Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 Dear Chandrashekharji, Thanks for the illustrious explanation of the meaning of "Bhagiratha Prayatna". Yes i am aware that Holiness Dalai Lama does the puja once a year but I was under the impression it being different from predictive aspect of the Kalachakra Dasa system, from what you have described I feel it is best to stay away from this & also the Y Dasa system, although most astrologers swear by the accuracy of this system. Sanjayji had described the bad effects of the Y Dasa system if not practiced with Kavacha when I met him in Nagpur. On astrological thinking I presume using the Kalachakra Dasa system is not recommended as it changes drastically when time of birth is altered little bit and most of the times charts do not have accurate time of birth. Happy the friend was wise and did a good thing to me secretly by not pasing on the above. best SJ Dear Sunil,"Bhagiratha Prayatna" refers to the efforts taken by King Bhagiratha, a descendant of King Sagar to bring River Ganga to the Bharatavarsha for purification of the ashes of his ancestors. Flow of Ganga could not be borne by Earth and he had to request Lord Shiva to receive her first on his head. Then Ganga caused destruction of the Ashram of Rishi Janhu by her devastating flow.Rishi Janhu was angry and drank her and only after Bhagiratha pleaded with him, she was released through his ear, this is why she is also reffered to as "Jaanhavi". Many more difficulties were removed by King Bhagiratha till he could bring Ganga to Bharata. Thus when tremendous efforts are necessary to achieve an objective, it is referred to as "Bhagiratha Prayatna".Kalachakra in Tibetan mysticism refers to the Kalachakra which forms an advanced part of Tantra. If you remember only Dalai Lama conducts the Puja of Kalachakra and that too only once in an year. There is another eight lotus Kala-Chakra, above which are seven heavens and below are the Sapta (seven) Patalas (Hells). This has a connection with Yoginis and one not initiated in Tantra and having guidance of a realized Guru, should not attempt his hand at it. It is not possible to close the doors of hells if unintentionally opened. Only Lord Shiva has control over it. Perhaps this is why your friend does not want to reveal them to you. Better stay away from them. Chandrashekhar.Sunil John wrote: Dear Chandrashekharji,Is the Kalachakra dasa system as practised now in popular astrology similar to the predictive Kalachakra Dasa system as practiced by the lamas. Kindly throw some light, I had met an indian who seems to have procured very rare texts on Kalachakra Dasa system of prediction from the lamas after lot of persuasion but even after lot of insistence from my part he wouldn't give out the texts, he said i need to grow older for that, I have forgotten his comments mostly but little i recollect is that he said it is superior to what most astrologers currently know of the Kalachakra Dasa system. He also seem to have indicated that this system is very much indian and during invasion of india, it got travelled into Afghanistan to Tibet through the traveling buddhist monks. Chandukaka or Mr. Dhananjayan can you kindly explain the meaning of "Bhagiratha-prayathna" Best wishes Sunil Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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