RE: Varnada Lagna discussion with Shri Visti

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Visti, Sunil,

Do you have any write up on the technique of timing a job from VL? I am keen to know more about it.

Regards

Ramesh

Sunil John [jjnet2000_in ]Sent:

Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:36 AMvedic astrologyCc:

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Shri Visti

Dear Visti,

Pranam

Thanks for ur compassionate reply, pls find my humble queries below

Dear Shri Visti,NamaskarThanks for making this an interesting discussion. Pls

allow me to ask some basic queries.1.Is the formula given by you different to

what's used in JHL

[Visti] The Formula is the same, only it does not use degrees like JHora does.

SJ: Thanks for this2.What Sunrise definition do you use for HL cal.

[Visti] Apparent Upper Limb.

SJ: I presume here u are referring to the tip of the Suns disk appears to be on

the eastern horizon.3.Since Jyotish is a karmic act or in other sense "a way of

doing of our karma" does the VL technique of seeing Jyotish abilities should be

more looked into the D10 or only Rasi.

[Visti] VL has NOTHING to do with abilities. In shows what sustains you. This is

the 2nd time you ask me this. VL in Rdgi seems sufficient for now.

SJ: I am sorry, as u know it takes me Triple time to grasp things than the

average student, but i was thinking that ones abilities is what makes one

sustain. But i guess in some cases it need not be true.

I was hoping that u would take up D10 in this area

I was trying to look at ur chart this morning, but somehow it is not in my Pc,

can u be kind to resend it.

4. I have lagna Ge and HL in Leo, so adding 3+5=8, so should the VL be 8th from

Aries or 8th from Ge Lagna, my confusion lies here, pls guide.

[Visti] 8th from Aries. Remember I timed your job from this.

SJ: Yes u were bingo on timing the job, and after that i have lot of beleif in

this technique which u taught, although I feel their is more to it and one can

use the degs of VL also to a major extent - just my thoughts,

oh wow i just checked Visti, the deg of VL and the giving planets dega was

right on spot, bingo on the day it happened. What do u feel can the degs be

used for timing although this is one solo case and statistical research needs

to be carried out.

My good friend Partha was also right on although he used another technique,

which technique i havent been able to understand yet.

If i take the VL lord Mars then it was passing thro 0 bindu in its BAV and also

its deb sign, Mars also being the Dasa lord.o Rasi or Graha dristi OR should we

look at their influence Rasi/Graha on the 'Lord' of the 11th from VL.

[Visti] Rdgi deqvi and look at both the sign and lord. The Lord indicates that

which you are guided to do.

SJ: thanksi you have many yrs of experience in Jyotish and must have keenly

observed your own ups and downs in Jyotish studies, have you seen some

exaltation in ur Jyotish studies when Jup aspects your VL to the degree or 6

deg orb. Or maybe the VL lord aspecting the VL itself.

[Visti] No.

SJ: Sorry to hear that answer although logically it should, but still thanks for

the answerThanking you,Sunil JohnP.S: I shall reply to your previous letter and

also Gauranga's tom as I am not well right now, kindly bear.

[Visti] Sorry to hear hope to see you recuperate soon.

SJ: I am bit better now, thanks for ur well wishes.

 

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Dear Ramesh,

I do not have writeup on it, Visti had given me good hints on it and

asked me to present a research paper to him which unfortunately I

haven't been able to do it due to time constraints and later I got

diverted into Nadi techniques.

BTW Barbara K is going to present a paper in US on Varnada Lagna and

she surely would eb coming with something interesting I am sure, i

would suggest you buy the CDs on it or try to procure that material

for future reference.

best joy

Sunil

 

vedic astrology, "Ramesh Gangaramani"

<ramesh.gangaramani@a...> wrote:

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visti, Sunil,

> Do you have any write up on the technique of timing a job from VL?

I am keen

> to know more about it.

> Regards

> Ramesh

>

> Sunil John [jjnet2000_in]

> Wednesday, June 30, 2004 10:36 AM

> vedic astrology

> Cc: visti@s...

