Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Hello Visti: Your note says "Rahu in 3rd from AL causes sudden unnatural death." Now, I very clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's book's that "A malefic located in 3rd or 6th from AL becomes a great protector and it destroys the enemies of the native." Can you please reconcile the statement you made with the dictum given by Sanjay? (I'm in my office right now, but I can give you the name of this book and Pg.# tomorrow). Thanks. Mukund vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear dkvrao, > Using Vimshottari Dasa, always pay attention to Gulika or the Mrityu Sphuta > when timing death. Gulika is in Anuradha Nakñatra which is lorded by Saturn. > Hence Saturn Dasa will act like Gulika Dasa and can be death inflicting. > > As for Mrityu Sputa, the native is born during the night, so we add the > longitudes of Rähu and Moon and arrive at Poorva Ashada Nakñatra lorded by > Venus - this did not give death in his case. > > Now if you look at the Ärüòha Lagna in Capricorn and see the cause of death > - Rähu in 3rd from AL (sudden death, unnatural) and Saturn in 8th from AL > (disease, sorrow, etc) are competing to kill the native. > > Saturn won, and is placed in Leo indicating heart disease and hence Saturn > Dasa. Saturn is lording Ärüòha Lagna and is placed in the 8th there from, > hence he performed an action which was risk-taking. Jupiter and Venus in > Ärüòha lagna sees Saturn, hence he and his family knew about the risk he was > taking but he took it anyway. > > Best wishes, > Visti Larsen > visti@s... > > > > > > rao vasudevadk [dkv_rao] > 25 June 2004 13:12 > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] which planet has inflicted death????? > > SRI RAMA RAMA RAMAETI > ---------------------- > Dear List, > > I am giving birth/death details of a well noted person > in the Banking Circle both in the State of Andhra > Pradesh and as well in India. The native was well > educated, a Bank employee, became a union leader of > the largest Bank, step by step grown to become state > leader and represented national bank employees for > over 4 years. He was a good orator, some times witty > and some times aggressive, have a charisma of > attracting crowd, collapsed on 20.06.2004 at around > 3.00 pm while delivering yet a forceful speech among a > large gathering of Bank employees. The death was > sudden. > > Brief details of the native : An average height of > 56, not so dark complexion, father died at small > age, mother still alive, have two children, one male > and one female, both settled well, not earned much > except owning an apartment at Hyderabad, a diabetic, a > foot ball player. > > Birth > DOB 22.12.1949 TOB 02.06 a.m Longitude 80E2 Latitude > 14N17 5.30 East of GMT > Death > 20.06.2004 at around 3.00 p.m > > For academic knowledge, can any one analyse which > planet has inflicted death to the above native? > > Is it Yogakaraka Saturn, or Lagna Lord Venus(for > having 8th lord-ship) or Transit of Rahu in7th from > Lagna having aspect of 2nd/7th lord Mars in birth > Chart. Can Lagna Lord become a Maraka? Please clarify > my doubts. > > With regards > dkvrao > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Dear Mukund 3rd from AL also denotes sorroundings about death. this is another aspect of 3rd from AL. Malefics there can give unnatural or painful death to a person. At the same time the malefics in 3/6th from AL makes one bold where as benefics there makes one coward. You will find gurudeva Sanjayji explaining this in example of chart of Gandhi in one of his Books. Lakshman --- monmuk111 <monmuk111 wrote: > Hello Visti: > > Your note says "Rahu in 3rd from AL causes sudden > unnatural death." > > Now, I very clearly remember reading in one of > Sanjay's book's > that "A malefic located in 3rd or 6th from AL > becomes a great > protector and it destroys the enemies of the > native." > > Can you please reconcile the statement you made with > the dictum given > by Sanjay? (I'm in my office right now, but I can > give you the name > of this book and Pg.# tomorrow). > > Thanks. > Mukund > > vedic astrology, "Visti > Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear dkvrao, > > Using Vimshottari Dasa, always pay attention to > Gulika or the > Mrityu Sphuta > > when timing death. Gulika is in Anuradha Nakñatra > which is lorded > by Saturn. > > Hence Saturn Dasa will act like Gulika Dasa and > can be death > inflicting. > > > > As for Mrityu Sputa, the native is born during the > night, so we add > the > > longitudes of Rähu and Moon and arrive at Poorva > Ashada Nakñatra > lorded by > > Venus - this did not give death in his case. > > > > Now if you look at the Ärüòha Lagna in Capricorn > and see the cause > of death > > - Rähu in 3rd from AL (sudden death, unnatural) > and Saturn in 8th > from AL > > (disease, sorrow, etc) are competing to kill the > native. > > > > Saturn won, and is placed in Leo indicating heart > disease and hence > Saturn > > Dasa. Saturn is lording Ärüòha Lagna and is placed > in the 8th there > from, > > hence he performed an action which was > risk-taking. Jupiter and > Venus in > > Ärüòha lagna sees Saturn, hence he and his family > knew about the > risk he was > > taking but he took it anyway. > > > > Best wishes, > > Visti Larsen > > visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > rao vasudevadk [dkv_rao] > > 25 June 2004 13:12 > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] which planet has > inflicted death????? > > > > SRI RAMA RAMA RAMAETI > > ---------------------- > > Dear List, > > > > I am giving birth/death details of a well noted > person > > in the Banking Circle both in the State of Andhra > > Pradesh and as well in India. The native was well > > educated, a Bank employee, became a union leader > of > > the largest Bank, step by step grown to become > state > > leader and represented national bank employees for > > over 4 years. He was a good orator, some times > witty > > and some times aggressive, have a charisma of > > attracting crowd, collapsed on 20.06.2004 at > around > > 3.00 pm while delivering yet a forceful speech > among a > > large gathering of Bank employees. The death was > > sudden. > > > > Brief details of the native : An average height of > > 56, not so dark complexion, father died at > small > > age, mother still alive, have two children, one > male > > and one female, both settled well, not earned much > > except owning an apartment at Hyderabad, a > diabetic, a > > foot ball player. > > > > Birth > > DOB 22.12.1949 TOB 02.06 a.m Longitude 80E2 > Latitude > > 14N17 5.30 East of GMT > > Death > > 20.06.2004 at around 3.00 p.m > > > > For academic knowledge, can any one analyse which > > planet has inflicted death to the above native? > > > > Is it Yogakaraka Saturn, or Lagna Lord Venus(for > > having 8th lord-ship) or Transit of Rahu in7th > from > > Lagna having aspect of 2nd/7th lord Mars in birth > > Chart. Can Lagna Lord become a Maraka? Please > clarify > > my doubts. > > > > With regards > > dkvrao > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We > finish. > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 ::om namo bhagavate vasudevaya:: Dear Mukund A person who lives by the gun shall die by the gun. Rahu in the 3rd from Narayana dasa sign is a great protector as it gives the parakrama to defeat all enemies. The native bows to Durga and causes durgati on the enemies. However the third house is also the place of death and one day his karma catches up and he too meets with such an end which he has caused to so many others. That is the reason behind the Maharishi's teaching. Jaimini is trying to prove to us that good karma alone matters. Take the case of rahu in 6th from AL. Here the native is valorous and a great warrior but he is also a thief and shall use terror tactics to make people cough up money. Look at the charts of so many govt servants in the customs and tax departments of developing countries and yoiu will find this dictum for corruption working well. if you see Mars then the native uses veiled threats, if Rahu terror and great fear, if saturn sorrow and mistakes are caught and then money is extracted... Either way malefics in 3 & 6 from AL does not give (a) good end and (b) good character respectively With best regards, Sanjay Rath SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com - monmuk111 vedic astrology Friday, June 25, 2004 8:44 PM [vedic astrology] Re: which planet has inflicted death? To Visti Hello Visti: Your note says "Rahu in 3rd from AL causes sudden unnatural death." Now, I very clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's book's that "A malefic located in 3rd or 6th from AL becomes a great protector and it destroys the enemies of the native." Can you please reconcile the statement you made with the dictum given by Sanjay? (I'm in my office right now, but I can give you the name of this book and Pg.# tomorrow). Thanks. Mukund vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear dkvrao, > Using Vimshottari Dasa, always pay attention to Gulika or the Mrityu Sphuta > when timing death. Gulika is in Anuradha Nakñatra which is lorded by Saturn. > Hence Saturn Dasa will act like Gulika Dasa and can be death inflicting. > > As for Mrityu Sputa, the native is born during the night, so we add the > longitudes of Rähu and Moon and arrive at Poorva Ashada Nakñatra lorded by > Venus - this did not give death in his case. > > Now if you look at the Ärüòha Lagna in Capricorn and see the cause of death > - Rähu in 3rd from AL (sudden death, unnatural) and Saturn in 8th from AL > (disease, sorrow, etc) are competing to kill the native. > > Saturn won, and is placed in Leo indicating heart disease and hence Saturn > Dasa. Saturn is lording Ärüòha Lagna and is placed in the 8th there from, > hence he performed an action which was risk-taking. Jupiter and Venus in > Ärüòha lagna sees Saturn, hence he and his family knew about the risk he was > taking but he took it anyway. > > Best wishes, > Visti Larsen > visti@s... > > > > > > rao vasudevadk [dkv_rao] > 25 June 2004 13:12 > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] which planet has inflicted death????? > > SRI RAMA RAMA RAMAETI > ---------------------- > Dear List, > > I am giving birth/death details of a well noted person > in the Banking Circle both in the State of Andhra > Pradesh and as well in India. The native was well > educated, a Bank employee, became a union leader of > the largest Bank, step by step grown to become state > leader and represented national bank employees for > over 4 years. He was a good orator, some times witty > and some times aggressive, have a charisma of > attracting crowd, collapsed on 20.06.2004 at around > 3.00 pm while delivering yet a forceful speech among a > large gathering of Bank employees. The death was > sudden. > > Brief details of the native : An average height of > 56, not so dark complexion, father died at small > age, mother still alive, have two children, one male > and one female, both settled well, not earned much > except owning an apartment at Hyderabad, a diabetic, a > foot ball player. > > Birth > DOB 22.12.1949 TOB 02.06 a.m Longitude 80E2 Latitude > 14N17 5.30 East of GMT > Death > 20.06.2004 at around 3.00 p.m > > For academic knowledge, can any one analyse which > planet has inflicted death to the above native? > > Is it Yogakaraka Saturn, or Lagna Lord Venus(for > having 8th lord-ship) or Transit of Rahu in7th from > Lagna having aspect of 2nd/7th lord Mars in birth > Chart. Can Lagna Lord become a Maraka? Please clarify > my doubts. > > With regards > dkvrao > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 Om Hoom Ram Chaitanyayai Namah! Dear Visti Ji, Can Ke be a great protector? For example, if AL is in 4th and Ke is in 9th Bhava. Yours truly, Youry Jai Guru Dev "monmuk111" <monmuk111 > 06/25/2004 09:14 AM To vedic astrology cc Subject [vedic astrology] Re: which planet has inflicted death? To Visti Hello Visti: Your note says "Rahu in 3rd from AL causes sudden unnatural death." Now, I very clearly remember reading in one of Sanjay's book's that "A malefic located in 3rd or 6th from AL becomes a great protector and it destroys the enemies of the native." Can you please reconcile the statement you made with the dictum given by Sanjay? (I'm in my office right now, but I can give you the name of this book and Pg.# tomorrow). Thanks. Mukund vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krsna| > Dear dkvrao, > Using Vimshottari Dasa, always pay attention to Gulika or the Mrityu Sphuta > when timing death. Gulika is in Anuradha Nakñatra which is lorded by Saturn. > Hence Saturn Dasa will act like Gulika Dasa and can be death inflicting. > > As for Mrityu Sputa, the native is born during the night, so we add the > longitudes of Rähu and Moon and arrive at Poorva Ashada Nakñatra lorded by > Venus - this did not give death in his case. > > Now if you look at the Ärüòha Lagna in Capricorn and see the cause of death > - Rähu in 3rd from AL (sudden death, unnatural) and Saturn in 8th from AL > (disease, sorrow, etc) are competing to kill the native. > > Saturn won, and is placed in Leo indicating heart disease and hence Saturn > Dasa. Saturn is lording Ärüòha Lagna and is placed in the 8th there from, > hence he performed an action which was risk-taking. Jupiter and Venus in > Ärüòha lagna sees Saturn, hence he and his family knew about the risk he was > taking but he took it anyway. > > Best wishes, > Visti Larsen > visti@s... > > > > > > rao vasudevadk [dkv_rao] > 25 June 2004 13:12 > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] which planet has inflicted death????? > > SRI RAMA RAMA RAMAETI > ---------------------- > Dear List, > > I am giving birth/death details of a well noted person > in the Banking Circle both in the State of Andhra > Pradesh and as well in India. The native was well > educated, a Bank employee, became a union leader of > the largest Bank, step by step grown to become state > leader and represented national bank employees for > over 4 years. He was a good orator, some times witty > and some times aggressive, have a charisma of > attracting crowd, collapsed on 20.06.2004 at around > 3.00 pm while delivering yet a forceful speech among a > large gathering of Bank employees. The death was > sudden. > > Brief details of the native : An average height of > 56, not so dark complexion, father died at small > age, mother still alive, have two children, one male > and one female, both settled well, not earned much > except owning an apartment at Hyderabad, a diabetic, a > foot ball player. > > Birth > DOB 22.12.1949 TOB 02.06 a.m Longitude 80E2 Latitude > 14N17 5.30 East of GMT > Death > 20.06.2004 at around 3.00 p.m > > For academic knowledge, can any one analyse which > planet has inflicted death to the above native? > > Is it Yogakaraka Saturn, or Lagna Lord Venus(for > having 8th lord-ship) or Transit of Rahu in7th from > Lagna having aspect of 2nd/7th lord Mars in birth > Chart. Can Lagna Lord become a Maraka? Please clarify > my doubts. > > With regards > dkvrao > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > Links ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click./L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.8XolB/TM --~-> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||<*> vedic astrology/ <*> To from this group, send an email to: vedic astrology <*> Your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 Om Hoom Ram Chaitanyayai Namah! Dear Lakshman Ji, Could you please advise, how to explain the Ch is in 6th (3rd from AL) and Ke is in 9th (6th from AL), when AL is in 4th? Yours truly, Youry Jai Guru Dev Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > 06/25/2004 06:09 PM To monmuk111 <monmuk111 >, vedic astrology cc Subject Re: [vedic astrology] Re: which planet has inflicted death? To Visti Dear Mukund 3rd from AL also denotes sorroundings about death. this is another aspect of 3rd from AL. Malefics there can give unnatural or painful death to a person. At the same time the malefics in 3/6th from AL makes one bold where as benefics there makes one coward. You will find gurudeva Sanjayji explaining this in example of chart of Gandhi in one of his Books. Lakshman --- monmuk111 <monmuk111 > wrote: > Hello Visti: > > Your note says "Rahu in 3rd from AL causes sudden > unnatural death." > > Now, I very clearly remember reading in one of > Sanjay's book's > that "A malefic located in 3rd or 6th from AL > becomes a great > protector and it destroys the enemies of the > native." > > Can you please reconcile the statement you made with > the dictum given > by Sanjay? (I'm in my office right now, but I can > give you the name > of this book and Pg.# tomorrow). > > Thanks. > Mukund > > vedic astrology, "Visti > Larsen" <visti@s...> > wrote: > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > Dear dkvrao, > > Using Vimshottari Dasa, always pay attention to > Gulika or the > Mrityu Sphuta > > when timing death. Gulika is in Anuradha Nakñatra > which is lorded > by Saturn. > > Hence Saturn Dasa will act like Gulika Dasa and > can be death > inflicting. > > > > As for Mrityu Sputa, the native is born during the > night, so we add > the > > longitudes of Rähu and Moon and arrive at Poorva > Ashada Nakñatra > lorded by > > Venus - this did not give death in his case. > > > > Now if you look at the Ärüòha Lagna in Capricorn > and see the cause > of death > > - Rähu in 3rd from AL (sudden death, unnatural) > and Saturn in 8th > from AL > > (disease, sorrow, etc) are competing to kill the > native. > > > > Saturn won, and is placed in Leo indicating heart > disease and hence > Saturn > > Dasa. Saturn is lording Ärüòha Lagna and is placed > in the 8th there > from, > > hence he performed an action which was > risk-taking. Jupiter and > Venus in > > Ärüòha lagna sees Saturn, hence he and his family > knew about the > risk he was > > taking but he took it anyway. > > > > Best wishes, > > Visti Larsen > > visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > rao vasudevadk [dkv_rao] > > 25 June 2004 13:12 > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] which planet has > inflicted death????? > > > > SRI RAMA RAMA RAMAETI > > ---------------------- > > Dear List, > > > > I am giving birth/death details of a well noted > person > > in the Banking Circle both in the State of Andhra > > Pradesh and as well in India. The native was well > > educated, a Bank employee, became a union leader > of > > the largest Bank, step by step grown to become > state > > leader and represented national bank employees for > > over 4 years. He was a good orator, some times > witty > > and some times aggressive, have a charisma of > > attracting crowd, collapsed on 20.06.2004 at > around > > 3.00 pm while delivering yet a forceful speech > among a > > large gathering of Bank employees. The death was > > sudden. > > > > Brief details of the native : An average height of > > 56, not so dark complexion, father died at > small > > age, mother still alive, have two children, one > male > > and one female, both settled well, not earned much > > except owning an apartment at Hyderabad, a > diabetic, a > > foot ball player. > > > > Birth > > DOB 22.12.1949 TOB 02.06 a.m Longitude 80E2 > Latitude > > 14N17 5.30 East of GMT > > Death > > 20.06.2004 at around 3.00 p.m > > > > For academic knowledge, can any one analyse which > > planet has inflicted death to the above native? > > > > Is it Yogakaraka Saturn, or Lagna Lord Venus(for > > having 8th lord-ship) or Transit of Rahu in7th > from > > Lagna having aspect of 2nd/7th lord Mars in birth > > Chart. Can Lagna Lord become a Maraka? Please > clarify > > my doubts. > > > > With regards > > dkvrao > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We > finish. > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Links > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click./L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.8XolB/TM --~-> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||<*> vedic astrology/ <*> To from this group, send an email to: vedic astrology <*> Your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 ||OM Krishna Guru|| Dear jai Guru dev ( is that the name??) When Chandra (as a benefic)is in 6th then the signifactions of the house owned by it (ie Cn), and Mother's health are weakened. I am not sure as to what house or bhava in reference chart is denoted by Cn. Now coming to 3rd from AL, benefics indicate a prior knowledge about death to a person. The following are from the jaimini Maharshi's Upedesa sutra ( Translation bu guruji rath). There are other rules associated to this dictum.As mo is natural signifactor of 4th house, 4th from Mo is to be seen. I am giving below in short the effects : If Mo associates with 3rd/8th from AL, then the nature of the sign determines the death. If Mo is in libra - The native is Clubbed to death. Mo is in Leo - native dies due to poisonous snakes and reptiles etc. Mo in Aries - Danger from creatures in water. Guruji has also mentioned that Mo indicates death normally through Living organisms/creatures. If lagna lord is in 4th house, the AL falls in 4th. Now Ke in 6th from AL may make one to beleive in NoN Violance. plus it is in 9th from lagna which is good for spiritual pursuits. I hope my reply was of some help. Thanks and good wishes lakshman > Om Hoom Ram Chaitanyayai Namah! > Dear Lakshman Ji, > > Could you please advise, how to explain the Ch is in > 6th (3rd from AL) and > Ke is in 9th (6th from AL), when AL is in 4th? > > Yours truly, > > Youry > Jai Guru Dev > > > > Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > 06/25/2004 06:09 PM > > To > monmuk111 <monmuk111, > vedic astrology > cc > > Subject > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: which planet has inflicted > death? To Visti Dear Mukund > 3rd from AL also denotes sorroundings about death. > this is another aspect of 3rd from AL. Malefics > there > can give unnatural or painful death to a person. At > the same time the malefics in 3/6th from AL makes > one > bold where as benefics there makes one coward. > You will find gurudeva Sanjayji explaining this in > example of chart of Gandhi in one of his Books. > > Lakshman > > > --- monmuk111 <monmuk111 wrote: > > Hello Visti: > > > > Your note says "Rahu in 3rd from AL causes sudden > > unnatural death." > > > > Now, I very clearly remember reading in one of > > Sanjay's book's > > that "A malefic located in 3rd or 6th from AL > > becomes a great > > protector and it destroys the enemies of the > > native." > > > > Can you please reconcile the statement you made > with > > the dictum given > > by Sanjay? (I'm in my office right now, but I can > > give you the name > > of this book and Pg.# tomorrow). > > > > Thanks. > > Mukund > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti > > Larsen" <visti@s...> > > wrote: > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > Dear dkvrao, > > > Using Vimshottari Dasa, always pay attention to > > Gulika or the > > Mrityu Sphuta > > > when timing death. Gulika is in Anuradha > Nakñatra > > which is lorded > > by Saturn. > > > Hence Saturn Dasa will act like Gulika Dasa and > > can be death > > inflicting. > > > > > > As for Mrityu Sputa, the native is born during > the > > night, so we add > > the > > > longitudes of Rähu and Moon and arrive at Poorva > > Ashada Nakñatra > > lorded by > > > Venus - this did not give death in his case. > > > > > > Now if you look at the Ärüòha Lagna in Capricorn > > and see the cause > > of death > > > - Rähu in 3rd from AL (sudden death, unnatural) > > and Saturn in 8th > > from AL > > > (disease, sorrow, etc) are competing to kill the > > native. > > > > > > Saturn won, and is placed in Leo indicating > heart > > disease and hence > > Saturn > > > Dasa. Saturn is lording Ärüòha Lagna and is > placed > > in the 8th there > > from, > > > hence he performed an action which was > > risk-taking. Jupiter and > > Venus in > > > Ärüòha lagna sees Saturn, hence he and his > family > > knew about the > > risk he was > > > taking but he took it anyway. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Visti Larsen > > > visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rao vasudevadk [dkv_rao] > > > 25 June 2004 13:12 > > > vedic astrology > > > [vedic astrology] which planet has > > inflicted death????? > > > > > > SRI RAMA RAMA RAMAETI > > > ---------------------- > > > Dear List, > > > > > > I am giving birth/death details of a well noted > > person > > > in the Banking Circle both in the State of > Andhra > > > Pradesh and as well in India. The native was > well > > > educated, a Bank employee, became a union leader > > of > > > the largest Bank, step by step grown to become > > state > > > leader and represented national bank employees > for > > > over 4 years. He was a good orator, some times > > witty > > > and some times aggressive, have a charisma of > > > attracting crowd, collapsed on 20.06.2004 at > > around > > > 3.00 pm while delivering yet a forceful speech > > among a > > > large gathering of Bank employees. The death was > > > sudden. > > > > > > Brief details of the native : An average height > of > > > 56, not so dark complexion, father died at > > small > > > age, mother still alive, have two children, one > > male > > > and one female, both settled well, not earned > much > > > except owning an apartment at Hyderabad, a > > diabetic, a > > > foot ball player. > > > > > > Birth > > > DOB 22.12.1949 TOB 02.06 a.m Longitude 80E2 > > Latitude > > > 14N17 5.30 East of GMT > > > Death > > > 20.06.2004 at around 3.00 p.m > > > > > > For academic knowledge, can any one analyse > which > > > planet has inflicted death to the above native? > > > > > > Is it Yogakaraka Saturn, or Lagna Lord Venus(for > > > having 8th lord-ship) or Transit of Rahu in7th > > from > > > Lagna having aspect of 2nd/7th lord Mars in > birth > > > Chart. Can Lagna Lord become a Maraka? Please > > clarify > > > my doubts. > > > > > > With regards > > > dkvrao > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 Om Hoom Ram Chaitanyayai Namah! Dear Lakshman Ji, Thank you very much for your explanation! My name is Youry. I would be happy, if my name be Jai Guru Dev The native Rasi and Navamsa charts are below. The native mother really has many problems with health, especially last several years. You is totally correct. It was predicted death from the knife in about 72 years for the native. He has some interest to spiritual pursuits. Can we say about Ke in 9th (6th from AL): > > > that "A malefic located in 3rd or 6th from AL > > > becomes a great > > > protector and it destroys the enemies of the > > > native." Yours truly, Youry Rasi +--------------+ | \ / \ / | | \ / \ Ju / | | \ / \ / | | \ / HL \ / | | \ / \ / Md | |Ra x As x Sa Ve | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 1 / Ma \ | | / \ / \ | | AL x Su | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ Gk / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | |GL x x Ke Me | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Mo \ / \ | | / \ / \ | +--------------+ Navamsa +--------------+ | \ HL Gk / \ / | | \ Su / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / Ve \ / | | \ / \ / | |Ma GL x As x | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ 2 / AL \ | | / \ / \ | | Ke x Ra | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | \ / \ / | | x Me x Ju Mo | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / \ / \ | | / Sa \ / \ | | / Md \ / \ | +--------------+ ||Jai Guru Dev || Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > wrote on 06/28/2004 06:50:30 AM: > ||OM Krishna Guru|| > Dear jai Guru dev ( is that the name??) > When Chandra (as a benefic)is in 6th then the > signifactions of the house owned by it (ie Cn), and > Mother's health are weakened. I am not sure as to what > house or bhava in reference chart is denoted by Cn. > Now coming to 3rd from AL, benefics indicate a prior > knowledge about death to a person. > The following are from the jaimini Maharshi's Upedesa > sutra ( Translation bu guruji rath). > There are other rules associated to this dictum.As mo > is natural signifactor of 4th house, 4th from Mo is to > be seen. I am giving below in short the effects : > If Mo associates with 3rd/8th from AL, then the nature > of the sign determines the death. > If Mo is in libra - The native is Clubbed to death. > Mo is in Leo - native dies due to poisonous snakes and > reptiles etc. > Mo in Aries - Danger from creatures in water. > Guruji has also mentioned that Mo indicates death > normally through Living organisms/creatures. > If lagna lord is in 4th house, the AL falls in 4th. > Now Ke in 6th from AL may make one to beleive in NoN > Violance. plus it is in 9th from lagna which is good > for spiritual pursuits. > I hope my reply was of some help. > Thanks and good wishes > lakshman > > Om Hoom Ram Chaitanyayai Namah! > > Dear Lakshman Ji, > > > > Could you please advise, how to explain the Ch is in > > 6th (3rd from AL) and > > Ke is in 9th (6th from AL), when AL is in 4th? > > > > Yours truly, > > > > Youry > > Jai Guru Dev > > > > > > > > Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma > > > 06/25/2004 06:09 PM > > > > To > > monmuk111 <monmuk111 >, > > vedic astrology > > cc > > > > Subject > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: which planet has inflicted > > death? To Visti > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mukund > > 3rd from AL also denotes sorroundings about death. > > this is another aspect of 3rd from AL. Malefics > > there > > can give unnatural or painful death to a person. At > > the same time the malefics in 3/6th from AL makes > > one > > bold where as benefics there makes one coward. > > You will find gurudeva Sanjayji explaining this in > > example of chart of Gandhi in one of his Books. > > > > Lakshman > > > > > > --- monmuk111 <monmuk111 > wrote: > > > Hello Visti: > > > > > > Your note says "Rahu in 3rd from AL causes sudden > > > unnatural death." > > > > > > Now, I very clearly remember reading in one of > > > Sanjay's book's > > > that "A malefic located in 3rd or 6th from AL > > > becomes a great > > > protector and it destroys the enemies of the > > > native." > > > > > > Can you please reconcile the statement you made > > with > > > the dictum given > > > by Sanjay? (I'm in my office right now, but I can > > > give you the name > > > of this book and Pg.# tomorrow). > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Mukund > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Visti > > > Larsen" <visti@s...> > > > wrote: > > > > |Hare Rama Krsna| > > > > Dear dkvrao, > > > > Using Vimshottari Dasa, always pay attention to > > > Gulika or the > > > Mrityu Sphuta > > > > when timing death. Gulika is in Anuradha > > Nakñatra > > > which is lorded > > > by Saturn. > > > > Hence Saturn Dasa will act like Gulika Dasa and > > > can be death > > > inflicting. > > > > > > > > As for Mrityu Sputa, the native is born during > > the > > > night, so we add > > > the > > > > longitudes of Rähu and Moon and arrive at Poorva > > > Ashada Nakñatra > > > lorded by > > > > Venus - this did not give death in his case. > > > > > > > > Now if you look at the Ärüòha Lagna in Capricorn > > > and see the cause > > > of death > > > > - Rähu in 3rd from AL (sudden death, unnatural) > > > and Saturn in 8th > > > from AL > > > > (disease, sorrow, etc) are competing to kill the > > > native. > > > > > > > > Saturn won, and is placed in Leo indicating > > heart > > > disease and hence > > > Saturn > > > > Dasa. Saturn is lording Ärüòha Lagna and is > > placed > > > in the 8th there > > > from, > > > > hence he performed an action which was > > > risk-taking. Jupiter and > > > Venus in > > > > Ärüòha lagna sees Saturn, hence he and his > > family > > > knew about the > > > risk he was > > > > taking but he took it anyway. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > visti@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rao vasudevadk [dkv_rao] > > > > 25 June 2004 13:12 > > > > vedic astrology > > > > [vedic astrology] which planet has > > > inflicted death????? > > > > > > > > SRI RAMA RAMA RAMAETI > > > > ---------------------- > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > > I am giving birth/death details of a well noted > > > person > > > > in the Banking Circle both in the State of > > Andhra > > > > Pradesh and as well in India. The native was > > well > > > > educated, a Bank employee, became a union leader > > > of > > > > the largest Bank, step by step grown to become > > > state > > > > leader and represented national bank employees > > for > > > > over 4 years. He was a good orator, some times > > > witty > > > > and some times aggressive, have a charisma of > > > > attracting crowd, collapsed on 20.06.2004 at > > > around > > > > 3.00 pm while delivering yet a forceful speech > > > among a > > > > large gathering of Bank employees. The death was > > > > sudden. > > > > > > > > Brief details of the native : An average height > > of > > > > 56, not so dark complexion, father died at > > > small > > > > age, mother still alive, have two children, one > > > male > > > > and one female, both settled well, not earned > > much > > > > except owning an apartment at Hyderabad, a > > > diabetic, a > > > > foot ball player. > > > > > > > > Birth > > > > DOB 22.12.1949 TOB 02.06 a.m Longitude 80E2 > > > Latitude > > > > 14N17 5.30 East of GMT > > > > Death > > > > 20.06.2004 at around 3.00 p.m > > > > > > > > For academic knowledge, can any one analyse > > which > > > > planet has inflicted death to the above native? > > > > > > > > Is it Yogakaraka Saturn, or Lagna Lord Venus(for > > > > having 8th lord-ship) or Transit of Rahu in7th > > > from > > > > Lagna having aspect of 2nd/7th lord Mars in > > birth > > > > Chart. Can Lagna Lord become a Maraka? Please > > > clarify > > > > my doubts. > > > > > > > > With regards > > > > dkvrao > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor --------------------~--> > Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Companion Toolbar. > Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! > http://us.click./L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/.8XolB/TM > --~-> > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > Links > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > vedic astrology/ > > <*> > vedic astrology > > <*> Your > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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