Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Venkatesh, Namaste. > Dear Sir, > From your article Kendradhipati dosa "may happen > only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, because the rest > of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from each other. > Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is only the lord > of two kendras". > I can't support your ideas.According to many > astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are natural > benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa if it is lord of a > quadrant". I wander where this statement originates from. Of course Moon is lord only of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, as well as for Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the meaning and effect of this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects becmes constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot fructify because of no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be considered a half/baked Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a kendra herself. So understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply them with intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of meanings and influences come out. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone: +36-309-140-839 > Kindly confirm these and send me the answers as > early as possible. > > Thanks, > S.Venkatesh. > > _______________ > The all new MSN Messenger! Chat with any e-mail ID! > http://server1.msn.co.in/sp04/messenger/ Change the way you communicate! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Dear Gauranga, Could I draw attention to following shlokas? keNÔaixpTydae;Stu blvan! guézu³yae>, kendrädhipatyadoñastu balavän guruçukrayoù | markTve=ip c tyaemaRrkSwans<iSwit>.10. märakatve'pi ca tayormärakasthänasaàsthitiù ||10|| Amongst planets with ownership of angle (Kendra) Jupiter and Venus are strong evil planets in ascending order. If they also own or occupy Maraka sthana they become powerful Marakas. buxStdnu cNÔae=ip Évet! tdnu tiÖx>, budhastadanu candro'pi bhavet tadanu tadvidhaù | n rNØezTvdae;Stu sUyaRcNÔmsaeÉRvet!.11. na randhreçatvadoñastu süryäcandramasorbhavet ||11|| Similarly Mercury on a lesser scale than the previous two and Moon is lesser Maraka than Mercury. Sun and Moon are not blemished on account of their owning 8th house. However they remain Marakas in other Maraka position. This indicates Venus is the most afflicted with Kendraadhipati dosha and not a half baked malefic as suggested. Your views would be appreciated much. Regards, Gauranga Das wrote: JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Venkatesh, Namaste. Dear Sir, >From your article Kendradhipati dosa "may happen only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, because the rest of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from each other. Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is only the lord of two kendras". I can't support your ideas.According to many astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are natural benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa if it is lord of a quadrant". I wander where this statement originates from. Of course Moon is lord only of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, as well as for Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the meaning and effect of this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects becmes constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot fructify because of no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be considered a half/baked Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a kendra herself. So understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply them with intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of meanings and influences come out. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone: +36-309-140-839 Kindly confirm these and send me the answers as early as possible. Thanks, S.Venkatesh. _______________ The all new MSN Messenger! Chat with any e-mail ID! http://server1.msn.co.in/sp04/messenger/ Change the way you communicate! ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from . Register anything. http://us.click./J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/.8XolB/TM --~-> <*> vedic astrology/ <*> vedic astrology <*> Your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Dear Guranga Ji and Chandrashekhar ji Kindly evaluate & correct my understanding. I have read from Laghu Parashari(I think) that Kendra dosha is due to lack of simultaneous owning of kendra as well as trikona.When a strong benefic like Venus or Jupiter is owning only kendras,then it cannot give full results.For becoming a yoga karaka it has to own both.For the same reason when a strong benefic is owning Lagna and another Kendra,the dosha(inability to do good) vanishes as lagna is one among the 'tri' konas.So the dosha can remain even if it is owning just one kendra. Similarly in the case of strong malefics,owning a kendra makes them neutral though unable of doing good. As Mercury & Moon attains malefic/benefic nature based on paksha bala and association,kendra dosha too has to be ascertained accordingly. Respect Pradeep vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Gauranga, > Could I draw attention to following shlokas? > keNÔaixpTydae;Stu blvan! guézu^(3)yae>, > kendrädhipatyadon~astu balavän guruçukrayou` | > markTve=ip c tyaemaRrkSwans<iSwit>.10. > märakatve'pi ca tayormärakasthänasaa`sthitiu` ||10|| > > Amongst planets with ownership of angle (Kendra) Jupiter and Venus are > strong evil planets in ascending order. If they also own or occupy > Maraka sthana they become powerful Marakas. > buxStdnu cNÔae=ip Évet! tdnu tiÖx>, > budhastadanu candro'pi bhavet tadanu tadvidhau` | > n rN?ezTvdae;Stu sUyaRcNÔmsaeÉRvet!.11. > na randhreçatvadon~astu süryäcandramasorbhavet ||11|| > > Similarly Mercury on a lesser scale than the previous two and Moon is > lesser Maraka than Mercury. Sun and Moon are not blemished on account > of their owning 8th house. However they remain Marakas in other Maraka > position. > > This indicates Venus is the most afflicted with Kendraadhipati dosha and > not a half baked malefic as suggested. Your views would be appreciated much. > Regards, > > > Gauranga Das wrote: > > >JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > >Dear Venkatesh, > > > >Namaste. > > > > > > > >>Dear Sir, > >> From your article Kendradhipati dosa "may happen > >>only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, because the rest > >>of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from each other. > >>Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is only the > >> > >> > >lord > > > > > >>of two kendras". > >> I can't support your ideas.According to many > >>astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are natural > >>benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa if it is lord of > >> > >> > >a > > > > > >>quadrant". > >> > >> > > > >I wander where this statement originates from. Of course Moon is lord only > >of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, as well as for > >Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the meaning and effect of > >this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects becmes > >constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot fructify because of > >no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be considered a half/baked > >Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a kendra herself. So > >understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply them with > >intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of meanings and > >influences come out. > > > >Yours, > > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > gauranga@b... > > Jyotish Remedies: > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > Phone: +36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > >> Kindly confirm these and send me the answers as > >>early as possible. > >> > >>Thanks, > >>S.Venkatesh. > >> > >>_______________ > >>The all new MSN Messenger! Chat with any e-mail ID! > >>http://server1.msn.co.in/sp04/messenger/ Change the way you communicate! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Dear Pradeep, When a benefic owns two kendras, this happens only when the Lagna is owned by Jupiter or Mercury. In that instance one becomes strong Marakesh and badhakesh and other , though owning Lagna, gets kendradhipati dosha attached to it. At least this is how I would interpret the shloka. Had that not been the case the sage would have mentioned Lagnesh not getting Kendradhipati dosha by being a benefic.Others may hold different views. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Guranga Ji and Chandrashekhar ji Kindly evaluate & correct my understanding. I have read from Laghu Parashari(I think) that Kendra dosha is due to lack of simultaneous owning of kendra as well as trikona.When a strong benefic like Venus or Jupiter is owning only kendras,then it cannot give full results.For becoming a yoga karaka it has to own both.For the same reason when a strong benefic is owning Lagna and another Kendra,the dosha(inability to do good) vanishes as lagna is one among the 'tri' konas.So the dosha can remain even if it is owning just one kendra. Similarly in the case of strong malefics,owning a kendra makes them neutral though unable of doing good. As Mercury & Moon attains malefic/benefic nature based on paksha bala and association,kendra dosha too has to be ascertained accordingly. Respect Pradeep vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Gauranga, > Could I draw attention to following shlokas? > keNÔaixpTydae;Stu blvan! guézu^(3)yae>, > kendrädhipatyadon~astu balavän guruçukrayou` | > markTve=ip c tyaemaRrkSwans<iSwit>.10. > märakatve'pi ca tayormärakasthänasaa`sthitiu` ||10|| > > Amongst planets with ownership of angle (Kendra) Jupiter and Venus are > strong evil planets in ascending order. If they also own or occupy > Maraka sthana they become powerful Marakas. > buxStdnu cNÔae=ip Évet! tdnu tiÖx>, > budhastadanu candro'pi bhavet tadanu tadvidhau` | > n rN?ezTvdae;Stu sUyaRcNÔmsaeÉRvet!.11. > na randhreçatvadon~astu süryäcandramasorbhavet ||11|| > > Similarly Mercury on a lesser scale than the previous two and Moon is > lesser Maraka than Mercury. Sun and Moon are not blemished on account > of their owning 8th house. However they remain Marakas in other Maraka > position. > > This indicates Venus is the most afflicted with Kendraadhipati dosha and > not a half baked malefic as suggested. Your views would be appreciated much. > Regards, > > > Gauranga Das wrote: > > >JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > >Dear Venkatesh, > > > >Namaste. > > > > > > > >>Dear Sir, > >> From your article Kendradhipati dosa "may happen > >>only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, because the rest > >>of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from each other. > >>Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is only the > >> > >> > >lord > > > > > >>of two kendras". > >> I can't support your ideas.According to many > >>astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are natural > >>benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa if it is lord of > >> > >> > >a > > > > > >>quadrant". > >> > >> > > > >I wander where this statement originates from. Of course Moon is lord only > >of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, as well as for > >Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the meaning and effect of > >this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects becmes > >constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot fructify because of > >no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be considered a half/baked > >Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a kendra herself. So > >understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply them with > >intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of meanings and > >influences come out. > > > >Yours, > > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > gauranga@b... > > Jyotish Remedies: > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > Phone: +36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > >> Kindly confirm these and send me the answers as > >>early as possible. > >> > >>Thanks, > >>S.Venkatesh. > >> > >>_______________ > >>The all new MSN Messenger! Chat with any e-mail ID! > >>http://server1.msn.co.in/sp04/messenger/ Change the way you communicate! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > >....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Dear Chandrashekhar ji Thanks for the clarification.Venus & Jupiter being two strong natural benefics,when unable to deliver fortunate results, the jataka will definitely face difficulties.Thus may be termed as dosha.But why? was the question i was trying to understand. When lakshmi and Vishnu are unable to join, the results too may not fructify,was my interpretation with the help of texts.For the same reason if a planet unable to give benefic results happens to own maraka places or be placed there,then definitely results will be bad. But if he is related to a trikona then he may be able to deliver good (even if not in full).Now if he owns strongest quadrant like 10th and a maraka like 7th,eg.jupiter in the case of gemini lagna,then the jataka is faced with difficulties of strong order,more so if he is in 7th or 2nd.Another case being mercury for Dhanu lagna. Now Lagnesh should give good results and auspiscious(depending on his association and other strenghts).Now Lagna is a kendra as well and if he becomes inefficient just by virtue of kendra ownership,how will he deliver lagnesh results?.This is my doubt.I understand this dosha as an inability of a planet to deliver good - is it correct? Respect Pradeep vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Pradeep, > When a benefic owns two kendras, this happens only when the Lagna is > owned by Jupiter or Mercury. In that instance one becomes strong > Marakesh and badhakesh and other , though owning Lagna, gets > kendradhipati dosha attached to it. At least this is how I would > interpret the shloka. Had that not been the case the sage would have > mentioned Lagnesh not getting Kendradhipati dosha by being a > benefic.Others may hold different views. > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > Dear Guranga Ji and Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Kindly evaluate & correct my understanding. > > I have read from Laghu Parashari(I think) that Kendra dosha is due to > > lack of simultaneous owning of kendra as well as trikona.When a > > strong benefic like Venus or Jupiter is owning only kendras,then it > > cannot give full results.For becoming a yoga karaka it has to own > > both.For the same reason when a strong benefic is owning Lagna and > > another Kendra,the dosha(inability to do good) vanishes as lagna is > > one among the 'tri' konas.So the dosha can remain even if it is > > owning just one kendra. > > > > Similarly in the case of strong malefics,owning a kendra makes them > > neutral though unable of doing good. > > > > As Mercury & Moon attains malefic/benefic nature based on paksha bala > > and association,kendra dosha too has to be ascertained accordingly. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > <boxdel> wrote: > > > Dear Gauranga, > > > Could I draw attention to following shlokas? > > > keNÔaixpTydae;Stu blvan! guézu^(3)yae>, > > > kendrädhipatyadon~astu balavän guruçukrayou` | > > > markTve=ip c tyaemaRrkSwans<iSwit>.10. > > > märakatve'pi ca tayormärakasthänasaa`sthitiu` ||10|| > > > > > > Amongst planets with ownership of angle (Kendra) Jupiter and Venus > > are > > > strong evil planets in ascending order. If they also own or occupy > > > Maraka sthana they become powerful Marakas. > > > buxStdnu cNÔae=ip Évet! tdnu tiÖx>, > > > budhastadanu candro'pi bhavet tadanu tadvidhau` | > > > n rN?ezTvdae;Stu sUyaRcNÔmsaeÉRvet!.11. > > > na randhreçatvadon~astu süryäcandramasorbhavet ||11|| > > > > > > Similarly Mercury on a lesser scale than the previous two and Moon > > is > > > lesser Maraka than Mercury. Sun and Moon are not blemished on > > account > > > of their owning 8th house. However they remain Marakas in other > > Maraka > > > position. > > > > > > This indicates Venus is the most afflicted with Kendraadhipati > > dosha and > > > not a half baked malefic as suggested. Your views would be > > appreciated much. > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Gauranga Das wrote: > > > > > > >JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > > > > >Dear Venkatesh, > > > > > > > >Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Sir, > > > >> From your article Kendradhipati > > dosa "may happen > > > >>only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, because > > the rest > > > >>of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from > > each other. > > > >>Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is > > only the > > > >> > > > >> > > > >lord > > > > > > > > > > > >>of two kendras". > > > >> I can't support your ideas.According to > > many > > > >>astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are natural > > > >>benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa if it > > is lord of > > > >> > > > >> > > > >a > > > > > > > > > > > >>quadrant". > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >I wander where this statement originates from. Of course Moon is > > lord only > > > >of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, as > > well as for > > > >Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the meaning and > > effect of > > > >this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects > > becmes > > > >constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot fructify > > because of > > > >no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be considered a > > half/baked > > > >Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a kendra > > herself. So > > > >understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply them > > with > > > >intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of meanings and > > > >influences come out. > > > > > > > >Yours, > > > > > > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > > > gauranga@b... > > > > Jyotish Remedies: > > > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > > Phone: +36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kindly confirm these and send me the > > answers as > > > >>early as possible. > > > >> > > > >>Thanks, > > > >>S.Venkatesh. > > > >> > > > >>_______________ > > > >>The all new MSN Messenger! Chat with any e-mail ID! > > > >>http://server1.msn.co.in/sp04/messenger/ Change the way you > > communicate! > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > >....... 