Guest guest Posted August 13, 2004 Report Share Posted August 13, 2004 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Imran bhai, The dasa I use in Yoga Pravesha charts is my own invention. It is not from classics or from tradition. I defined it myself. So I said in my original mail that I was not fully ready to go public. I wanted to first explain my thinking to Sanjay ji and get his blessings. Sanjay ji came to my house last night. I took the opportunity to run my idea by him and get his blessings. He thought it was based on sound logic and so I will share it with all. * * * Tithi Pravesha is based on tithi, i.e. jala tattva (watery nature) ruled by Venus. So Ashtottari dasa for which Venus is acharya is considered and Tithi is used as the basis. Tithis are ruled by 8 planets and so are Ashtottari dasas. There is a natural affinity. Yoga Pravesha is based on Yoga, i.e. aakaasa tattva (ethery nature), ruled by Jupiter. So I considered Vimsottari dasa for which Jupiter is acharya. I considered Yoga as the basis. Yogas are ruled by 9 planets and so are Vimsottari dasas. There is a natural affinity. Thus, the underlying principle is the same as in Tithi Pravesha and Tithi Ashtottari dasa. Try Yoga Vimsottari dasa with Yoga Pravesha charts and see it for yourself. It works very well. * * * Here are the details of computation for those who did not get it yet: (1) Yoga Pravesha (YP) chart: Find when Sun returns to his natal sign. During that month, find the day when the Yoga (Sun-Moon Yoga) of birth returns. Find the moment when the fraction of yoga remaining matches that at birth. In other words, find the moment when the sum of the longitudes of Sun and Moon matches that at birth. Cast a chart for that moment. (2) Yoga Vimsottari (YV) dasa: Find the ruler of the Yoga. The first dasa belongs to him and the next dasas are based on the normal Vimsottari dasa order. The first dasa remainder is based on the fraction of yoga remaining. Suppose 40% of Siddhi yoga is left when someone is born. The first dasa is of Mars, who rules Siddhi yoga (use JHLite to find Yoga rulers). Dasa is of 7x40/100=2.8 years. Then Rahu dasa of 18 years, Jupiter dasa of 16 years etc will follow. Of course, dasas have to be compressed to one year in an annual YP chart. Warning: YP charts and YV dasas are just a research and not based on the teachings of the parampara, even though they appear to be based on solid logic and the foundations laid by the parampara. * * * My experiments with Nakshatra Pravesha charts (cast when Sun returns to his natal sign and Moon returns to his natal *longitude*) were limited. I found the best results with Tribhagi Vimsottari dasa. But I could be wrong and there could be a better dasa. * * * Tithi is of jala tattva (watery nature) and shows prosperity, well- being, and stability. Thus, Tithi Pravesha charts show a variety of events relating to these angles. They are the most important of all Pravesha charts. Yoga is of aakaasa tattva (ethery nature) and shows the binding force, relationships and internal harmony. Thus, Yoga Pravesha charts cover these angles. They show marriage, meeting spouse, birth of children, meeting important people in life, misunderstandings, relationship issues etc very well. In my limited experiments with Nakshatra Pravesha charts, they show diseases, positive and negative mood changes, death and also various efforts aimed at gaining some kind of strength or the other. In all the cases, hora lord is the ruler of the year. If possible, I will try to give some examples of YP charts, YV dasa and NP charts sometime next week. That will make it clearer. * * * Pt. Rath told me yesterday that SJC Guru (technically, SJC Gurvi) Sat Siri Khalsa is presenting her researches on Yoga Pravesha in California later this month, at the SJC conference. I hope some of you can avail of that opportunity. I want to clarify on this occasion that her researches and mine are independent. There may be some similarities and some differences. I look forward to finding out details and especially finding out what dasa she uses. I wonder if she too thought of Yoga Vimsottari dasa as the Jupiterian analog of Venusian Tithi Ashtottari dasa. May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > Shri Narasimharao, > Namaste, > > The notion of panchang pravesh i.e. return chart for Tithi, Nakshatra, Yoga etc. is a unique theory that still needs special attention. We are already seen very good eloboration of Tithi Pravesh (Luni-Solar Day Return) Chart by Gurus of SJC. Although among panchangas, the Nakshatra pravesh (Natal Constellation Return Chart) has been used in various means and forms. Among medieval practitioners the Nakshatra pravesh were in vogue. It is erected when every month the transit Moon conjoins the degrees of the natal Moon. Like a monthly return chart, that shows mental make-up and general events at personal level for a month. > > The panchanga prevesh charts need observational/experimental research so that their rules of interpretaion and applied dasas criterias can be set. > > Few months ago, you were said that you are trying to write a book on the very topic. I hope and pray that God may bestow you wisdom, courge and firmness to fulfil the task, so that jytish students find a good source book. > > Personal Regards > Imran > > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste, > > In the part of India I am from, Tithi based birthday celebration is the most > popular (though I must concede that my father pays special attention to the > nakshatra based birthday too). Perhaps there are parts of India where > nakshatra based birthday is popular. > > I have been experimenting with Yoga Pravesha charts and Nakshatra Pravesha > charts with two different dasas. Annual TP, YP and NP charts are all cast > when Sun is transiting in his natal sign. In TP, Moon-Sun longitude > differential matches that at birth. In YP, Moon+Sun (or the mid- point of > Moon and Sun) matches that at birth. In NP, Moon's longitude matches that at > birth. Of course, if Sun's longitude itself matches that at birth, that is > Tajaka. Please note that NP and YP are research only and not from the > tradition. Only TP is from the tradition. > > As per my researches, each chart is the best for certain matters. I will > share my researches with all at a later point of time. I am not fully ready. > > I am cc'ing this mail to the vedic astrology for the benefit of > others. I hope you do not mind. > > best regards, > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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