Guest guest Posted October 7, 2004 Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 ` nmae naray[ay, om namo näräyaëäya| Dear Jayashree Ji, You are most welcome. With Shri Hari Vaayu Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. Jayashree <Jayashree_Ravi (AT) mail (DOT) com> wrote: Dear gurujis,Thank you so much for taking your time to answer my question. Over the weekend I will send each of you my thank you note, with any questions or feedback since I do not want to clog up the space too much. Thank-you all again.Kind regards,Jaya--- In vedic astrology, Ramadas Rao wrote:> > ` nmae naray[ay,> > om namo näräyaëäya|> > Dear Jayashree Ji,> > If the Lagna has to change to Makara,then your birth time has to be 13:21:14 Hrs.Your reported time of birth is 14:32 Hrs.which I find to be almost accurate and as per that I get Kumbha Lagna 18 Deg.14'2.64" using Sun rise options : The centre of Sun's disc is truly on eastern horizon ".You are born in Akasha Tattwa- Vaayu Antara Tattwa.I am giving here the qualities of native born in these 2 tattvas. Now Akasha tattwa is ruled by Guru and indicates male Tattwa.The characters are joy,delight,happiness,satisfaction,faith in good periods,generosity,growth,fear of apprehension etc.Have good ideals in life and if Guru afflicted,depression and dissipating energy are the results.Normally Akasha tattwa natives have self confidence,reliance,menatl and physical strength.Philosophy,finace, law and writings suits them.Persons with divine strength,persons who do not know secret dealings,friendly persons are born in this tattwa.> > Now Vaayu Antara Tattwa is female ruled by Shani.The qualities are best thinking,meditation,steadiness,patience and hard work,practical,grasp anything quickly,not tolerate untruth and ingratitude.research,geology,philosophy suits them.> > Now here I will give you a new concept called Rahu Centric Theory.Now we know that Rahu/Ketu are Karmic planets.Our complete is within Rahu/Ketu axis.Rahu is Maaya and illusion and hence give us a desire in our mind based on our Poorva Karmas.So in this life we try to achieve that aim/goal and finally we end in nothing,everything is swallowed into Kaala who is nothing but Rahu himself.Ketu is Moksha Karaka and Moksha is decided by Ketu depending on our good Karmas in our life.Now Rahu is also Yoni Mukha and it is Rahu who makes the attraction between man and woman and finally gives a wedding knot.Now we know that when a woman delivers a child,the Yoni will get expanded almost 3 times of its size.Also Rahu is Sarpa and when it catches a prey,it widens its mouth almost 3 times of its size.So it means the houses next and 12th to Rahu are posioned by malefic planets,then problems in married life can be seen.Now Rahu likes to be in 4th house as Rahu rules over Chidras ie., openings in the> upper parts of our body ie., eyes,nose,mouth,ears.So keeping Rahu in 4th house let us go back to 4 houses and in your chart it is Tula is Yoni Badha Lagna or YBL.Now we know 5th is Putra Shana and it is afflicted by Kuja as he is in 2nd to Rahu.9th is house of delivery and its lord Budha is in YBL Tula along with debilitated Surya.But YBL lord Shukra is in 2nd with Guru and this is really a boon in your chart.This Guru aspects the 5th lord Shani (V) considered from YBL,so you will be blessed with Putra Sukha.> > Now at the moment ,you are running Ketu-Guru- Budha from 20/09/2004 to 07/11/2004.As Budha is 9th lord from YBL who is in Lagna and is with Surya debilitated,there may be some problems during delivery time.As Kuja is in trine to Budha, there may be possibility of surgery.Now transit Guru which is in Kanya aspects Chandra,the 10th lord from YBL, Rahu and Shani (V),the 5th lord from YBL,by the grace of God, all the problems will be solved and you will be blessed with a female child.Here my opinion is Shani (V) is the lord of 5th from YBL is in Rohini Nakshatra ruled by Chandra who is placed in Meena rashi, an even sign indicate a female child.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > Jayashree wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekar ji,> > That is so interesting, I have never so far come across a situation > whereby my lagna was suggested differently. Yes, that is the accurate > co-ordinates for Madras, India. But I get 18 degrees odd of Aquarius > using the co-ordinates for the time of 2:32 PM. Please let me know if > the Capricorn lagna is definite. Chandrashekarji, to address the > other part regarding chart-reading based on single planets, I think > it is a disgrace that such an approach was used in this forum in > front of such learned members as yourself, Shri Narasimha Rao ji, > Shri Ramadas Rao ji, Tatvam-Asi ji and so forth. (Please excuse my > fun-making here, but I think if this is right, then the single > placement of Guru Bhagwan alone in my chart, is capable of making me > eligible for 'moksha' candidacy since he is such a divine planet ;-)) > > Please let me know regarding the lagna when your time permits. It is > so nice of you to take an interest in seeing my chart. Thank-you so > much for the same.