Varnada Lagna discussion with Shri Visti ..Doubt

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Dear Friend,

 

Hare Krsna.

Please excuse for the ignorence .... as undersigned is getting to

learn about vernada lagna and other finer points; and for the chart

of Lata Mangeshkar self is getting Vernada Lagna as Meena 12.24 as

per JHL.as per the birth data furnished; whereas you have mentioned

it as Vrishabha.

What Ayanmsha are you using ?

Thanks in advance.

 

Ttavam-Asi

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Sunil, Namaskar

>

> A quote from a book;

>

>

>

> …the professions or status/positions the native takes on are seen

from the

> Lagna and Ärüòha Lagna. Here it is pertinent to understand that ones

> profession and occupation are two separate things; Business

psychologists

> deal with the behavior of clients towards products, whilst private

> psychologists help people out of their mental abnormalities.

However; in

> both cases the profession/title is that of a psychologist, hence the

> differentiation.

>

> * Planets joining, lording and/or having Räçi dåñöi on the

Lagna or

> Ärüòha Lagna will indicate which traits the native identifies

themselves

> with and hence which professions they will enter.

> * If the identified grahas are also in trines in the Navämça,

those

> professions will last.

>

>

> Examples

>

>

> Chart 112: Lata Mangeskar – Singer (September 28, 1929, 22:30:00,

5:30:00

> (East of GMT)( 75 E 50', 22 N 43'))

>

> Let us identify the profession of this native.

>

> The Varëada lagna is in Taurus, and the 11th from it is unoccupied.

The lord

> Jupiter indicates the main profession as a Brahmin. This could be a

teacher,

> priest, singer, actor, writer, etc.

>

> Now let us list out the planets which associate with the Lagna and

Ärüòha

> lagna. Jupiter, Moon, Mars the nodes and Venus associate with the

lagna and

> Ärüòha lagna.

>

> Among these, Jupiter, Ketu and the Moon are placed in the trines to

Navämça

> lagna. Jupiter can indicate a profession as a teacher, ketu as a

> mathematician however Ketu in 6th will not prove auspicious, whilst

Moon

> indicates a profession as a singer or vocalist.

>

> Among these the moon is strongest due to its position in own sign,

and will

> dominate due to the native finding most comfort (Svakñetra) in that

> profession.

>

>

>

> I also taught this in the Nagpur conference – this was taught by

Guruji in

> New Jersey 2003 and in Puri 2004.

>

> Best wishes,

>

Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

_____

>

> Sunil John [jjnet2000_in]

> 30 June 2004 08:36

> vedic astrology

> Cc: visti@s...

> Varnada Lagna discussion with Shri Visti

>

>

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Pranam

>

> Thanks for ur compassionate reply, pls find my humble queries below

>

> Dear Shri Visti,

> Namaskar

>

> Thanks for making this an interesting discussion. Pls allow me to

ask

> some basic queries.

> 1.Is the formula given by you different to what's used in JHL

>

> [Visti] The Formula is the same, only it does not use degrees like

JHora

> does.

>

> SJ: Thanks for this

>

> 2.What Sunrise definition do you use for HL cal.

>

> [Visti] Apparent Upper Limb.

>

> SJ: I presume here u are referring to the tip of the Suns disk

appears to be

> on the eastern horizon.

>

> 3.Since Jyotish is a karmic act or in other sense "a way of doing

of

> our karma" does the VL technique of seeing Jyotish abilities should

> be more looked into the D10 or only Rasi.

>

> [Visti] VL has NOTHING to do with abilities. In shows what sustains

you.

> This is the 2nd time you ask me this. VL in Rdgi seems sufficient

for now.

>

> SJ: I am sorry, as u know it takes me Triple time to grasp things

than the

> average student, but i was thinking that ones abilities is what

makes one

> sustain. But i guess in some cases it need not be true.

>

> I was hoping that u would take up D10 in this area

>

> I was trying to look at ur chart this morning, but somehow it is

not in my

> Pc, can u be kind to resend it.

>

>

>

> 4. I have lagna Ge and HL in Leo, so adding 3+5=8, so should the VL

> be 8th from Aries or 8th from Ge Lagna, my confusion lies here, pls

> guide.

>

> [Visti] 8th from Aries. Remember I timed your job from this.