> [vedic astrology] Varnada Lagna discussion with Shri

Visti

>

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Pranam

>

> Thanks for ur compassionate reply, pls find my humble queries

below

>

> Dear Shri Visti,

> Namaskar

>

> Thanks for making this an interesting discussion. Pls allow me to

ask

> some basic queries.

> 1.Is the formula given by you different to what's used in JHL

>

> [Visti] The Formula is the same, only it does not use degrees

like JHora

> does.

>

> SJ: Thanks for this

>

> 2.What Sunrise definition do you use for HL cal.

>

> [Visti] Apparent Upper Limb.

>

> SJ: I presume here u are referring to the tip of the Suns disk

appears to

> be on the eastern horizon.

>

> 3.Since Jyotish is a karmic act or in other sense "a way of doing

of

> our karma" does the VL technique of seeing Jyotish abilities

should

> be more looked into the D10 or only Rasi.

>

> [Visti] VL has NOTHING to do with abilities. In shows what

sustains you.

> This is the 2nd time you ask me this. VL in Rdgi seems sufficient

for now.

>

> SJ: I am sorry, as u know it takes me Triple time to grasp things

than the

> average student, but i was thinking that ones abilities is what

makes one

> sustain. But i guess in some cases it need not be true.

>

> I was hoping that u would take up D10 in this area

>

> I was trying to look at ur chart this morning, but somehow it is

not in my

> Pc, can u be kind to resend it.

>

>

>

> 4. I have lagna Ge and HL in Leo, so adding 3+5=8, so should the

VL

> be 8th from Aries or 8th from Ge Lagna, my confusion lies here,

pls

> guide.

>

> [Visti] 8th from Aries. Remember I timed your job from this.

>

> SJ: Yes u were bingo on timing the job, and after that i have lot

of

> beleif in this technique which u taught, although I feel their is

more to it

> and one can use the degs of VL also to a major extent - just my

thoughts,

>

> oh wow i just checked Visti, the deg of VL and the giving

planets dega

> was right on spot, bingo on the day it happened. What do u feel can

the degs

> be used for timing although this is one solo case and statistical

research

> needs to be carried out.

>

> My good friend Partha was also right on although he used another

> technique, which technique i havent been able to understand yet.

>

> If i take the VL lord Mars then it was passing thro 0 bindu in

its BAV and

> also its deb sign, Mars also being the Dasa lord.

>

>

> o Rasi or Graha dristi OR should we look at their influence

> Rasi/Graha on the 'Lord' of the 11th from VL.

>

> [Visti] Rdgi deqvi and look at both the sign and lord. The Lord

indicates

> that which you are guided to do.

>

> SJ: thanks

>

> i you have many yrs of experience in Jyotish and must have

> keenly observed your own ups and downs in Jyotish studies, have

you

> seen some exaltation in ur Jyotish studies when Jup aspects your

VL

> to the degree or 6 deg orb. Or maybe the VL lord aspecting the VL

> itself.

>

> [Visti] No.

>

> SJ: Sorry to hear that answer although logically it should, but

still

> thanks for the answer

>

> Thanking you,

>

> Sunil John

> P.S: I shall reply to your previous letter and also Gauranga's

tom as

> I am not well right now, kindly bear.

>

> [Visti] Sorry to hear hope to see you recuperate soon.

>

> SJ: I am bit better now, thanks for ur well wishes.

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Dear Sunil,

Namaskar

A quote from

a book;

 

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">…the professions or

status/positions the native takes on are seen from the Lagna and Ärüòha Lagna.

Here it is pertinent to understand that ones profession and occupation are two

separate things; Business psychologists deal with the behavior of clients

towards products, whilst private psychologists help people out of their mental

abnormalities. However; in both cases the profession/title is that of a

psychologist, hence the differentiation.

Planets

joining, lording and/or having Räçi dåñöi on the Lagna or Ärüòha Lagna

will indicate which traits the native identifies themselves with and hence

which professions they will enter.

If

the identified grahas are also in trines in the Navämça, those professions

will last.

