The Correct Kalachakra Dasa!?!

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Namaste Shanthi,

 

Thank you for the kind support. However, no negative motives need to be seen

behind someone's questioning my method.

 

In all honesty, I do not want to defend "the Kalachakra dasa of PVR". Instead, I

want to correctly understand the Kalachakra dasa of Lord Shiva and Sage

Parasara. If I make a mistake, it should be corrected at the earliest

opportunity! True knowledge alone is eternal. All other things, like ego,

reputation etc, are temporary.

 

I worked on Kalachakra dasa in my formative years as an astrology scholar

(1993-1998). I went by the interpretation I found in some texts. I thought I

found it working, but I honestly did not have a consistent method. My original

lecture on Kalachakra dasa at Arsha Vidya Gurukulam had a lot of loose logic.

If some fault me for sharing half-baked knowledge, they are correct and I

humbly accept my errors. The bottomline is that I never thought my

understanding of Kalachakra dasa was infallible. As my understanding of

astrology matured more, I realized that my understanding of Kalachakra was

imperfect.

 

I honestly don't think that Kalachakra dasa as given in my original lecture at

AVG or in JHora is accurate. I will offer more options in future, based on a

more cautious study and research.

 

In fact, Sanjay ji asked me to write two books on Kalachakra dasa and

Ashtakavarga when I finished my first book ("Vedic Astrology: An Integrated

Approach"). I refused saying I had not yet understood either correctly. [Yes, I

believe there are important missing links in ashtakavarga. I am not talking

about the inconsistencies between Varahamihira and Parasara. I believe there

are more errors in fundamental understanding. I am still working on this.]

 

One big issue in Kalachakra dasa is whether dasa sesham is applied to the first

dasa or the entire paramayush consisting of 9 dasas. Though JHora gives only

the latter, I have both in my personal version of JHora and experimented with

both. The advantage of the latter approach is that there is continuity across

nakshatra pada boundaries. However, one can argue that this is not a necessity,

as discontinuities across savya and apasavya nakshatra boundaries cannot be

avoided anyway! The advantage of the former approach is that it allows us to

stick to the four paramayush values given by Parasara and Shiva.

 

When I originally worked on Kalachakra dasa 8-9 years back, I did not have the

knowledge, maturity and ability to resolve this issue satisfactorily. I made a

lot of progress in recent months. However, I was always flummoxed by antardasa

computation. Taking antardasas from dasa sign is Vimsottari dasa thinking and

is too simplisitc. I was always convinced that the correct answer was something

else (but I could not put my finger on it). Moreover, I was not satisfied with

antardasa in many examples. In my early days, I would accept any logic, but I

am more strict now.

 

Dhananjayan Brahma's recent comments made my intellectual curiosity deeper. I

meditated more on this. I referred to a book I have, which gives a lot more

material than Parasara. This book has a lot of Sanskrit verses that are a

conversation between Shiva and Parvati. It was published in 1931 with Telugu

language translation by a scholar called Sriman Tirumala Samudrala Venkata

Raghavacharya. I luckily grabbed a copy of it a few years back. I read it

several times before, but still did not understand antardasas correctly. When I

read it last week again, the internal spark was lit by the grace of Lord Shiva.

Finally I understood that dasas, antardasas, pratyantardasas etc are based on

the same logic and that antardasas are not philosophically different from

dasas.

 

When I described my finding to Sanjay ji, he found it very logical. It simply

made the perfect sense to both of us. He was so excited that he said we should

present this at the Mumbai conference of SJC. I would have normally waited and

experimented for 6-12 months before going public, but Sanjay ji made the

decision and I will act accordingly. Sanjay ji and I are going to jointly write

a paper on Kalachakra dasa. As I will not be in Mumbai, Sanjay ji will present

it on behalf of both of us. I look forward to sharing this with the world.