>

> SJ: Yes u were bingo on timing the job, and after that i have lot

of beleif

> in this technique which u taught, although I feel their is more to

it and

> one can use the degs of VL also to a major extent - just my

thoughts,

>

> oh wow i just checked Visti, the deg of VL and the giving planets

dega was

> right on spot, bingo on the day it happened. What do u feel can the

degs be

> used for timing although this is one solo case and statistical

research

> needs to be carried out.

>

> My good friend Partha was also right on although he used another

technique,

> which technique i havent been able to understand yet.

>

> If i take the VL lord Mars then it was passing thro 0 bindu in its

BAV and

> also its deb sign, Mars also being the Dasa lord.

>

>

> o Rasi or Graha dristi OR should we look at their influence

> Rasi/Graha on the 'Lord' of the 11th from VL.

>

> [Visti] Rdgi deqvi and look at both the sign and lord. The Lord

indicates

> that which you are guided to do.

>

> SJ: thanks

>

> i you have many yrs of experience in Jyotish and must have

> keenly observed your own ups and downs in Jyotish studies, have you

> seen some exaltation in ur Jyotish studies when Jup aspects your VL

> to the degree or 6 deg orb. Or maybe the VL lord aspecting the VL

> itself.

>

> [Visti] No.

>

> SJ: Sorry to hear that answer although logically it should, but

still thanks

> for the answer

>

> Thanking you,

>

> Sunil John

> P.S: I shall reply to your previous letter and also Gauranga's tom

as

> I am not well right now, kindly bear.

>

> [Visti] Sorry to hear hope to see you recuperate soon.

>

> SJ: I am bit better now, thanks for ur well wishes.

>

>

>

>

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Actually you

are right the Varëada lagna is not in Taurus – good of you to point out.

Infact the Varëada Lagna cannot fall in the lagna or signs of the same oddity.

Pisces is

accurate if you use degrees. Let’s calculate this from the beginning.

Hora lagna

(using the apparents upper limb of sunrise) is in Capricorn and Lagna is in

Taurus.

Count in

reverse from Pisces to cap and you get 3.

Count in

reverse from Pisces to Taurus and you get 11.

Both are even

so they must be added; 11+3 is 14. remove multiples of 12 and you get 2.

As lagna is

an even sign, this must be counted in reverse from Pisces, i.e. Aquarius is the

2nd from Pisces.

Now the rest

of the reading (from the qoute) becomes the same, but it is quite important

that the Varëada lagna itself has changed – this was an oversight of my

own and where I took 2nd from aries instead of 2nd from

pisces (in reverse).

I use lahiri

ayanamsa.

Best wishes,

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30 June 2004 15:04

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[vedic astrology] Re:

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Dear Friend,

Hare Krsna.

Please excuse for the ignorence .... as

undersigned is getting to

learn about vernada lagna and other finer points;

and for the chart

of Lata Mangeshkar self is getting Vernada

Lagna as Meena 12.24 as

per JHL.as per the birth data furnished; whereas

you have mentioned

it as Vrishabha.

What Ayanmsha are you using ?

Thanks in advance.

Ttavam-Asi

vedic astrology,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> |Hare Räma Kåñëa|

>

> Dear Sunil, Namaskar

>

> A quote from a book;

>

>

>

> …the professions or status/positions

the native takes on are seen

from the

> Lagna and Ärüòha Lagna. Here it is pertinent

to understand that ones

> profession and occupation are two separate

things; Business

psychologists

> deal with the behavior of clients towards

products, whilst private

> psychologists help people out of their mental

abnormalities.

However; in

> both cases the profession/title is that of a

psychologist, hence the

> differentiation.

>

> * Planets

joining, lording and/or having Räçi dåñöi on the

Lagna or

> Ärüòha Lagna will indicate which traits the

native identifies

themselves

> with and hence which professions they will

enter.

> * If the

identified grahas are also in trines in the Navämça,

those

> professions will last.

>

>

> Examples

>

>

> Chart 112: Lata Mangeskar –

Singer (September 28, 1929, 22:30:00,

5:30:00

> (East of GMT)(

75 E 50', 22 N 43'))

>

> Let us identify the profession of this

native.

>

> The Varëada lagna is in Taurus, and the 11th

from it is unoccupied.

The lord

> Jupiter indicates the main profession as a

Brahmin. This could be a

teacher,

> priest, singer, actor, writer, etc.