Examples

Chart 112: Lata Mangeskar – Singer  (September 28,

1929, 22:30:00, 5:30:00 (East of GMT)( 75 E 50', 22 N 43'))

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Let us identify the profession of this

native.

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">The Varëada lagna is in Taurus, and the

11th from it is unoccupied. The lord Jupiter indicates the main profession

as a Brahmin. This could be a teacher, priest, singer, actor, writer, etc.

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Now let us list out the planets which

associate with the Lagna and Ärüòha lagna. Jupiter, Moon, Mars the nodes and

Venus associate with the lagna and Ärüòha lagna.

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Among these, Jupiter, Ketu and the Moon

are placed in the trines to Navämça lagna. Jupiter can indicate a profession as

a teacher, ketu as a mathematician however Ketu in 6th will not

prove auspicious, whilst Moon indicates a profession as a singer or vocalist.

12.0pt;font-family:"URW Palladio IT"">Among these the moon is strongest due to

its position in own sign, and will dominate due to the native finding most

comfort (Svakñetra) in that profession.

 

I also taught

this in the Nagpur

conference – this was taught by Guruji in New Jersey 2003 and in Puri

2004.

Best wishes,

 

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visti (AT) (DOT) org

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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Sunil John

[jjnet2000_in ]

30 June 2004 08:36

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Cc: visti (AT) (DOT) org

Varnada Lagna discussion

with Shri Visti

12.0pt">

font-family:"Times New Roman";color:red">Dear Visti,

font-family:"Times New Roman";color:red">Pranam

font-family:"Times New Roman";color:red">Thanks for ur compassionate reply, pls find my humble

queries below

Dear Shri Visti,

Namaskar

Thanks

for making this an interesting discussion. Pls allow me to ask

some

basic queries.

1.Is

the formula given by you different to what's used in JHL

font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:navy;font-style:italic">[Visti] The Formula

is the same, only it does not use degrees like JHora does.

color:#FF007F">SJ: Thanks for this

2.What

Sunrise

definition do you use for HL cal.

font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">[Visti]

Apparent Upper Limb.

color:#FF007F">SJ: I presume here u are referring to the tip of the Suns disk

appears to be on the eastern horizon.

3.Since

Jyotish is a karmic act or in other sense "a way of doing of

our

karma" does the VL technique of seeing Jyotish abilities should

be

more looked into the D10 or only Rasi.

font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:navy;font-style:italic">[Visti] VL has

NOTHING to do with abilities. In shows what sustains you. This is the 2nd

time you ask me this. VL in Rdgi seems sufficient for now.

color:#FF007F">SJ: I am sorry, as u know it takes me Triple time to grasp

things than the average student, but i was thinking that ones abilities is what

makes one sustain. But i guess in some cases it need not be true.

color:#FF007F">I was hoping that u would take up D10 in this area

color:#FF007F">I was trying to look at ur

chart this morning, but somehow it is not in my Pc, can u be kind to resend it.

4.

I have lagna Ge and HL in Leo, so adding 3+5=8, so should the VL

be

8th from Aries or 8th from Ge Lagna, my confusion lies here, pls

guide.

font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">[Visti]

8th from Aries. Remember I timed your job from this.

color:#FF007F">SJ: Yes u were bingo on timing the job, and after that i have

lot of beleif in this technique which u taught, although I feel their is more

to it and one can use the degs of VL also to a major extent - just my thoughts,

color:#FF007F">oh wow i just checked Visti, the deg of VL and the giving

planets dega was right on spot, bingo on the day it happened. What do u feel

can the degs be used for timing although this is one solo case and statistical

research needs to be carried out.

color:#FF007F">My good friend Partha was also right on although he used

another technique, which technique i havent been able to understand yet.

color:#FF007F">If i take the VL lord Mars then it was passing thro 0 bindu in

its BAV and also its deb sign, Mars also being the Dasa lord.

font-family:"Courier New"">

o

Rasi or Graha dristi OR should we look at their influence

Rasi/Graha

on the 'Lord' of the 11th from VL.

font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">[Visti]

Rdgi deqvi and look at both the sign and lord. The Lord indicates that which

you are guided to do.

color:#FF007F">SJ: thanks

i

you have many yrs of experience in Jyotish and must have

keenly

observed your own ups and downs in Jyotish studies, have you

seen

some exaltation in ur

Jyotish studies when Jup aspects your VL

to

the degree or 6 deg orb. Or maybe the VL lord aspecting the VL

itself.

font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic">[Visti]

No.

color:#FF007F">SJ: Sorry to hear that answer although logically it should, but

still thanks for the answer

Thanking

you,

13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"">

Sunil

John

13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New"">

P.S:

I shall reply to your previous letter and also Gauranga's tom as

I

am not well right now, kindly bear.

font-family:"URW Palladio IT";color:navy;font-style:italic">[Visti] Sorry to

hear  hope to see you recuperate soon.

color:#FF007F">SJ: I am bit better now, thanks for ur well wishes.

 

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Namaste Guru's and Learned Members,

 

As Visti Ji mentioned in this message and taken the birth

details of Lata Mangeskar as : September 28, 1929, 22:30:00,

5:30:00 (East of GMT)( 75 E 50', 22 N 43')

 

But I have the birth time as 21:51:00,

 

Can some one please confirm what is teh correct birth

time please.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Regards

Raghunadha Rao

 

vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008>

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Namaste Guru's and Learned Members,

>

> As Visti Ji mentioned in this message and taken the birth

> details of Lata Mangeskar as : September 28, 1929, 22:30:00,

> 5:30:00 (East of GMT)( 75 E 50', 22 N 43')

>

> But I have the birth time as 21:51:00 AM,

>

> Can some one please confirm what is teh correct birth

> time please.

>

> Thanks for your help in advance.

>

> Regards

> Raghunadha Rao

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

> >

> > Dear Sunil, Namaskar

> >

> > A quote from a book;

> >

> >

> >

> > …the professions or status/positions the native takes on are seen

> from the

> > Lagna and Ärüòha Lagna. Here it is pertinent to understand that

ones

> > profession and occupation are two separate things; Business

> psychologists

> > deal with the behavior of clients towards products, whilst private

> > psychologists help people out of their mental abnormalities.

> However; in

> > both cases the profession/title is that of a psychologist, hence

the

> > differentiation.

> >

> > * Planets joining, lording and/or having Räçi dåñöi on the

> Lagna or

> > Ärüòha Lagna will indicate which traits the native identifies

> themselves

> > with and hence which professions they will enter.

> > * If the identified grahas are also in trines in the Navämça,

> those

> > professions will last.

> >

> >

> > Examples

> >

> >

> > Chart 112: Lata Mangeskar – Singer (September 28, 1929,

22:30:00,

> 5:30:00

> > (East of GMT)( 75 E 50', 22 N 43'))

> >

> > Let us identify the profession of this native.

> >

> > The Varëada lagna is in Taurus, and the 11th from it is

unoccupied.

> The lord

> > Jupiter indicates the main profession as a Brahmin. This could be

a

> teacher,

> > priest, singer, actor, writer, etc.

> >

> > Now let us list out the planets which associate with the Lagna

and

> Ärüòha

> > lagna. Jupiter, Moon, Mars the nodes and Venus associate with the

> lagna and

> > Ärüòha lagna.

> >

> > Among these, Jupiter, Ketu and the Moon are placed in the trines

to

> Navämça

> > lagna. Jupiter can indicate a profession as a teacher, ketu as a

> > mathematician however Ketu in 6th will not prove auspicious,

whilst

> Moon

> > indicates a profession as a singer or vocalist.

> >

> > Among these the moon is strongest due to its position in own

sign,

> and will

> > dominate due to the native finding most comfort (Svakñetra) in

that

> > profession.

> >

> >

> >

> > I also taught this in the Nagpur conference – this was taught by

> Guruji in

> > New Jersey 2003 and in Puri 2004.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Sunil John [jjnet2000_in]

> > 30 June 2004 08:36

> > vedic astrology

> > Cc: visti@s...

> > Varnada Lagna discussion with Shri Visti

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > Pranam

> >

> > Thanks for ur compassionate reply, pls find my humble queries

below

> >

> > Dear Shri Visti,

> > Namaskar

> >

> > Thanks for making this an interesting discussion. Pls allow me to

> ask

> > some basic queries.

> > 1.Is the formula given by you different to what's used in JHL

> >

> > [Visti] The Formula is the same, only it does not use degrees

like

> JHora

> > does.

> >

> > SJ: Thanks for this

> >

> > 2.What Sunrise definition do you use for HL cal.

> >

> > [Visti] Apparent Upper Limb.

> >

> > SJ: I presume here u are referring to the tip of the Suns disk

> appears to be

> > on the eastern horizon.

> >

> > 3.Since Jyotish is a karmic act or in other sense "a way of doing

> of

> > our karma" does the VL technique of seeing Jyotish abilities

should

> > be more looked into the D10 or only Rasi.

> >

> > [Visti] VL has NOTHING to do with abilities. In shows what

sustains

> you.

> > This is the 2nd time you ask me this. VL in Rdgi seems sufficient

> for now.

> >

> > SJ: I am sorry, as u know it takes me Triple time to grasp things

> than the

> > average student, but i was thinking that ones abilities is what

> makes one

> > sustain. But i guess in some cases it need not be true.

> >

> > I was hoping that u would take up D10 in this area

> >

> > I was trying to look at ur chart this morning, but somehow it is

> not in my

> > Pc, can u be kind to resend it.

> >

> >

> >

> > 4. I have lagna Ge and HL in Leo, so adding 3+5=8, so should the

VL

> > be 8th from Aries or 8th from Ge Lagna, my confusion lies here,

pls

> > guide.

> >

> > [Visti] 8th from Aries. Remember I timed your job from this.

> >

> > SJ: Yes u were bingo on timing the job, and after that i have lot

> of beleif

> > in this technique which u taught, although I feel their is more

to

> it and

> > one can use the degs of VL also to a major extent - just my

> thoughts,

> >

> > oh wow i just checked Visti, the deg of VL and the giving

planets

> dega was

> > right on spot, bingo on the day it happened. What do u feel can

the

> degs be

> > used for timing although this is one solo case and statistical

> research

> > needs to be carried out.

> >

> > My good friend Partha was also right on although he used another

> technique,

> > which technique i havent been able to understand yet.

> >

> > If i take the VL lord Mars then it was passing thro 0 bindu in

its

> BAV and

> > also its deb sign, Mars also being the Dasa lord.

> >

> >

> > o Rasi or Graha dristi OR should we look at their influence

> > Rasi/Graha on the 'Lord' of the 11th from VL.

> >

> > [Visti] Rdgi deqvi and look at both the sign and lord. The Lord

> indicates

> > that which you are guided to do.

> >

> > SJ: thanks

> >

> > i you have many yrs of experience in Jyotish and must have

> > keenly observed your own ups and downs in Jyotish studies, have

you

> > seen some exaltation in ur Jyotish studies when Jup aspects your

VL

> > to the degree or 6 deg orb. Or maybe the VL lord aspecting the VL

> > itself.

> >

> > [Visti] No.

> >

> > SJ: Sorry to hear that answer although logically it should, but

> still thanks

> > for the answer

> >

> > Thanking you,

> >

> > Sunil John

> > P.S: I shall reply to your previous letter and also Gauranga's

tom

> as

> > I am not well right now, kindly bear.

> >

> > [Visti] Sorry to hear hope to see you recuperate soon.

> >

> > SJ: I am bit better now, thanks for ur well wishes.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

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Dear Visti,

You have vast knowledge about Varnada Lagna. I have adoubt about lata

Mangeshkar case that you have analysed. You have stated amongst

professions of Brahmins Singer and Actor. As a matter of fact, if I

remember right these were of those belonging to lower classes. These

were not the professions of Brahmins as far as I know. May I know the

fererence text on astrology that states this?

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Visti Larsen wrote:

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|Hare

Räma Kåñëa|

Dear

Sunil,

Namaskar

A

quote from

a book;

 

…the

professions or

status/positions the native takes on are seen from the Lagna and Ärüòha

Lagna.

