which planet has inflicted death? To Nameisego

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Hello Nameisego:

 

More thoughts on the dictum you just told us about--

 

Logically thinking, it appears that this dictum is a bit

unfair/lopsided/abnormal, here is why:

 

1) What if there are 4 planets in one house in Navamsha and Saturn

transits this bhava--won't FOUR houses represented by these planet

get destroyed at the same time--this native's life will be destroyed?

 

2) What if planets in Navamsha are located in a Grah-Mallika type

formation? In this case, the native will have NO houses destroyed for

12.5 year as there are NO planets located in the house that Saturn is

transiting and ONE house will be destroyed every 2.5 years for the

next 17.5 years as there is a planet located in each of these houses?

 

The dictum you quoted is sexy, but seems to be very unfair and

unusual.

 

Even in the Vimshottari dasa system (whoever invented it--Parashara

or Jaimini), an element of fairness has been woven in, i.e. after the

dasa of the greatest malefic Rahu is the dasa of the greatest benefic

Jupiter and after dasa of mediocre malefice Sun is the dasa of

medicore benefic Moon (I'm not considering functional status here).

 

So where is the fairness to the native in the dictum you told us.

 

Mr. Nameisego, I'm taking baby-steps at learning Vedic astrology so

please don't be offended by my questions--I question every dictum

that doesn't make any logical sense irrespective of the author/finder

of that dictum.

 

Respectfully,

Mukund

 

 

vedic astrology, "nameisego" <nameisego>

wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> Just a little time back, a posting about Saturn's transit over

amsha

> position was made by the undersigned. An example of third lord's

> amasha position is also given.

>

> To refresh the memory please read the following ,

> .

> The person who collapsed while giving lecture is yet another case

> where Nadi's rule holds true.

>

> DOB 22.12.1949 TOB 02.06 a.m Longitude 80E2

> Latitude

> 14N17 5.30 East of GMT

> Death

> 20.06.2004 at around 3.00 p.m

>

> 3rd house is 8th from 8th .8th is Ayushya. 8th from that is

> Destruction of the bhava.

>

> The person is born in Tula Lagna

> Mark 3rd lord Jupiter is in Mesha Navamsha at birth.

> Mark Saturn in Mesha Navamsha on the day of death.!!

>

> Remarkable isn't it ?

>

> TATTADBHAVASHTMANSHE GOCHARE SHANI STHITE (or sansthite ?)

> TATTATDBHAVA VINASHENA KLESHAM PRAPNOTI BHURISHA. ( DK Part 2,sloka

> 1014)

> Meaning,

> From a given bhava, look for the

> navamsha sign position of the 8th lord from that bhava.

> Whenever Saturn transits this navamsha,

> it will cause destruction and grief to the mentioned bhava.

>

> Most of the times. answers are found faster with simple methods.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, Lakshman Brahma

> <lbrahma> wrote:

> > Dear Mukund

> > 3rd from AL also denotes sorroundings about death.

> > this is another aspect of 3rd from AL. Malefics there

> > can give unnatural or painful death to a person. At

> > the same time the malefics in 3/6th from AL makes one

> > bold where as benefics there makes one coward.

> > You will find gurudeva Sanjayji explaining this in

> > example of chart of Gandhi in one of his Books.

> >

> > Lakshman

> >

> >

> > --- monmuk111 <monmuk111> wrote:

> > > Hello Visti:

> > >

> > > Your note says "Rahu in 3rd from AL causes sudden

> > > unnatural death."

> > >

> > > Now, I very clearly remember reading in one of

> > > Sanjay's book's

> > > that "A malefic located in 3rd or 6th from AL

> > > becomes a great

> > > protector and it destroys the enemies of the

> > > native."

> > >

> > > Can you please reconcile the statement you made with

> > > the dictum given

> > > by Sanjay? (I'm in my office right now, but I can

> > > give you the name

> > > of this book and Pg.# tomorrow).

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > > Mukund

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, "Visti

> > > Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > |Hare Rama Krsna|

> > > > Dear dkvrao,

> > > > Using Vimshottari Dasa, always pay attention to

> > > Gulika or the

> > > Mrityu Sphuta

> > > > when timing death. Gulika is in Anuradha Nakñatra

> > > which is lorded

> > > by Saturn.

> > > > Hence Saturn Dasa will act like Gulika Dasa and

> > > can be death

> > > inflicting.

> > > >

> > > > As for Mrityu Sputa, the native is born during the

> > > night, so we add

> > > the

> > > > longitudes of Rähu and Moon and arrive at Poorva

> > > Ashada Nakñatra

> > > lorded by

> > > > Venus - this did not give death in his case.

