2nd house Jup in various roles--to Mr.Razdan Chandraji

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Om Namo Narayanaya,

Dear Rema,

This is not enough. Strenght of mercury in yourchart is a must for sound health.

MERCURY IS IN PISCES. DEBITATION IS CANCELLED DUE

TO PARIVARTAN BETEWEEN 10TH AND 1ST HOUSES AND BEINGIN KENDRA FROM MOON IN SAG.

No, debilitation cannot be cancelled by parivarthana. There are standard

neecha banga Yogas, such as being in kendras to moon etc. This position only

indicates possible illness in childhood. Parivartana indicates "change" of

roles.. some food for thoughts

So from my experience Jupiter does take care of thehouse it occupies, but

probably harms the houses itowns.

No, no.. this is wrong. Why should Jupiter harm thehouses owned by him? Even a

malefic person (graha) takes care of his ownhouse, right? Jupiter is in

inimical sign, and is probablysupported by venus affliction to give remarriage.

WOULDNT THE PARIVARTAN CANCEL THE EFFECT OF JUPITER

BEING IN INIMICAL SIGN?VENUS IS IN 9TH HOUSE IN PARIVARTAN WITH SATURN IN5TH.

NOT ASPECTED BY ANY MALEFICS.

No, parivartana cannot change the dignity. Jupiter remains in inimical sign.

Parivartana of venus and saturn indicates rise of children in their middle

age

Best wishes

Zoran

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Dear Zoran,

 

Thanks for your good wishes and encouragement.

 

Regards,

LakshmiZoran Radosavljevic <ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net> wrote:

Om namo Narayanaya,Dear Lakshmi,How are you? I still remember our nice

conversations from Puri...Yes, basically we think the same point. I wasn't

applying that guru suffers by giving to others. It was the matter of stana.

Guru karakatwvas can be enhanced by bowing down to Lord Shiva, as Sage

Parashara states that one single bow to the Lord will protect the native from

thousands sins. Being inherently good and benefic, guru cannot always protect

the stana occupied by him, particularly if weak or owerpowered by malefics.

What a good can weak person can do? In times, guru tends to give away the

fruits of the stana occupied by him for ultimate good.. That was my point..Keep

up the good workBest wishesZoran

Zoran, the number 9 and the moksha sthana basically represent “Poornatwa” or

completeness. Guru, born in the star of Sun and exulting in the house of Moon,

is representative of the “Amrita tattwa” of both. As the light spread by sun

and Moon is never diminished by distribution, so is the knowledge (the real

wealth/power =swadesho poojyathe raja, vidwaan sarvatra poojyathe) given by

Guru never depleted. Jupiter, does not suffer by giving to others.

 

Saturn himself is eulogized as “Gyaana chakshuh” and is said to have “adho

drishti” When he lifts his eyes and trains his terrifying drishti at any one,

that glance is powered by gyaana, by Jupiter vedic astrology/

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To concerned people,

 

Sanjay Ji had mentioned in an elaborate message on this forum the

various grounds for Neechabhanga and also those for Neechabhanga

Rajayoga.

 

Parivartana was indeed mentioned as one of the grounds for

Neechabhanga. But parivartana with debilitation lord involving the

3rd Lord was said to give an up and down Khal Yoga and involving

Dusthanas an outright Duryoga. Apart from this, Sanjay Ji named this

as one of the grounds for Neechabhanga. Perhaps interested people can

search the archives for the said mail. I had obtained a printout of

the same.

 

For information 5 other grounds were mentioned for Neechabhanga:

1. Neecha Graha is exalted in Navamsha.

2. Neecha Graha is conjoined an Uchcha Graha/ Svagrahi Graha.

3. Neecha Graha is Drishta by Neecha Nath. Sanjay Ji recommended

Rashi Drishti or said that he used it in any case.

4.Neecha Graha is Vakri.

5. Neecha Graha is in a Kendra from Lagna.

 

For Neechabhanga Rajayoga:

1. Neecha Graha's Neecha Nath is in Kendra from Lagna/Moon.

2. Neecha Graha's Uchcha Nath is in Kendra from Lagna/Moon.

3. The Graha that would be exalted in Neecha Graha's Rashi of

placement is in Kendra from Lagna/Moon.

4.Neecha Graha's Neecha and Uchcha Naths were conjoined in the same

Rashi.

 

Any errors in reproducing these combinations as taught by Sanjay Ji

on this list ought to be attributed only to my memory or lack

thereof.Having said that, I am fairly certain this was the basic

essence. For complete certainty, search the relevant mail from Sanjay

Ji.

 

Best wishes.

 

Anurag Sharma.

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Zoran Radosavljevic

<ahimsa@N...> wrote:

> Om Namo Narayanaya,

> Dear Rema,

>

> >>This is not enough. Strenght of mercury in your

> >>chart is a must for

> >>sound health.

> >>

> >>>MERCURY IS IN PISCES. DEBITATION IS CANCELLED DUE

> >>>

> >TO PARIVARTAN BETEWEEN 10TH AND 1ST HOUSES AND BEING

> >IN KENDRA FROM MOON IN SAG.

> >

> No, debilitation cannot be cancelled by parivarthana. There are

standard

> neecha banga Yogas, such as being in kendras to moon etc. This

position

> only indicates possible illness in childhood. Parivartana indicates

> "change" of roles.. some food for thoughts

>

> >

> >>>So from my experience Jupiter does take care of the

> >>>house it occupies, but probably harms the houses it

> >>>owns.

> >>>

> >>No, no.. this is wrong. Why should Jupiter harm the

> >>houses owned by him?

> >>Even a malefic person (graha) takes care of his own

> >>house, right?

> >>Jupiter is in inimical sign, and is probably

> >>supported by venus

> >>affliction to give remarriage.

> >>

> >>>WOULDNT THE PARIVARTAN CANCEL THE EFFECT OF JUPITER

> >>>

> >BEING IN INIMICAL SIGN?

> >

> >VENUS IS IN 9TH HOUSE IN PARIVARTAN WITH SATURN IN5TH. NOT

ASPECTED BY ANY MALEFICS.

> >

> No, parivartana cannot change the dignity. Jupiter remains in

inimical

> sign.

> Parivartana of venus and saturn indicates rise of children in their

> middle age

> Best wishes

> Zoran

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Om Namo Narayanaya,

Dear Rema,

Please do not mind sending this to the list. This is my policy. I will

discuss the charts but for the sake of learning. So it should go on the

lists so that we can all learn, you agree?

 

>Change of Roles..If Jupiter were to act as Mercury the

>lords of 1 and 4. My physical and home affairs would

>be in focus from the time jupiter dasa started.

>

>But instead the 7 and 10 affairs are the focus of my

>life now. Infact from the time jupiter started I have

>to constantly change jobs. This parivartan is not

>clear.

>Or Is this because of Jupiter being in innimical

>place? Please explain.

>

When I say parivartana of guru and budha, it is parivarthana of lagna

lord budha in 10th house with 10th lord guru in 1st house. It does not

involve 4th house. So, in that sense, I said that they would change

roles, and this is exactly what is happening in your life, as you said

constanly changing jobs. Jupiter being in inimical place, actually

according to full sambanda he is in neutral sign, and budha in

debilitation indicates that you are forced to change the jobs due to

inimical or weak circumstances. Hope it is clearer now,

Thanks

Zoran

 

>

>I am attaching my natal chart for your kind review.

>

>Respectfully,

>Rema

>

>

>

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