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Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Dear Pradeep, The reason for the sages to give Kendradhipati dosha to benefics is best known to them. However this may be their attempt to let us know that merely because a planet is owning a Kendra he may not necessarily be a benefic. If the planet also owns a trikona he becomes yogakaraka and does not attract Kendradhipati dosha. When it does not, you will note that he invariably owns a dusthana, unless other house owned is a Kendra too which happens to be so in case of Mercury and Jupiter. Parashara has explained in one of the shlokas that Mars is benefic for Karka Lagna not because it owns 10th house but because he owns the 5th house too. Chandrashekhar. vijayadas_pradeep wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar ji Thanks for the clarification.Venus & Jupiter being two strong natural benefics,when unable to deliver fortunate results, the jataka will definitely face difficulties.Thus may be termed as dosha.But why? was the question i was trying to understand. When lakshmi and Vishnu are unable to join, the results too may not fructify,was my interpretation with the help of texts.For the same reason if a planet unable to give benefic results happens to own maraka places or be placed there,then definitely results will be bad. But if he is related to a trikona then he may be able to deliver good (even if not in full).Now if he owns strongest quadrant like 10th and a maraka like 7th,eg.jupiter in the case of gemini lagna,then the jataka is faced with difficulties of strong order,more so if he is in 7th or 2nd.Another case being mercury for Dhanu lagna. Now Lagnesh should give good results and auspiscious(depending on his association and other strenghts).Now Lagna is a kendra as well and if he becomes inefficient just by virtue of kendra ownership,how will he deliver lagnesh results?.This is my doubt.I understand this dosha as an inability of a planet to deliver good - is it correct? Respect Pradeep vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Pradeep, > When a benefic owns two kendras, this happens only when the Lagna is > owned by Jupiter or Mercury. In that instance one becomes strong > Marakesh and badhakesh and other , though owning Lagna, gets > kendradhipati dosha attached to it. At least this is how I would > interpret the shloka. Had that not been the case the sage would have > mentioned Lagnesh not getting Kendradhipati dosha by being a > benefic.Others may hold different views. > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > Dear Guranga Ji and Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Kindly evaluate & correct my understanding. > > I have read from Laghu Parashari(I think) that Kendra dosha is due to > > lack of simultaneous owning of kendra as well as trikona.When a > > strong benefic like Venus or Jupiter is owning only kendras,then it > > cannot give full results.For becoming a yoga karaka it has to own > > both.For the same reason when a strong benefic is owning Lagna and > > another Kendra,the dosha(inability to do good) vanishes as lagna is > > one among the 'tri' konas.So the dosha can remain even if it is > > owning just one kendra. > > > > Similarly in the case of strong malefics,owning a kendra makes them > > neutral though unable of doing good. > > > > As Mercury & Moon attains malefic/benefic nature based on paksha bala > > and association,kendra dosha too has to be ascertained accordingly. > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > <boxdel> wrote: > > > Dear Gauranga, > > > Could I draw attention to following shlokas? > > > keNÔaixpTydae;Stu blvan! guézu^(3)yae>, > > > kendrädhipatyadon~astu balavän guruçukrayou` | > > > markTve=ip c tyaemaRrkSwans<iSwit>.10. > > > märakatve'pi ca tayormärakasthänasaa`sthitiu` ||10|| > > > > > > Amongst planets with ownership of angle (Kendra) Jupiter and Venus > > are > > > strong evil planets in ascending order. If they also own or occupy > > > Maraka sthana they become powerful Marakas. > > > buxStdnu cNÔae=ip Évet! tdnu tiÖx>, > > > budhastadanu candro'pi bhavet tadanu tadvidhau` | > > > n rN?ezTvdae;Stu sUyaRcNÔmsaeÉRvet!.11. > > > na randhreçatvadon~astu süryäcandramasorbhavet ||11|| > > > > > > Similarly Mercury on a lesser scale than the previous two and Moon > > is > > > lesser Maraka than Mercury. Sun and Moon are not blemished on > > account > > > of their owning 8th house. However they remain Marakas in other > > Maraka > > > position. > > > > > > This indicates Venus is the most afflicted with Kendraadhipati > > dosha and > > > not a half baked malefic as suggested. Your views would be > > appreciated much. > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Gauranga Das wrote: > > > > > > >JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > > > > >Dear Venkatesh, > > > > > > > >Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Sir, > > > >> From your article Kendradhipati > > dosa "may happen > > > >>only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, because > > the rest > > > >>of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from > > each other. > > > >>Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is > > only the > > > >> > > > >> > > > >lord > > > > > > > > > > > >>of two kendras". > > > >> I can't support your ideas.According to > > many > > > >>astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are natural > > > >>benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa if it > > is lord of > > > >> > > > >> > > > >a > > > > > > > > > > > >>quadrant". > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >I wander where this statement originates from. Of course Moon is > > lord only > > > >of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, as > > well as for > > > >Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the meaning and > > effect of > > > >this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects > > becmes > > > >constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot fructify > > because of > > > >no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be considered a > > half/baked > > > >Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a kendra > > herself. So > > > >understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply them > > with > > > >intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of meanings and > > > >influences come out. > > > > > > > >Yours, > > > > > > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > > > gauranga@b... > > > > Jyotish Remedies: > > > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > > Phone: +36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kindly confirm these and send me the > > answers as > > > >>early as possible. > > > >> > > > >>Thanks, > > > >>S.Venkatesh. > > > >> > > > >>_______________ > > > >>The all new MSN Messenger! Chat with any e-mail ID! > > > >>http://server1.msn.co.in/sp04/messenger/ Change the way you > > communicate! > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > >....... 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Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Dear Chandrashekhar ji Thanks for the reply.The shloka reference from parashara regarding Mars for Karka lagna mentioned by you is helpful in understanding this better.I think here Mars loses its malefic nature by owning a kendra and further gains auspisciousness by virtue of trikona ownership. Respect Pradeep vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Pradeep, > The reason for the sages to give Kendradhipati dosha to benefics is best > known to them. However this may be their attempt to let us know that > merely because a planet is owning a Kendra he may not necessarily be a > benefic. If the planet also owns a trikona he becomes yogakaraka and > does not attract Kendradhipati dosha. When it does not, you will note > that he invariably owns a dusthana, unless other house owned is a Kendra > too which happens to be so in case of Mercury and Jupiter. Parashara has > explained in one of the shlokas that Mars is benefic for Karka Lagna not > because it owns 10th house but because he owns the 5th house too. > Chandrashekhar. > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Thanks for the clarification.Venus & Jupiter being two strong > > natural benefics,when unable to deliver fortunate results, the > > jataka will definitely face difficulties.Thus may be termed as > > dosha.But why? was the question i was trying to understand. > > When lakshmi and Vishnu are unable to join, the results too may not > > fructify,was my interpretation with the help of texts.For the same > > reason if a planet unable to give benefic results happens to own > > maraka places or be placed there,then definitely results will be bad. > > But if he is related to a trikona then he may be able to deliver good > > (even if not in full).Now if he owns strongest quadrant like 10th > > and a maraka like 7th,eg.jupiter in the case of gemini lagna,then > > the jataka is faced with difficulties of strong order,more so if he > > is in 7th or 2nd.Another case being mercury for Dhanu lagna. > > > > Now Lagnesh should give good results and auspiscious(depending on > > his association and other strenghts).Now Lagna is a kendra as well > > and if he becomes inefficient just by virtue of kendra ownership,how > > will he deliver lagnesh results?.This is my doubt.I understand this > > dosha as an inability of a planet to deliver good - is it correct? > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> > > wrote: > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > When a benefic owns two kendras, this happens only when the Lagna > > is > > > owned by Jupiter or Mercury. In that instance one becomes strong > > > Marakesh and badhakesh and other , though owning Lagna, gets > > > kendradhipati dosha attached to it. At least this is how I would > > > interpret the shloka. Had that not been the case the sage would > > have > > > mentioned Lagnesh not getting Kendradhipati dosha by being a > > > benefic.Others may hold different views. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Guranga Ji and Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > Kindly evaluate & correct my understanding. > > > > I have read from Laghu Parashari(I think) that Kendra dosha is > > due to > > > > lack of simultaneous owning of kendra as well as trikona.When a > > > > strong benefic like Venus or Jupiter is owning only kendras,then > > it > > > > cannot give full results.For becoming a yoga karaka it has to own > > > > both.For the same reason when a strong benefic is owning Lagna > > and > > > > another Kendra,the dosha(inability to do good) vanishes as lagna > > is > > > > one among the 'tri' konas.So the dosha can remain even if it is > > > > owning just one kendra. > > > > > > > > Similarly in the case of strong malefics,owning a kendra makes > > them > > > > neutral though unable of doing good. > > > > > > > > As Mercury & Moon attains malefic/benefic nature based on paksha > > bala > > > > and association,kendra dosha too has to be ascertained > > accordingly. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > > <boxdel> wrote: > > > > > Dear Gauranga, > > > > > Could I draw attention to following shlokas? > > > > > keNÔaixpTydae;Stu blvan! guézu^(3)yae>, > > > > > kendrädhipatyadon~astu balavän guruçukrayou` | > > > > > markTve=ip c tyaemaRrkSwans<iSwit>.10. > > > > > märakatve'pi ca tayormärakasthänasaa`sthitiu` ||10|| > > > > > > > > > > Amongst planets with ownership of angle (Kendra) Jupiter and > > Venus > > > > are > > > > > strong evil planets in ascending order. If they also own or > > occupy > > > > > Maraka sthana they become powerful Marakas. > > > > > buxStdnu cNÔae=ip Évet! tdnu tiÖx>, > > > > > budhastadanu candro'pi bhavet tadanu tadvidhau` | > > > > > n rN?ezTvdae;Stu sUyaRcNÔmsaeÉRvet!.11. > > > > > na randhreçatvadon~astu süryäcandramasorbhavet ||11|| > > > > > > > > > > Similarly Mercury on a lesser scale than the previous two and > > Moon > > > > is > > > > > lesser Maraka than Mercury. Sun and Moon are not blemished on > > > > account > > > > > of their owning 8th house. However they remain Marakas in other > > > > Maraka > > > > > position. > > > > > > > > > > This indicates Venus is the most afflicted with Kendraadhipati > > > > dosha and > > > > > not a half baked malefic as suggested. Your views would be > > > > appreciated much. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gauranga Das wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Venkatesh, > > > > > > > > > > > >Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Sir, > > > > > >> From your article Kendradhipati > > > > dosa "may happen > > > > > >>only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, > > because > > > > the rest > > > > > >>of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from > > > > each other. > > > > > >>Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is > > > > only the > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>of two kendras". > > > > > >> I can't support your ideas.According > > to > > > > many > > > > > >>astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are > > natural > > > > > >>benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa if > > it > > > > is lord of > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>quadrant". > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >I wander where this statement originates from. Of course Moon > > is > > > > lord only > > > > > >of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, > > as > > > > well as for > > > > > >Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the > > meaning and > > > > effect of > > > > > >this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects > > > > becmes > > > > > >constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot > > fructify > > > > because of > > > > > >no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be > > considered a > > > > half/baked > > > > > >Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a > > kendra > > > > herself. So > > > > > >understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply > > them > > > > with > > > > > >intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of > > meanings and > > > > > >influences come out. > > > > > > > > > > > >Yours, > > > > > > > > > > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > > > > > gauranga@b... > > > > > > Jyotish Remedies: > > > > > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > > > > Phone: +36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kindly confirm these and send me > > the > > > > answers as > > > > > >>early as possible. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Thanks, > > > > > >>S.Venkatesh. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>_______________ > > > > > >>The all new MSN Messenger! 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Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Namaste Pradeepji, I think it has already been said that the extent of kendradhipathi dosha is proportionate to the strength of the benefic planets. Some deem that when a mahapurusha yoga occurs in one of the kendras, the dosha is nullified. Some others opine that while the effect of mahapurusha yoga operates throughout life, the dosha would operate only during the dasa/antardasa of the benefic. Sri B V Raman's "catechism on astrology" contains some interesting queries on this topic. But, I reckon, even for a super strong Jupiter/Venus/Mercury/Moon, some dosha would still be there, but then how much does the dark spot detract from the glory of the full moon? Regards, Lakshmi vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep > wrote: Dear Chandrashekhar jiThanks for the clarification.Venus & Jupiter being two strong natural benefics,when unable to deliver fortunate results, the jataka will definitely face difficulties.Thus may be termed as dosha.But why? was the question i was trying to understand.When lakshmi and Vishnu are unable to join, the results too may not fructify,was my interpretation with the help of texts.For the same reason if a planet unable to give benefic results happens to own maraka places or be placed there,then definitely results will be bad.But if he is related to a trikona then he may be able to deliver good(even if not in full).Now if he owns strongest quadrant like 10th and a maraka like 7th,eg.jupiter in the case of gemini lagna,then the jataka is faced with difficulties of strong order,more so if he is in 7th or 2nd.Another case being mercury for Dhanu lagna. Now Lagnesh should give good results and auspiscious(depending on his association and other strenghts).Now Lagna is a kendra as well and if he becomes inefficient just by virtue of kendra ownership,how will he deliver lagnesh results?.This is my doubt.I understand this dosha as an inability of a planet to deliver good - is it correct?RespectPradeepvedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Pradeep,> When a benefic owns two kendras, this happens only when the Lagna is > owned by Jupiter or Mercury. In that instance one becomes strong > Marakesh and badhakesh and other , though owning Lagna, gets > kendradhipati dosha attached to it. At least this is how I would > interpret the shloka. Had that not been the case the sage would have > mentioned Lagnesh not getting Kendradhipati dosha by being a > benefic.Others may hold different views.> Chandrashekhar.> > vijayadas_pradeep wrote:> > > Dear Guranga Ji and Chandrashekhar ji> >> > Kindly evaluate & correct my understanding.> > I have read from Laghu Parashari(I think) that Kendra dosha is due to> > lack of simultaneous owning of kendra as well as trikona.When a> > strong benefic like Venus or Jupiter is owning only kendras,then it> > cannot give full results.For becoming a yoga karaka it has to own> > both.For the same reason when a strong benefic is owning Lagna and> > another Kendra,the dosha(inability to do good) vanishes as lagna is> > one among the 'tri' konas.So the dosha can remain even if it is> > owning just one kendra.> >> > Similarly in the case of strong malefics,owning a kendra makes them> > neutral though unable of doing good.> >> > As Mercury & Moon attains malefic/benefic nature based on paksha bala> > and association,kendra dosha too has to be ascertained accordingly.> >> > Respect> > Pradeep> >> > --- In vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar> > <boxdel> wrote:> > > Dear Gauranga,> > > Could I draw attention to following shlokas?> > > keNÔaixpTydae;Stu blvan! guézu^(3)yae>,> > > kendrädhipatyadon~astu balavän guruçukrayou` |> > > markTve=ip c tyaemaRrkSwans<iSwit>.10.> > > märakatve'pi ca tayormärakasthänasaa`sthitiu` ||10||> > >> > > Amongst planets with ownership of angle (Kendra) Jupiter and Venus> > are> > > strong evil planets in ascending order. If they also own or occupy> > > Maraka sthana they become powerful Marakas.> > > buxStdnu cNÔae=ip Évet! tdnu tiÖx>,> > > budhastadanu candro'pi bhavet tadanu tadvidhau` |> > > n rN?ezTvdae;Stu sUyaRcNÔmsaeÉRvet!.11.> > > na randhreçatvadon~astu süryäcandramasorbhavet ||11||> > >> > > Similarly Mercury on a lesser scale than the previous two and Moon> > is> > > lesser Maraka than Mercury. Sun and Moon are not blemished on> > account> > > of their owning 8th house. However they remain Marakas in other> > Maraka> > > position.> > >> > > This indicates Venus is the most afflicted with Kendraadhipati> > dosha and> > > not a half baked malefic as suggested. Your views would be> > appreciated much.> > > Regards,> > >> > >> > > Gauranga Das wrote:> > >> > > >JAYA JAGANNATHA!> > > >> > > >Dear Venkatesh,> > > >> > > >Namaste.> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >>Dear Sir,> > > >> From your article Kendradhipati> > dosa "may happen> > > >>only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, because> > the rest> > > >>of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from> > each other.> > > >>Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is> > only the> > > >> > > > >>> > > >lord> > > > > > > >> > > >>of two kendras".> > > >> I can't support your ideas.According to> > many> > > >>astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are natural> > > >>benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa if it> > is lord of> > > >> > > > >>> > > >a> > > > > > > >> > > >>quadrant".> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > >I wander where this statement originates from. Of course Moon is> > lord only> > > >of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, as> > well as for> > > >Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the meaning and> > effect of> > > >this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects> > becmes> > > >constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot fructify> > because of> > > >no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be considered a> > half/baked> > > >Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a kendra> > herself. So> > > >understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply them> > with> > > >intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of meanings and> > > >influences come out.