Here it is pertinent to understand that ones profession and occupation

are two

separate things; Business psychologists deal with the behavior of

clients

towards products, whilst private psychologists help people out of their

mental

abnormalities. However; in both cases the profession/title is that of a

psychologist, hence the differentiation.

Planets

joining, lording and/or having Räçi dåñöi on the Lagna or Ärüòha Lagna

will indicate which traits the native identifies themselves with and

hence which professions they will enter.

If the

identified grahas are also in trines in the Navämça, those professions

will last.

Examples

Chart 112: Lata Mangeskar – Singer

(September 28,

1929, 22:30:00, 5:30:00 (East of GMT)( 75

E 50', 22 N 43'))

Let us

identify the profession of this

native.

The Varëada

lagna is in Taurus, and the

11th from it is unoccupied. The lord Jupiter indicates the

main profession

as a Brahmin. This could be a teacher, priest, singer, actor, writer,

etc.

Now let us

list out the planets which

associate with the Lagna and Ärüòha lagna. Jupiter, Moon, Mars the

nodes and

Venus associate with the lagna and Ärüòha lagna.

Among these,

Jupiter, Ketu and the Moon

are placed in the trines to Navämça lagna. Jupiter can indicate a

profession as

a teacher, ketu as a mathematician however Ketu in 6th will

not

prove auspicious, whilst Moon indicates a profession as a singer or

vocalist.

Among these

the moon is strongest due to

its position in own sign, and will dominate due to the native finding

most

comfort (Svakñetra) in that profession.

 

I

also taught

this in the Nagpur

conference – this was taught by Guruji in New Jersey 2003 and in Puri

2004.

Best

wishes,

 

Visti Larsen

visti (AT) (DOT) org

 

 

 

Sunil John

[jjnet2000_in ]

30 June 2004

08:36

To:

vedic astrology

Cc:

visti (AT) (DOT) org

Varnada Lagna

discussion

with Shri Visti

 

Dear

Visti,

Pranam

Thanks

for ur

compassionate reply, pls find my humble

queries below

Dear Shri Visti,

Namaskar

Thanks

for making this an interesting discussion. Pls allow me to ask

some

basic queries.

1.Is

the formula given by you different to what's used in JHL

[Visti]

The Formula

is the same, only it does not use degrees like JHora does.

SJ: Thanks for this

2.What

Sunrise

definition do you use for HL cal.

[Visti]

Apparent Upper Limb.

SJ: I presume here

u are referring to the tip of the Suns disk

appears to be on the eastern horizon.

3.Since

Jyotish is a karmic act or in other sense "a way of doing of

our

karma" does the VL technique of seeing Jyotish abilities should

be

more looked into the D10 or only Rasi.

[Visti]

VL has

NOTHING to do with abilities. In shows what sustains you. This is the 2nd

time you ask me this. VL in Rdgi seems sufficient for now.

SJ: I am sorry, as

u know it takes me Triple time to grasp

things than the average student, but i was thinking that ones abilities

is what

makes one sustain. But i guess in some cases it need not be true.

I was hoping that

u would take up D10 in this area

I was trying to

look at ur

chart this morning, but somehow it is not in my Pc, can u be kind to

resend it.

4.

I have lagna Ge and HL in Leo, so adding 3+5=8, so should the VL

be

8th from Aries or 8th from Ge Lagna, my confusion lies here, pls

guide.

[Visti]

8th from Aries. Remember I timed your job from this.

SJ: Yes u were

bingo on timing the job, and after that i have

lot of beleif in this technique which u taught, although I feel their

is more

to it and one can use the degs of VL also to a major extent - just my

thoughts,

oh wow i just

checked Visti, the deg of VL and the giving

planets dega was right on spot, bingo on the day it happened. What do u

feel

can the degs be used for timing although this is one solo case and

statistical

research needs to be carried out.

My good friend

Partha was also right on although he used

another technique, which technique i havent been able to understand yet.