> > Kind regards,> > Jayashree> > > --- In vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar > wrote:> > Dear Jayashree,> > May I know what co-ordinates you are using for Chennai? If 80E17 > 13N05 > > are used your Rahu comes to Lagna in Capricorn 27.46.49. Are you > certain > > your horoscope haas Rahu in 12th? Am I making some mistake in the > data?> > New version of JHHora lite appears to have Center of Sin's disc on > > Eastern horizon as default, though personally I like tip of Sun's > disc > > truly on Eastern horizon. Even so the Lagna is not likely to change > by > > about 2.5 degrees in that time.> > Would you confirm whether the chart is right? I am attaching it for > your > > ready reference in JHD format. Of course, personally, I do not > think > > everyone with Rahu in 12th would have all bad habits, since much > would > > depend on Rasi occupied and planets conjunct as well as strength of > > Lagna.I have seen many with a very pious life with that position of > > Rahu. The mail is not in that context.> > Chandrashekhar.> > > > Jayashree wrote:> > > > >> > > Dear Shri Vishwanatham,> > >> > > Apologies for a delayed response again. I'm into my 8th month of> > > pregnancy and I'm kind-of panicked and terrified by the > predictions> > > for Rahu in 12. I'm brought up in a somewhat traditional family > and> > > also I have a tendency to worry a lot. Also at work for the past > 1> > > month, there's been heavy workload and worries/hassles due to > that.> > > When I read the 12th Rahu having some disastrous results, it> > > automatically put me in a 'hurt/panic' mode, afterall one of the> > > most wonderful things that have happened to me is my hubby and my> > > beautiful child (soon going to be 2 of them in 1 more month). They> > > are important to me more than my life. If you can give your views > on> > > what my 12th house Rahu signifies in my chart, that would be great> > > help to me. I think god is always with me to protect me, but I > want> > > to hear a Jyotishi's view also. I noticed my Rahu/Ketu are> > > in 'Kalinasa' sashtyamsa who is a benefic, ('kalinaasa' was> > > malefic). My dob is Oct 31st 1971, 2:32 PM, Chennai. Sorry for a> > > late reply, but I couldn't write earlier.> > >> > > Thanks,> > >> > > Jayashree> > > vedic astrology, "vishwanatham"> > > wrote:> > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > >> > > > Dear Jayashree,> > > >> > > > You have always been nice to people on this group. i was only> > > saying> > > > what you had said, i.e., Rahu in 12th alone is not sufficient > and> > > as> > > > always with any dictum is influenced by several other factors!> > > >> > > > Can you post your birth details to see why you feel so.> > > >> > > > Thanks for your mail.> > > >> > > > regards> > > > viswanadham> > > >> > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Jayashree"> > > > wrote:> > > > > Vishwanatham ji,> > > > >> > > > > I'm sorry for a very delayed response. I guess the suggestion > to> > > > > check the sashtyamsa was hinted at me. I have to admit I'm no> > > > > jyotishi but a (self-taught) learner, the reason I keep quiet> > > > without> > > > > participating much most of the time.It just so happened that > in> > > > this> > > > > thread, having been a person of lofty ideals and strong> > > > moral/ethical> > > > > values all through my life, there was sudden insurgency of a> > > strong> > > > > impulse to speak up against what I felt was wrong/incorrect,> > > > atleast> > > > > in my case. Since every time I speak up, I immediately run > into> > > a> > > > > mentally drained/exhausted and introspective state of > analyzing> > > the> > > > > pros and cons of speaking up thus. I think "not to speak up" > is> > > > > ultimately the right thing to do afterall, and because of this> > > > > reason, I have decided not even to visit this forum for a long> > > > while> > > > > to come. For example, I have seen O'Reilly shows where he has> > > > > commented negatively on the atmosphere at India, and Hinduism> > > > > adversely for so many times. While each time I do feel the > same> > > > > impulse to speak up against it, I ultimately keep quiet since > I> > > > > cannot do anything. I once sent a long write-up protesting> > > against> > > > a> > > > > column in Boston Globe Sunday article against Engineers from> > > India,> > > > > but that never showed up anywhere for some reason :-(. Well, I> > > > guess> > > > > that's me and its time to change afterall.> > > > >> > > > > I apologize for this non-astrological message.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > >> > > > > Jayashree> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > vedic astrology, "vishwanatham"> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > >> > > > > > Please have a look at the shashtiamsa of the planet to see> > > what> > > > > kind> > > > > > of karma the planet is carrying from the past life. That> > > requires> > > > > > some amount of BT accuracy. So we need to pause....> > > > > >> > > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards> > > > > > viswanadham> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > vedic astrology, "Jayashree"> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > Mukundji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I wasn't trying to prove anything. I was rather trying> > > > > > to "disprove"> > > > > > > what your statement "tried to prove" w.r.t Rahu's > placement> > > in> > > > > 12th> > > > > > > house for the entire populace that comes under its > umbrella.