Guest guest Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Dear visti Namaskar. Thanks for the detailed reply. I have taken a print out of the same and will revert to you with perhaps some more doubts, once I will do my own home work. My thanks go to Mr sauravji also. The article has given in nutshell what has been explained in Pt SRath's book. However, I think my doubt in this regard is not clarified. BHPS has given various sapas as reasons for the lack of children. In discussions with you, you said that the Parampara teaches the effects of various saapas, which need not be restricted to lack of children alone. The various books give the remedies for these saapas but what I am looking for is the effects of these saapas,(rather than the remedies) as I have not found the same anywhere except what BPHS teaches. Can you please elaborate on the effects of these saapas? So far as remedies are concerned, I think pundit's books deals with it at length, as also given in the article cited by Mr Saurav. I also found some other authorities dealing with the remedies of the saapas but not the effects par se. regards, kishore patnaik , "Visti Larsen" <visti> wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Kishore, Namaskar > > Comments below. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > > ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Vedic " on the web. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Kishore, Namaskar Ok leaving aside remedies. Heres is an easy method for starters. i) The malefics are the ones causing the pain/suffering, so see which houses they lord and that will give you the issue of the suffering. There are more tips, but this will tell alot. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** [] On Behalf Of kishore mohan 15 May 2006 16:04 [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Visti-ji,Suggestion for a article Dear visti Namaskar. Thanks for the detailed reply. I have taken a print out of the same and will revert to you with perhaps some more doubts, once I will do my own home work. My thanks go to Mr sauravji also. The article has given in nutshell what has been explained in Pt SRath's book. However, I think my doubt in this regard is not clarified. BHPS has given various sapas as reasons for the lack of children. In discussions with you, you said that the Parampara teaches the effects of various saapas, which need not be restricted to lack of children alone. The various books give the remedies for these saapas but what I am looking for is the effects of these saapas,(rather than the remedies) as I have not found the same anywhere except what BPHS teaches. Can you please elaborate on the effects of these saapas? So far as remedies are concerned, I think pundit's books deals with it at length, as also given in the article cited by Mr Saurav. I also found some other authorities dealing with the remedies of the saapas but not the effects par se. regards, kishore patnaik , "Visti Larsen" <visti> wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Kishore, Namaskar > > Comments below. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com > > *** > > > > > [] On > Behalf Of kishore mohan > 14 May 2006 18:22 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Visti-ji,Suggestion for a article > > > > Dear Visti and Saurav, > > > > sorry for interuppting your thread. I too have a wishlist,which > > infact have asked visti larsen earlier in a mail : > > > > 1. what are the various shapas indicate? the BPHS only indicate the > > lack of children whereas VL once said there are other effects also > > which are taught in the parampara. > > > > [Visti] The article has already been written! It was written by Pt. Sanjay > Rath to be presented in Serbia and California in 2004. I think some of the > students on this list have been discussing this article. I hope they can > help you to read it. > > Basically see the planets involved in the main-curse combination. If its > fifth lord/house then children are involved. If other houses, then other > effects. Primarily we must see where the sorrow is coming from and here we > can form a base-rule: > > i) see the lordship of the malefics involved in the curse. Their lordship > will indicate which areas are causing suffering to the native. > > Example chart: Sri Rama Avatara; Cancer Lagna, with Moon and Jupiter in > lagna. Saturn in fourth house, Rahu in sixth, Mars in seventh, Venus in > ninth, Sun in tenth, Mercury in eleventh and Ketu in twelfth... draw this > chart and follow; > > Here two or more malefics are aspecting Surya, Chandra and Guru forming > curse of Father, Mother and Brahmin respectively. The brahmin curse is the > worst and will be the most prominent one. > > Saturn is one of the afflictors and rules the seventh and eighth house, > among which the seventh is stronger. As a result he had to see the > kidnapping of his wife - Sita. > > Mars is involved in the curse and lords the tenth and fifth houses, among > which the tenth is stronger and rules the simhasana - he would see the loss > of his throne/kingdom because of this, and it so happened that his exile > happened just as there was talk of his future coronation. > > In this manner we can form the first inference about the curse in the chart. > > > > 2. Are there basic rules for prescribing various remedies? when you > > will prescribe a mantra, when will you do a yantra etc. Right now, I > > am doing totally based on my understanding and not based on > > authorities The various books (Sanjayji etc) do not give any such > > basic rules ( I have about half dozen books on the remedies) > > > > [Visti] The three types of remedies being: Tantra, Mantra and Yantra work on > the Body (inhibiting wrong actions of ones self or others), Mind (changing > the persons inborn tendencies and that of their community) and Soul > (changing the samskaras themselves) respectively. But, the lines between > them are not so strict as a Mantra when reciting very sincerely will begin > to change your body and eventually also change the samskaras. So question is > really: when can we settle for a gemstone and when is mantra a must? > Offcourse the mantra if accompanied with a yantra is much more powerful as > it is God manifesting before you in real form... but the restrictions are > very high if you are going to invite God to your house. > > Mantra is a must when the problem is at an atma level or involves a curse. > We cannot cure a curse with gemstones as that is simply impossible. So > prefer mantra for curses, doshas involving atmakaraka and problems due to > panchanga (gandanta, sankranti, etc). > > Prefer gemstones to ensure stability in one direction, i.e. for enhancing > raja yogas, ensuring good fortune or ensuring that people do not cause their > own bad-fortune. > > Now which type of mantra or gemstone is a very detailed question which i > will delay till later. > > > > 3. what will do you when a planet is malefic and you want to appease, > > in terms of stone? often, I am not prescribing the stone if the said > > planet is also a natural malefic. > > > > [Visti] There is a way by wearing that gemstone on the left hand, as then > the negative effects of that graha are decreased. We use this normally when > a malefic dasa arrives which is evil for health. > > > > I think these are very basic questions but somehow I missed the > > answers since I am not a formal student . > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > , "Sourav" <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > > > > > Namaskar. You must have a wishlist of > > ideas for > > > your future articles. Can I also suggest one: techniques of > > > rasi-tulya-varga and varga tulya rasi. There seem to be a large > > number > > > of techniques in various texts and it becomes puzzling to use them > > > sometimes. It may be a precocious request, on my part while I am > > still > > > trying to understand each varga. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > =================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Dear visti, Namaskar. Thank you for the tip but would you please care to give an example, apart from the example of Lord Sri Ram. Kishore patnaik , "Visti Larsen" <visti> wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Kishore, Namaskar > Ok leaving aside remedies. Heres is an easy method for starters. > i) The malefics are the ones causing the pain/suffering, so see which houses > they lord and that will give you the issue of the suffering. > There are more tips, but this will tell alot. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > *** > > > [] On > Behalf Of kishore mohan > 15 May 2006 16:04 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Visti-ji,Suggestion for a article > > Dear visti > > Namaskar. > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I have taken a print out of the same > and will revert to you with perhaps some more doubts, once I will do > my own home work. > > My thanks go to Mr sauravji also. The article has given in nutshell > what has been explained in Pt SRath's book. > > However, I think my doubt in this regard is not clarified. > > BHPS has given various sapas as reasons for the lack of children. In > discussions with you, you said that the Parampara teaches the > effects of various saapas, which need not be restricted to lack of > children alone. > > The various books give the remedies for these saapas but what I am > looking for is the effects of these saapas,(rather than the > remedies) as I have not found the same anywhere except what BPHS > teaches. > > Can you please elaborate on the effects of these saapas? So far as > remedies are concerned, I think pundit's books deals with it at > length, as also given in the article cited by Mr Saurav. I also > found some other authorities dealing with the remedies of the saapas > but not the effects par se. > > regards, > > kishore patnaik > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@> > wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Kishore, Namaskar > > > > Comments below. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of kishore mohan > > 14 May 2006 18:22 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Visti-ji,Suggestion for a article > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Saurav, > > > > > > > > sorry for interuppting your thread. I too have a wishlist,which > > > > infact have asked visti larsen earlier in a mail : > > > > > > > > 1. what are the various shapas indicate? the BPHS only indicate > the > > > > lack of children whereas VL once said there are other effects also > > > > which are taught in the parampara. > > > > > > > > [Visti] The article has already been written! It was written by > Pt. Sanjay > > Rath to be presented in Serbia and California in 2004. I think > some of the > > students on this list have been discussing this article. I hope > they can > > help you to read it. > > > > Basically see the planets involved in the main-curse combination. > If its > > fifth lord/house then children are involved. If other houses, then > other > > effects. Primarily we must see where the sorrow is coming from and > here we > > can form a base-rule: > > > > i) see the lordship of the malefics involved in the curse. Their > lordship > > will indicate which areas are causing suffering to the native. > > > > Example chart: Sri Rama Avatara; Cancer Lagna, with Moon and > Jupiter in > > lagna. Saturn in fourth house, Rahu in sixth, Mars in