> > > >> > > >Yours,> > > >> > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer> > > > gauranga@b...> > > > Jyotish Remedies:> > > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET> > > > Phone: +36-309-140-839> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> Kindly confirm these and send me the> > answers as> > > >>early as possible.> > > >>> > > >>Thanks,> > > >>S.Venkatesh.> > > >>> > > >>_______________> > > >>The all new MSN Messenger! Chat with any e-mail ID!> > > >>http://server1.msn.co.in/sp04/messenger/ Change the way you> > communicate!> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >Archives: vedic astrology> > > >> > > >Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > > >> > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > >> > > >....... 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Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Dear Members, Kendradhipati Dosha has been dealt with by Gayatri Devi Vasudev in her text. Though she has linked it with the lord of 22nd Drekkana, Pt. Rath has clarified that Kharesha, lord of 22nd Drekkana is a different mystic entity from Badhak. For mutable Lagnas, the 7th Lord is at once Badhak, Kendradhipati and Marak. If there are linkages with 22nd Drekkana, the Graha becomes even more malefic. Accd. to Ms. Vasudev's text, Kendradhipati Dosha is a selective affliction and usually involves personal factors like spouse and progeny, depending upon placement. Intangible factors appear to be less harmed. Placement in Trikona and Upachaya takes away a lot from the virulence of the Kendradhipati. She also mentions that the more unafflicted the Kendradhipati is, the freer it is to cause havoc. As usual confluence of factors like Karaka and Navamsha factors along with the concerned Varga Kundali must be seen to judge the effects. The Dosha is least for Chandra and maximum for Shukra. Shukra appears to be just ahead of Guru as far as propensity for malefic results goes. Ms. Vasudev is also of the opinion that natural Karakattwas of the Graha suffer with this Dosha as well. Like marital troubles for Karka Lagna due to 4th Lordship of Shukra. For Dwisvabhava Lagnas the Dosha shall be maximum. Charts are cited in Ms. Vasudev's text where Mahapurusha Yoga has not been able to help at all. I cannot remember exactly but I think for Kanya Lagna Guru in the 7th caused great havoc with no protection where Shukra and other factors pertaining to spouse and marital life were without potency. These are some thoughts on the matter at hand. Best wishes, Anurag. vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Pradeepji, > > I think it has already been said that the extent of kendradhipathi dosha is proportionate to the strength of the benefic planets. Some deem that when a mahapurusha yoga occurs in one of the kendras, the dosha is nullified. Some others opine that while the effect of mahapurusha yoga operates throughout life, the dosha would operate only during the dasa/antardasa of the benefic. Sri B V Raman's "catechism on astrology" contains some interesting queries on this topic. > > But, I reckon, even for a super strong Jupiter/Venus/Mercury/Moon, some dosha would still be there, but then how much does the dark spot detract from the glory of the full moon? > > Regards, > Lakshmi vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > Thanks for the clarification.Venus & Jupiter being two strong > natural benefics,when unable to deliver fortunate results, the > jataka will definitely face difficulties.Thus may be termed as > dosha.But why? was the question i was trying to understand. > When lakshmi and Vishnu are unable to join, the results too may not > fructify,was my interpretation with the help of texts.For the same > reason if a planet unable to give benefic results happens to own > maraka places or be placed there,then definitely results will be bad. > But if he is related to a trikona then he may be able to deliver good > (even if not in full).Now if he owns strongest quadrant like 10th > and a maraka like 7th,eg.jupiter in the case of gemini lagna,then > the jataka is faced with difficulties of strong order,more so if he > is in 7th or 2nd.Another case being mercury for Dhanu lagna. > > Now Lagnesh should give good results and auspiscious(depending on > his association and other strenghts).Now Lagna is a kendra as well > and if he becomes inefficient just by virtue of kendra ownership,how > will he deliver lagnesh results?.This is my doubt.I understand this > dosha as an inability of a planet to deliver good - is it correct? > > Respect > Pradeep > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> > wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > When a benefic owns two kendras, this happens only when the Lagna > is > > owned by Jupiter or Mercury. In that instance one becomes strong > > Marakesh and badhakesh and other , though owning Lagna, gets > > kendradhipati dosha attached to it. At least this is how I would > > interpret the shloka. Had that not been the case the sage would > have > > mentioned Lagnesh not getting Kendradhipati dosha by being a > > benefic.Others may hold different views. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > Dear Guranga Ji and Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > Kindly evaluate & correct my understanding. > > > I have read from Laghu Parashari(I think) that Kendra dosha is > due to > > > lack of simultaneous owning of kendra as well as trikona.When a > > > strong benefic like Venus or Jupiter is owning only kendras,then > it > > > cannot give full results.For becoming a yoga karaka it has to own > > > both.For the same reason when a strong benefic is owning Lagna > and > > > another Kendra,the dosha(inability to do good) vanishes as lagna > is > > > one among the 'tri' konas.So the dosha can remain even if it is > > > owning just one kendra. > > > > > > Similarly in the case of strong malefics,owning a kendra makes > them > > > neutral though unable of doing good. > > > > > > As Mercury & Moon attains malefic/benefic nature based on paksha > bala > > > and association,kendra dosha too has to be ascertained > accordingly. > > > > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > <boxdel> wrote: > > > > Dear Gauranga, > > > > Could I draw attention to following shlokas? > > > > keNÔaixpTydae;Stu blvan! guézu^(3)yae>, > > > > kendrädhipatyadon~astu balavän guruçukrayou` | > > > > markTve=ip c tyaemaRrkSwans<iSwit>.10. > > > > märakatve'pi ca tayormärakasthänasaa`sthitiu` ||10|| > > > > > > > > Amongst planets with ownership of angle (Kendra) Jupiter and > Venus > > > are > > > > strong evil planets in ascending order. If they also own or > occupy > > > > Maraka sthana they become powerful Marakas. > > > > buxStdnu cNÔae=ip Évet! tdnu tiÖx>, > > > > budhastadanu candro'pi bhavet tadanu tadvidhau` | > > > > n rN?ezTvdae;Stu sUyaRcNÔmsaeÉRvet!.11. > > > > na randhreçatvadon~astu süryäcandramasorbhavet ||11|| > > > > > > > > Similarly Mercury on a lesser scale than the previous two and > Moon > > > is > > > > lesser Maraka than Mercury. Sun and Moon are not blemished on > > > account > > > > of their owning 8th house. However they remain Marakas in other > > > Maraka > > > > position. > > > > > > > > This indicates Venus is the most afflicted with Kendraadhipati > > > dosha and > > > > not a half baked malefic as suggested. Your views would be > > > appreciated much. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Gauranga Das wrote: > > > > > > > > >JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > > > > > > >Dear Venkatesh, > > > > > > > > > >Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Sir, > > > > >> From your article Kendradhipati > > > dosa "may happen > > > > >>only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, > because > > > the rest > > > > >>of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from > > > each other. > > > > >>Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is > > > only the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>of two kendras". > > > > >> I can't support your ideas.According > to > > > many > > > > >>astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are > natural > > > > >>benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa if > it > > > is lord of > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>quadrant". > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >I wander where this statement originates from. Of course Moon > is > > > lord only > > > > >of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, > as > > > well as for > > > > >Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the > meaning and > > > effect of > > > > >this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects > > > becmes > > > > >constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot > fructify > > > because of > > > > >no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be > considered a > > > half/baked > > > > >Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a > kendra > > > herself. So > > > > >understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply > them > > > with > > > > >intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of > meanings and > > > > >influences come out. > > > > > > > > > >Yours, > > > > > > > > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > > > > gauranga@b... > > > > > Jyotish Remedies: > > > > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > > > Phone: +36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kindly confirm these and send me > the > > > answers as > > > > >>early as possible. > > > > >> > > > > >>Thanks, > > > > >>S.Venkatesh. > > > > >> > > > > > >>_______________ > > > > >>The all new MSN Messenger! 