in8th which is bad for the significations of 4th but is exalted henceneutralised.Jupiter aspects 4th(own) house.Thus considering fromLagna 4th house is ok.Hence educational indications are good.Butshort breakages may not be ruled out due to the above said reasons.For higher education let us consider 9th house.Ninth house hassaturn and Rahu.Thus bad.But ninth lord is exalted in 5th.Which isgood.Hence the individual has higher educational possibilities,butagain short breakages.Now from Moon 4th house has saturn and Rahu.4th lord exalted in12th.5th lord is debilitated.Thus again the indications aremixed.Ninth lord from moon, saturn is in 4th, afflicted by rahu.Thus i would say there can be a break during Rahu dasha (Rahu-sat orRahu-Mercury).Kindly correct me.Stream of education is difficult.Fifth lord is Mars and is placed in4th with mercury ?Any technical stream??Artisitc and creativeabilities are very much possible.Will be interested in many subjects.Hope to learn more from you.Best regdsPradeep--- In vedic astrology, "patwardhanvinay"<patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote:> ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah||>> Dear Friends,>> I'm posting a puzzel regarding the education of the native.>> Birth Data is :->> April 28 , 1979> Time:- 22:55> place:- 75E47 , 21N 02 IST +5:30>> It would be nice if scholars can guess about his education !!Guess the education stream and time of completion of studies.>> Options:-> 1) Scholar and uninterrupt education (Just meantion the stream)When he'd completed his education?> 2) Interuptions in education (If interuptions then duration ofinteruption)?> 3) Completely stoped studies (If so which time or yr)?>> Or if u think any other possibility pls do mention.>> Waiting for responce from all members!>> Regards,>> Vinay Patwardhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Dear Vinay Thanks.Pls call me pradeep. >From your mails i could guess your knowledge. I was just expressing a concern regarding minor difficulties to mother as Venus and Mars along with debilitated mercury were present in 4th.Let GOD bless good health and long life. Hamsa was an absent minded statement. Thanks for the hints. Now from Sun 4th has exalted jupiter and fourth lord moon is exalted as well.Mercury general karaka for education is debilitated in the 12th.But its dispositor is exalted and lord of exaltaion(which is mercury itself) is in a kendra from lagna hence neechabhanga is also possible.jupiter is again 9th lord exalted in 4th.9th contains mandi & gulika. Hence you see this is an excellent case of variation in strengths from high to low.Also moon and venus are in 3/11 position which is a Raja yoga.Both moon and venus are exalted.Jupiter and Moon again in 3/11 position, again both exalted!! Can we say this individual tried too many options because of multiple influences?? My knowledge is limited.Hence if you could give me more hints it could be helpful. Thanks again Pradeep vedic astrology, "patwardhanvinay" <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| > > > Dear Pradeepji, > > Just Call me Vinay! > > I'm also a beginer like u. > > I'll wait for responce from other members for 2 more days then answer will be given to list!! > > Now I request u and all members to go in more depths and conclude correctly!! This case is really interesting one and > hence pls use whatever u have learned!! (If u want any more hints pls write personally to me) > > In ur points pls check for the following points again:- > > 1)Does venus forms Hamsa Yoga? Or Malavya Yoga? Results also! > 2)Karka for 4th is moon. But i think mer is also Karka for 4th and more concerned about this topic. > (Don't worry about mother She's perfectly fine and may GOD bless her Long life) > 3) If u feel brake is there pls time it with yrs or say duration!! (Why u left Sun to complete the Sudarshana Chakra!!) > > These r my suggestions to help u to go in more depth!! > > > - ------------- > > Message 41690 of 41695 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] Message Index Msg # > > "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep> > Fri Jun 18, 2004 2:51 am > Re: Puzzel no 1 > > > Dear Vinay Ji > > My knowledge is limited.Kindly consider this as an attempt to > learn.Lagna Lord is in 8th but exalted.Ascendant has Mandi > Gulika.Dispositor of ascendant lord is moon exalted, but in > 6th.Hence strength of Lagna is Ok/average. > > 4th house shows mother ,happiness,landed properties,educational > circumstances,own place etc.Here education is the main > concern.Planets in 4th. > Venus is exalted forming Hamsa hence good.(But Venus being a malefic > for sag lagna mothers health may be noted.Also as Karaka Moon is in > 6th though exalted).Mercury is debilitated but is good in vargas.In > sidhamsha mercury is good.Mars being 5th lord will be good.But in > 4th as 12th lord may be difficult for mother again.Lord of 4th is in > 8th which is bad for the significations of 4th but is exalted hence > neutralised.Jupiter aspects 4th(own) house.Thus considering from > Lagna 4th house is ok.Hence educational indications are good.But > short breakages may not be ruled out due to the above said reasons. > For higher education let us consider 9th house.Ninth house has > saturn and Rahu.Thus bad.But ninth lord is exalted in 5th.Which is > good.Hence the individual has higher educational possibilities,but > again short breakages. > > Now from Moon 4th house has saturn