If i take the VL

lord Mars then it was passing thro 0 bindu in

its BAV and also its deb sign, Mars also being the Dasa lord.

o

Rasi or Graha dristi OR should we look at their influence

Rasi/Graha

on the 'Lord' of the 11th from VL.

[Visti]

Rdgi deqvi and look at both the sign and lord. The Lord indicates that

which

you are guided to do.

SJ: thanks

i

you have many yrs of experience in Jyotish and must have

keenly

observed your own ups and downs in Jyotish studies, have you

seen

some exaltation in ur

Jyotish studies when Jup aspects your VL

to

the degree or 6 deg orb. Or maybe the VL lord aspecting the VL

itself.

[Visti]

No.

SJ: Sorry to hear

that answer although logically it should, but

still thanks for the answer

Thanking

you,

Sunil

John

P.S:

I shall reply to your previous letter and also Gauranga's tom as

I

am not well right now, kindly bear.

[Visti]

Sorry to

hear hope to see you recuperate soon.

SJ: I am bit

better now, thanks for ur

well wishes.

 

 

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Dear Raghunadha

The navamsa lagna has to be Leo with the Moon in trines joining the AK that

makes her such a big Durga bhakta, Shiva upasaka and a singer. You can

correct the time accordingly

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com

 

-

"Rao Nemani" <raon1008

<vedic astrology>

Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:30 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna discussion with Shri Visti

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna

 

Namaste Guru's and Learned Members,

 

As Visti Ji mentioned in this message and taken the birth

details of Lata Mangeskar as : September 28, 1929, 22:30:00,

5:30:00 (East of GMT)( 75 E 50', 22 N 43')

 

But I have the birth time as 21:51:00,

 

Can some one please confirm what is teh correct birth

time please.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Regards

Raghunadha Rao

 

vedic astrology, "Rao Nemani" <raon1008>

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> Namaste Guru's and Learned Members,

>

> As Visti Ji mentioned in this message and taken the birth

> details of Lata Mangeskar as : September 28, 1929, 22:30:00,

> 5:30:00 (East of GMT)( 75 E 50', 22 N 43')

>

> But I have the birth time as 21:51:00 AM,

>

> Can some one please confirm what is teh correct birth

> time please.

>

> Thanks for your help in advance.

>

> Regards

> Raghunadha Rao

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

> >

> > Dear Sunil, Namaskar

> >

> > A quote from a book;

> >

> >

> >

> > …the professions or status/positions the native takes on are seen

> from the

> > Lagna and Ärüòha Lagna. Here it is pertinent to understand that

ones

> > profession and occupation are two separate things; Business

> psychologists

> > deal with the behavior of clients towards products, whilst private

> > psychologists help people out of their mental abnormalities.

> However; in

> > both cases the profession/title is that of a psychologist, hence

the

> > differentiation.

> >

> > * Planets joining, lording and/or having Räçi dåñöi on the

> Lagna or

> > Ärüòha Lagna will indicate which traits the native identifies

> themselves

> > with and hence which professions they will enter.

> > * If the identified grahas are also in trines in the Navämça,

> those

> > professions will last.

> >

> >

> > Examples

> >

> >

> > Chart 112: Lata Mangeskar – Singer (September 28, 1929,

22:30:00,

> 5:30:00

> > (East of GMT)( 75 E 50', 22 N 43'))

> >

> > Let us identify the profession of this native.

> >

> > The Varëada lagna is in Taurus, and the 11th from it is

unoccupied.

> The lord

> > Jupiter indicates the main profession as a Brahmin. This could be

a

> teacher,

> > priest, singer, actor, writer, etc.

> >

> > Now let us list out the planets which associate with the Lagna

and

> Ärüòha

> > lagna. Jupiter, Moon, Mars the nodes and Venus associate with the

> lagna and

> > Ärüòha lagna.

> >

> > Among these, Jupiter, Ketu and the Moon are placed in the trines

to

> Navämça

> > lagna. Jupiter can indicate a profession as a teacher, ketu as a

> > mathematician however Ketu in 6th will not prove auspicious,

whilst

> Moon

> > indicates a profession as a singer or vocalist.