 

After the Mumbai conference is over, I will go public with my findings. But I

want to thank Dhananjayan Brahma and his village purohit for questioning me and

deepening the dormant intellectual curiosity in this matter. I am most grateful.

 

Dear Dhananjayan Brahma, if the village purohit you mentioned has a computer, I

want to give you and him two free copies of the commercial version of JHora

(with three options given for Kalachakra dasa, including my latest finding and

the facility to use Moon or lagna for Kalachakra dasa as explicitly taught by

Shiva). Please send me a private mail with the addresses.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> OM NAMO NARAYANAYA.> > Respected Gurujis,> > The Kalachakra Dasa system done

by PVR ji has to be appreciated and > it has given me consistent results in all

my research.> PVR ji has done a lot of research and has taken all the materials

> from the original teachings of ancient seers. So I feel that > questioning

the very research for its authenticity should not arise.> > There are so many

systems given in ancient texts which have similar > names .I am eager to know

about the new dasa system talked about by > Brahmaji.> > Thanking you,> With

Pranams,> Shanthi.

 

> Dear Mr.PVN Narasimha Raoji,> > Kalachakra dasa is a most difficult dasa

system to understand. It is said to be the most Palitha dasa (describes the

true occurrence / events in once life time). Maharishi Parashar said in his

BPHS -ch.46 para 6-11” that some Maharishis had said it, as a supreme dasa” He

explains it from para 53-95 as Goddess mother Parvathy preached it to him.> >

In Tamil nadu (Madras state) it is popularly known as Uma Mageswara samvaadha /

Sambhashana Kalachakra dasa.> > My village Prohit is of the opinion that the

Kala chakr dasa /bukthi calculatons in JHL6.are seem to be most erratic and I

am also of the opinion it is seemly contradicting Mr. PVR Narasimha Rao’s own

deliberations in some seminar in USA / help menu lessons contained in his

erstwhile ver.5 of JHL (at present the download of ver.6 had eroded the

previous records in ver.5)> > During the electoral battle of Mr. Bush /Mr.

Kerry, I have seen Mr.SathyanarayanaGupta had used, the slowly vanishing Kala

chakra dasa system Successfully, in the opinion of my village Prohit,’ it is a

renascence to Kala chakra dasa system, which action of his has to be commended

/ appreciated.’> > My village Prohit had consented to teach me the system, he

told me it is also known as Amsa Rasi dasa. There are 12 Savya dasa cycle named

after the 12 Rasis, similarly there are 12 Abhasavya dasa cycle named after 12

Rasis, for the dasa cycles starting from Mesha, Simha, Dhanus PurnaAyu is 100

years, for the dasa cycles starting from Rishaba, Kanya, Makara PurnaAyu is 85

years, for the dasa cycles starting from Mituna, Thula, Makara Puna Ayu is 83

years, for the dasa cycles starting from Kark, Vrishika, Meena is 86years. He

also told that there are 11 Gati / jumps in total, Out of which one Jalagati is

common for dasa / bukthi, Simha & Thuraga gati for dasas only, Cock, Peacock,

Frog Gati / jumps for bukthi only. He told me that among the Maharishis there

are no difference of opinion in the dasa system approach, the only difference

is in the recognition of number of Gati / jumps. (Refer Jathga Alangar by

Keeranur Natarajan, Veteran Astrologer who lived 55o years ago, his book in

the> poetic form, it should be read with its commentary).> > As a first step

he had instructed me to Write Savya Nakshtra padas from Aries to Pisces

clock-wise (Aswani 1 in Mesha, 2 in Rishaba, 3in Mithuna, 4 in

Kataka……………Kirthika4 in Pisces, similarly from Punarvasu1 to Aslesha4, Hastha1

to Swati 4,Moola 1 to Uttarashada 4,Poorvabhadra 1 to Revathy 4.> > When I step

into my 2nd session class, I shall keep you posted.> > I request

Mr.Sathyanarayana Gupta to advise the correctness of the above.> > Dhananjayan.