Can we Use DECEASED'S horoscope to predict Post Morten events of his Family ?

August 28, 2004

Dear shri.Tatvam-Asi.

After the demise of a person , His horoscope becomes obsolete and redundant.In

case of an Hindu undivided family as the saying goes “ jestta bratha prethuru

sama” we may look into the eldest’s horoscope.

With regards,

D.SathiyanarayanaGupta.nameisego <nameisego > wrote:

Dear Friends,During Dhyana yesterday night, self was confronted with this doubt

that,"Can a dead person's Horoscope indicate future events of his children's

life?"Undersigned will surely investigate during the course of the day (As it

is 6.05 am ) and post his findings. But the ball is in your court for those of

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August 28, 2004

Dear D.SathiyanarayanaGupta ji Namste

How about those who get Bharat Ratna award posthumously >30 years

after death? Can we now tell when Mahatma Gandhiji/Ravindranath

Thakur will get Bharat Ratna Award looking at their chart?

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

Prabodh Vekhande

vedic astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta

<gupta816> wrote:

>

> Dear shri.Tatvam-Asi.

>

> After the demise of a person , His horoscope becomes obsolete and

redundant.In case of an Hindu undivided family as the saying goes "

jestta bratha prethuru sama" we may look into the eldest's horoscope.

>

> With regards,

>

> >

>

> nameisego <nameisego> wrote:

> Dear Friends,

>

> During Dhyana yesterday night, self was confronted with this

doubt

> that,

> "Can a dead person's Horoscope indicate future events of his

> children's life?"

>

> Undersigned will surely investigate during the course of the day

(As

> it is 6.05 am ) and post his findings. But the ball is in your

court

> for those of you who are in western hemisphere to dwell on this

issue.

>

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August 28, 2004

Namaste,

There were examples in which I could satisfactorily time events in

the lives of wife and children after a native passed away, using

Vimsottari dasa. There were also examples where I was not satisfied.

My two cents are that Vimsottari dasa stops working soon after death

in some charts and several years later in others.

Vimsottari dasa shows how mind views things around it. Does the mind

die immediately after the body dies or can it exist for some more

years, before soul is separated from mind and mind has to decay like

the body? THAT is the core underlying question. Different scholars

may have different views.

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

> Dear Friends,

>

> During Dhyana yesterday night, self was confronted with this

doubt

> that,

> "Can a dead person's Horoscope indicate future events of his

> children's life?"

>

> Undersigned will surely investigate during the course of the day

(As

> it is 6.05 am ) and post his findings. But the ball is in your

court

> for those of you who are in western hemisphere to dwell on this

issue.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

August 30, 2004

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Namaste Tattwam - Asi,

When a person is alive and from his chart everything about his children can be

told, even the person is died, the futures of his children are indicated in his

Horoscope.The reason behind this here many clients are coming to me and asking

many questions in life and when I was telling some events happened in their

Fathers'life by looking into their charts,they agreed with me by many

events.But during such periods,I found their Father was not alive.So If a dead

Father's chart can be delineated from a living son/daughter's chart, why not

from a dead father's chart reveal about the future of his son/ s ? Ofcourse

some research has to be done on this.

These are my opinions and other may differ but still can be tried.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

nameisego <nameisego > wrote: Dear Friends,During Dhyana yesterday

night, self was confronted with this doubt that,"Can a dead person's Horoscope

indicate future events of his children's life?"Undersigned will surely

investigate during the course of the day (As it is 6.05 am ) and post his

findings. But the ball is in your court for those of you who are in western

hemisphere to dwell on this issue.Tatvam-AsiArchives:

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August 30, 2004

Dear Narasimha and list

Namaste. Has anyone done research with charts of people who have long

gone into coma? I think such cases are akin to being brain dead! Is

their mind dead as well? What combinations bring about a coma? Coma

doesn't always result in death. A few I believe have kicked back to"life".

Are there any charts available?

Best wishes

R. Kasthuri Rangan

August 30, 2004

Dear shri.Prabodh Vekhande,

For He who has attained mokhsha and reached the abode of God, the non celestial

awards, would not matter much to them, they live in our places of worship like

Alwars and Nayanmars.

Awards are politicians creative and may even do away with awards to GHORE &

GHAZINI posthumously and on the other hand blackout some thing from the annals

of history of a country. Politicians are modern AbhiramiBatter could capable of

changing history into non history; it is beyond the scope of Vedic Astrology to

reason for their actions.