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Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Members, Some clarity might be warranted as far as the statement on personal factors goes. the central idea put forward is that living beings affected are most at risk, as too relations involving them, eg. spouse and relations, i.e., marriage. Fields involving material factors like career and wealth are less at risk. Regards. Anurag. vedic astrology, "anuraagsharma27" <anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote: > Dear Members, > > Kendradhipati Dosha has been dealt with by Gayatri Devi Vasudev in > her text. Though she has linked it with the lord of 22nd Drekkana, > Pt. Rath has clarified that Kharesha, lord of 22nd Drekkana is a > different mystic entity from Badhak. For mutable Lagnas, the 7th Lord > is at once Badhak, Kendradhipati and Marak. If there are linkages > with 22nd Drekkana, the Graha becomes even more malefic. > > Accd. to Ms. Vasudev's text, Kendradhipati Dosha is a selective > affliction and usually involves personal factors like spouse and > progeny, depending upon placement. Intangible factors appear to be > less harmed. Placement in Trikona and Upachaya takes away a lot from > the virulence of the Kendradhipati. She also mentions that the more > unafflicted the Kendradhipati is, the freer it is to cause havoc. > > As usual confluence of factors like Karaka and Navamsha factors along > with the concerned Varga Kundali must be seen to judge the effects. > The Dosha is least for Chandra and maximum for Shukra. Shukra appears > to be just ahead of Guru as far as propensity for malefic results > goes. > > Ms. Vasudev is also of the opinion that natural Karakattwas of the > Graha suffer with this Dosha as well. Like marital troubles for Karka > Lagna due to 4th Lordship of Shukra. > > For Dwisvabhava Lagnas the Dosha shall be maximum. > > Charts are cited in Ms. Vasudev's text where Mahapurusha Yoga has not > been able to help at all. I cannot remember exactly but I think for > Kanya Lagna Guru in the 7th caused great havoc with no protection > where Shukra and other factors pertaining to spouse and marital life > were without potency. > > These are some thoughts on the matter at hand. > > Best wishes, > > Anurag. > > vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Pradeepji, > > > > I think it has already been said that the extent of kendradhipathi > dosha is proportionate to the strength of the benefic planets. Some > deem that when a mahapurusha yoga occurs in one of the kendras, the > dosha is nullified. Some others opine that while the effect of > mahapurusha yoga operates throughout life, the dosha would operate > only during the dasa/antardasa of the benefic. Sri B V > Raman's "catechism on astrology" contains some interesting queries on > this topic. > > > > But, I reckon, even for a super strong Jupiter/Venus/Mercury/Moon, > some dosha would still be there, but then how much does the dark spot > detract from the glory of the full moon? > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Thanks for the clarification.Venus & Jupiter being two strong > > natural benefics,when unable to deliver fortunate results, the > > jataka will definitely face difficulties.Thus may be termed as > > dosha.But why? was the question i was trying to understand. > > When lakshmi and Vishnu are unable to join, the results too may not > > fructify,was my interpretation with the help of texts.For the same > > reason if a planet unable to give benefic results happens to own > > maraka places or be placed there,then definitely results will be > bad. > > But if he is related to a trikona then he may be able to deliver > good > > (even if not in full).Now if he owns strongest quadrant like 10th > > and a maraka like 7th,eg.jupiter in the case of gemini lagna,then > > the jataka is faced with difficulties of strong order,more so if he > > is in 7th or 2nd.Another case being mercury for Dhanu lagna. > > > > Now Lagnesh should give good results and auspiscious(depending on > > his association and other strenghts).Now Lagna is a kendra as well > > and if he becomes inefficient just by virtue of kendra > ownership,how > > will he deliver lagnesh results?.This is my doubt.I understand this > > dosha as an inability of a planet to deliver good - is it correct? > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > <boxdel> > > wrote: > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > When a benefic owns two kendras, this happens only when the Lagna > > is > > > owned by Jupiter or Mercury. In that instance one becomes strong > > > Marakesh and badhakesh and other , though owning Lagna, gets > > > kendradhipati dosha attached to it. At least this is how I would > > > interpret the shloka. Had that not been the case the sage would > > have > > > mentioned Lagnesh not getting Kendradhipati dosha by being a > > > benefic.Others may hold different views. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Guranga Ji and Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > Kindly evaluate & correct my understanding. > > > > I have read from Laghu Parashari(I think) that Kendra dosha is > > due to > > > > lack of simultaneous owning of kendra as well as trikona.When a > > > > strong benefic like Venus or Jupiter is owning only > kendras,then > > it > > > > cannot give full results.For becoming a yoga karaka it has to > own > > > > both.For the same reason when a strong benefic is owning Lagna > > and > > > > another Kendra,the dosha(inability to do good) vanishes as > lagna > > is > > > > one among the 'tri' konas.So the dosha can remain even if it is > > > > owning just one kendra. > > > > > > > > Similarly in the case of strong malefics,owning a kendra makes > > them > > > > neutral though unable of doing good. > > > > > > > > As Mercury & Moon attains malefic/benefic nature based on > paksha > > bala > > > > and association,kendra dosha too has to be ascertained > > accordingly. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > > <boxdel> wrote: > > > > > Dear Gauranga, > > > > > Could I draw attention to following shlokas? > > > > > keNÔaixpTydae;Stu blvan! guézu^(3)yae>, > > > > > kendrädhipatyadon~astu balavän guruçukrayou` | > > > > > markTve=ip c tyaemaRrkSwans<iSwit>.10. > > > > > märakatve'pi ca tayormärakasthänasaa`sthitiu` ||10|| > > > > > > > > > > Amongst planets with ownership of angle (Kendra) Jupiter and > > Venus > > > > are > > > > > strong evil planets in ascending order. If they also own or > > occupy > > > > > Maraka sthana they become powerful Marakas. > > > > > buxStdnu cNÔae=ip Évet! tdnu tiÖx>, > > > > > budhastadanu candro'pi bhavet tadanu tadvidhau` | > > > > > n rN?ezTvdae;Stu sUyaRcNÔmsaeÉRvet!.11. > > > > > na randhreçatvadon~astu süryäcandramasorbhavet ||11|| > > > > > > > > > > Similarly Mercury on a lesser scale than the previous two and > > Moon > > > > is > > > > > lesser Maraka than Mercury. Sun and Moon are not blemished on > > > > account > > > > > of their owning 8th house. However they remain Marakas in > other > > > > Maraka > > > > > position. > > > > > > > > > > This indicates Venus is the most afflicted with Kendraadhipati > > > > dosha and > > > > > not a half baked malefic as suggested. Your views would be > > > > appreciated much. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gauranga Das wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Venkatesh, > > > > > > > > > > > >Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Sir, > > > > > >> From your article Kendradhipati > > > > dosa "may happen > > > > > >>only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, > > because > > > > the rest > > > > > >>of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras > from > > > > each other. > > > > > >>Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets > is > > > > only the > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>of two kendras". > > > > > >> I can't support your > ideas.According > > to > > > > many > > > > > >>astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are > > natural > > > > > >>benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa > if > > it > > > > is lord of > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>quadrant". > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >I wander where this statement originates from. Of course > Moon > > is > > > > lord only > > > > > >of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, > > as > > > > well as for > > > > > >Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the > > meaning and > > > > effect of > > > > > >this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects > > > > becmes > > > > > >constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot > > fructify > > > > because of > > > > > >no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be > > considered a > > > > half/baked > > > > > >Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a > > kendra > > > > herself. So > > > > > >understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply > > them > > > > with > > > > > >intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of > > meanings and > > > > > >influences come out. > > > > > > > > > > > >Yours, > > > > > > > > > > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > > > > > gauranga@b... > > > > > > Jyotish Remedies: > > > > > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > > > > Phone: +36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kindly confirm these and send me > > the > > > > answers as > > > > > >>early as possible. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Thanks, > > > > > >>S.Venkatesh. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>_______________ > > > > > >>The all new MSN Messenger! 