Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Hi Rahul, After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would surely love to see the reply by experts on this. I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I correct, experts kindly guide. Regards, Sushmita vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday" <rahul_10uday> wrote: > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far they > are true? > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such people > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with them > since their past birth. > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from Saints, > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life. > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your father > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, even > the Devil > > Rahul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Hello, Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born. Keeping company of saints for people with 11th house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi observation. 11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN or MEN and tends to make you look beyond the fence of Marital boundry. Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father) might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father might be the only son or last son and may have better share of ancestral property than other siblings. So it is better not to leave the side of father. Saint part escapes comprehension of self. Tatvam-Asi vedic astrology, "sushmita34" <sushmita34> wrote: > > Hi Rahul, > After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would > surely love to see the reply by experts on this. > I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I correct, > experts kindly guide. > > Regards, > Sushmita > > vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday" > <rahul_10uday> wrote: > > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far they > > are true? > > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such > people > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with > them > > since their past birth. > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from > Saints, > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life. > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your > father > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, > even > > the Devil > > > > Rahul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Hello, Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born. Keeping company of saints for people with 11th house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi observation. 11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN or MEN and tends to make you look beyond the fence of Marital boundry. Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father) might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father might be the only son or last son and may have better share of ancestral property than other siblings. So it is better not to leave the side of father. Saint part escapes comprehension of self. Tatvam-Asi vedic astrology, "sushmita34" <sushmita34> wrote: > > Hi Rahul, > After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would > surely love to see the reply by experts on this. > I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I correct, > experts kindly guide. > > Regards, > Sushmita > > vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday" > <rahul_10uday> wrote: > > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far they > > are true? > > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such > people > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with > them > > since their past birth. > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from > Saints, > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life. > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your > father > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, > even > > the Devil > > > > Rahul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Dear Rahul, I think the first parameter could be correct since Guru aspects 5th house representing Son/shishya/ one seeking blessings. Jupiter being Lord of the natural 9th house would indicate increase in income on account of father. Associating with saint bringing penury does not seem to have any logic. Dear Vatsa,, Why would Guru in 11th give a roving eye, when he would be aspecting the 7th house and thus extending his protection to that part of a person's life? Chandrashekhar. nameisego wrote: Hello, Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born. Keeping company of saints for people with 11th house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi observation. 11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN or MEN and tends to make you look beyond the fence of Marital boundry. Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father) might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father might be the only son or last son and may have better share of ancestral property than other siblings. So it is better not to leave the side of father. Saint part escapes comprehension of self. Tatvam-Asi vedic astrology, "sushmita34" <sushmita34> wrote: > > Hi Rahul, > After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would > surely love to see the reply by experts on this. > I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I correct, > experts kindly guide. > > Regards, > Sushmita > > vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday" > <rahul_10uday> wrote: > > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far they > > are true? > > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such > people > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with > them > > since their past birth. > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from > Saints, > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life. > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your > father > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, > even > > the Devil > > > > Rahul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Tatvam Asi. Can you please explain the rationale behind "interest in OTHER WOMEN or MEN and tends to make you look beyond the fence of Marital boundary"? I though aspect on 7H will keep the relationship within dharmic boundaries! Thanks and Regards Ramesh nameisego [nameisego] Sunday, October 17, 2004 7:55 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th placed jupiter fellows? Hello, Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born. Keeping company of saints for people with 11th house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi observation. 11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN or MEN and tends to make you look beyond the fence of Marital boundry. Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father) might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father might be the only son or last son and may have better share of ancestral property than other siblings. So it is better not to leave the side of father. Saint part escapes comprehension of self. Tatvam-Asi vedic astrology, "sushmita34" <sushmita34> wrote: > > Hi Rahul, > After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would > surely love to see the reply by experts on this. > I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I correct, > experts kindly guide. > > Regards, > Sushmita > > vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday" > <rahul_10uday> wrote: > > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far they > > are true? > > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such > people > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with > them > > since their past birth. > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from > Saints, > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life. > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your > father > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, > even > > the Devil > > > > Rahul Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 HiHi there, Can anyone help me in future predictions based on the horoscope and provide the guidelines etc?? Pls help me if you know or know of anyone. Thanks and God bless you!Sports, sports and more sports! Keep up with all that’s happening! Stay connected with MSN Sports! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Namasthe! I don't feel Jupiter in 11th will make one first born. With regard to saints, I don't think it is true. One aspect of Jupiter is to make a person greedy and blindfolded (temporarily). In a chart where Jupiter is in 11th or 5th, the native will become jealous and loses the ability to judge between right and wrong. This however is applicable, if Jupiter is malefic. The native can be compared to Dhratharashtra (in Mahabharatha). Dhratharashtra will become so fond of his son that he forgets what is right and what is wrong. The first sloka of Bhagawad Gita gives a clear picture. The sloka is as follows: Dhratarashtra Uvacha "Dharmakshetre Kuruksetre samavetah yuyutsavaha Mamakah pandavaschiva kimakurvatha sanjaya" This can be understood as Dhratarashtra says: In the land of Dharma (he contradicts when he himself is practicing Adharma), which belongs to the Kurus, assembled and eager (note the terminology used - eager) to battle, Mine and Pandu sons (Here, he differentiates between his and his brother's sons. Pandu is his brother and Pandu's sons are naturally like his sons. He is so much fond of his son, that he starts differentiating, and which eventually led to the Great War), are doing, Sanjaya Let us consider Jupiter's position in 11th for all ascendants. Aries: Jupiter as lord of 9th and 12th is Benefic. If placed in 11th, he will be in the house of Saturn. He will be good and be a philanthropic. Taurus: Jupiter as lord of 8th and 11th is Malefic. As lord of the 11th, in the 11th, he will become very greedy, but financially will be well off. Gemini: Jupiter as lord of 7th and 10th will be a kendradhipathi. His presence in 11th will land him in a friend's house. The native will not be well off, but will undertake good deeds. Cancer: Jupiter as lord of 6th and 9th becomes neutral. In 11th, he will be in the house of Venus, his enemy and not do much good. The native could have more enemies and debt. If influenced by Mars, can produce Yoga. Leo: Jupiter as lord of 5th and 8th becomes malefic. Jupiter in the 11th will land him in Mercury's house. The native will have uneven income and will be fond of pleasures. Virgo: Jupiter as the lord of 4th and 7th will become kendradhipathi. In 11th, he will be in house of the Moon. The person will be God-fearing and will undertake charitable deeds. Moon in 2nd house can give rise to Yoga. Libra: Jupiter as the lord of 3rd and 6th will become malefic. In 11th, he will increase debts and enemies. He will be first born and will be easily offended. Scorpio: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 5th is the best benefic. His presence in 11th will give rise to Yoga. He will make the native ambitious. Sagittarius: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 4th lord, in 11th will make the person highly ambitious, open-minded and unassuming. Capricorn: Jupiter as the 3rd and 12th lord makes him a malefic. In 11th, the native will be Casanova. He is usually unhappy. Presence of Mars in 11th will not result in Yoga. Aquarius: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 11th is malefic. In 11th, he will give rise to Yoga and make the native rich and influential. The native will also involve in inappropriate acts. Pisces: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 10th lord in 11th will make the native greedy and jealous. Hope this helps. Om Tat Sat, Raman Suprajarama nameisego [nameisego] Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:26 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th placed jupiter fellows? Hello, Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born. Keeping company of saints for people with 11th house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi observation. 11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN or MEN and tends to make you look beyond the fence of Marital boundry. Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father) might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father might be the only son or last son and may have better share of ancestral property than other siblings. So it is better not to leave the side of father. Saint part escapes comprehension of self. Tatvam-Asi vedic astrology, "sushmita34" <sushmita34> wrote: > > Hi Rahul, > After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would > surely love to see the reply by experts on this. > I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I correct, > experts kindly guide. > > Regards, > Sushmita > > vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday" > <rahul_10uday> wrote: > > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far they > > are true? > > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such > people > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with > them > > since their past birth. > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from > Saints, > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life. > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your > father > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, > even > > the Devil > > > > Rahul Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 Hello Sri Raman , Please understand that NO RULE IN ASTROLOGY IS WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS. Self has posted a lot on Jupiter which you might have had a chance to read. Principle of Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva.... has been found by self as holding true in majority of cases. Thus Guru destroys(To a larger or smaller extent) the bhava where he sits. Self is of opinion that Guru acts (as white ant destoying the inner wood) and any other bad period/dasa etc cracks and destroys the Bhava indication. Thus Guru weakens any bhava where he sits to such an extent that that bhava indications suffer. Coming to question of Guru,yes you are absolutely right. Guru in 11th makes a person a perfact opportunist and this Guru may make him not to let any opportunity just GO ....even if that is something like jumping the boundry of Morality. Self knows cases with 11th Guru people who look very SADHU and pious. But at the first given opportunity, they do not mind cheating their spouses. Due to reasons their birth data is not posted here. Tatvam-Asi vedic astrology, "Raman Suprajarama" <cru115@n...> wrote: > > Namasthe! > > I don't feel Jupiter in 11th will make one first born. With regard to > saints, I don't think it is true. > > One aspect of Jupiter is to make a person greedy and blindfolded > (temporarily). In a chart where Jupiter is in 11th or 5th, the native will > become jealous and loses the ability to judge between right and wrong. This > however is applicable, if Jupiter is malefic. > > The native can be compared to Dhratharashtra (in Mahabharatha). > Dhratharashtra will become so fond of his son that he forgets what is right > and what is wrong. The first sloka of Bhagawad Gita gives a clear picture. > > The sloka is as follows: > > Dhratarashtra Uvacha > "Dharmakshetre Kuruksetre samavetah yuyutsavaha > Mamakah pandavaschiva kimakurvatha sanjaya" > > This can be understood as > > Dhratarashtra says: > In the land of Dharma (he contradicts when he himself is practicing > Adharma), which belongs to the Kurus, assembled and eager (note the > terminology used - eager) to battle, Mine and Pandu sons (Here, he > differentiates between his and his brother's sons. Pandu is his brother and > Pandu's sons are naturally like his sons. He is so much fond of his son, > that he starts differentiating, and which eventually led to the Great War), > are doing, Sanjaya > > Let us consider Jupiter's position in 11th for all ascendants. > > Aries: Jupiter as lord of 9th and 12th is Benefic. If placed in 11th, he > will be in the house of Saturn. He will be good and be a philanthropic. > > Taurus: Jupiter as lord of 8th and 11th is Malefic. As lord of the 11th, in > the 11th, he will become very greedy, but financially will be well off. > > Gemini: Jupiter as lord of 7th and 10th will be a kendradhipathi. His > presence in 11th will land him in a friend's house. The native will not be > well off, but will undertake good deeds. > > Cancer: Jupiter as lord of 6th and 9th becomes neutral. In 11th, he will be > in the house of Venus, his enemy and not do much good. The native could have > more enemies and debt. If influenced by Mars, can produce Yoga. > > Leo: Jupiter as lord of 5th and 8th becomes malefic. Jupiter in the 11th > will land him in Mercury's house. The native will have uneven income and > will be fond of pleasures. > > Virgo: Jupiter as the lord of 4th and 7th will become kendradhipathi. In > 11th, he will be in house of the Moon. The person will be God- fearing and > will undertake charitable deeds. Moon in 2nd house can give rise to Yoga. > > Libra: Jupiter as the lord of 3rd and 6th will become malefic. In 11th, he > will increase debts and enemies. He will be first born and will be easily > offended. > > Scorpio: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 5th is the best benefic. His > presence in 11th will give rise to Yoga. He will make the native ambitious. > > Sagittarius: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 4th lord, in 11th will make the > person highly ambitious, open-minded and unassuming. > > Capricorn: Jupiter as the 3rd and 12th lord makes him a malefic. In 11th, > the native will be Casanova. He is usually unhappy. Presence of Mars in 11th > will not result in Yoga. > > Aquarius: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 11th is malefic. In 11th, he will > give rise to Yoga and make the native rich and influential. The native will > also involve in inappropriate acts. > > Pisces: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 10th lord in 11th will make the native > greedy and jealous. > > Hope this helps. > > Om Tat Sat, > > Raman Suprajarama > > > > > > nameisego [nameisego] > Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:26 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th > placed jupiter fellows? > > > > > Hello, > Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born. > Keeping company of saints for people with 11th > house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi > observation. > > 11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN > or MEN and tends to make you look beyond > the fence of Marital boundry. > > Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father) > might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father > might be the only son or last son and may have better share of > ancestral property than other siblings. > So it is better not to leave the side of father. > > Saint part escapes comprehension of self. > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > vedic astrology, "sushmita34" > <sushmita34> wrote: > > > > Hi Rahul, > > After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would > > surely love to see the reply by experts on this. > > I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I correct, > > experts kindly guide. > > > > Regards, > > Sushmita > > > > vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday" > > <rahul_10uday> wrote: > > > > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far > they > > > are true? > > > > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such > > people > > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with > > them > > > since their past birth. > > > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from > > Saints, > > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life. > > > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your > > father > > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, > > even > > > the Devil > > > > > > Rahul > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Om Namo Narayanaya, Guru in 11th house will make a person just, principled and honoured, unless afflicted of course. His aspect on 5th house is good, so there is no way that his judgement will be limited. There is a problem howerer particularly for female charts where guru rules 9th house of kaal purush and is placed in natural badhak sthan creating obstacles with childbirth. If you don't mind, I will add some words, though I prefer not to give general effects of planets in bhavas, which stand to change in each chart. Let us consider Jupiter's position in 11th for all ascendants.Aries: Jupiter as lord of 9th and 12th is Benefic. If placed in 11th, hewill be in the house of Saturn. He will be good and be a philanthropic. Badhak sthan, female born will have child-related problems. After a child birth a possible divorce, unless guru is placed in own/exalted navamsa.. What do you think way? Taurus: Jupiter as lord of 8th and 11th is Malefic. As lord of the 11th, inthe 11th, he will become very greedy, but financially will be well off. Financially, just enough not well off. Finance are given by position of Saturn and Mercury. Also Venus in 2nd house along with Jupiter in 11th for Taurus natives will give wealth. If venus is placed in 5th/11th houses a great spiritual potentials are seen. If venus is placed in 9th/or 3rd house a person may attain name and fame. Gemini: Jupiter as lord of 7th and 10th will be a kendradhipathi. Hispresence in 11th will land him in a friend's house. The native will not bewell off, but will undertake good deeds. Rewards and titles can be obtained abroad, while mercury in 3rd and 9th promotes status and in 5th gives spiritual aptitude. If venus is in 11th, marital bliss will be lacking. Finance will be excellent only if mars is in 11th too, and mercury in 4th. In this manner you should think, and apply all other principles to see the real impact of guru for all lagnas Best wishes Zoran Cancer: Jupiter as lord of 6th and 9th becomes neutral. In 11th, he will bein the house of Venus, his enemy and not do much good. The native could havemore enemies and debt. If influenced by Mars, can produce Yoga. Leo: Jupiter as lord of 5th and 8th becomes malefic. Jupiter in the 11thwill land him in Mercury's house. The native will have uneven income andwill be fond of pleasures.Virgo: Jupiter as the lord of 4th and 7th will become kendradhipathi. In11th, he will be in house of the Moon. The person will be God-fearing andwill undertake charitable deeds. Moon in 2nd house can give rise to Yoga.Libra: Jupiter as the lord of 3rd and 6th will become malefic. In 11th, hewill increase debts and enemies. He will be first born and will be easilyoffended.Scorpio: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 5th is the best benefic. Hispresence in 11th will give rise to Yoga. He will make the native ambitious.Sagittarius: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 4th lord, in 11th will make theperson highly ambitious, open-minded and unassuming.Capricorn: Jupiter as the 3rd and 12th lord makes him a malefic. In 11th,t he native will be Casanova. He is usually unhappy. Presence of Mars in 11thwill not result in Yoga.Aquarius: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 11th is malefic. In 11th, he willgive rise to Yoga and make the native rich and influential. The native willalso involve in inappropriate acts.Pisces: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 10th lord in 11th will make the nativegreedy and jealous.Hope this helps.Om Tat Sat,Raman Suprajaramanameisego [nameisego ] Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:26 PMTo: vedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11thplaced jupiter fellows?Hello,Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first bo rn.Keeping company of saints for people with 11thhouse placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi observation.11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN or MEN and tends to make you look beyond the fence of Marital boundry.Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father) might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father might be the only son or last son and may have better share of ancestral property than other siblings.So it is better not to leave the side of father.Saint part escapes comprehension of self.Tatvam-Asivedic astrology, "sushmita34" <sushmita34> wrote: Hi Rahul,After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would surely love to see the reply by experts on this. I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I correct, experts kindly guide.Regards,Sushmita--- In vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday" <rahul_10uday> wrote: I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far they are true?#If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such people are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with them since their past birth. #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from Saints, as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life. #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your father and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, even the DevilRahul Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Groups Links ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Companion Toolbar.Now with Pop-Up Blocker. 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Guest guest Posted October 19, 2004 Report Share Posted October 19, 2004 Dear Nameisego, Namasthe! I have my own reservations with reference to the principle of "Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva". In my humble experience, I have found Jupiter to cause damage when it is a malefic/ill-placed and not always. The dictum "Devejyo Gnanasukhado" indicates that Jupiter confers Knowledge and Happiness. Another dictum to second this is as follows: "Devaacharyah Soukyavignaanasarah". Jupiter in the 11th, if afflicted, will definitely make him greedy and jealous. I would want to take a look at the horoscopes that you have (with Jupiter in 11th). Can you kindly give the chart details? Om Tat Sat, Raman Suprajarama nameisego [nameisego] Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:10 AM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th placed jupiter fellows? Hello Sri Raman , Please understand that NO RULE IN ASTROLOGY IS WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS. Self has posted a lot on Jupiter which you might have had a chance to read. Principle of Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva.... has been found by self as holding true in majority of cases. Thus Guru destroys(To a larger or smaller extent) the bhava where he sits. Self is of opinion that Guru acts (as white ant destoying the inner wood) and any other bad period/dasa etc cracks and destroys the Bhava indication. Thus Guru weakens any bhava where he sits to such an extent that that bhava indications suffer. Coming to question of Guru,yes you are absolutely right. Guru in 11th makes a person a perfact opportunist and this Guru may make him not to let any opportunity just GO ....even if that is something like jumping the boundry of Morality. Self knows cases with 11th Guru people who look very SADHU and pious. But at the first given opportunity, they do not mind cheating their spouses. Due to reasons their birth data is not posted here. Tatvam-Asi vedic astrology, "Raman Suprajarama" <cru115@n...> wrote: > > Namasthe! > > I don't feel Jupiter in 11th will make one first born. With regard to > saints, I don't think it is true. > > One aspect of Jupiter is to make a person greedy and blindfolded > (temporarily). In a chart where Jupiter is in 11th or 5th, the native will > become jealous and loses the ability to judge between right and wrong. This > however is applicable, if Jupiter is malefic. > > The native can be compared to Dhratharashtra (in Mahabharatha). > Dhratharashtra will become so fond of his son that he forgets what is right > and what is wrong. The first sloka of Bhagawad Gita gives a clear picture. > > The sloka is as follows: > > Dhratarashtra Uvacha > "Dharmakshetre Kuruksetre samavetah yuyutsavaha > Mamakah pandavaschiva kimakurvatha sanjaya" > > This can be understood as > > Dhratarashtra says: > In the land of Dharma (he contradicts when he himself is practicing > Adharma), which belongs to the Kurus, assembled and eager (note the > terminology used - eager) to battle, Mine and Pandu sons (Here, he > differentiates between his and his brother's sons. Pandu is his brother and > Pandu's sons are naturally like his sons. He is so much fond of his son, > that he starts differentiating, and which eventually led to the Great War), > are doing, Sanjaya > > Let us consider Jupiter's position in 11th for all ascendants. > > Aries: Jupiter as lord of 9th and 12th is Benefic. If placed in 11th, he > will be in the house of Saturn. He will be good and be a philanthropic. > > Taurus: Jupiter as lord of 8th and 11th is Malefic. As lord of the 11th, in > the 11th, he will become very greedy, but financially will be well off. > > Gemini: Jupiter as lord of 7th and 10th will be a kendradhipathi. His > presence in 11th will land him in a friend's house. The native will not be > well off, but will undertake good deeds. > > Cancer: Jupiter as lord of 6th and 9th becomes neutral. In 11th, he will be > in the house of Venus, his enemy and not do much good. The native could have > more enemies and debt. If influenced by Mars, can produce Yoga. > > Leo: Jupiter as lord of 5th and 8th becomes malefic. Jupiter in the 11th > will land him in Mercury's house. The native will have uneven income and > will be fond of pleasures. > > Virgo: Jupiter as the lord of 4th and 7th will become kendradhipathi. In > 11th, he will be in house of the Moon. The person will be God- fearing and > will undertake charitable deeds. Moon in 2nd house can give rise to Yoga. > > Libra: Jupiter as the lord of 3rd and 6th will become malefic. In 11th, he > will increase debts and enemies. He will be first born and will be easily > offended. > > Scorpio: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 5th is the best benefic. His > presence in 11th will give rise to Yoga. He will make the native ambitious. > > Sagittarius: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 4th lord, in 11th will make the > person highly ambitious, open-minded and unassuming. > > Capricorn: Jupiter as the 3rd and 12th lord makes him a malefic. In 11th, > the native will be Casanova. He is usually unhappy. Presence of Mars in 11th > will not result in Yoga. > > Aquarius: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 11th is malefic. In 11th, he will > give rise to Yoga and make the native rich and influential. The native will > also involve in inappropriate acts. > > Pisces: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 10th lord in 11th will make the native > greedy and jealous. > > Hope this helps. > > Om Tat Sat, > > Raman Suprajarama > > > > > > nameisego [nameisego] > Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:26 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th > placed jupiter fellows? > > > > > Hello, > Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born. > Keeping company of saints for people with 11th > house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi > observation. > > 11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN > or MEN and tends to make you look beyond > the fence of Marital boundry. > > Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father) > might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father > might be the only son or last son and may have better share of > ancestral property than other siblings. > So it is better not to leave the side of father. > > Saint part escapes comprehension of self. > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > vedic astrology, "sushmita34" > <sushmita34> wrote: > > > > Hi Rahul, > > After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would > > surely love to see the reply by experts on this. > > I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I correct, > > experts kindly guide. > > > > Regards, > > Sushmita > > > > vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday" > > <rahul_10uday> wrote: > > > > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far > they > > > are true? > > > > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such > > people > > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with > > them > > > since their past birth. > > > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from > > Saints, > > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life. > > > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your > > father > > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, > > even > > > the Devil > > > > > > Rahul > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Dear All, I have got Jupiter in 11th Place Aquarius (DOB:29 August 1974 Place Saint Stefens Hospital, Delhi, India Time 10:20 PM IST). Does Jupiter in 11th House gives twin child? Regards, (Sanjeev Kumar Trehan) Deputy Manager(GT) GAIL (India) Limited, Behind Vikas College, Opp. Ayaapa Temple, BHPV Post Office. Sheela Nagar, Vizag - 530 012 Tel: 91 - 891 2749768 2749769 Raman Suprajarama [cru115] Wednesday, October 20, 2004 11:07 AM vedic astrology RE: [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th placed jupiter fellows? Dear Nameisego, Namasthe! I have my own reservations with reference to the principle of "Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva". In my humble experience, I have found Jupiter to cause damage when it is a malefic/ill-placed and not always. The dictum "Devejyo Gnanasukhado" indicates that Jupiter confers Knowledge and Happiness. Another dictum to second this is as follows: "Devaacharyah Soukyavignaanasarah". Jupiter in the 11th, if afflicted, will definitely make him greedy and jealous. I would want to take a look at the horoscopes that you have (with Jupiter in 11th). Can you kindly give the chart details? Om Tat Sat, Raman Suprajarama nameisego [nameisego] Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:10 AM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th placed jupiter fellows? Hello Sri Raman , Please understand that NO RULE IN ASTROLOGY IS WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS. Self has posted a lot on Jupiter which you might have had a chance to read. Principle of Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva.... has been found by self as holding true in majority of cases. Thus Guru destroys(To a larger or smaller extent) the bhava where he sits. Self is of opinion that Guru acts (as white ant destoying the inner wood) and any other bad period/dasa etc cracks and destroys the Bhava indication. Thus Guru weakens any bhava where he sits to such an extent that that bhava indications suffer. Coming to question of Guru,yes you are absolutely right. Guru in 11th makes a person a perfact opportunist and this Guru may make him not to let any opportunity just GO ....even if that is something like jumping the boundry of Morality. Self knows cases with 11th Guru people who look very SADHU and pious. But at the first given opportunity, they do not mind cheating their spouses. Due to reasons their birth data is not posted here. Tatvam-Asi vedic astrology, "Raman Suprajarama" <cru115@n...> wrote: > > Namasthe! > > I don't feel Jupiter in 11th will make one first born. With regard to > saints, I don't think it is true. > > One aspect of Jupiter is to make a person greedy and blindfolded > (temporarily). In a chart where Jupiter is in 11th or 5th, the native will > become jealous and loses the ability to judge between right and wrong. This > however is applicable, if Jupiter is malefic. > > The native can be compared to Dhratharashtra (in Mahabharatha). > Dhratharashtra will become so fond of his son that he forgets what is right > and what is wrong. The first sloka of Bhagawad Gita gives a clear picture. > > The sloka is as follows: > > Dhratarashtra Uvacha > "Dharmakshetre Kuruksetre samavetah yuyutsavaha > Mamakah pandavaschiva kimakurvatha sanjaya" > > This can be understood as > > Dhratarashtra says: > In the land of Dharma (he contradicts when he himself is practicing > Adharma), which belongs to the Kurus, assembled and eager (note the > terminology used - eager) to battle, Mine and Pandu sons (Here, he > differentiates between his and his brother's sons. Pandu is his brother and > Pandu's sons are naturally like his sons. He is so much fond of his son, > that he starts differentiating, and which eventually led to the Great War), > are doing, Sanjaya > > Let us consider Jupiter's position in 11th for all ascendants. > > Aries: Jupiter as lord of 9th and 12th is Benefic. If placed in 11th, he > will be in the house of Saturn. He will be good and be a philanthropic. > > Taurus: Jupiter as lord of 8th and 11th is Malefic. As lord of the 11th, in > the 11th, he will become very greedy, but financially will be well off. > > Gemini: Jupiter as lord of 7th and 10th will be a kendradhipathi. His > presence in 11th will land him in a friend's house. The native will not be > well off, but will undertake good deeds. > > Cancer: Jupiter as lord of 6th and 9th becomes neutral. In 11th, he will be > in the house of Venus, his enemy and not do much good. The native could have > more enemies and debt. If influenced by Mars, can produce Yoga. > > Leo: Jupiter as lord of 5th and 8th becomes malefic. Jupiter in the 11th > will land him in Mercury's house. The native will have uneven income and > will be fond of pleasures. > > Virgo: Jupiter as the lord of 4th and 7th will become kendradhipathi. In > 11th, he will be in house of the Moon. The person will be God- fearing and > will undertake charitable deeds. Moon in 2nd house can give rise to Yoga. > > Libra: Jupiter as the lord of 3rd and 6th will become malefic. In 11th, he > will increase debts and enemies. He will be first born and will be easily > offended. > > Scorpio: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 5th is the best benefic. His > presence in 11th will give rise to Yoga. He will make the native ambitious. > > Sagittarius: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 4th lord, in 11th will make the > person highly ambitious, open-minded and unassuming. > > Capricorn: Jupiter as the 3rd and 12th lord makes him a malefic. In 11th, > the native will be Casanova. He is usually unhappy. Presence of Mars in 11th > will not result in Yoga. > > Aquarius: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 11th is malefic. In 11th, he will > give rise to Yoga and make the native rich and influential. The native will > also involve in inappropriate acts. > > Pisces: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 10th lord in 11th will make the native > greedy and jealous. > > Hope this helps. > > Om Tat Sat, > > Raman Suprajarama > > > > > > nameisego [nameisego] > Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:26 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th > placed jupiter fellows? > > > > > Hello, > Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born. > Keeping company of saints for people with 11th > house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi > observation. > > 11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN > or MEN and tends to make you look beyond > the fence of Marital boundry. > > Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father) > might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father > might be the only son or last son and may have better share of > ancestral property than other siblings. > So it is better not to leave the side of father. > > Saint part escapes comprehension of self. > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > vedic astrology, "sushmita34" > <sushmita34> wrote: > > > > Hi Rahul, > > After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would > > surely love to see the reply by experts on this. > > I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I correct, > > experts kindly guide. > > > > Regards, > > Sushmita > > > > vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday" > > <rahul_10uday> wrote: > > > > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far > they > > > are true? > > > > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such > > people > > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been with > > them > > > since their past birth. > > > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from > > Saints, > > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life. > > > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your > > father > > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, > > even > > > the Devil > > > > > > Rahul > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 I found the followings is absolute true(infact there are other conditions also): " Guru in 11th makes a person a perfact opportunist and this Guru may make him not to let any opportunity just GO ....even if that is something like jumping the boundry of Morality. " regards, poolaat vedic astrology, "Raman Suprajarama" <cru115@n...> wrote: > Dear Nameisego, > > Namasthe! > > I have my own reservations with reference to the principle of "Bhava Nasha > Karo Jeeva". In my humble experience, I have found Jupiter to cause damage > when it is a malefic/ill-placed and not always. > > The dictum "Devejyo Gnanasukhado" indicates that Jupiter confers Knowledge > and Happiness. Another dictum to second this is as follows: "Devaacharyah > Soukyavignaanasarah". > > Jupiter in the 11th, if afflicted, will definitely make him greedy and > jealous. I would want to take a look at the horoscopes that you have (with > Jupiter in 11th). Can you kindly give the chart details? > > Om Tat Sat, > > Raman Suprajarama > > > nameisego [nameisego] > Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:10 AM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for 11th > placed jupiter fellows? > > > > > Hello Sri Raman , > > Please understand that NO RULE IN ASTROLOGY IS WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS. > Self has posted a lot on Jupiter which you might have had a chance to > read. > > Principle of Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva.... > has been found by self as holding true in majority of cases. > Thus Guru destroys(To a larger or smaller extent) the bhava where he > sits. > Self is of opinion that Guru acts (as white ant destoying the inner > wood) and any other bad period/dasa etc cracks and destroys the Bhava > indication. > Thus Guru weakens any bhava where he sits to such an extent that that > bhava indications suffer. > Coming to question of Guru,yes you are absolutely right. > Guru in 11th makes a person a perfact opportunist and this Guru may > make him not to let any opportunity just GO ....even if that is > something like jumping the boundry of Morality. > Self knows cases with 11th Guru people who look very SADHU and pious. > But at the first given opportunity, they do not mind cheating their > spouses. > Due to reasons their birth data is not posted here. > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > vedic astrology, "Raman Suprajarama" > <cru115@n...