With regards,

D.SathiyanarayanaGupta.amolmandar <amolmandar > wrote:

Dear D.SathiyanarayanaGupta ji NamsteHow about those who get Bharat Ratna award

posthumously >30 years after death? Can we now tell when Mahatma

Gandhiji/Ravindranath Thakur will get Bharat Ratna Award looking at their

chart?Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.Prabodh Vekhande--- In

vedic astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816> wrote:>

> Dear shri.Tatvam-Asi.> > > > After the demise of a person , His horoscope

becomes obsolete and redundant.In case of an Hindu undivided family as the

saying goes " jestta bratha prethuru sama" we may look into the eldest's

horoscope.> > With regards,> > > > > nameisego <nameisego> wrote:> Dear

Friends,> > During Dhyana

yesterday night, self was confronted with this doubt > that,> "Can a dead

person's Horoscope indicate future events of his > children's life?"> >

Undersigned will surely investigate during the course of the day (As > it is

6.05 am ) and post his findings. But the ball is in your court > for those of

you who are in western hemisphere to dwell on this issue.> > Tatvam-Asi> > > >

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August 30, 2004

Dear Ramadas Rao,

I tend to agree with you.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Ramadas Rao wrote:

`

nmae naray[ay,

om namo

näräyaëäya|

Namaste Tattwam - Asi,

When a person is alive and from his chart

everything about his children can be told, even the person is died, the

futures of his children are indicated in his Horoscope.The reason

behind this here many clients are coming to me and asking many

questions in life and when I was telling some events happened in their

Fathers'life by looking into their charts,they agreed with me by many

events.But during such periods,I found their Father was not alive.So If

a dead Father's chart can be delineated from a living son/daughter's

chart, why not from a dead father's chart reveal about the future of

his son/ s ? Ofcourse some research has to be done on this.

These are my opinions and other may differ but

still can be tried.

With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

nameisego <nameisego > wrote:

Dear Friends,

During Dhyana yesterday night, self was confronted with this doubt

that,

"Can a dead person's Horoscope indicate future events of his

children's life?"

Undersigned will surely investigate during the course of the day (As

it is 6.05 am ) and post his findings. But the ball is in your court

for those of you who are in western hemisphere to dwell on this issue.

Tatvam-Asi

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August 30, 2004

Dear Kasthuri Rangan,

It would really be interesting to analyze such charts. I would say that

affliction to 12th house and Dasha of 12th lord and his transits could

be responsible for the coma. It would be interesting to test this

theory.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

R. Kasthuri Rangan wrote:

Dear Narasimha and list

Namaste. Has anyone done research with charts of people who have long

gone into coma? I think such cases are akin to being brain dead! Is

their mind dead as well? What combinations bring about a coma? Coma

doesn't always result in death. A few I believe have kicked back

to"life".

Are there any charts available?

Best wishes

R. Kasthuri Rangan

August 30, 2004

Dear Sathiyanarayana ji,

I oppose to the comparison of politicians with Abhirami Bhattar :-)

Eventhough changing history is analogous with Abhirami Bhattar's

Andaadi that made mother Parvati to bring full-moon on a non-pournima

day, polished criminals such as modern-day politicians should not be

compared with saints like Abhirami Bhattar.

Kind regards,

Jayashree

vedic astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta

<gupta816> wrote:

>

> Dear shri.Prabodh Vekhande,

>

> For He who has attained mokhsha and reached the abode of God, the

non celestial awards, would not matter much to them, they live in our

places of worship like Alwars and Nayanmars.

>

> Awards are politicians creative and may even do away with awards to

GHORE & GHAZINI posthumously and on the other hand blackout some

thing from the annals of history of a country. Politicians are modern

AbhiramiBatter could capable of changing history into non history; it

is beyond the scope of Vedic Astrology to reason for their actions.

>

> With regards,

>

> D.SathiyanarayanaGupta.

>

> amolmandar <amolmandar> wrote:Dear D.SathiyanarayanaGupta ji

Namste

>

> How about those who get Bharat Ratna award posthumously >30 years

> after death? Can we now tell when Mahatma Gandhiji/Ravindranath

> Thakur will get Bharat Ratna Award looking at their chart?

>

> Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

>

> Prabodh Vekhande

>

> vedic astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta

> <gupta816> wrote:

> >

> > Dear shri.Tatvam-Asi.

> >

> > After the demise of a person , His horoscope becomes obsolete and

> redundant.In case of an Hindu undivided family as the saying

goes "

> jestta bratha prethuru sama" we may look into the eldest's

horoscope.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > >

> >

> > nameisego <nameisego> wrote:

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > During Dhyana yesterday night, self was confronted with this

> doubt

> > that,

> > "Can a dead person's Horoscope indicate future events of his

> > children's life?"

> >

> > Undersigned will surely investigate during the course of the day

> (As

> > it is 6.05 am ) and post his findings. But the ball is in your

> court

> > for those of you who are in western hemisphere to dwell on this

> issue.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

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August 30, 2004

AUM GURUBYO NAMAH

Dear Gupta and Jayashree,

Namaste. Jayashree you had talked about Subrahmanyam in another mail. This is

indeed the name of His Holiness Abhirami Battar. Thirukadaiyur is the place

where this incident viz. change of thithi occured to humble the King

Sarabhoji(one may say that the king bears resmblance to the present day

politicians). Thirukadiyur is also known for the other important event which

enabled Markandeya to remain sixteen ever. In short Thirukadaiyur is known for

these two events viz. change of fate (vidhi) and change of lunar day(thithi).