> >

> > Among these the moon is strongest due to its position in own

sign,

> and will

> > dominate due to the native finding most comfort (Svakñetra) in

that

> > profession.

> >

> >

> >

> > I also taught this in the Nagpur conference – this was taught by

> Guruji in

> > New Jersey 2003 and in Puri 2004.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> > <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Sunil John [jjnet2000_in]

> > 30 June 2004 08:36

> > vedic astrology

> > Cc: visti@s...

> > Varnada Lagna discussion with Shri Visti

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> > Pranam

> >

> > Thanks for ur compassionate reply, pls find my humble queries

below

> >

> > Dear Shri Visti,

> > Namaskar

> >

> > Thanks for making this an interesting discussion. Pls allow me to

> ask

> > some basic queries.

> > 1.Is the formula given by you different to what's used in JHL

> >

> > [Visti] The Formula is the same, only it does not use degrees

like

> JHora

> > does.

> >

> > SJ: Thanks for this

> >

> > 2.What Sunrise definition do you use for HL cal.

> >

> > [Visti] Apparent Upper Limb.

> >

> > SJ: I presume here u are referring to the tip of the Suns disk

> appears to be

> > on the eastern horizon.

> >

> > 3.Since Jyotish is a karmic act or in other sense "a way of doing

> of

> > our karma" does the VL technique of seeing Jyotish abilities

should

> > be more looked into the D10 or only Rasi.

> >

> > [Visti] VL has NOTHING to do with abilities. In shows what

sustains

> you.

> > This is the 2nd time you ask me this. VL in Rdgi seems sufficient

> for now.

> >

> > SJ: I am sorry, as u know it takes me Triple time to grasp things

> than the

> > average student, but i was thinking that ones abilities is what

> makes one

> > sustain. But i guess in some cases it need not be true.

> >

> > I was hoping that u would take up D10 in this area

> >

> > I was trying to look at ur chart this morning, but somehow it is

> not in my

> > Pc, can u be kind to resend it.

> >

> >

> >

> > 4. I have lagna Ge and HL in Leo, so adding 3+5=8, so should the

VL

> > be 8th from Aries or 8th from Ge Lagna, my confusion lies here,

pls

> > guide.

> >

> > [Visti] 8th from Aries. Remember I timed your job from this.

> >

> > SJ: Yes u were bingo on timing the job, and after that i have lot

> of beleif

> > in this technique which u taught, although I feel their is more

to

> it and

> > one can use the degs of VL also to a major extent - just my

> thoughts,

> >

> > oh wow i just checked Visti, the deg of VL and the giving

planets

> dega was

> > right on spot, bingo on the day it happened. What do u feel can

the

> degs be

> > used for timing although this is one solo case and statistical

> research

> > needs to be carried out.

> >

> > My good friend Partha was also right on although he used another

> technique,

> > which technique i havent been able to understand yet.

> >

> > If i take the VL lord Mars then it was passing thro 0 bindu in

its

> BAV and

> > also its deb sign, Mars also being the Dasa lord.

> >

> >

> > o Rasi or Graha dristi OR should we look at their influence

> > Rasi/Graha on the 'Lord' of the 11th from VL.

> >

> > [Visti] Rdgi deqvi and look at both the sign and lord. The Lord

> indicates

> > that which you are guided to do.

> >

> > SJ: thanks

> >

> > i you have many yrs of experience in Jyotish and must have

> > keenly observed your own ups and downs in Jyotish studies, have

you

> > seen some exaltation in ur Jyotish studies when Jup aspects your

VL

> > to the degree or 6 deg orb. Or maybe the VL lord aspecting the VL

> > itself.

> >

> > [Visti] No.

> >

> > SJ: Sorry to hear that answer although logically it should, but

> still thanks

> > for the answer

> >

> > Thanking you,

> >

> > Sunil John

> > P.S: I shall reply to your previous letter and also Gauranga's

tom

> as

> > I am not well right now, kindly bear.

> >

> > [Visti] Sorry to hear hope to see you recuperate soon.

> >

> > SJ: I am bit better now, thanks for ur well wishes.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

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