> > > > And> > > > > I> > > > > > am> > > > > > > justified in having proven my salt's worth for whatever > this> > > > holy> > > > > > > planet has blessed me with, for being a happy self.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Allowing myself a little liberty(!) so to speak, I guess> > > > > > > reciting "Manthra-Raja Pada Stothram" should greatly > benefit> > > > you,> > > > > > > since Rahu casts 2nd argala (I don't know if this is> > > obstructed> > > > > or> > > > > > > unobstructed) being placed in Mars' house and also Mars> > > aspects> > > > > > your> > > > > > > Sani. This stothram is considered the "King of all> > > stothrams".> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bye now.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Jayashree> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "monmuk111"> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > Hello Jayashree:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I've read the notes you've posted attempting to prove> > > > > that "Rahu> > > > > > is> > > > > > > > 12th" doesn't always cause bondage, sexual immorality > and> > > > > > illegaly> > > > > > > > obtained wealth.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Yes, I agree the the "Rahu in 12th" results are greatly> > > > > modified> > > > > > by> > > > > > > > the placement in a good rashi, i.e. Gemini, Virgo, > Taurus> > > and> > > > > > > Aries.> > > > > > > > I also agree that the nature of "Rahu in 12th" is > somewhat> > > > > > modified> > > > > > > > by its placement in a good nakshatra (Jupiter ruled> > > > nakshatras).> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Firstly, "Planet in house" dictum never fails.> > > > Secondly "Planet> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > Rashi" dictum never fails. These two are enough for a> > > broad-> > > > > brush> > > > > > > > prediction. Thereafter, one can apply all the high-level> > > > mumbo-> > > > > > > jumbo> > > > > > > > WHICH usually fails.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The only high-level mumbo-jumbo that I've seen give> > > > consistent> > > > > > > > results is Sanjay Rath's notes about predicting nature > of> > > > > spouse> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > the quaility of marriage based on Upapada Lagna and> > > > > > planets/rashis> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > 2nd and 12th from Upapada.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > See, in the case of Paul Macartney, he DID have to go> > > > > > > > through "bondage" like situation as his wife was> > > frequently> > > > > > > > hospitalized and he had to care for her. -- See, Rahu in> > > 12th> > > > > > > dictum> > > > > > > > didn't fail.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Swami Vivekanada's chart confuses me. I know a woman > with> > > > Rahu> > > > > in> > > > > > > > 12th in Scorpio, this woman has the worst character in > the> > > > > world--> > > > > > > she> > > > > > > > sells herself, lies, steals, does everthing that the> > > society> > > > > > frowns> > > > > > > > upon as long as her actions benefit her--she also has > Sun> > > in> > > > > > > > Mooltrikona in 9th house, but this great placement seems> > > to> > > > > have> > > > > > > been> > > > > > > > compeltely eclipsed by debilitated Rahu in 6th.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Now, don't worry about your Rahu too much--it is well-> > > > > disposited> > > > > > by> > > > > > > > the Lagna lord who again is well placed. Well, in your> > > case,> > > > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > > is in a friendly rashi in the throne who becomes a good> > > > > > protector.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have Saturn in 5th in the enemy Rashi of Pisces and> > > > evertime> > > > > I> > > > > > go> > > > > > > > through Saturn Anatara-pratyantara, my life turns upside> > > down-> > > > -> > > > > > see,> > > > > > > > the dictum about bad effects of Shani in 5th doesn't > fail> > > > here.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Mukund> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Jayashree"> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Mukundji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Consider the chart of Swami Vivekananda. His chart > comes> > > > with> > > > > > JHL> > > > > > > > > 6.0. He has debilitated Rahu in Scorpio in 12th house.> > > His> > > > > > > Sanyasa> > > > > > > > > Marga does not need my re-introduction.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Also, based on the info provided by another member,> > > > consider> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > chart of Paul McCartney. His chart has Rahu with > Gulika> > > in> > > > 12> > > > > > in> > > > > > > > Leo.> > > > > > > > > As I read his life history yesterday, I came to know > his> > > > wife> > > > > > > > fought> > > > > > > > > and eventually was given away to Breast Cancer. This I> > > > would> > > > > > > > > attribute to being indicated by Jup, McCartney's 4/7th> > > lord> > > > > > > > acquiring> > > > > > > > > Kendradipathi dosha placed in 10th house and in A7> > > > conjoining> > > > > > > Sun,> > > > > > > > > the dispositor of Rahu with Gulika in 12th house.