>

> Now let us list out the planets which

associate with the Lagna and

Ärüòha

> lagna. Jupiter, Moon, Mars the nodes and

Venus associate with the

lagna and

> Ärüòha lagna.

>

> Among these, Jupiter, Ketu and the Moon are

placed in the trines to

Navämça

> lagna. Jupiter can indicate a profession as a

teacher, ketu as a

> mathematician however Ketu in 6th will not

prove auspicious, whilst

Moon

> indicates a profession as a singer or

vocalist.

>

> Among these the moon is strongest due to its

position in own sign,

and will

> dominate due to the native finding most

comfort (Svakñetra) in that

> profession.

>

>

>

> I also taught this in the Nagpur conference – this was taught by

Guruji in

> New

Jersey 2003 and in Puri 2004.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Visti Larsen

> <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Sunil John [jjnet2000_in]

> 30 June 2004 08:36

> vedic astrology

> Cc: visti@s...

> Varnada Lagna discussion with Shri

Visti

>

>

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Pranam

>

> Thanks for ur compassionate reply, pls find my humble

queries below

>

> Dear Shri Visti,

> Namaskar

>

> Thanks for making this an interesting discussion.

Pls allow me to

ask

> some basic queries.

> 1.Is the formula given by you different to

what's used in JHL

>

> [Visti] The Formula is the same, only it does

not use degrees like

JHora

> does.

>

> SJ: Thanks for this

>

> 2.What Sunrise

definition do you use for HL cal.

>

> [Visti] Apparent Upper Limb.

>

> SJ: I presume here u are referring to the tip

of the Suns disk

appears to be

> on the eastern horizon.

>

> 3.Since Jyotish is a karmic act or in other

sense "a way of doing

of

> our karma" does the VL technique of

seeing Jyotish abilities should

> be more looked into the D10 or only Rasi.

>

> [Visti] VL has NOTHING to do with abilities.

In shows what sustains

you.

> This is the 2nd time you ask me this. VL in

Rdgi seems sufficient

for now.

>

> SJ: I am sorry, as u know it takes me Triple

time to grasp things

than the

> average student, but i was thinking that ones

abilities is what

makes one

> sustain. But i guess in some cases it need

not be true.

>

> I was hoping that u would take up D10 in this

area

>

> I was trying to look at ur chart this morning, but somehow it is

not in my

> Pc, can u be kind to resend it.

>

>

>

> 4. I have lagna Ge and HL in Leo, so adding

3+5=8, so should the VL

> be 8th from Aries or 8th from Ge Lagna, my

confusion lies here, pls

> guide.

>

> [Visti] 8th from Aries. Remember I timed your

job from this.

>

> SJ: Yes u were bingo on timing the job, and

after that i have lot

of beleif

> in this technique which u taught, although I

feel their is more to

it and

> one can use the degs of VL also to a major

extent - just my

thoughts,

>

> oh wow i just checked Visti, the deg of

VL and the giving planets

dega was

> right on spot, bingo on the day it happened.

What do u feel can the

degs be

> used for timing although this is one solo

case and statistical

research

> needs to be carried out.

>

> My good friend Partha was also right on

although he used another

technique,

> which technique i havent been able to

understand yet.

>

> If i take the VL lord Mars then it was

passing thro 0 bindu in its

BAV and

> also its deb sign, Mars also being the Dasa

lord.

>

>

> o Rasi or Graha dristi OR should we look at

their influence

> Rasi/Graha on the 'Lord' of the 11th from VL.

>

> [Visti] Rdgi deqvi and look at both the sign

and lord. The Lord

indicates

> that which you are guided to do.

>

> SJ: thanks

>

> i you have many yrs of experience in Jyotish

and must have

> keenly observed your own ups and downs in Jyotish

studies, have you

> seen some exaltation in ur Jyotish studies when Jup aspects your VL

> to the degree or 6 deg orb. Or maybe the VL

lord aspecting the VL

> itself.

>

> [Visti] No.

>

> SJ: Sorry to hear that answer although

logically it should, but

still thanks

> for the answer

>

> Thanking you,

>

> Sunil John

> P.S: I shall reply to your previous letter

and also Gauranga's tom

as

> I am not well right now, kindly bear.

>

> [Visti] Sorry to hear hope to see you

recuperate soon.

>

> SJ: I am bit better now, thanks for ur well wishes.

>

>

>

>

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