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Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Dear Lakshmi ji, Namaste Kindly call me pradeep. This is a deep topic and as a student my knowledge is limited.As Chandrashekhar ji has mentioned in another mail,it needs more thought to guess the reason. Will share my thoughts here.Mahapurusha being a quality,is a gift.It doesn't guarantee any material success.But when one has certain qualities of high order at his disposal,the potential to grow/expand is high(concept of growth is again subjective).It depends on how one express/discharge these qualities -again related to other indications in the chart.As mahapurusha yogas are very common, the strength of the yoga is again important.Thus stating your opinion in another fashion, Mahapurusha yoga indicates the presence of a certain quality, throughout the life. But certain dynamic acts attributed to a planet,like luck and protection from jupiter, needs organic help from other support zones/systems within a chart.Kendradhipathi dosha may find a place here.For eg without the ownership of trikona sthanas,Jupiter though capable of doing certain things by nature,may not be able to fulfill all.This is an aadheya principle while its nature is an aadhara principle. This is similar to rashis and bhavas.Rashis have inherent properties irrespective of, which bhava, they represent in individual charts.Rashis's property is aadhara while bhava is aadheya.If a kendradhipathi acting as a dasha lord is not getting support from other major pillar of the system(trikona) then during its dasha/antar dasha,bad results as well may be there and remain more conspicous, as compared to other times. But when such a kendradhipathi,is not forming a mahapurusha,or not placed in a trikona - then, even the aadhara principles may not be present in full,always. I also feel if a kendradhipathi is not owning a trikona,but relates to a trikona,(For eg if Venus & Sun are associating for Aries lagna) - then Venus though a ,strong maraka & kendradhipathi, can at times give good by behaving as 7th lord associating 5th, along with difficulties due to 7th ownership. It is not freed of the blemish but reduced.If such a Venus is staying without any relation to a trikona lord,the results may be different.Similar is Mercury when associating with Sun for dhanu lagna. Thus the quality by virtue of mahapurusha is like the full moon and the dark spot being,the gaps and discontinuities due to lack of association.As you and other members are more learned,these are just my observations. Regds Pradeep vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > Om Gurave Namah > > Namaste Pradeepji, > > I think it has already been said that the extent of kendradhipathi dosha is proportionate to the strength of the benefic planets. Some deem that when a mahapurusha yoga occurs in one of the kendras, the dosha is nullified. Some others opine that while the effect of mahapurusha yoga operates throughout life, the dosha would operate only during the dasa/antardasa of the benefic. Sri B V Raman's "catechism on astrology" contains some interesting queries on this topic. > > But, I reckon, even for a super strong Jupiter/Venus/Mercury/Moon, some dosha would still be there, but then how much does the dark spot detract from the glory of the full moon? > > Regards, > Lakshmi vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > Thanks for the clarification.Venus & Jupiter being two strong > natural benefics,when unable to deliver fortunate results, the > jataka will definitely face difficulties.Thus may be termed as > dosha.But why? was the question i was trying to understand. > When lakshmi and Vishnu are unable to join, the results too may not > fructify,was my interpretation with the help of texts.For the same > reason if a planet unable to give benefic results happens to own > maraka places or be placed there,then definitely results will be bad. > But if he is related to a trikona then he may be able to deliver good > (even if not in full).Now if he owns strongest quadrant like 10th > and a maraka like 7th,eg.jupiter in the case of gemini lagna,then > the jataka is faced with difficulties of strong order,more so if he > is in 7th or 2nd.Another case being mercury for Dhanu lagna. > > Now Lagnesh should give good results and auspiscious(depending on > his association and other strenghts).Now Lagna is a kendra as well > and if he becomes inefficient just by virtue of kendra ownership,how > will he deliver lagnesh results?.This is my doubt.I understand this > dosha as an inability of a planet to deliver good - is it correct? > > Respect > Pradeep > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar <boxdel> > wrote: > > Dear Pradeep, > > When a benefic owns two kendras, this happens only when the Lagna > is > > owned by Jupiter or Mercury. In that instance one becomes strong > > Marakesh and badhakesh and other , though owning Lagna, gets > > kendradhipati dosha attached to it. At least this is how I would > > interpret the shloka. Had that not been the case the sage would > have > > mentioned Lagnesh not getting Kendradhipati dosha by being a > > benefic.Others may hold different views. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > Dear Guranga Ji and Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > Kindly evaluate & correct my understanding. > > > I have read from Laghu Parashari(I think) that Kendra dosha is > due to > > > lack of simultaneous owning of kendra as well as trikona.When a > > > strong benefic like Venus or Jupiter is owning only kendras,then > it > > > cannot give full results.For becoming a yoga karaka it has to own > > > both.For the same reason when a strong benefic is owning Lagna > and > > > another Kendra,the dosha(inability to do good) vanishes as lagna > is > > > one among the 'tri' konas.So the dosha can remain even if it is > > > owning just one kendra. > > > > > > Similarly in the case of strong malefics,owning a kendra makes > them > > > neutral though unable of doing good. > > > > > > As Mercury & Moon attains malefic/benefic nature based on paksha > bala > > > and association,kendra dosha too has to be ascertained > accordingly. > > > > > > Respect > > > Pradeep > > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > <boxdel> wrote: > > > > Dear Gauranga, > > > > Could I draw attention to following shlokas? > > > > keNÔaixpTydae;Stu blvan! guézu^(3)yae>, > > > > kendrädhipatyadon~astu balavän guruçukrayou` | > > > > markTve=ip c tyaemaRrkSwans<iSwit>.10. > > > > märakatve'pi ca tayormärakasthänasaa`sthitiu` ||10|| > > > > > > > > Amongst planets with ownership of angle (Kendra) Jupiter and > Venus > > > are > > > > strong evil planets in ascending order. If they also own or > occupy > > > > Maraka sthana they become powerful Marakas. > > > > buxStdnu cNÔae=ip Évet! tdnu tiÖx>, > > > > budhastadanu candro'pi bhavet tadanu tadvidhau` | > > > > n rN?ezTvdae;Stu sUyaRcNÔmsaeÉRvet!.11. > > > > na randhreçatvadon~astu süryäcandramasorbhavet ||11|| > > > > > > > > Similarly Mercury on a lesser scale than the previous two and > Moon > > > is > > > > lesser Maraka than Mercury. Sun and Moon are not blemished on > > > account > > > > of their owning 8th house. However they remain Marakas in other > > > Maraka > > > > position. > > > > > > > > This indicates Venus is the most afflicted with Kendraadhipati > > > dosha and > > > > not a half baked malefic as suggested. Your views would be > > > appreciated much. > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Gauranga Das wrote: > > > > > > > > >JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > > > > > > >Dear Venkatesh, > > > > > > > > > >Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Sir, > > > > >> From your article Kendradhipati > > > dosa "may happen > > > > >>only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, > because > > > the rest > > > > >>of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras from > > > each other. > > > > >>Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets is > > > only the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>of two kendras". > > > > >> I can't support your ideas.According > to > > > many > > > > >>astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are > natural > > > > >>benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa if > it > > > is lord of > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>quadrant". > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >I wander where this statement originates from. Of course Moon > is > > > lord only > > > > >of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, > as > > > well as for > > > > >Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the > meaning and > > > effect of > > > > >this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects > > > becmes > > > > >constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot > fructify > > > because of > > > > >no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be > considered a > > > half/baked > > > > >Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a > kendra > > > herself. So > > > > >understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply > them > > > with > > > > >intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of > meanings and > > > > >influences come out. > > > > > > > > > >Yours, > > > > > > > > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > > > > gauranga@b... > > > > > Jyotish Remedies: > > > > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > > > Phone: +36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kindly confirm these and send me > the > > > answers as > > > > >>early as possible. > > > > >> > > > > >>Thanks, > > > > >>S.Venkatesh. > > > > >> > > > > > >>_______________ > > > > >>The all new MSN Messenger! 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Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Dear Anurag Thanks for sharing your understanding/views. I beleive, a comprehensive understanding needs to be there,before arriving at conclusions, in cases similar to this.Why Mahapurusha effetcs were absent,has to be analysed from different angles.The tangible and intangible effects referred to,can be taken as an example.When a researcher finds problems related to spouse and marriage(tangible),he/she may have been having kendradhipathi dosha and mahapurusha in mind and hence chances are likely to ignore other factors. For eg when jupiter is in 7th ,a)for a lady it is a karaka for husband placed in karaka sthana b)sthana bhrashta jeevaha principle c)Jupiter as a planet with high energy (can be even sexual energy )and being placed in 7th, resulting in disturbing effects etc has to be born in mind as well,apart from other general strenghts and aspects. Thus one human error that may creep in most of the times, is the reasearchers attempt to associate his/her reasearch topic as the major cause.Also in similar lines when we say ''more unafflicted the benefic is ,the more freer to do do havoc'' - affliction from another angle may be like a link to other zones of the chart.Mahapurusha being a quality may not always be, observed in a tangible form. Regds Pradeep vedic astrology, "anuraagsharma27" <anuraagsharma27@h...