seventh, > Venus in > > ninth, Sun in tenth, Mercury in eleventh and Ketu in twelfth... > draw this > > chart and follow; > > > > Here two or more malefics are aspecting Surya, Chandra and Guru > forming > > curse of Father, Mother and Brahmin respectively. The brahmin > curse is the > > worst and will be the most prominent one. > > > > Saturn is one of the afflictors and rules the seventh and eighth > house, > > among which the seventh is stronger. As a result he had to see the > > kidnapping of his wife - Sita. > > > > Mars is involved in the curse and lords the tenth and fifth > houses, among > > which the tenth is stronger and rules the simhasana - he would see > the loss > > of his throne/kingdom because of this, and it so happened that his > exile > > happened just as there was talk of his future coronation. > > > > In this manner we can form the first inference about the curse in > the chart. > > > > > > > > 2. Are there basic rules for prescribing various remedies? when > you > > > > will prescribe a mantra, when will you do a yantra etc. Right now, > I > > > > am doing totally based on my understanding and not based on > > > > authorities The various books (Sanjayji etc) do not give any such > > > > basic rules ( I have about half dozen books on the remedies) > > > > > > > > [Visti] The three types of remedies being: Tantra, Mantra and > Yantra work on > > the Body (inhibiting wrong actions of ones self or others), Mind > (changing > > the persons inborn tendencies and that of their community) and Soul > > (changing the samskaras themselves) respectively. But, the lines > between > > them are not so strict as a Mantra when reciting very sincerely > will begin > > to change your body and eventually also change the samskaras. So > question is > > really: when can we settle for a gemstone and when is mantra a > must? > > Offcourse the mantra if accompanied with a yantra is much more > powerful as > > it is God manifesting before you in real form... but the > restrictions are > > very high if you are going to invite God to your house. > > > > Mantra is a must when the problem is at an atma level or involves > a curse. > > We cannot cure a curse with gemstones as that is simply > impossible. So > > prefer mantra for curses, doshas involving atmakaraka and problems > due to > > panchanga (gandanta, sankranti, etc). > > > > Prefer gemstones to ensure stability in one direction, i.e. for > enhancing > > raja yogas, ensuring good fortune or ensuring that people do not > cause their > > own bad-fortune. > > > > Now which type of mantra or gemstone is a very detailed question > which i > > will delay till later. > > > > > > > > 3. what will do you when a planet is malefic and you want to > appease, > > > > in terms of stone? often, I am not prescribing the stone if the > said > > > > planet is also a natural malefic. > > > > > > > > [Visti] There is a way by wearing that gemstone on the left hand, > as then > > the negative effects of that graha are decreased. We use this > normally when > > a malefic dasa arrives which is evil for health. > > > > > > > > I think these are very basic questions but somehow I missed the > > > > answers since I am not a formal student . > > > > > > > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > , "Sourav" <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. You must have a wishlist of > > > > ideas for > > > > > your future articles. Can I also suggest one: techniques of > > > > > rasi-tulya-varga and varga tulya rasi. There seem to be a large > > > > number > > > > > of techniques in various texts and it becomes puzzling to use > them > > > > > sometimes. It may be a precocious request, on my part while I am > > > > still > > > > > trying to understand each varga. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Kishore, Namaskar There should be some examples in the PDF sent to you by Sourav. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** [] On Behalf Of kishore mohan 24 May 2006 15:28 [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Visti-ji,Suggestion for a article Dear visti, Namaskar. Thank you for the tip but would you please care to give an example, apart from the example of Lord Sri Ram. Kishore patnaik , "Visti Larsen" <visti> wrote: > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Kishore, Namaskar > Ok leaving aside remedies. Heres is an easy method for starters. > i) The malefics are the ones causing the pain/suffering, so see which houses > they lord and that will give you the issue of the suffering. > There are more tips, but this will tell alot. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > *** > > > [] On > Behalf Of kishore mohan > 15 May 2006 16:04 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Visti-ji,Suggestion for a article > > Dear visti > > Namaskar. > > Thanks for the detailed reply. I have taken a print out of the same > and will revert to you with perhaps some more doubts, once I will do > my own home work. > > My thanks go to Mr sauravji also. The article has given in nutshell > what has been explained in Pt SRath's book. > > However, I think my doubt in this regard is not clarified. > > BHPS has given various sapas as reasons for the lack of children. In > discussions with you, you said that the Parampara teaches the > effects of various saapas, which need not be restricted to lack of > children alone. > > The various books give the remedies for these saapas but what I am > looking for is the effects of these saapas,(rather than the > remedies) as I have not found the same anywhere except what BPHS > teaches. > > Can you please elaborate on the effects of these saapas? So far as > remedies are concerned, I think pundit's books deals with it at > length, as also given in the article cited by Mr Saurav. I also > found some other authorities dealing with the remedies of the saapas > but not the effects par se. > > regards, > > kishore patnaik > > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@> > wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Kishore, Namaskar > > > > Comments below. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > http://srigaruda.com > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of kishore mohan > > 14 May 2006 18:22 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: To Visti-ji,Suggestion for a article > > > > > > > > Dear Visti and Saurav, > > > > > > > > sorry for interuppting your thread. I too have a wishlist,which > > > > infact have asked visti larsen earlier in a mail : > > > > > > > > 1. what are the various shapas indicate? the BPHS only indicate > the > > > > lack of children whereas VL once said there are other effects also > > > > which are taught in the parampara. > > > > > > > > [Visti] The article has already been written! It was written by > Pt. Sanjay > > Rath to be presented in Serbia and California in 2004. I think > some of the > > students on this list have been discussing this article. I hope > they can > > help you to read it. > > > > Basically see the planets involved in the main-curse combination. > If its > > fifth lord/house then children are involved. If other houses, then > other > > effects. Primarily we must see where the sorrow is coming from and > here we > > can form a base-rule: > > > > i) see the lordship of the malefics involved in the curse. Their > lordship > > will indicate which areas are causing suffering to the native. > > > > Example chart: Sri Rama Avatara; Cancer Lagna, with Moon and > Jupiter in > > lagna. Saturn in fourth house, Rahu in sixth, Mars in seventh, > Venus in > > ninth, Sun in tenth, Mercury in eleventh and Ketu in twelfth... > draw this > > chart and follow; > > > > Here two or more malefics are aspecting Surya, Chandra and Guru > forming > > curse of Father, Mother and Brahmin respectively. The brahmin > curse is the > > worst and will be the most prominent one. > > > > Saturn is one of the afflictors and rules the seventh and eighth > house, > > among which the seventh is stronger. As a result he had to see the > > kidnapping of his wife - Sita. > > > > Mars is involved in the curse and lords the tenth and fifth > houses, among > > which the tenth is stronger and rules the simhasana - he would see > the loss > > of his throne/kingdom because of this, and it so happened that his > exile > > happened just as there was talk of his future coronation. > > > > In this manner we can form the first inference about the curse in > the chart. > > > > > > > > 2. Are there basic rules for prescribing various remedies? when > you > > > > will prescribe a mantra, when will you do a yantra etc. Right now, > I > > > > am doing totally based on my understanding and not based on > > > > authorities The various books (Sanjayji etc) do not give any such > > > > basic rules ( I have about half dozen books on the remedies) > > > > > > > > [Visti] The three types of remedies being: Tantra, Mantra and > Yantra work on > > the Body (inhibiting wrong actions of ones self or others), Mind > (changing > > the persons inborn tendencies and that of their community) and Soul > > (changing the samskaras themselves) respectively. But, the lines > between > > them are not so strict as a Mantra when reciting very sincerely > will begin > > to change your body and eventually also change the samskaras. So > question is > > really: when can we settle for a gemstone and when is mantra a > must? > > Offcourse the mantra if accompanied with a yantra is much more > powerful as > > it is God manifesting before you in real form... but the > restrictions are > > very high if you are going to invite God to your house. > > > > Mantra is a must when the problem is at an atma level or involves > a curse. > > We cannot cure a curse with gemstones as that is simply > impossible. So > > prefer mantra for curses, doshas involving atmakaraka and problems > due to > > panchanga (gandanta, sankranti, etc). > > > > Prefer gemstones to ensure stability in one direction, i.e. for > enhancing > > raja yogas, ensuring good fortune or ensuring that people do not > cause their > > own bad-fortune. > > > > Now which type of mantra or gemstone is a very detailed question > which i > > will delay till later. > > > > > > > > 3. what will do you when a planet is malefic and you want to > appease, > > > > in terms of stone? often, I am not prescribing the stone if the > said > > > > planet is also a natural malefic. > > > > > > > > [Visti] There is a way by wearing that gemstone on the left hand, > as then > > the negative effects of that graha are decreased. We use this > normally when > > a malefic dasa arrives which is evil for health. > > > > > > > > I think these are very basic questions but somehow I missed the > > > > answers since I am not a formal student . > > > > > > > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > , "Sourav" <souravc108@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Visti-ji, > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar. You must have a wishlist of > > > > ideas for > > > > > your future articles. Can I also suggest one: techniques of > > > > > rasi-tulya-varga and varga tulya rasi. There seem to be a large > > > > number > > > > > of techniques in various texts and it becomes puzzling to use > them > > > > > sometimes. It may be a precocious request, on my part while I am > > > > still > > > > > trying to understand each varga. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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