Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga Das - exch 2

Friday, June 18, 2004 3:26 PM

Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga Das - exch 2

Dear Gauranga,

Thanks for ur mail, I had sent one short email but it bounced back since I had

put capital G instead of small g.

First and foremost I must thank you from my heart for replying this complex

topic which no one has answered on the list.If ur kind self would have chosen

to replied on the list many would have learned, but you may have ur reasons

although i feel that u should be more active on the list like old days.

Pls find my subsequent queries below as SJ

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Sunil,

Namaste.

> 1. Can Varnada Lagna be used for seeing the ability of Jyotish.

Gauranga: The clue lies always in the lord of the Varnada Lagna. If he is associating

with Jupiter or Ketu, then becoming a professional astrologer is a

possibility.

SJ: A basic query here, If by associating, I presume u are referring to aspect

or lordship. If it is aspect are u also taking into account rasi dristi, and if

it is lordship, would the VL being the owner of Scorpio also contribute to

Jyotish, and subsequently if we have to see Jyotish and hence Ketu, should we

see who is stronger of Mars and Ketu.

In your case etu is functionally debilitated, so Mars is actually stronger. So

he becomes the lord fo Varnada lagna. He is in Aquarius in 9th house, not

associating with Jupiter. However VL in Scorpio may still hold some ability.

> 2. What happens if Jup exalted and deb have rasi dristi on VL.

Gauranga: Exalted is better I suppose.

SJ: Thanks, would ones Jyotish abilities increase during the period when during

transit Jup or Ketu aspect the VL

Yes, definitely, especially if they are weak in the Janma Kundli, then a strong

transit position is very beneficial.

> 3. What is the basic and esoteric meaning of Varnada Lagna

Gauranga: Varna-da, i.e. giver of varna (caste). would inidcate the external varna

(caste) one belongs to or the profession one would practice.

SJ:Thanks

> 4.What and how are its applications

Details are given in Upadesa Sutras of Jaimini.

Gauranga: I think it is good, but gives only a fragment of the possibilities. It would

appear in someone's chart who is a professional astrologer and makes his

living in this way. However for amateurs, there may be other indications,

especially 2nd, 5th and 10th houses influenced by Jupiter and Mercury, in

Rasi, D-10 and D-24, which may give a wide variety of interests in and

commintment to Jyotish.

SJ: Can I request u with a personal favor, I have been thinking about this for

months now, would i become a very good exceptional astrologer. I am attaching

my chart and would like to know ur esteemed view.

My time of birth is 9.46 am and rectified by some to 9.55.23 or 9.58 the

rectification was done on the basis of my profession which is TV industry as an

Executive Producer (salaried).

11th May 1973 9.46 am, Bombay

Well, Jupiter in the 8th is favourable for intuition, as well as him being lord

of 10th house. However he is debilitated, so a substantial strengthening of

Jupiter is needed. So you have some ability for Jyotish. However in dasamsa

Jupiter influences neither of the 2nd, 5th, 8th or 10th. Only Mercury is

exalted in 10th. Therefore becoming a professional is not so likely.

In D-24 you have more opportunities, however the 4 planets Jupiter, Mercury,

Rahu and Ketu are in Badhaka sthana from the 5th house. So you are able to

learn Jyotish, however a lot of efforts are required for this.

5. Can the VL be used to time job, if so yes then how, i ask this since VL is

also indicator of profession as stated.

According to Parasara, Varnada dasa is an Ayur dasa, not Phalita. So he gives

examples of using it for timing the longevity of the native and his relatives.

I am not aware of anyone using it for timing changes in job. I would recommend

Kalacakra dasa or D-10 Narayana dasa. According to Kalacakra dasa you have

Pisces dasa from 2001 to 2011, which has Jupiter in own house in 4th in D-10.

Looks like some Jyotish-related activity may be there, but it is more connected

t home than to workplace. In D-10 Narayana dasa you have the same dasa beginning

from 2006 to 2018. This may give the same indications.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish

Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone: +36-309-140-839

Thanking you,

With blessings from Divine Mother

Sunil John

Mumbai

P.S: Pls find my JHD chart attached. sorry for my delayed reply, I wanted to

think cooly on VL before replying to u.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

Phone: +36-309-140-839

June 28, 2004

|Hare Räma

Kåñëa|

Dear Sunil,

As far as I

have learnt, the Varëada Lagna does not show abilities, it shows that work

which sustains you.

In far most

of the charts of astrologers I have, its Venus or Jupiter associated with 11th

from Varëada lagna, and in either case the astrologer would either be a

practitioner or a teacher, respectively. I have a chart of someone who tried to

take on the profession as an astrologer but who didn’t have Venus

associated with the 11th from VL – He wasn’t very

successful and had to try new ways. Jupiter was associating and people were

quite fond of his skills as a teacher of Jyotiña. Jupiter is also a priest,

teacher, poet, singer, etc among varnas.

Best wishes,

bold">Visti Larsen

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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">Gauranga Das

[gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net]

28 June 2004 18:27

Sunil John

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Sunil

John

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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">Friday, June 18, 2004 3:26 PM

font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">Varnada Lagna

discussion with Gauranga Das - exch 2

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bold">Dear Gauranga,

bold">Thanks for ur

mail, I had sent one short email but it bounced back since I had put capital G

instead of small g.

bold">First and foremost I must thank you from my heart for replying this

complex topic which no one has answered on the list.If ur

kind self would have chosen to replied on the list many would have learned, but

you may have ur

reasons although i feel that u should be more active on the list like old days.

12.0pt">

bold">Pls find my subsequent queries below as SJ

12.0pt">

JAYA

JAGANNATHA!

Dear

Sunil,

Namaste.

> 1.

Can Varnada Lagna be used for seeing the ability of Jyotish.

color:red">Gauranga: The clue lies always in the lord of the Varnada Lagna. If

he is associating

color:red">with Jupiter or Ketu, then becoming a professional astrologer is a

color:red">possibility.

bold">SJ: A basic query here, If by associating, I presume u are referring to

aspect or lordship. If it is aspect are u also taking into account rasi dristi,

and if it is lordship, would the VL being the owner of Scorpio also contribute

to Jyotish, and subsequently if we have to see Jyotish and hence Ketu, should

we see who is stronger of Mars and Ketu.

In your

case etu is functionally debilitated, so Mars is actually stronger. So he

becomes the lord fo Varnada lagna. He is in Aquarius in 9th house, not

associating with Jupiter. However VL in Scorpio may still hold some ability.

> 2.

What happens if Jup exalted and deb have rasi dristi on VL.

color:red">Gauranga: Exalted is better I suppose.

bold">SJ: Thanks, would ones Jyotish abilities increase during the period when

during transit Jup or Ketu aspect the VL

Yes,

definitely, especially if they are weak in the Janma Kundli, then a strong

transit position is very beneficial.

> 3.

What is the basic and esoteric meaning of Varnada Lagna

color:red">Gauranga: Varna-da, i.e. giver of varna (caste). would inidcate the external varna

color:red">(caste) one belongs to or the profession one would practice.

bold">SJ:Thanks

10.0pt">

>

4.What and how are its applications

Details

are given in Upadesa Sutras of Jaimini.

color:red">Gauranga: I think it is good, but gives only a fragment of the

possibilities. It would

color:red">appear in someone's chart who is a professional astrologer and makes

his

color:red">living in this way. However for amateurs, there may be other

indications,

color:red">especially 2nd, 5th and 10th houses influenced by Jupiter and

Mercury, in

color:red">Rasi, D-10 and D-24, which may give a wide variety of interests in

and

color:red">commintment to Jyotish.

bold">SJ: Can I request u with a personal favor, I have been thinking about

this for months now, would i become a very good exceptional astrologer. I am

attaching my chart and would like to know ur

esteemed view.

10.0pt">

bold">My time of birth is 9.46 am and rectified by some to 9.55.23 or 9.58 the

rectification was done on the basis of my profession which is TV industry

as an Executive Producer (salaried).

bold">11th May 1973 9.46 am, Bombay

Well,

Jupiter in the 8th is favourable for intuition, as well as him being lord of

10th house. However he is debilitated, so a substantial strengthening

of Jupiter is needed. So you have some ability for Jyotish. However

in dasamsa Jupiter influences neither of the 2nd, 5th, 8th or 10th.

Only Mercury is exalted in 10th. Therefore becoming a professional is not

so likely.

In D-24

you have more opportunities, however the 4 planets Jupiter, Mercury, Rahu and

Ketu are in Badhaka sthana from the 5th house. So you are able to learn

Jyotish, however a lot of efforts are required for this.

bold">5. Can the VL be used to time job, if so yes then how, i ask this since

VL is also indicator of profession as stated.

According

to Parasara, Varnada dasa is an Ayur dasa, not Phalita. So he gives examples of

using it for timing the longevity of the native and his relatives. I am

not aware of anyone using it for timing changes in job. I would recommend

Kalacakra dasa or D-10 Narayana dasa. According to Kalacakra dasa you have

Pisces dasa from 2001 to 2011, which has Jupiter in own house in 4th in D-10.

Looks like some Jyotish-related activity may be there, but it is more connected

t home than to workplace. In D-10 Narayana dasa you have the same dasa

beginning from 2006 to 2018. This may give the same indications.

Yours,

Gauranga

Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

Phone: +36-309-140-839

bold">Thanking you,

bold">With blessings from Divine Mother

bold">Sunil John

10.0pt">

bold">Mumbai

10.0pt">

bold">P.S: Pls find my JHD chart attached. sorry for my delayed reply, I wanted

to think cooly on VL before replying to u.

Yours,

Gauranga

Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish

Remedies:

Phone:

+36-309-140-839

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June 28, 2004

Om Hoom Ram Chaitanyayai Namah!

Dear Visti Ji,

Could you advice please, is it make sense for this person:

1 Feb 1964;10:43:34; 48N19; 38E17; TZ+3:00 to continue Jyotish study(the

JHD file is attached)?

He has Ke and Me in 11 from VL ( Gu is Lord of Bhava),

but he has no Sk nor Gu direct drishti from VL in Rasi. In D-10 he has

drishti from Gu (which is in the 1st Bhava)to 5th (in which is SK)and he

has Bu in the 2nd Bhava. Would he understand Jyotish deeply at least for

himself only, if he can't be a practitioner or a teacher?

Yours truly,

Youry

Jai Guru Dev

"Visti Larsen"

06/28/2004 01:03 PM

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|Hare Räma Kåñëa|

Dear Sunil,

As far as I have learnt, the Varëada Lagna does not show

abilities, it shows that work which sustains you.

In far most of the charts of astrologers I have, its Venus

or Jupiter associated with 11th from Varëada lagna, and in either

case the astrologer would either be a practitioner or a teacher, respectively.

I have a chart of someone who tried to take on the profession as an astrologer

but who didn’t have Venus associated with the 11th from VL

– He wasn’t very successful and had to try new ways. Jupiter was associating

and people were quite fond of his skills as a teacher of Jyotiña. Jupiter

is also a priest, teacher, poet, singer, etc among varnas.

Best wishes,

[iMAGE]

Visti Larsen

Gauranga Das [gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net]

28 June 2004 18:27

Sunil John

[vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna discussion

with Gauranga Das - exch 2

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Sunil John

To:gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

Sent:Friday, June 18, 20043:26 PM

Subject:Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga

Das - exch 2

Dear Gauranga,

Thanks for urmail, I had sent one short email but

it bounced back since I had put capital G instead of small g.

First and foremost I must thank you from my heart

for replying this complex topic which no one has answered on the list.If

urkind self would have chosen to replied on the list many would have learned,

but you may have urreasons although i feel that u should be more active

on the list like old days.

Pls find my subsequent queries below as SJ

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Sunil,

Namaste.

> 1. Can Varnada Lagna be used for seeing the ability

of Jyotish.

Gauranga: The clue lies always in the lord of the Varnada

Lagna. If he is associating

with Jupiter or Ketu, then becoming a professional astrologer

is a

possibility.

SJ: A basic query here, If by associating, I presume

u are referring to aspect or lordship. If it is aspect are u also taking

into account rasi dristi, and if it is lordship, would the VL being the

owner of Scorpio also contribute to Jyotish, and subsequently if we have

to see Jyotish and hence Ketu, should we see who is stronger of Mars and

Ketu.

In your case etu is functionally debilitated, so Mars

is actually stronger. So he becomes the lord fo Varnada lagna. He is in

Aquarius in 9th house, not associating with Jupiter. However VL in Scorpio

may still hold some ability.

> 2. What happens if Jup exalted and deb have rasi

dristi on VL.

Gauranga: Exalted is better I suppose.

SJ: Thanks, would ones Jyotish abilities increase

during the period when during transit Jup or Ketu aspect the VL

Yes, definitely, especially if they are weak in the Janma

Kundli, then a strong transit position is very beneficial.

> 3. What is the basic and esoteric meaning of Varnada

Lagna

Gauranga: Varna-da, i.e. giver of varna(caste). would

inidcate the external varna

(caste) one belongs to or the profession one would practice.

SJ:Thanks

> 4.What and how are its applications

Details are given in Upadesa Sutras of Jaimini.

Gauranga: I think it is good, but gives only a fragment

of the possibilities. It would

appear in someone's chart who is a professional astrologer

and makes his

living in this way. However for amateurs, there may be

other indications,

especially 2nd, 5th and 10th houses influenced by Jupiter

and Mercury, in

Rasi, D-10 and D-24, which may give a wide variety of

interests in and

commintment to Jyotish.

SJ: Can I request u with a personal favor, I have

been thinking about this for months now, would i become a very good exceptional

astrologer. I am attaching my chart and would like to know uresteemed view.

My time of birth is 9.46 am and rectified by some

to 9.55.23 or 9.58 the rectification was done on the basis of my profession

which is TV industry as an Executive Producer (salaried).

11th May 1973 9.46 am, Bombay

Well, Jupiter in the 8th is favourable for intuition,

as well as him being lord of 10th house. However he is debilitated, so

a substantial strengthening of Jupiter is needed. So you have

some ability for Jyotish. However in dasamsa Jupiter influences neither

of the 2nd, 5th, 8th or 10th. Only Mercury is exalted in 10th. Therefore

becoming a professional is not so likely.

In D-24 you have more opportunities, however the 4 planets

Jupiter, Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are in Badhaka sthana from the 5th house.

So you are able to learn Jyotish, however a lot of efforts are required

for this.

5. Can the VL be used to time job, if so yes then

how, i ask this since VL is also indicator of profession as stated.

According to Parasara, Varnada dasa is an Ayur dasa, not

Phalita. So he gives examples of using it for timing the longevity of the

native and his relatives. I am not aware of anyone using it for timing

changes in job. I would recommend Kalacakra dasa or D-10 Narayana dasa.

According to Kalacakra dasa you have Pisces dasa from 2001 to 2011, which

has Jupiter in own house in 4th in D-10. Looks like some Jyotish-related

activity may be there, but it is more connected t home than to workplace.

In D-10 Narayana dasa you have the same dasa beginning from 2006 to

2018. This may give the same indications.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

Phone: +36-309-140-839

Thanking you,

With blessings from Divine Mother

Sunil John

Mumbai

P.S: Pls find my JHD chart attached. sorry for my

delayed reply, I wanted to think cooly on VL before replying to u.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

Phone: +36-309-140-839

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June 29, 2004

|Hare Räma Kåñëa´

Dear Youry,

Namaskar

Try

calculating the Varëada Lagna without the use of degrees.

i.e. Lagna is

Aries and Hora Lagna is also Aries – both odd. So 1+1=2, and this must be

the 2nd from Aries because Lagna is in an odd sign. Hence Taurus is

the Varëada Lagna. The 11th there-from has Jupiter in Pisces.

The person

will also understand Jyotiña quite well as Ätmakäraka is in the 11th

house from Lagna, and be quite good with predictions as Mars and Sun are very

strong in Kendra – Ruchaka Mahäpüruña Yoga. These are very strong

combinations.

Best wishes,

bold">Visti Larsen

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Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga Das - exch 2

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Om

Hoom Ram Chaitanyayai Namah!

Dear Visti Ji,

Could you advice please, is it make

sense for this person: 1 Feb 1964;10:43:34; 48N19; 38E17; TZ+3:00 to continue

Jyotish study(the JHD file is attached)?

He has Ke and Me in 11 from VL ( Gu

is Lord of Bhava), but he has no Sk nor Gu direct drishti from VL in Rasi. In

D-10 he has drishti from Gu (which is in the 1st Bhava)to 5th (in which is

SK)and he has Bu in the 2nd Bhava. Would he understand Jyotish deeply at least

for himself only, if he can't be a practitioner or a teacher?

Yours truly,

Youry

Jai Guru Dev

7.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;font-weight:bold">"Visti Larsen"

06/28/2004

01:03 PM

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|Hare Räma Kåñëa|

Dear Sunil,

As far as I have learnt, the

Varëada Lagna does not show abilities, it shows that work which sustains you.

In far most of the charts of

astrologers I have, its Venus or Jupiter associated with 11th from

Varëada lagna, and in either case the astrologer would either be a practitioner

or a teacher, respectively. I have a chart of someone who tried to take on the

profession as an astrologer but who didn’t have Venus associated with the

11th from VL – He wasn’t very successful and had to try

new ways. Jupiter was associating and people were quite fond of his skills as a

teacher of Jyotiña. Jupiter is also a priest, teacher, poet, singer, etc among

varnas.

Best wishes,

[iMAGE]

Visti

Larsen

12.0pt">

Gauranga Das

[gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net]

28 June 2004 18:27

Sunil John

[vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna

discussion with Gauranga Das - exch 2

-

Sunil

John

To:gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

Sent:Friday, June 18, 20043:26 PM

Subject:Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga

Das - exch 2

italic">Dear Gauranga,

italic">Thanks for urmail, I had sent one short email but it bounced back since

I had put capital G instead of small g.

italic">First and foremost I must thank you from my heart for replying this

complex topic which no one has answered on the list.If urkind self would have

chosen to replied on the list many would have learned, but you may have

urreasons although i feel that u should be more active on the list like old

days.

italic">Pls find my subsequent queries below as SJ

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Sunil,

Namaste.

> 1. Can Varnada Lagna be used

for seeing the ability of Jyotish.

Gauranga: The clue lies always in

the lord of the Varnada Lagna. If he is associating

with Jupiter or Ketu, then becoming

a professional astrologer is a

possibility.

italic">SJ: A basic query here, If by associating, I presume u are referring to

aspect or lordship. If it is aspect are u also taking into account rasi dristi,

and if it is lordship, would the VL being the owner of Scorpio also contribute

to Jyotish, and subsequently if we have to see Jyotish and hence Ketu, should

we see who is stronger of Mars and Ketu.

In your case etu is functionally debilitated, so Mars is actually stronger. So

he becomes the lord fo Varnada lagna. He is in Aquarius in 9th house, not

associating with Jupiter. However VL in Scorpio may still hold some ability.

> 2. What happens if Jup exalted

and deb have rasi dristi on VL.

Gauranga: Exalted is better I

suppose.

italic">SJ: Thanks, would ones Jyotish abilities increase during the period

when during transit Jup or Ketu aspect the VL

Yes, definitely, especially if they are weak in the Janma Kundli, then a strong

transit position is very beneficial.

> 3. What is the basic and

esoteric meaning of Varnada Lagna

Gauranga: Varna-da, i.e. giver of varna(caste). would

inidcate the external varna

(caste) one belongs to or the

profession one would practice.

italic">SJ:Thanks

> 4.What and how are its

applications

Details are given in Upadesa Sutras

of Jaimini.

Gauranga: I think it is good, but

gives only a fragment of the possibilities. It would

appear in someone's chart who is a

professional astrologer and makes his

living in this way. However for

amateurs, there may be other indications,

especially 2nd, 5th and 10th houses

influenced by Jupiter and Mercury, in

Rasi, D-10 and D-24, which may give

a wide variety of interests in and

commintment to Jyotish.

italic">SJ: Can I request u with a personal favor, I have been thinking about

this for months now, would i become a very good exceptional astrologer. I am

attaching my chart and would like to know uresteemed view.

italic">My time of birth is 9.46 am and rectified by some to 9.55.23 or 9.58

the rectification was done on the basis of my profession which is TV

industry as an Executive Producer (salaried).

italic">11th May 1973 9.46 am, Bombay

Well, Jupiter in the 8th is

favourable for intuition, as well as him being lord of 10th house. However he

is debilitated, so a substantial strengthening of Jupiter is

needed. So you have some ability for Jyotish. However in dasamsa Jupiter

influences neither of the 2nd, 5th, 8th or 10th. Only Mercury is exalted

in 10th. Therefore becoming a professional is not so likely.

In D-24 you have more

opportunities, however the 4 planets Jupiter, Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are in

Badhaka sthana from the 5th house. So you are able to learn Jyotish, however a

lot of efforts are required for this.

italic">5. Can the VL be used to time job, if so yes then how, i ask this since

VL is also indicator of profession as stated.

According to Parasara, Varnada dasa

is an Ayur dasa, not Phalita. So he gives examples of using it for timing the

longevity of the native and his relatives. I am not aware of anyone using

it for timing changes in job. I would recommend Kalacakra dasa or D-10 Narayana

dasa. According to Kalacakra dasa you have Pisces dasa from 2001 to 2011, which

has Jupiter in own house in 4th in D-10. Looks like some Jyotish-related

activity may be there, but it is more connected t home than to workplace. In

D-10 Narayana dasa you have the same dasa beginning from 2006 to 2018.

This may give the same indications.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

Phone: +36-309-140-839

italic">Thanking you,

italic">With blessings from Divine Mother

italic">Sunil John

italic">Mumbai

italic">P.S: Pls find my JHD chart attached. sorry for my delayed reply, I

wanted to think cooly on VL before replying to u.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

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Dear Visti,

I checked this 11th from VL in all the astrologer charts i have and

it worked true except in Your case!

Your VL is in gemini. 11th lord from gemini is mars. Your mars is in

leo and does get sign aspect by Jupiter.

So do we take it from this teaching jyotish will be more suited to

you than actually practicing it as a profession?

Best wishes

Kasim

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> As far as I have learnt, the Varëada Lagna does not show abilities,

it shows

> that work which sustains you.

>

> In far most of the charts of astrologers I have, its Venus or

Jupiter

> associated with 11th from Varëada lagna, and in either case the

astrologer

> would either be a practitioner or a teacher, respectively. I have a

chart of

> someone who tried to take on the profession as an astrologer but

who didn't

> have Venus associated with the 11th from VL – He wasn't very

successful and

> had to try new ways. Jupiter was associating and people were quite

fond of

> his skills as a teacher of Jyotiña. Jupiter is also a priest,

teacher, poet,

> singer, etc among varnas.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

_____

>

> Gauranga Das [gauranga@b...]

> 28 June 2004 18:27

> Sunil John

> [vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna discussion with

Gauranga Das -

> exch 2

>

> -

>

> Sunil <suniljohn_2004@h...> John

>

> gauranga@b...

>

> Friday, June 18, 2004 3:26 PM

>

> Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga Das - exch 2

>

> Dear Gauranga,

>

> Thanks for ur mail, I had sent one short email but it bounced back

since I

> had put capital G instead of small g.

>

> First and foremost I must thank you from my heart for replying this

complex

> topic which no one has answered on the list.If ur kind self would

have

> chosen to replied on the list many would have learned, but you may

have ur

> reasons although i feel that u should be more active on the list

like old

> days.

>

> Pls find my subsequent queries below as SJ

>

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> Namaste.

>

> > 1. Can Varnada Lagna be used for seeing the ability of Jyotish.

>

> Gauranga: The clue lies always in the lord of the Varnada Lagna. If

he is

> associating

>

> with Jupiter or Ketu, then becoming a professional astrologer is a

>

> possibility.

>

> SJ: A basic query here, If by associating, I presume u are

referring to

> aspect or lordship. If it is aspect are u also taking into account

rasi

> dristi, and if it is lordship, would the VL being the owner of

Scorpio also

> contribute to Jyotish, and subsequently if we have to see Jyotish

and hence

> Ketu, should we see who is stronger of Mars and Ketu.

>

> In your case etu is functionally debilitated, so Mars is actually

stronger.

> So he becomes the lord fo Varnada lagna. He is in Aquarius in 9th

house, not

> associating with Jupiter. However VL in Scorpio may still hold some

ability.

>

> > 2. What happens if Jup exalted and deb have rasi dristi on VL.

>

> Gauranga: Exalted is better I suppose.

>

> SJ: Thanks, would ones Jyotish abilities increase during the period

when

> during transit Jup or Ketu aspect the VL

>

> Yes, definitely, especially if they are weak in the Janma Kundli,

then a

> strong transit position is very beneficial.

>

> > 3. What is the basic and esoteric meaning of Varnada Lagna

>

> Gauranga: Varna-da, i.e. giver of varna (caste). would inidcate the

external

> varna

>

> (caste) one belongs to or the profession one would practice.

>

> SJ:Thanks

>

> > 4.What and how are its applications

>

> Details are given in Upadesa Sutras of Jaimini.

>

> Gauranga: I think it is good, but gives only a fragment of the

> possibilities. It would

>

> appear in someone's chart who is a professional astrologer and

makes his

>

> living in this way. However for amateurs, there may be other

indications,

>

> especially 2nd, 5th and 10th houses influenced by Jupiter and

Mercury, in

>

> Rasi, D-10 and D-24, which may give a wide variety of interests in

and

>

> commintment to Jyotish.

>

> SJ: Can I request u with a personal favor, I have been thinking

about this

> for months now, would i become a very good exceptional astrologer.

I am

> attaching my chart and would like to know ur esteemed view.

>

> My time of birth is 9.46 am and rectified by some to 9.55.23 or

9.58 the

> rectification was done on the basis of my profession which is TV

industry as

> an Executive Producer (salaried).

>

> 11th May 1973 9.46 am, Bombay

>

> Well, Jupiter in the 8th is favourable for intuition, as well as

him being

> lord of 10th house. However he is debilitated, so a substantial

> strengthening of Jupiter is needed. So you have some ability for

Jyotish.

> However in dasamsa Jupiter influences neither of the 2nd, 5th, 8th

or 10th.

> Only Mercury is exalted in 10th. Therefore becoming a professional

is not so

> likely.

>

> In D-24 you have more opportunities, however the 4 planets Jupiter,

Mercury,

> Rahu and Ketu are in Badhaka sthana from the 5th house. So you are

able to

> learn Jyotish, however a lot of efforts are required for this.

>

> 5. Can the VL be used to time job, if so yes then how, i ask this

since VL

> is also indicator of profession as stated.

>

> According to Parasara, Varnada dasa is an Ayur dasa, not Phalita.

So he

> gives examples of using it for timing the longevity of the native

and his

> relatives. I am not aware of anyone using it for timing changes in

job. I

> would recommend Kalacakra dasa or D-10 Narayana dasa. According to

Kalacakra

> dasa you have Pisces dasa from 2001 to 2011, which has Jupiter in

own house

> in 4th in D-10. Looks like some Jyotish-related activity may be

there, but

> it is more connected t home than to workplace. In D-10 Narayana

dasa you

> have the same dasa beginning from 2006 to 2018. This may give the

same

> indications.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga@b...

> Jyotish Remedies:

> Phone: +36-309-140-839

>

Thanking you,

>

> With blessings from Divine Mother

>

> Sunil John

>

> Mumbai

>

> P.S: Pls find my JHD chart attached. sorry for my delayed reply, I

wanted to

> think cooly on VL before replying to u.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

>

> gauranga@b...

>

> Jyotish Remedies:

>

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Dear Kasim,

Namaskar

Because of

this position some have thought that my Hora Lagna could be in Libra which

would change the Varëada Lagna to Sagittarius. But yes Jupiter’s influence

clearly indicates teaching.

Now try the

chart of Achyuta Dasa for the same. It’s attached in the mail. Try Hora Lagna

in both Aries and Taurus and see what you find.

Best wishes,

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12.0pt">

10.0pt">Dear Visti,

I checked this 11th from VL in all the astrologer

charts i have and

it worked true except in Your case!

Your VL is in gemini. 11th lord from gemini is

mars. Your mars is in

leo and does get sign aspect by Jupiter.

So do we take it from this teaching jyotish will

be more suited to

you than actually practicing it as a profession?

Best wishes

Kasim

vedic astrology,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> As far as I have learnt, the Varëada Lagna

does not show abilities,

it shows

> that work which sustains you.

>

> In far most of the charts of astrologers I

have, its Venus or

Jupiter

> associated with 11th from Varëada lagna, and

in either case the

astrologer

> would either be a practitioner or a teacher,

respectively. I have a

chart of

> someone who tried to take on the profession

as an astrologer but

who didn't

> have Venus associated with the 11th from VL

– He wasn't very

successful and

> had to try new ways. Jupiter was associating

and people were quite

fond of

> his skills as a teacher of Jyotiña. Jupiter

is also a priest,

teacher, poet,

> singer, etc among varnas.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> Gauranga Das [gauranga@b...]

> 28 June 2004 18:27

> Sunil John

> [vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna

discussion with

Gauranga Das -

> exch 2

>

> -

>

> Sunil

<suniljohn_2004@h...> John

>

> gauranga@b...

>

> Friday, June 18, 2004 3:26 PM

>

> Varnada Lagna discussion with

Gauranga Das - exch 2

>

> Dear Gauranga,

>

> Thanks for ur mail, I had sent one short email but it

bounced back

since I

> had put capital G instead of small g.

>

> First and foremost I must thank you from my

heart for replying this

complex

> topic which no one has answered on the

list.If ur kind

self would

have

> chosen to replied on the list many would have

learned, but you may

have ur

> reasons although i feel that u should be more

active on the list

like old

> days.

>

> Pls find my subsequent queries below as SJ

>

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> Namaste.

>

> > 1. Can Varnada Lagna be used for seeing

the ability of Jyotish.

>

> Gauranga: The clue lies always in the lord of

the Varnada Lagna. If

he is

> associating

>

> with Jupiter or Ketu, then becoming a

professional astrologer is a

>

> possibility.

>

> SJ: A basic query here, If by associating, I

presume u are

referring to

> aspect or lordship. If it is aspect are u

also taking into account

rasi

> dristi, and if it is lordship, would the VL

being the owner of

Scorpio also

> contribute to Jyotish, and subsequently if we

have to see Jyotish

and hence

> Ketu, should we see who is stronger of Mars

and Ketu.

>

> In your case etu is functionally debilitated,

so Mars is actually

stronger.

> So he becomes the lord fo Varnada lagna. He

is in Aquarius in 9th

house, not

> associating with Jupiter. However VL in

Scorpio may still hold some

ability.

>

> > 2. What happens if Jup exalted and deb

have rasi dristi on VL.

>

> Gauranga: Exalted is better I suppose.

>

> SJ: Thanks, would ones Jyotish abilities

increase during the period

when

> during transit Jup or Ketu aspect the VL

>

> Yes, definitely, especially if they are weak

in the Janma Kundli,

then a

> strong transit position is very beneficial.

>

> > 3. What is the basic and esoteric

meaning of Varnada Lagna

>

> Gauranga: Varna-da, i.e. giver of varna (caste). would

inidcate the

external

> varna

>

> (caste) one belongs to or the profession one

would practice.

>

> SJ:Thanks

>

> > 4.What and how are its applications

>

> Details are given in Upadesa Sutras of

Jaimini.

>

> Gauranga: I think it is good, but gives only

a fragment of the

> possibilities. It would

>

> appear in someone's chart who is a

professional astrologer and

makes his

>

> living in this way. However for amateurs,

there may be other

indications,

>

> especially 2nd, 5th and 10th houses

influenced by Jupiter and

Mercury, in

>

> Rasi, D-10 and D-24, which may give a wide

variety of interests in

and

>

> commintment to Jyotish.

>

> SJ: Can I request u with a personal favor, I

have been thinking

about this

> for months now, would i become a very good

exceptional astrologer.

I am

> attaching my chart and would like to know ur esteemed view.

>

> My time of birth is 9.46 am and rectified by

some to 9.55.23 or

9.58 the

> rectification was done on the basis of my

profession which is TV

industry as

> an Executive Producer (salaried).

>

> 11th May 1973 9.46 am, Bombay

>

> Well, Jupiter in the 8th is favourable for

intuition, as well as

him being

> lord of 10th house. However he is

debilitated, so a substantial

> strengthening of Jupiter is needed. So you

have some ability for

Jyotish.

> However in dasamsa Jupiter influences neither

of the 2nd, 5th, 8th

or 10th.

> Only Mercury is exalted in 10th. Therefore

becoming a professional

is not so

> likely.

>

> In D-24 you have more opportunities, however

the 4 planets Jupiter,

Mercury,

> Rahu and Ketu are in Badhaka sthana from the

5th house. So you are

able to

> learn Jyotish, however a lot of efforts are

required for this.

>

> 5. Can the VL be used to time job, if so yes

then how, i ask this

since VL

> is also indicator of profession as stated.

>

> According to Parasara, Varnada dasa is an

Ayur dasa, not Phalita.

So he

> gives examples of using it for timing the

longevity of the native

and his

> relatives. I am not aware of anyone using it

for timing changes in

job. I

> would recommend Kalacakra dasa or D-10

Narayana dasa. According to

Kalacakra

> dasa you have Pisces dasa from 2001 to 2011,

which has Jupiter in

own house

> in 4th in D-10. Looks like some

Jyotish-related activity may be

there, but

> it is more connected t home than to

workplace. In D-10 Narayana

dasa you

> have the same dasa beginning from 2006 to

2018. This may give the

same

> indications.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga@b...

>

Jyotish Remedies:

> Phone:

+36-309-140-839

>

> Thanking you,

>

> With blessings from Divine Mother

>

> Sunil John

>

> Mumbai

>

> P.S: Pls find my JHD chart attached. sorry

for my delayed reply, I

wanted to

> think cooly on VL before replying to u.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

>

> gauranga@b...

>

> Jyotish Remedies:

>

<http://us.ard./SIG=129np4jhg/M=298184.5022502.6152625.300117

>

> Phone: +36-309-140-839

>

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Correction:

Varëada Lagna would be in Aquarius incase of my Hora Lagna in Libra, hence

making the 11th there-from Sagittarius.

Yours,

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|Hare Räma

Kåñëa|

Dear Kasim,

Namaskar

Because of

this position some have thought that my Hora Lagna could be in Libra which

would change the Varëada Lagna to Sagittarius. But yes Jupiter’s

influence clearly indicates teaching.

Now try the

chart of Achyuta Dasa for the same. It’s attached in the mail. Try Hora

Lagna in both Aries and Taurus and see what you find.

Best wishes,

bold">Visti Larsen

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29 June 2004 11:12

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12.0pt">

Dear Visti,

I checked this 11th from VL in all the astrologer

charts i have and

it worked true except in Your case!

Your VL is in gemini. 11th lord from gemini is

mars. Your mars is in

leo and does get sign aspect by Jupiter.

So do we take it from this teaching jyotish will

be more suited to

you than actually practicing it as a profession?

Best wishes

Kasim

vedic astrology,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> As far as I have learnt, the Varëada Lagna

does not show abilities,

it shows

> that work which sustains you.

>

> In far most of the charts of astrologers I

have, its Venus or

Jupiter

> associated with 11th from Varëada lagna, and

in either case the

astrologer

> would either be a practitioner or a teacher,

respectively. I have a

chart of

> someone who tried to take on the profession

as an astrologer but

who didn't

> have Venus associated with the 11th from VL

– He wasn't very

successful and

> had to try new ways. Jupiter was associating

and people were quite

fond of

> his skills as a teacher of Jyotiña. Jupiter

is also a priest,

teacher, poet,

> singer, etc among varnas.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> _____

>

> Gauranga Das [gauranga@b...]

> 28 June 2004 18:27

> Sunil John

> [vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna

discussion with

Gauranga Das -

> exch 2

>

> -

>

> Sunil

<suniljohn_2004@h...> John

>

> gauranga@b...

>

> Friday, June 18, 2004 3:26 PM

>

> Varnada Lagna discussion with

Gauranga Das - exch 2

>

> Dear Gauranga,

>

> Thanks for ur mail, I had sent one short email but it

bounced back

since I

> had put capital G instead of small g.

>

> First and foremost I must thank you from my

heart for replying this

complex

> topic which no one has answered on the

list.If ur kind

self would

have

> chosen to replied on the list many would have

learned, but you may

have ur

> reasons although i feel that u should be more

active on the list

like old

> days.

>

> Pls find my subsequent queries below as SJ

>

> JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> Namaste.

>

> > 1. Can Varnada Lagna be used for seeing

the ability of Jyotish.

>

> Gauranga: The clue lies always in the lord of

the Varnada Lagna. If

he is

> associating

>

> with Jupiter or Ketu, then becoming a

professional astrologer is a

>

> possibility.

>

> SJ: A basic query here, If by associating, I

presume u are

referring to

> aspect or lordship. If it is aspect are u

also taking into account

rasi

> dristi, and if it is lordship, would the VL

being the owner of

Scorpio also

> contribute to Jyotish, and subsequently if we

have to see Jyotish

and hence

> Ketu, should we see who is stronger of Mars

and Ketu.

>

> In your case etu is functionally debilitated,

so Mars is actually

stronger.

> So he becomes the lord fo Varnada lagna. He

is in Aquarius in 9th

house, not

> associating with Jupiter. However VL in

Scorpio may still hold some

ability.

>

> > 2. What happens if Jup exalted and deb

have rasi dristi on VL.

>

> Gauranga: Exalted is better I suppose.

>

> SJ: Thanks, would ones Jyotish abilities

increase during the period

when

> during transit Jup or Ketu aspect the VL

>

> Yes, definitely, especially if they are weak

in the Janma Kundli,

then a

> strong transit position is very beneficial.

>

> > 3. What is the basic and esoteric

meaning of Varnada Lagna

>

> Gauranga: Varna-da, i.e. giver of varna (caste). would

inidcate the

external

> varna

>

> (caste) one belongs to or the profession one

would practice.

>

> SJ:Thanks

>

> > 4.What and how are its applications

>

> Details are given in Upadesa Sutras of

Jaimini.

>

> Gauranga: I think it is good, but gives only

a fragment of the

> possibilities. It would

>

> appear in someone's chart who is a

professional astrologer and

makes his

>

> living in this way. However for amateurs,

there may be other

indications,

>

> especially 2nd, 5th and 10th houses

influenced by Jupiter and

Mercury, in

>

> Rasi, D-10 and D-24, which may give a wide

variety of interests in

and

>

> commintment to Jyotish.

>

> SJ: Can I request u with a personal favor, I

have been thinking

about this

> for months now, would i become a very good

exceptional astrologer.

I am

> attaching my chart and would like to know ur esteemed view.

>

> My time of birth is 9.46 am and rectified by

some to 9.55.23 or

9.58 the

> rectification was done on the basis of my

profession which is TV

industry as

> an Executive Producer (salaried).

>

> 11th May 1973 9.46 am, Bombay

>

> Well, Jupiter in the 8th is favourable for

intuition, as well as

him being

> lord of 10th house. However he is

debilitated, so a substantial

> strengthening of Jupiter is needed. So you

have some ability for

Jyotish.

> However in dasamsa Jupiter influences neither

of the 2nd, 5th, 8th

or 10th.

> Only Mercury is exalted in 10th. Therefore

becoming a professional

is not so

> likely.

>

> In D-24 you have more opportunities, however

the 4 planets Jupiter,

Mercury,

> Rahu and Ketu are in Badhaka sthana from the

5th house. So you are

able to

> learn Jyotish, however a lot of efforts are

required for this.

>

> 5. Can the VL be used to time job, if so yes

then how, i ask this

since VL

> is also indicator of profession as stated.

>

> According to Parasara, Varnada dasa is an

Ayur dasa, not Phalita.

So he

> gives examples of using it for timing the

longevity of the native

and his

> relatives. I am not aware of anyone using it

for timing changes in

job. I

> would recommend Kalacakra dasa or D-10

Narayana dasa. According to

Kalacakra

> dasa you have Pisces dasa from 2001 to 2011,

which has Jupiter in

own house

> in 4th in D-10. Looks like some

Jyotish-related activity may be

there, but

> it is more connected t home than to

workplace. In D-10 Narayana

dasa you

> have the same dasa beginning from 2006 to

2018. This may give the

same

> indications.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga@b...

>

Jyotish Remedies:

> Phone:

+36-309-140-839

>

> Thanking you,

>

> With blessings from Divine Mother

>

> Sunil John

>

> Mumbai

>

> P.S: Pls find my JHD chart attached. sorry

for my delayed reply, I

wanted to

> think cooly on VL before replying to u.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

>

> gauranga@b...

>

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Dear Kasim

Even in my chart the 11th Lord from VL nor the 11th house from VL has any

sign aspect from Jupiter. I think it should be Mercury that we are looking

at.

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com

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Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:42 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga Das -

exch 2

Dear Visti,

I checked this 11th from VL in all the astrologer charts i have and

it worked true except in Your case!

Your VL is in gemini. 11th lord from gemini is mars. Your mars is in

leo and does get sign aspect by Jupiter.

So do we take it from this teaching jyotish will be more suited to

you than actually practicing it as a profession?

Best wishes

Kasim

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> As far as I have learnt, the Varëada Lagna does not show abilities,

it shows

> that work which sustains you.

>

> In far most of the charts of astrologers I have, its Venus or

Jupiter

> associated with 11th from Varëada lagna, and in either case the

astrologer

> would either be a practitioner or a teacher, respectively. I have a

chart of

> someone who tried to take on the profession as an astrologer but

who didn't

> have Venus associated with the 11th from VL – He wasn't very

successful and

> had to try new ways. Jupiter was associating and people were quite

fond of

> his skills as a teacher of Jyotiña. Jupiter is also a priest,

teacher, poet,

> singer, etc among varnas.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

_____

>

> Gauranga Das [gauranga@b...]

> 28 June 2004 18:27

> Sunil John

> [vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna discussion with

Gauranga Das -

> exch 2

>

> -

>

> Sunil <suniljohn_2004@h...> John

>

> gauranga@b...

>

> Friday, June 18, 2004 3:26 PM

>

> Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga Das - exch 2

>

> Dear Gauranga,

>

> Thanks for ur mail, I had sent one short email but it bounced back

since I

> had put capital G instead of small g.

>

> First and foremost I must thank you from my heart for replying this

complex

> topic which no one has answered on the list.If ur kind self would

have

> chosen to replied on the list many would have learned, but you may

have ur

> reasons although i feel that u should be more active on the list

like old

> days.

>

> Pls find my subsequent queries below as SJ

>

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

>

> Dear Sunil,

>

> Namaste.

>

> > 1. Can Varnada Lagna be used for seeing the ability of Jyotish.

>

> Gauranga: The clue lies always in the lord of the Varnada Lagna. If

he is

> associating

>

> with Jupiter or Ketu, then becoming a professional astrologer is a

>

> possibility.

>

> SJ: A basic query here, If by associating, I presume u are

referring to

> aspect or lordship. If it is aspect are u also taking into account

rasi

> dristi, and if it is lordship, would the VL being the owner of

Scorpio also

> contribute to Jyotish, and subsequently if we have to see Jyotish

and hence

> Ketu, should we see who is stronger of Mars and Ketu.

>

> In your case etu is functionally debilitated, so Mars is actually

stronger.

> So he becomes the lord fo Varnada lagna. He is in Aquarius in 9th

house, not

> associating with Jupiter. However VL in Scorpio may still hold some

ability.

>

> > 2. What happens if Jup exalted and deb have rasi dristi on VL.

>

> Gauranga: Exalted is better I suppose.

>

> SJ: Thanks, would ones Jyotish abilities increase during the period

when

> during transit Jup or Ketu aspect the VL

>

> Yes, definitely, especially if they are weak in the Janma Kundli,

then a

> strong transit position is very beneficial.

>

> > 3. What is the basic and esoteric meaning of Varnada Lagna

>

> Gauranga: Varna-da, i.e. giver of varna (caste). would inidcate the

external

> varna

>

> (caste) one belongs to or the profession one would practice.

>

> SJ:Thanks

>

> > 4.What and how are its applications

>

> Details are given in Upadesa Sutras of Jaimini.

>

> Gauranga: I think it is good, but gives only a fragment of the

> possibilities. It would

>

> appear in someone's chart who is a professional astrologer and

makes his

>

> living in this way. However for amateurs, there may be other

indications,

>

> especially 2nd, 5th and 10th houses influenced by Jupiter and

Mercury, in

>

> Rasi, D-10 and D-24, which may give a wide variety of interests in

and

>

> commintment to Jyotish.

>

> SJ: Can I request u with a personal favor, I have been thinking

about this

> for months now, would i become a very good exceptional astrologer.

I am

> attaching my chart and would like to know ur esteemed view.

>

> My time of birth is 9.46 am and rectified by some to 9.55.23 or

9.58 the

> rectification was done on the basis of my profession which is TV

industry as

> an Executive Producer (salaried).

>

> 11th May 1973 9.46 am, Bombay

>

> Well, Jupiter in the 8th is favourable for intuition, as well as

him being

> lord of 10th house. However he is debilitated, so a substantial

> strengthening of Jupiter is needed. So you have some ability for

Jyotish.

> However in dasamsa Jupiter influences neither of the 2nd, 5th, 8th

or 10th.

> Only Mercury is exalted in 10th. Therefore becoming a professional

is not so

> likely.

>

> In D-24 you have more opportunities, however the 4 planets Jupiter,

Mercury,

> Rahu and Ketu are in Badhaka sthana from the 5th house. So you are

able to

> learn Jyotish, however a lot of efforts are required for this.

>

> 5. Can the VL be used to time job, if so yes then how, i ask this

since VL

> is also indicator of profession as stated.

>

> According to Parasara, Varnada dasa is an Ayur dasa, not Phalita.

So he

> gives examples of using it for timing the longevity of the native

and his

> relatives. I am not aware of anyone using it for timing changes in

job. I

> would recommend Kalacakra dasa or D-10 Narayana dasa. According to

Kalacakra

> dasa you have Pisces dasa from 2001 to 2011, which has Jupiter in

own house

> in 4th in D-10. Looks like some Jyotish-related activity may be

there, but

> it is more connected t home than to workplace. In D-10 Narayana

dasa you

> have the same dasa beginning from 2006 to 2018. This may give the

same

> indications.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> gauranga@b...

> Jyotish Remedies:

> Phone: +36-309-140-839

>

Thanking you,

>

> With blessings from Divine Mother

>

> Sunil John

>

> Mumbai

>

> P.S: Pls find my JHD chart attached. sorry for my delayed reply, I

wanted to

> think cooly on VL before replying to u.

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

>

> gauranga@b...

>

> Jyotish Remedies:

>

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Dear Visti

The rasi of the 11th lord or sign whichever is a stronger influence, is

vital as it defines the direction of the karma. To worship the adhi devata

of this planet shall surely bring lots of oppotunities for good karma yoga.

There are many charts that have Venus & Jup associated with the 11th from VL

and yet they are not astrologers. So the sign is important as well.

Also guru does aspect the 11th lord from VL in your chart, and so does

MERCURY. So keep writing.

With best regards,

Sanjay Rath

SJC Puri, 212 Gopal Ballav Road, Puri 752001, India

Tel: +91.6752.226269 http://srath.com

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"Visti Larsen" <visti

Cc: <suniljohn_2004

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 12:33 AM

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga

Das - exch 2

|Hare Räma Kåñëa|

Dear Sunil,

As far as I have learnt, the Varëada Lagna does not show abilities, it shows

that work which sustains you.

In far most of the charts of astrologers I have, its Venus or Jupiter

associated with 11th from Varëada lagna, and in either case the astrologer

would either be a practitioner or a teacher, respectively. I have a chart of

someone who tried to take on the profession as an astrologer but who didn’t

have Venus associated with the 11th from VL – He wasn’t very successful and

had to try new ways. Jupiter was associating and people were quite fond of

his skills as a teacher of Jyotiña. Jupiter is also a priest, teacher, poet,

singer, etc among varnas.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

<visti visti

_____

Gauranga Das [gauranga]

28 June 2004 18:27

Sunil John

[vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga Das -

exch 2

-

Sunil <suniljohn_2004 John

gauranga

Friday, June 18, 2004 3:26 PM

Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga Das - exch 2

Dear Gauranga,

Thanks for ur mail, I had sent one short email but it bounced back since I

had put capital G instead of small g.

First and foremost I must thank you from my heart for replying this complex

topic which no one has answered on the list.If ur kind self would have

chosen to replied on the list many would have learned, but you may have ur

reasons although i feel that u should be more active on the list like old

days.

Pls find my subsequent queries below as SJ

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Sunil,

Namaste.

> 1. Can Varnada Lagna be used for seeing the ability of Jyotish.

Gauranga: The clue lies always in the lord of the Varnada Lagna. If he is

associating

with Jupiter or Ketu, then becoming a professional astrologer is a

possibility.

SJ: A basic query here, If by associating, I presume u are referring to

aspect or lordship. If it is aspect are u also taking into account rasi

dristi, and if it is lordship, would the VL being the owner of Scorpio also

contribute to Jyotish, and subsequently if we have to see Jyotish and hence

Ketu, should we see who is stronger of Mars and Ketu.

In your case etu is functionally debilitated, so Mars is actually stronger.

So he becomes the lord fo Varnada lagna. He is in Aquarius in 9th house, not

associating with Jupiter. However VL in Scorpio may still hold some ability.

> 2. What happens if Jup exalted and deb have rasi dristi on VL.

Gauranga: Exalted is better I suppose.

SJ: Thanks, would ones Jyotish abilities increase during the period when

during transit Jup or Ketu aspect the VL

Yes, definitely, especially if they are weak in the Janma Kundli, then a

strong transit position is very beneficial.

> 3. What is the basic and esoteric meaning of Varnada Lagna

Gauranga: Varna-da, i.e. giver of varna (caste). would inidcate the external

varna

(caste) one belongs to or the profession one would practice.

SJ:Thanks

> 4.What and how are its applications

Details are given in Upadesa Sutras of Jaimini.

Gauranga: I think it is good, but gives only a fragment of the

possibilities. It would

appear in someone's chart who is a professional astrologer and makes his

living in this way. However for amateurs, there may be other indications,

especially 2nd, 5th and 10th houses influenced by Jupiter and Mercury, in

Rasi, D-10 and D-24, which may give a wide variety of interests in and

commintment to Jyotish.

SJ: Can I request u with a personal favor, I have been thinking about this

for months now, would i become a very good exceptional astrologer. I am

attaching my chart and would like to know ur esteemed view.

My time of birth is 9.46 am and rectified by some to 9.55.23 or 9.58 the

rectification was done on the basis of my profession which is TV industry as

an Executive Producer (salaried).

11th May 1973 9.46 am, Bombay

Well, Jupiter in the 8th is favourable for intuition, as well as him being

lord of 10th house. However he is debilitated, so a substantial

strengthening of Jupiter is needed. So you have some ability for Jyotish.

However in dasamsa Jupiter influences neither of the 2nd, 5th, 8th or 10th.

Only Mercury is exalted in 10th. Therefore becoming a professional is not so

likely.

In D-24 you have more opportunities, however the 4 planets Jupiter, Mercury,

Rahu and Ketu are in Badhaka sthana from the 5th house. So you are able to

learn Jyotish, however a lot of efforts are required for this.

5. Can the VL be used to time job, if so yes then how, i ask this since VL

is also indicator of profession as stated.

According to Parasara, Varnada dasa is an Ayur dasa, not Phalita. So he

gives examples of using it for timing the longevity of the native and his

relatives. I am not aware of anyone using it for timing changes in job. I

would recommend Kalacakra dasa or D-10 Narayana dasa. According to Kalacakra

dasa you have Pisces dasa from 2001 to 2011, which has Jupiter in own house

in 4th in D-10. Looks like some Jyotish-related activity may be there, but

it is more connected t home than to workplace. In D-10 Narayana dasa you

have the same dasa beginning from 2006 to 2018. This may give the same

indications.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

gauranga

Jyotish Remedies:

Phone: +36-309-140-839

Thanking you,

With blessings from Divine Mother

Sunil John

Mumbai

P.S: Pls find my JHD chart attached. sorry for my delayed reply, I wanted to

think cooly on VL before replying to u.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

gauranga

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Dear Visti Ji,

Thank you very much for the clarification!

May I ask you advise where could I look (in internet or

in a book) for an additional information about VL calculation and interpretation?

Yours truly,

Youry

|| Jai Guru Dev ||

"Visti Larsen"

06/29/2004 02:16 AM

To

cc

Subject

RE: [vedic astrology] Re:

Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga Das - exch 2

|Hare Räma Kåñëa´

Dear Youry, Namaskar

Try calculating the Varëada Lagna without the use of degrees.

i.e. Lagna is Aries and Hora Lagna is also Aries – both

odd. So 1+1=2, and this must be the 2nd from Aries because Lagna

is in an odd sign. Hence Taurus is the Varëada Lagna. The 11th

there-from has Jupiter in Pisces.

The person will also understand Jyotiña quite well as

Ätmakäraka is in the 11th house from Lagna, and be quite good

with predictions as Mars and Sun are very strong in Kendra – Ruchaka Mahäpüruña

Yoga. These are very strong combinations.

Best wishes,

[iMAGE]

Visti Larsen

khmelevsky (AT) acm (DOT) org [khmelevsky (AT) acm (DOT) org]

29 June 2004 02:45

Visti Larsen

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna

discussion with Gauranga Das - exch 2

OmHoom Ram Chaitanyayai

Namah!

Dear Visti Ji,

Could you advice please, is it make sense for this person:

1 Feb 1964;10:43:34; 48N19; 38E17; TZ+3:00 to continue Jyotish study(the

JHD file is attached)?

He has Ke and Me in 11 from VL ( Gu is Lord of Bhava),

but he has no Sk nor Gu direct drishti from VL in Rasi. In D-10 he has

drishti from Gu (which is in the 1st Bhava)to 5th (in which is SK)and he

has Bu in the 2nd Bhava. Would he understand Jyotish deeply at least for

himself only, if he can't be a practitioner or a teacher?

Yours truly,

Youry

Jai Guru Dev

"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org>

06/28/200401:03 PM

To

cc

<suniljohn_2004 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

Subject

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Varnada Lagna discussion with

Gauranga Das - exch 2

|Hare Räma Kåñëa|

Dear Sunil,

As far as I have learnt, the Varëada Lagna does not show

abilities, it shows that work which sustains you.

In far most of the charts of astrologers I have, its Venus

or Jupiter associated with 11th from Varëada lagna, and in either

case the astrologer would either be a practitioner or a teacher, respectively.

I have a chart of someone who tried to take on the profession as an astrologer

but who didn’t have Venus associated with the 11th from VL

– He wasn’t very successful and had to try new ways. Jupiter was associating

and people were quite fond of his skills as a teacher of Jyotiña. Jupiter

is also a priest, teacher, poet, singer, etc among varnas.

Best wishes,

[iMAGE]

Visti Larsen

Gauranga Das [gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net]

Sent:28 June 2004 18:27

To:Sunil John

Cc:vedic astrology

Subject:[vedic astrology] Re:

Varnada Lagna discussion with Gauranga Das - exch 2

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Sunil John

To:gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

Sent:Friday, June 18, 20043:26

PM

Subject:Varnada Lagna discussion

with Gauranga Das - exch 2

Dear Gauranga,

Thanks for urmail, I had sent one short email but

it bounced back since I had put capital G instead of small g.

First and foremost I must thank you from my heart

for replying this complex topic which no one has answered on the list.If

urkind self would have chosen to replied on the list many would have learned,

but you may have urreasons although i feel that u should be more active

on the list like old days.

Pls find my subsequent queries below as SJ

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Sunil,

Namaste.

> 1. Can Varnada Lagna be used for seeing the ability

of Jyotish.

Gauranga: The clue lies always in the lord of the Varnada

Lagna. If he is associating

with Jupiter or Ketu, then becoming a professional astrologer

is a

possibility.

SJ: A basic query here, If by associating, I presume

u are referring to aspect or lordship. If it is aspect are u also taking

into account rasi dristi, and if it is lordship, would the VL being the

owner of Scorpio also contribute to Jyotish, and subsequently if we have

to see Jyotish and hence Ketu, should we see who is stronger of Mars and

Ketu.

In your case etu is functionally debilitated, so Mars

is actually stronger. So he becomes the lord fo Varnada lagna. He is in

Aquarius in 9th house, not associating with Jupiter. However VL in Scorpio

may still hold some ability.

> 2. What happens if Jup exalted and deb have rasi

dristi on VL.

Gauranga: Exalted is better I suppose.

SJ: Thanks, would ones Jyotish abilities increase

during the period when during transit Jup or Ketu aspect the VL

Yes, definitely, especially if they are weak in the Janma

Kundli, then a strong transit position is very beneficial.

> 3. What is the basic and esoteric meaning of Varnada

Lagna

Gauranga: Varna-da, i.e. giver of varna(caste). would

inidcate the external varna

(caste) one belongs to or the profession one would practice.

SJ:Thanks

> 4.What and how are its applications

Details are given in Upadesa Sutras of Jaimini.

Gauranga: I think it is good, but gives only a fragment

of the possibilities. It would

appear in someone's chart who is a professional astrologer

and makes his

living in this way. However for amateurs, there may be

other indications,

especially 2nd, 5th and 10th houses influenced by Jupiter

and Mercury, in

Rasi, D-10 and D-24, which may give a wide variety of

interests in and

commintment to Jyotish.

SJ: Can I request u with a personal favor, I have

been thinking about this for months now, would i become a very good exceptional

astrologer. I am attaching my chart and would like to know uresteemed view.

My time of birth is 9.46 am and rectified by some

to 9.55.23 or 9.58 the rectification was done on the basis of my profession

which is TV industry as an Executive Producer (salaried).

11th May 1973 9.46 am, Bombay

Well, Jupiter in the 8th is favourable for intuition,

as well as him being lord of 10th house. However he is debilitated, so

a substantial strengthening of Jupiter is needed. So you have

some ability for Jyotish. However in dasamsa Jupiter influences neither

of the 2nd, 5th, 8th or 10th. Only Mercury is exalted in 10th. Therefore

becoming a professional is not so likely.

In D-24 you have more opportunities, however the 4 planets

Jupiter, Mercury, Rahu and Ketu are in Badhaka sthana from the 5th house.

So you are able to learn Jyotish, however a lot of efforts are required

for this.

5. Can the VL be used to time job, if so yes then

how, i ask this since VL is also indicator of profession as stated.

According to Parasara, Varnada dasa is an Ayur dasa, not

Phalita. So he gives examples of using it for timing the longevity of the

native and his relatives. I am not aware of anyone using it for timing

changes in job. I would recommend Kalacakra dasa or D-10 Narayana dasa.

According to Kalacakra dasa you have Pisces dasa from 2001 to 2011, which

has Jupiter in own house in 4th in D-10. Looks like some Jyotish-related

activity may be there, but it is more connected t home than to workplace.

In D-10 Narayana dasa you have the same dasa beginning from 2006 to

2018. This may give the same indications.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

Phone: +36-309-140-839

Thanking you,

With blessings from Divine Mother

Sunil John

Mumbai

P.S: Pls find my JHD chart attached. sorry for my

delayed reply, I wanted to think cooly on VL before replying to u.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

Jyotish Remedies:

Phone: +36-309-140-839

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