Parivartan Yoga, Sarajit and Chadrashekharji

[Guest guest]

Dear Ramesh,

I would not think parivartana leads to NBY. Navamsha debilitation

overrules even exaltation in Natal chart.

Chandrashekhar.

Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Sarajit and Chadrashekharji,

 

There is a mention in the below mentioned mail about

neechabhanga in case of parivartana. I am analyzing a case where the

native a Libra Asc, has exchange between LL Venus and 11L Sun. I would like to

reconfirm if

the debilitation of of Sun would be cancelled only on account of

Parivartana.

 

One of the other conditions for cancellation fulfilled is

that Saturn which gets exalted in Libra is in kendra.

 

The irony is that both Sun and Venus are debilitated in D9.

Sun meets conditions NBRY and Venus 12L has parivartana with Mercury 4L

in D9. Would the debilitation of Venus be cancelled in D9 on account of

this parivartana?

 

For privartana yoga the planets involved are deemed to be in

their own houses. Would Mercury in D9 then give the effect of being

exalted? It is exalted in D1 already.

 

What would be the overall assessment of strengths of Sun,

Venus and Mercury? Parivartana between LL and 11L would be very good

for materialistic gains, as per BPHS, it should make the native very

wealthy at the age of 33! Would the yoga fructify?

 

There is also an issue involved about marriage. The native

(female) is a divorcee. The first marriage lasted only a few moths. Her

father is looking for a suitable alliance and is keen to see

her settled.

 

Her chart is attached.

 

October 20, 1975

Time: 8:30:00 AM

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Longitude: 73 E 13' 00"

Latitude: 22 N 18' 00"

Kind regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

Sarajit Poddar [sarajitp ]

Thursday, July 29, 2004 6:02 AM

Rajat Bhatia; vedic astrology

[vedic astrology] Re: Judging Effects of Parivartan

Yoga

|| Jaya Jagannath ||

Dear Rajat,

 

Please follow my comments below:

Rajat Bhatia <bentleyclothing > wrote:

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Sarajit,

Thanks for explaining it so nicely.Please help me understand even

better.

What I understand now is that Association or Sambandh of planets, by

way of conjunction, mutual aspect, exchange etc leads to exchange of

qualities between the planets.This exchange is strongest in case of

Sthaan Parivartan.

[sarajit] Correct

This exchange occurs in respect of natural qualities as well temporal.

Thus, the natural malefic benefits by associating with a natural

benefic whereas benefic suffers by getting some malefic qualities.

[sarajit] Exactly. The effect on the natural qualities can be

seen throughout on the nature of the person, whereas the functional

natures can be seen during appropriate dasas.

Similarly, a benefic temporal lord if in exchange with a malefic

temporal lord will lose its benefic qualities and its dasa may not be

good.On the other hand, temporal malefic may do good.

[sarajit] Correct

Is my understanding correct?

Now, applying the above principles to the Taurus Asc with Jupiter in

Capricorn and Saturn in pisces, exchange will be two prong --- of

natural qualities and temporal.

[sarajit] Right

Thus, Jupiter will gain by being in exchange with a good temporal lord

and achieve neechbhanga.

[sarajit] Yes

Secondly,the exchange of natural qualities will give results similar to

effects of Jup-Sat conjunction.

[sarajit] Yes. The native shall see suffering to mature to a

wise person.

But, will Saturn suffer in this exchange because Jupiter is debilitated

?Will this show in saturn periods ?

[sarajit] Saturn's period would de good as any malefic

associating with a benefic loses its tinge of maleficence. Jupiter dasa

would make the person see sorrows as the yoga Jupiter- Saturn indicate

that. However the houses ruled byJup, 8th and the 11th does not suffer

as it would, had there been no exchange.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

Best regards,

Rajat

vedic astrology, Sarajit Poddar wrote:

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Ramesh,

>

> I do not think that the Chara Karakatva of the planets can change

as the exchange is more due to the virtue of lordship of signs. However

since the yoga exists, any yoga involving the chara-karakatva such as

AK-PK, AK-PiK etc. shall also give the results of Rajayoga. So even if

there is an exchange of AK with others, it will still show difficulties

in Vimshottari Dasa and excellance in Naryana Dasa.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> Ramesh Gangaramani wrote:

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Sarajitji,

>

> This is an interesting dimension. I have a related query. Does the

exchange also affect the chara karka characteristics? e.g. what if

there is an exchange betwee! n AK and AmK?

> How would they behave during Vimsottari and Narayana Dasas?

Vimsottari dasa of AK is usually difficult and Narayana Dasa of Rashi

containing AK bring in great achievements!

>

> Regards

> Ramesh

>

> Sarajit Poddar [sarajitp]

> Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:13 AM

> vedic astrology

> Re: [vedic astrology] Judging Effects of Parivartan Yoga

>

>

> || Jaya Jagannath ||

> Dear Rajat,

>

> Yep... long time we have been out of touch. Thanks for the

varahamihira pages... I update it regularly... so keep visting.

>

> About the Parivartana... You know there are various yogas or

associations... among all such associations, the parivartana is the

strongest ones. With each associations, there is exchange of qualities

and since the parivartana is the strongest of all associations, the

exchange of qual! ities are substantial. Such planets behave as if they

are placed in own houses and give the results of planets they are

exhanged with.

>

> About the natural qualities of the planet..,. As you know there

are natural yogas which form by the virtue of their natural qualities

such as Sun- Jupiter, Mars- Jupiter, Moon- Jupiter are all good yogas

and Saturn- Mars, Rahu- Sun etc. are inauspicious yogas. These yogas

not only happen due to conjunction, but shall happen due to exhange and

mutual aspects also... The results of such associations would be felt

in exchange too.. and the benefic shall give malefic results and vice-

versa.

>

> About the results of exchange based on the functional nature...

just interpret it as if they are conjoined and there is transfer of

functional role among the planets... If there is an exchange between

Piscies/ Sagittarius and Capricorn lords... such cases... Jupiter will

have neechabhanga because of exchange and the significations of !

Jupiter shall flourish after initial setback..

>

> Hope this clears your doubt.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

>

> Rajat Bhatia wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Kishna

>

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Hi...longtime no talk.I much appreciate your Varahamihira pages.

>

> Could you elaborate on basic principles in judging Parivartan of

> planets.As far as I understand, when two planets sit in each

other's

> signs, they have a sort of pact between them, that "you look after

my

> house and I look after your house".They are in a way placed as if

in

> their own houses. Thus, this leads to good results.Ofcourse, we do

> have to keep in mind that the exchange is not between a good house

and

> an evil house as this creats Dur Yoga.

>

> Main queries are :

>

> 1. If the exchange of signs happen between natural enemies, how

will

> we judge?

>

> 2.What will happen when one of the participating planet is

> debilitated, for example take Taurus Lagna, Saturn goes to 11th

house

> in Pisces and Jupiter debilitat! es in 9th house.Will this help

Jupiter

> in overcoming debilitation and give better results due to exchange?

>

> Best regards,

>

> Rajat

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

vedic astrology-

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to

vedic astrology-

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

>

>

>

> Sponsor

>

>

>

> Links

>

>

> vedic astrology/

>

>

> vedic astrology

>

> Terms of

Service.

>

>

>

>

>

> Mail is new and improved - Check it out!

 

Mail is new and improved - Check

it out!