For those persons who firmly believe that the prayers are never heard by the

almighty His Holiness Abhirami Bhattar proved them wrong.

His immortal prayer "Abhirami Andaathi" was an instantaneous outpour of the

deepest devotion to Mother. What is Andhathi? It only means immortality. The

end we call is no end and the ending point is actaually the beginning point.

The whole poem has been spun in this fashion.

The word Abhirami points out to the 8th house of kaalapurusha(katapayadi varga)

where the mind/moon is vanquished. 8th house also speaks about adhrishta(not

visible - unknown). Mother remains unknown for those who are ignorant. The

exalted words of devotion(Vrishabha) brought her out from the depths of

Scorpio(Moon is debilitated) to Vrishabha(Moon is exalted). For those devoted

souls who have conquered their mind can any politician/king spell death?! The

king Sarabhoji had decided to burn him alive if his word turned out to be

false. The King had asked Abhirami Bhattar when he was in trance about the

thithi then prevailing as a test to find out whether he was sane or insane. The

thithi as per panchanga was Amavasya but Abhirami Bhattar who was in deepest

trance blissfully enjoying the vision of Mother(poorna chandrika) replied that

the thithi as Pournima. The king declared that if Abhirami Bhattar could not

prove that the thithi prevailing on the day

was not pournima he would be burnt alive. Mother came out from the deepest

depths of silence(scorpio) and threw her ear ring into the sky which shined as

poorna chandrika moving the entire crowd who had gathered at Thirukadaiyur to

watch the scene.

This only goes to prove that those who are steadfast in their devotion and who

can go beyond the realms of japa(mind) can raise up to the level of

shodasi(poorna chandra).

The word Bhagawathi represent Vrishabha which is the 2nd house of kaalapurusha

where we find Moon exalted. This means that the all compassionate Mother is

ever listening to the prayers of her children and that she works as a

sustaining factor(2nd house). For those whose mind is exalted or clear, vak

siddhi is possible as the mind is able to reflect "sat" within. For those whose

minds are illumined their vak is also illumined.(Mahakavi Bharathi)

As regards reading out the awards given posthumously one can take the GL as the

lagna in dasamsa and work out the longevity of recognition.

His Abhirami Bhattar had no intention of proving anything to the world. It was

only the politician/king who wanted proof of Bhakthi.

Best wishes.

Astrologically yours,

p.s.ramanarayanan.

Jayashree <Jayashree_Ravi (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Sathiyanarayana ji,I oppose to the comparison of politicians with Abhirami

Bhattar :-) Eventhough changing history is analogous with Abhirami Bhattar's

Andaadi that made mother Parvati to bring full-moon on a non-pournima day,

polished criminals such as modern-day politicians should not be compared with

saints like Abhirami Bhattar. Kind regards,Jayashree--- In

vedic astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816> wrote:>

> Dear shri.Prabodh Vekhande,> > For He who has attained mokhsha and reached

the abode of God, the non celestial awards, would not matter much to them, they

live in our places of worship like Alwars and Nayanmars. > > Awards are

politicians creative and may even do away with awards to GHORE & GHAZINI

posthumously and on the other

hand blackout some thing from the annals of history of a country. Politicians

are modern AbhiramiBatter could capable of changing history into non history;

it is beyond the scope of Vedic Astrology to reason for their actions.> > With

regards,> > D.SathiyanarayanaGupta.> > > amolmandar <amolmandar>

wrote:Dear D.SathiyanarayanaGupta ji Namste> > How about those who get Bharat

Ratna award posthumously >30 years > after death? Can we now tell when Mahatma

Gandhiji/Ravindranath > Thakur will get Bharat Ratna Award looking at their

chart?> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.> > Prabodh Vekhande> > > --- In

vedic astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta > <gupta816> wrote:>

> > > Dear shri.Tatvam-Asi.> > > > > > > > After the demise of

a person , His horoscope becomes obsolete and > redundant.In case of an Hindu

undivided family as the saying goes " > jestta bratha prethuru sama" we may

look into the eldest's horoscope.> > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > >

nameisego <nameisego> wrote:> > Dear Friends,> > > > During Dhyana

yesterday night, self was confronted with this > doubt > > that,> > "Can a

dead person's Horoscope indicate future events of his > > children's life?"> >

> > Undersigned will surely investigate during the course of the day > (As > >

it is 6.05 am ) and post his findings. But the ball is in your > court > > for

those of you who are in western hemisphere to dwell on this > issue.> > > >

Tatvam-Asi> > > > > > >

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August 30, 2004

` nmae naray[ay,

om namo näräyaëäya|

Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,

Thanks for your mail in supporting my opinion.

With Shri Hari Vaayu naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Ramadas Rao,I tend to agree with

you.Regards,Chandrashekhar.Ramadas Rao wrote: