Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Dear "nameisego", The equivalent of what you are trying to say below is like one going into a surgery on the assumption that all doctors are alike and logical and well versed in medical practise therefore you can afford to go in for surgery without even seeing who the doctor is when you have a chance to do so before hand. Needless to say the answer is clear. No. You will never put yourself to such a risk. This is because your medical case could be very personal and specific. A generic "logical" assumption will not apply here to you and you would never want to take a risk like that. Vedic Astrology is very much like that. It depends on context, person's upbringing and background. You cannot apply a generic anonymous rule without trying to understand where and from whom it came in the first place. Without this words like "a fine astrologer" mean nothing. It could be as well that anonymous surgeon whom you have never seen. Thats why we emphasize the uniqueness of each chart so much. Moon & nakshatra is so important for each person because that almost defines the entire world as seen from their point of view. In short that is their world into which they wake up each day and go back to sleep every night. Its never the same for two or more persons. Applying material logic based on material frame of reference may not help you in any manner. Vedic Astrology does not even attempt to define anything as being standard across a human boundary. Its all about your own world as seen and realized by your own consciousness. It has nothing to do with anyone or anything even outside your mind or physical body. Its all about you. So abstract questions, with philosophical tinge will not help you much. Try to see why you are being made to think so in the first place ? Logical reasoning works only if that logic itself is defined with a frame of reference. For economists, that frame is the entire world economic system. They do not bother about who is selling cheese on Moon because it does not matter to them as of today. In Vedic Astrology we can define that boundary as your soul's origin and destination ( neither of which we know as of today by known means ). So the logical foundation itself is undefined. Hence, "scientific" priciples of "material world" cannot be applied with accuracy unless you know what you are really trying to look at. I am sure there are lots of volunteers who will be willing to give you a reading if you want to share your birth info in this list. Regards, Raju > vedic astrology, "nameisego" <nameisego> > wrote: > Dear Sri Narsimhaji, > > A lot has been written about the undersigned. > It does not hurt but the people should know > that the exercise is not without point. > A fine astrologer has written the following > about astrology and rational approach, > > "Astrology of today has too much dirt and > we cannot just sweep the dirt under the > carpet.As there are many obstacles here. > But we should do the best we can. Only a scientific > and rational approach willhelp us unravel > the secrets of the teachings of maharshis. > > There are topics in astrology that, at least > from my point of view, need tobe explored in > a manner that will bring us to a conscensus > on methodologies. > > Those methodologies should give us reliable > results. This is one of the great gifts of > this forum, and finally I feel I can explore > and share with other astrologers some areas of > judgement that for me need refinement." > > An effort is on by this being to adopt a > rational approach. > Anything wrong with that? > Question is What is rational ? > Only Logical reasoning can be rational. > > If such efforts are not PROPER? > then what is proper? > > > Tatvam-Asi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Dear "nameisego", The equivalent of what you are trying to say below is like one going into a surgery on the assumption that all doctors are alike and logical and well versed in medical practise therefore you can afford to go in for surgery without even seeing who the doctor is when you have a chance to do so before hand. Needless to say the answer is clear. No. You will never put yourself to such a risk. This is because your medical case could be very personal and specific. A generic "logical" assumption will not apply here to you and you would never want to take a risk like that. Vedic Astrology is very much like that. It depends on context, person's upbringing and background. You cannot apply a generic anonymous rule without trying to understand where and from whom it came in the first place. Without this words like "a fine astrologer" mean nothing. It could be as well that anonymous surgeon whom you have never seen. Thats why we emphasize the uniqueness of each chart so much. Moon & nakshatra is so important for each person because that almost defines the entire world as seen from their point of view. In short that is their world into which they wake up each day and go back to sleep every night. Its never the same for two or more persons. Applying material logic based on material frame of reference may not help you in any manner. Vedic Astrology does not even attempt to define anything as being standard across a human boundary. Its all about your own world as seen and realized by your own consciousness. It has nothing to do with anyone or anything even outside your mind or physical body. Its all about you. So abstract questions, with philosophical tinge will not help you much. Try to see why you are being made to think so in the first place ? Logical reasoning works only if that logic itself is defined with a frame of reference. For economists, that frame is the entire world economic system. They do not bother about who is selling cheese on Moon because it does not matter to them as of today. In Vedic Astrology we can define that boundary as your soul's origin and destination ( neither of which we know as of today by known means ). So the logical foundation itself is undefined. Hence, "scientific" priciples of "material world" cannot be applied with accuracy unless you know what you are really trying to look at. I am sure there are lots of volunteers who will be willing to give you a reading if you want to share your birth info in this list. Regards, Raju vedic astrology, "nameisego" <nameisego> wrote: > Dear Sri Narsimhaji, > > A lot has been written about the undersigned. > It does not hurt but the people should know > that the exercise is not without point. > A fine astrologer has written the following > about astrology and rational approach, > > "Astrology of today has too much dirt and > we cannot just sweep the dirt under the > carpet.As there are many obstacles here. > But we should do the best we can. Only a scientific > and rational approach willhelp us unravel > the secrets of the teachings of maharshis. > > There are topics in astrology that, at least > from my point of view, need tobe explored in > a manner that will bring us to a conscensus > on methodologies. > > Those methodologies should give us reliable > results. This is one of the great gifts of > this forum, and finally I feel I can explore > and share with other astrologers some areas of > judgement that for me need refinement." > > An effort is on by this being to adopt a > rational approach. > Anything wrong with that? > Question is What is rational ? > Only Logical reasoning can be rational. > > If such efforts are not PROPER? > then what is proper? > > > Tatvam-Asi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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