> > > >

> > > > Now if you look at the Ärüòha Lagna in Capricorn

> > > and see the cause

> > > of death

> > > > - Rähu in 3rd from AL (sudden death, unnatural)

> > > and Saturn in 8th

> > > from AL

> > > > (disease, sorrow, etc) are competing to kill the

> > > native.

> > > >

> > > > Saturn won, and is placed in Leo indicating heart

> > > disease and hence

> > > Saturn

> > > > Dasa. Saturn is lording Ärüòha Lagna and is placed

> > > in the 8th there

> > > from,

> > > > hence he performed an action which was

> > > risk-taking. Jupiter and

> > > Venus in

> > > > Ärüòha lagna sees Saturn, hence he and his family

> > > knew about the

> > > risk he was

> > > > taking but he took it anyway.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Visti Larsen

> > > > visti@s...

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > rao vasudevadk [dkv_rao]

> > > > 25 June 2004 13:12

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > [vedic astrology] which planet has

> > > inflicted death?????

> > > >

> > > > SRI RAMA RAMA RAMAETI

> > > > ----------------------

> > > > Dear List,

> > > >

> > > > I am giving birth/death details of a well noted

> > > person

> > > > in the Banking Circle both in the State of Andhra

> > > > Pradesh and as well in India. The native was well

> > > > educated, a Bank employee, became a union leader

> > > of

> > > > the largest Bank, step by step grown to become

> > > state

> > > > leader and represented national bank employees for

> > > > over 4 years. He was a good orator, some times

> > > witty

> > > > and some times aggressive, have a charisma of

> > > > attracting crowd, collapsed on 20.06.2004 at

> > > around

> > > > 3.00 pm while delivering yet a forceful speech

> > > among a

> > > > large gathering of Bank employees. The death was

> > > > sudden.

> > > >

> > > > Brief details of the native : An average height of

> > > > 56, not so dark complexion, father died at

> > > small

> > > > age, mother still alive, have two children, one

> > > male

> > > > and one female, both settled well, not earned much

> > > > except owning an apartment at Hyderabad, a

> > > diabetic, a

> > > > foot ball player.

> > > >

> > > > Birth

> > > > DOB 22.12.1949 TOB 02.06 a.m Longitude 80E2

> > > Latitude

> > > > 14N17 5.30 East of GMT

> > > > Death

> > > > 20.06.2004 at around 3.00 p.m

> > > >

> > > > For academic knowledge, can any one analyse which

> > > > planet has inflicted death to the above native?

> > > >

> > > > Is it Yogakaraka Saturn, or Lagna Lord Venus(for

> > > > having 8th lord-ship) or Transit of Rahu in7th

> > > from

> > > > Lagna having aspect of 2nd/7th lord Mars in birth

> > > > Chart. Can Lagna Lord become a Maraka? Please

> > > clarify

> > > > my doubts.

> > > >

> > > > With regards

> > > > dkvrao

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[Guest guest]

Dear Mukund ji,

 

The stress is on the LORD OD 8TH HOUSE FROM THE BHAVA and not number

of planets in a bhava.

It is possible that more than one planet may be in same amsha .

In such a case, Saturn's passing over that amsha would cause grief

about all the bhavas concerned.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

People who learn to walk with baby steps go far.

(It makes two of us)

People who do it on a fast track are more prone to CRASH. !!

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "monmuk111" <monmuk111>

wrote:

> Hello Nameisego:

>

> More thoughts on the dictum you just told us about--

>

> Logically thinking, it appears that this dictum is a bit

> unfair/lopsided/abnormal, here is why:

>

> 1) What if there are 4 planets in one house in Navamsha and Saturn

> transits this bhava--won't FOUR houses represented by these planet

> get destroyed at the same time--this native's life will be

destroyed?

>

> 2) What if planets in Navamsha are located in a Grah-Mallika type

> formation? In this case, the native will have NO houses destroyed

for

> 12.5 year as there are NO planets located in the house that Saturn

is

> transiting and ONE house will be destroyed every 2.5 years for the

> next 17.5 years as there is a planet located in each of these

houses?

>

> The dictum you quoted is sexy, but seems to be very unfair and

> unusual.

>

> Even in the Vimshottari dasa system (whoever invented it--Parashara

> or Jaimini), an element of fairness has been woven in, i.e. after

the

> dasa of the greatest malefic Rahu is the dasa of the greatest

benefic

> Jupiter and after dasa of mediocre malefice Sun is the dasa of

> medicore benefic Moon (I'm not considering functional status here).

>

> So where is the fairness to the native in the dictum you told us.

>

> Mr. Nameisego, I'm taking baby-steps at learning Vedic astrology so

> please don't be offended by my questions--I question every dictum

> that doesn't make any logical sense irrespective of the

author/finder

> of that dictum.

>

> Respectfully,

> Mukund

>

>

>