> wrote: > > > > Namasthe! > > > > I don't feel Jupiter in 11th will make one first born. With regard > to > > saints, I don't think it is true. > > > > One aspect of Jupiter is to make a person greedy and blindfolded > > (temporarily). In a chart where Jupiter is in 11th or 5th, the > native will > > become jealous and loses the ability to judge between right and > wrong. This > > however is applicable, if Jupiter is malefic. > > > > The native can be compared to Dhratharashtra (in Mahabharatha). > > Dhratharashtra will become so fond of his son that he forgets what > is right > > and what is wrong. The first sloka of Bhagawad Gita gives a clear > picture. > > > > The sloka is as follows: > > > > Dhratarashtra Uvacha > > "Dharmakshetre Kuruksetre samavetah yuyutsavaha > > Mamakah pandavaschiva kimakurvatha sanjaya" > > > > This can be understood as > > > > Dhratarashtra says: > > In the land of Dharma (he contradicts when he himself is practicing > > Adharma), which belongs to the Kurus, assembled and eager (note the > > terminology used - eager) to battle, Mine and Pandu sons (Here, he > > differentiates between his and his brother's sons. Pandu is his > brother and > > Pandu's sons are naturally like his sons. He is so much fond of his > son, > > that he starts differentiating, and which eventually led to the > Great War), > > are doing, Sanjaya > > > > Let us consider Jupiter's position in 11th for all ascendants. > > > > Aries: Jupiter as lord of 9th and 12th is Benefic. If placed in > 11th, he > > will be in the house of Saturn. He will be good and be a > philanthropic. > > > > Taurus: Jupiter as lord of 8th and 11th is Malefic. As lord of the > 11th, in > > the 11th, he will become very greedy, but financially will be well > off. > > > > Gemini: Jupiter as lord of 7th and 10th will be a kendradhipathi. > His > > presence in 11th will land him in a friend's house. The native will > not be > > well off, but will undertake good deeds. > > > > Cancer: Jupiter as lord of 6th and 9th becomes neutral. In 11th, he > will be > > in the house of Venus, his enemy and not do much good. The native > could have > > more enemies and debt. If influenced by Mars, can produce Yoga. > > > > Leo: Jupiter as lord of 5th and 8th becomes malefic. Jupiter in the > 11th > > will land him in Mercury's house. The native will have uneven > income and > > will be fond of pleasures. > > > > Virgo: Jupiter as the lord of 4th and 7th will become > kendradhipathi. In > > 11th, he will be in house of the Moon. The person will be God- > fearing and > > will undertake charitable deeds. Moon in 2nd house can give rise to > Yoga. > > > > Libra: Jupiter as the lord of 3rd and 6th will become malefic. In > 11th, he > > will increase debts and enemies. He will be first born and will be > easily > > offended. > > > > Scorpio: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 5th is the best benefic. His > > presence in 11th will give rise to Yoga. He will make the native > ambitious. > > > > Sagittarius: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 4th lord, in 11th will > make the > > person highly ambitious, open-minded and unassuming. > > > > Capricorn: Jupiter as the 3rd and 12th lord makes him a malefic. In > 11th, > > the native will be Casanova. He is usually unhappy. Presence of > Mars in 11th > > will not result in Yoga. > > > > Aquarius: Jupiter as the lord of 2nd and 11th is malefic. In 11th, > he will > > give rise to Yoga and make the native rich and influential. The > native will > > also involve in inappropriate acts. > > > > Pisces: Jupiter as Lagnadhipathi and 10th lord in 11th will make > the native > > greedy and jealous. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Om Tat Sat, > > > > Raman Suprajarama > > > > > > > > > > > > nameisego [nameisego] > > Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:26 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: visiting saints bring hardtimes for > 11th > > placed jupiter fellows? > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > Jupiter in 11th will generally make you first born. > > Keeping company of saints for people with 11th > > house placement of Jupiter bringing poverty seems like a Nadi > > observation. > > > > 11th Jupiter tends to give you interest in OTHER WOMEN > > or MEN and tends to make you look beyond > > the fence of Marital boundry. > > > > Being with father bringing you happiness (Inheritance from father) > > might be due to the fact that 11th is 3rd from 9th. Hence father > > might be the only son or last son and may have better share of > > ancestral property than other siblings. > > So it is better not to leave the side of father. > > > > Saint part escapes comprehension of self. > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "sushmita34" > > <sushmita34> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Rahul, > > > After a long time someone has posted an interesting query, would > > > surely love to see the reply by experts on this. > > > I thought Jup in 11th house was good for financials, am I > correct, > > > experts kindly guide. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Sushmita > > > > > > vedic astrology, "rahul_10uday" > > > <rahul_10uday> wrote: > > > > > > > > I saw the following abt 11th placed jup in a website,how far > > they > > > > are true? > > > > > > > > #If anyone has an 11th placed Jupiter, The blessings of such > > > people > > > > are more auspicious than any saint, as the ability has been > with > > > them > > > > since their past birth. > > > > > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, keep yourself away from > > > Saints, > > > > as it will bring poverty and hard times into your life. > > > > > > > > #If you have an 11th placed Jupiter, take the guidance of your > > > father > > > > and be with your father. You will escape harm from all enemies, > > > even > > > > the Devil > > > > > > > > Rahul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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