> > > > > Nevertheless,> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > goes without further saying that his wife hasn't> > > > > > > afterall "suffered> > > > > > > > > hospitalization along with extra-marital affairs along> > > with> > > > > > > earning> > > > > > > > > money through unfair means".> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In my own chart : Oct 31 1971, 2:32 PM, Madras, Rahu > is> > > co-> > > > > lord> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > Aquarius lagna, placed in another of Sani's houses> > > thereby> > > > > > > strongly> > > > > > > > > signifying Sanidev, and placed in 6th lord (waxing)> > > Moon's> > > > > star> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > 2,> > > > > > > > > having healthy trinal relationship with dispositor and> > > > > lagnesh> > > > > > > Sani> > > > > > > > > where Sani is also placed in a friendly sign in a> > > kendra.> > > > > Also> > > > > > to> > > > > > > > be> > > > > > > > > noted that Rahu is devoid of any further malefic > aspects> > > or> > > > > > > > > associations such as Gulika or Mandi.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Best regards,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Jayashree> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "Jayashree"> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Mukundji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I don't agree with you.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > It may be a different question whether someone > ascends> > > > > > > > spiritually> > > > > > > > > > in a birth or not. However, sinful activities such > as> > > > > murder,> > > > > > > > > > adultery, cruelty to children/animals/others are the> > > > > > resultant> > > > > > > > > > of 'poorva paap'. While Rahu will assist in > unfolding> > > the> > > > > > > sinful> > > > > > > > > > deeds or poorva paap, Rahu is nevertheless 'not' the> > > > > > indicator> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > accumulated sins. Infact, no single planet can be. > It> > > > > should> > > > > > > > rather> > > > > > > > > > be indicated by the affliction to certain key-> houses.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > In the lady's chart, though Mars is well-placed as> > > lord> > > > of> > > > > > > poorva> > > > > > > > > > punya in Swa-kshetra, the presence of Mercury who is> > > > > 3rd/12th> > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > and dispositor of Rahu/Gulika/Mandi in the 5th, and> > > the> > > > > > > > affliction> > > > > > > > > > to jala-tattwa planet Venus by two fiery planets > Mars> > > and> > > > > > Sun,> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > the affliction to natural lord of intellect Budha by> > > the> > > > > same> > > > > > > > fiery> > > > > > > > > > planets in the house of intellect, along with a Sasa> > > yoga> > > > > > > caused> > > > > > > > by> > > > > > > > > > malefic Saturn on the Kalathra-Bhava show the > poorva-> > > > paap.> > > > > > Rahu> > > > > > > > has> > > > > > > > > > helped in unfolding this poorva-paap.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Rahu plays a key-role in giving materialistic fruits> > > and> > > > > > helps> > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > grow ahamkara/moha and Vanity. Where Rahu is placed > in> > > > the> > > > > > > house> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > loss, this causes a deficiency that can manifest as> > > delay> > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > fructification of the fruits of one's efforts. This > is> > > > what> > > > > a> > > > > > > > stand-> > > > > > > > > > alone Rahu is capable of producing and *nothing > more*.> > > > > Where> > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > native's chart has collective good karma, along a> > > > different> > > > > > > view,> > > > > > > > > > Rahu as in 12th house causing delays and obstacles > is> > > > > > conducive> > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > breaking lethargy and tamo-guna to work harder which> > > is> > > > > good> > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > native in the long-run.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This is my view and I do not differ wee-bit from my> > > > earlier> > > > > > > > stand.> > > > > > > > > > Though I'm not versed in Jyotish formally, my> > > instincts> > > > > tell> > > > > > me> > > > > > > > > this> > > > > > > > > > is the right answer.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Best regards,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Jayashree> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "monmuk111"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Hello Jayashree:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I remember you have Rahu in 12th and couple of === message truncated === India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. 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