> wrote: > Dear Members, > > Kendradhipati Dosha has been dealt with by Gayatri Devi Vasudev in > her text. Though she has linked it with the lord of 22nd Drekkana, > Pt. Rath has clarified that Kharesha, lord of 22nd Drekkana is a > different mystic entity from Badhak. For mutable Lagnas, the 7th Lord > is at once Badhak, Kendradhipati and Marak. If there are linkages > with 22nd Drekkana, the Graha becomes even more malefic. > > Accd. to Ms. Vasudev's text, Kendradhipati Dosha is a selective > affliction and usually involves personal factors like spouse and > progeny, depending upon placement. Intangible factors appear to be > less harmed. Placement in Trikona and Upachaya takes away a lot from > the virulence of the Kendradhipati. She also mentions that the more > unafflicted the Kendradhipati is, the freer it is to cause havoc. > > As usual confluence of factors like Karaka and Navamsha factors along > with the concerned Varga Kundali must be seen to judge the effects. > The Dosha is least for Chandra and maximum for Shukra. Shukra appears > to be just ahead of Guru as far as propensity for malefic results > goes. > > Ms. Vasudev is also of the opinion that natural Karakattwas of the > Graha suffer with this Dosha as well. Like marital troubles for Karka > Lagna due to 4th Lordship of Shukra. > > For Dwisvabhava Lagnas the Dosha shall be maximum. > > Charts are cited in Ms. Vasudev's text where Mahapurusha Yoga has not > been able to help at all. I cannot remember exactly but I think for > Kanya Lagna Guru in the 7th caused great havoc with no protection > where Shukra and other factors pertaining to spouse and marital life > were without potency. > > These are some thoughts on the matter at hand. > > Best wishes, > > Anurag. > > vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh > <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote: > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > Namaste Pradeepji, > > > > I think it has already been said that the extent of kendradhipathi > dosha is proportionate to the strength of the benefic planets. Some > deem that when a mahapurusha yoga occurs in one of the kendras, the > dosha is nullified. Some others opine that while the effect of > mahapurusha yoga operates throughout life, the dosha would operate > only during the dasa/antardasa of the benefic. Sri B V > Raman's "catechism on astrology" contains some interesting queries on > this topic. > > > > But, I reckon, even for a super strong Jupiter/Venus/Mercury/Moon, > some dosha would still be there, but then how much does the dark spot > detract from the glory of the full moon? > > > > Regards, > > Lakshmi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep> wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekhar ji > > > > Thanks for the clarification.Venus & Jupiter being two strong > > natural benefics,when unable to deliver fortunate results, the > > jataka will definitely face difficulties.Thus may be termed as > > dosha.But why? was the question i was trying to understand. > > When lakshmi and Vishnu are unable to join, the results too may not > > fructify,was my interpretation with the help of texts.For the same > > reason if a planet unable to give benefic results happens to own > > maraka places or be placed there,then definitely results will be > bad. > > But if he is related to a trikona then he may be able to deliver > good > > (even if not in full).Now if he owns strongest quadrant like 10th > > and a maraka like 7th,eg.jupiter in the case of gemini lagna,then > > the jataka is faced with difficulties of strong order,more so if he > > is in 7th or 2nd.Another case being mercury for Dhanu lagna. > > > > Now Lagnesh should give good results and auspiscious(depending on > > his association and other strenghts).Now Lagna is a kendra as well > > and if he becomes inefficient just by virtue of kendra > ownership,how > > will he deliver lagnesh results?.This is my doubt.I understand this > > dosha as an inability of a planet to deliver good - is it correct? > > > > Respect > > Pradeep > > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > <boxdel> > > wrote: > > > Dear Pradeep, > > > When a benefic owns two kendras, this happens only when the Lagna > > is > > > owned by Jupiter or Mercury. In that instance one becomes strong > > > Marakesh and badhakesh and other , though owning Lagna, gets > > > kendradhipati dosha attached to it. At least this is how I would > > > interpret the shloka. Had that not been the case the sage would > > have > > > mentioned Lagnesh not getting Kendradhipati dosha by being a > > > benefic.Others may hold different views. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Guranga Ji and Chandrashekhar ji > > > > > > > > Kindly evaluate & correct my understanding. > > > > I have read from Laghu Parashari(I think) that Kendra dosha is > > due to > > > > lack of simultaneous owning of kendra as well as trikona.When a > > > > strong benefic like Venus or Jupiter is owning only > kendras,then > > it > > > > cannot give full results.For becoming a yoga karaka it has to > own > > > > both.For the same reason when a strong benefic is owning Lagna > > and > > > > another Kendra,the dosha(inability to do good) vanishes as > lagna > > is > > > > one among the 'tri' konas.So the dosha can remain even if it is > > > > owning just one kendra. > > > > > > > > Similarly in the case of strong malefics,owning a kendra makes > > them > > > > neutral though unable of doing good. > > > > > > > > As Mercury & Moon attains malefic/benefic nature based on > paksha > > bala > > > > and association,kendra dosha too has to be ascertained > > accordingly. > > > > > > > > Respect > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > > > > <boxdel> wrote: > > > > > Dear Gauranga, > > > > > Could I draw attention to following shlokas? > > > > > keNÔaixpTydae;Stu blvan! guézu^(3)yae>, > > > > > kendrädhipatyadon~astu balavän guruçukrayou` | > > > > > markTve=ip c tyaemaRrkSwans<iSwit>.10. > > > > > märakatve'pi ca tayormärakasthänasaa`sthitiu` ||10|| > > > > > > > > > > Amongst planets with ownership of angle (Kendra) Jupiter and > > Venus > > > > are > > > > > strong evil planets in ascending order. If they also own or > > occupy > > > > > Maraka sthana they become powerful Marakas. > > > > > buxStdnu cNÔae=ip Évet! tdnu tiÖx>, > > > > > budhastadanu candro'pi bhavet tadanu tadvidhau` | > > > > > n rN?ezTvdae;Stu sUyaRcNÔmsaeÉRvet!.11. > > > > > na randhreçatvadon~astu süryäcandramasorbhavet ||11|| > > > > > > > > > > Similarly Mercury on a lesser scale than the previous two and > > Moon > > > > is > > > > > lesser Maraka than Mercury. Sun and Moon are not blemished on > > > > account > > > > > of their owning 8th house. However they remain Marakas in > other > > > > Maraka > > > > > position. > > > > > > > > > > This indicates Venus is the most afflicted with Kendraadhipati > > > > dosha and > > > > > not a half baked malefic as suggested. Your views would be > > > > appreciated much. > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gauranga Das wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Venkatesh, > > > > > > > > > > > >Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Dear Sir, > > > > > >> From your article Kendradhipati > > > > dosa "may happen > > > > > >>only to two planets, if you look, to Jupiter and Mercury, > > because > > > > the rest > > > > > >>of the planets do not own two sings which are in Kendras > from > > > > each other. > > > > > >>Dosha means a fault. This is to indicate that if a planets > is > > > > only the > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>of two kendras". > > > > > >> I can't support your > ideas.According > > to > > > > many > > > > > >>astrologers "Jupiter, Venus, waxing Moon and Mercury are > > natural > > > > > >>benefics.These benefic planets attains Kendradhipati dosa > if > > it > > > > is lord of > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>quadrant". > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >I wander where this statement originates from. Of course > Moon > > is > > > > lord only > > > > > >of one house, so if it's a kendra, you could consider it so, > > as > > > > well as for > > > > > >Sun then. However the first thign is to understand the > > meaning and > > > > effect of > > > > > >this dosa. A planet which is supposed to give benefic effects > > > > becmes > > > > > >constricted by this dodsa and the benefic effects cannot > > fructify > > > > because of > > > > > >no connection from trikonas. As for Venus, it may be > > considered a > > > > half/baked > > > > > >Kendradhipati dosha, if Venus owns one kendra and is in a > > kendra > > > > herself. So > > > > > >understanding the basic principles you are supposed to apply > > them > > > > with > > > > > >intelligence, and then you will see so many shadows of > > meanings and > > > > > >influences come out. > > > > > > > > > > > >Yours, > > > > > > > > > > > >Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > > > > > gauranga@b... > > > > > > Jyotish Remedies: > > > > > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > > > > Phone: +36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kindly confirm these and send me > > the > > > > answers as > > > > > >>early as possible. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Thanks, > > > > > >>S.Venkatesh. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>_______________ > > > > > >>The all new MSN Messenger! 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