and Rahu.4th lord exalted in > 12th.5th lord is debilitated.Thus again the indications are > mixed.Ninth lord from moon, saturn is in 4th, afflicted by rahu. > > Thus i would say there can be a break during Rahu dasha (Rahu-sat or > Rahu-Mercury).Kindly correct me. > > Stream of education is difficult.Fifth lord is Mars and is placed in > 4th with mercury ?Any technical stream??Artisitc and creative > abilities are very much possible.Will be interested in many subjects. > Hope to learn more from you. > > Best regds > Pradeep > > > > vedic astrology, "patwardhanvinay" > <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > > ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I'm posting a puzzel regarding the education of the native. > > > > Birth Data is :- > > > > April 28 , 1979 > > Time:- 22:55 > > place:- 75E47 , 21N 02 IST +5:30 > > > > It would be nice if scholars can guess about his education !! > Guess the education stream and time of completion of studies. > > > > Options:- > > 1) Scholar and uninterrupt education (Just meantion the stream) > When he'd completed his education? > > 2) Interuptions in education (If interuptions then duration of > interuption)? > > 3) Completely stoped studies (If so which time or yr)? > > > > Or if u think any other possibility pls do mention. > > > > Waiting for responce from all members! > > > > Regards, > > > > Vinay Patwardhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 Dear Vinay and Pradeep, Namaste, Thanks a lot for the puzzle and your observations. Here are some more from my side; (I just quickly noted some things some of which could be wrong) The native has 4 exalted and one debilitated planet, but debilitation is cancelled due to 3 different Neecha Banga Yogas. This in itself is not enough criteria but the chart seems quite strong, except for lagnesh being posited in 8th. Lagnesh from the Moon is exalted Venus. Lagnesh and 4th. lord exalted Jupiter in 8th. suggests to me that native is into some deep scientific research which should be prominent in his life since degree for Jupiter is close to that of ascendant. Also exalted Jupiter is aspecting back 4th. house which is quite good. Higher education is a possibility due to 9th. house lord Sun exalted and posited in 5th. There will be interruptions in education since Saturn Retro and Rahu are in 9th. from lagna, and in 4th. house from the moon. Lord of 5th Mars in 4th. is bringing in possibility of engineering study, Mars aspecting 5th. from the Moon. Exalted Venus as lord of 6th. in 4th. makes one think of medical education. Another interesting thing about the chart is; Ke in 3rd., Lord of 3rd. Saturn in 9th. being retro also acting on 8th., and exalted Guru in 8th. And from the moon, Lord of 8th. Guru is in 3rd. Saturn Retro acting on 3rd. All these seem to point to "expression of spirituality and expression of Divine knowledge and association with the transcendent", hence studies connected with that. Also lord of 6th. Venus exalted in 4th. may be an indication of involvement with yagyas and mantras for healing or liberation (Pisces Rashi). In Chaturvimsamsa, similar trends are there with strong lagna and 4th. house, except for the aspect of Rahu and presence of Saturn in 4th. house which again point to interruptions in education. Another thing that has attracted my attention is the position of Sun in 5th. house both in lagna and Chaturvimsamsa which seems to indicate that the native likes to do studies on his own, e.g. without the instrumentality of a teacher, or he is studying spirituality or medicine. As when and how long interruptions would be in education, Saturn and Rahu would tend to interrupt (as has already been mentioned of course). So periods having Ra and Sa are candidates for that, when supported with transits of Saturn and Rahu aspecting or influencing 4th. or 9th. houses in lagna and the said Varga. I could not go into the detail of this, but one period that seems to fit these criteria is towards end of 1999. This is the period of Ra/Gu/Ra and Ra/Sa/Sa, with Saturn Retro debilitated affecting 4th. house, and Rahu as well, with the addition that Rahu in transit is in 8th. house but not exactly on top of natal Jupiter. The starting of a Saturn (main or sub) period, Ra/Sa/Sa always brings to mind for me some sort of trouble, obstruction, especially if Saturn is natally somewhat weak, which seems to be the case for the native. These are just some thoughts, please feel free to comment on them, these are not the observations of an expert anyway, thanking again, Best wishes, Adnan Sabri. vedic astrology, "patwardhanvinay" <patwardhanvinay@h...> wrote: > ||Shri GaneshDattaGurubhyo Namah|| > > Dear Friends, > > I'm posting a puzzel regarding the education of the native. > > Birth Data is :- > > April 28 , 1979 > Time:- 22:55 > place:- 75E47 , 21N 02 IST +5:30 > > It would be nice if scholars can guess about his education !! Guess the education stream and time of completion of studies. > > Options:- > 1) Scholar and uninterrupt education (Just meantion the stream) When he'd completed his education? > 2) Interuptions in education (If interuptions then duration of interuption)? > 3) Completely stoped studies (If so which time or yr)? > > Or if u think any other possibility pls do mention. > > Waiting for responce from all members! > > Regards, > > Vinay Patwardhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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