Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 Jaya Jagannatha Namasthe Swee Chan ji, Hope you remember me ( Had met in Puri Conference- Studing Ayurveda). I would just place you my experience of Prescribing Gem Stones. We have a Subject in Ayurveda called "Rasa Shastra". Most of the "Rasa Shastra" books says -) To appease planets, wear their gem stones. Recently my classmate - A Gujarathi had a series of Road accidents, fights always . Opening his Horoscope, found he is running Jupiter Dasa & Mars Bhukthi. Tula Lagna. Mars being Maraka & Bhukthi running, since then he had accidents, etc . I recommended him a Red Coral , as our Ayurvedic shastras tell - wear any stone it will do good, unless the stone has defects. Since he is wearing the red coral -) No Accidents & he is diverting his energy positively - Studing, working hard, sports etc. I think by wearing a gem stone we make the planet happy & make them do good, no matter where he is positioned. My respects & Pranams to you. Samarth. Rao http://groups.msn.com/astroexpert Jaya Jagannatha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2004 Report Share Posted August 4, 2004 I have some doubts regarding gem selection problem. Generally the remedies and stones are suggested with respect to two point of views. *** To enhance the good effects of functional benefic (of strong) planets.*** To wardoff the evil effects of functional malefic (or weak) planets. Q1- Can it be recommended to wear stone of the functional malefic (or weak) planet so that it may be appeased? or their selection is subject to their placement in good or bad houses ? As there existed various opinions. Some holds that stones of two opposite natured (or enemies) should not be wear in a same hand. For example Emerald with Coral, or Ruby with Sapphire in same hand. Similarly stones of trik bhava (6,8,12) lords should also be avoided. Q2- It is also said, that stones of functional benefic should wear in right hand and of functional malefic in left hand. Is it logical and can be practiced? Hope to get satisfactory reply from your side. Regards M.Imran Samarth <samarthprao (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Jaya JagannathaNamasthe Swee Chan ji, Hope you remember me ( Had met in Puri Conference- Studing Ayurveda). I would just place you my experience of Prescribing Gem Stones.We have a Subject in Ayurveda called "Rasa Shastra". Most of the "Rasa Shastra" books says -) To appease planets, wear their gem stones. Recently my classmate - A Gujarathi had a series of Road accidents, fights always . Opening his Horoscope, found he is running Jupiter Dasa & Mars Bhukthi. Tula Lagna. Mars being Maraka & Bhukthi running, since then he had accidents, etc . I recommended him a Red Coral , as our Ayurvedic shastras tell - wear any stone it will do good, unless the stone has defects.Since he is wearing the red coral -) No Accidents & he is diverting his energy positively - Studing, working hard, sports etc.I think by wearing a gem stone we make the planet happy & make them do good, no matter where he is positioned.My respects & Pranams to you.Samarth. Raohttp://groups.msn.com/astroexpertJaya JagannathaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me?Lo! I am beside thee.I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in Kailash:Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation.If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt meet Me in a moment of time.Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Many thanks for replying the queries. I think, the online literature on the proper "gem selection methodology" is scarce, specially with real life examples. You have knowledge and vision, and should write on the very topic for benefit of people. The simplest criteria I found correct, is the combination of langa and 9th lord's stones, provided none of theme in trik sthanas. But the difficulty arises, when we confronted people facing problem related to functional malefic planet and houses. What I've extrated to your reply is that, avoid the stone of functional malefic planet whether in good or bad house. And secondly, wearing gem in right or left hand is a matter of choice, not functional nature of planet. Its mean, the stone of the planets, give result of their ownership rather placement in chart ! But in this way we have not uniform choice. And what about natives, who donot have any functional benefic/lagesh in good houses. Should they avoid stones? Regards M.Imran Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Muhammad Imran wrote:Om Vishnave Namah Dear Mohammed,Dear Swee and Members, I have some doubts regarding gem selection problem. Generally the remedies and stones are suggested with respect to two point of views. *** To enhance the good effects of functional benefic (of strong) planets.*** To wardoff the evil effects of functional malefic (or weak) planets.>Yes, the main idea is to select one for rajayoga sans dusthana lords. (functional malefics). When it comes to illnesses, that's different. To ward off the effects of malefic planets Padma Purana gives a list of mantras for that. Q1- Can it be recommended to wear stone of the functional malefic (or weak) planet so that it may be appeased? or their selection is subject to their placement in good or bad houses ?>No, to appease a functional malefic, one has to propritiate accordingly. A good upaya is to donate the gemstone after a yagna, offer annadan and daksina to the Purohit and the gemstone. The idea behind this is that, it works like a yantra which is given to the Purohit (he will give this to one of his sishyas to look after, who offers prayers on a daily basis). As there existed various opinions. Some holds that stones of two opposite natured (or enemies) should not be wear in a same hand. For example Emerald with Coral, or Ruby with Sapphire in same hand. Similarly stones of trik bhava (6,8,12) lords should also be avoided.> Agree. Bhava calculations are different from looking at the trik rasis for a snap view. Q2- It is also said, that stones of functional benefic should wear in right hand and of functional malefic in left hand. Is it logical and can be practiced? Hope to get satisfactory reply from your side.> Not necessarily. It is dependent on a number of factors. I also take the charakarakas into account. But the general idea is to keep it under wraps, you wear it on the left. The left part of any of the Kalapurusha is the personification of his shakti.love, Swee Regards M.Imran Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Om Vishnave Namah Dear Samarth, Ayurvedic healing I presume is the same as in Taoist herbal healing, whereby you tonify the vital organs. To heal the heart, you tonify the kidneys etc. In homeopathy, you treat like and like. That is to say, you induce poison with poison to allow the body to bring its own healing mechanism to the fore. The treatment of Rasa Sastra with gemstone seems to be rather opposite of ayurveda! In the Puranas et al, to appease the planets, you propitiate. Jataka Parijata states that Mars can remove the evils caused by Mercury, Rahu and Saturn. Gems are ruled by Moon and Mars is debilitated in Cancer as you know. It is through Mars we can ascertain disease while Saturn indicates the cause and duration of the suffering. So which of these apply to your friend? By prescribing the gemstone of his 7th, he is able to positively direct energies of the 5th, 12th etc. Thank you for your thoughts (and sohan padpri ) love, Swee Samarth wrote: >Jaya Jagannatha > >Namasthe Swee Chan ji, > > Hope you remember me ( Had met in Puri Conference- Studing >Ayurveda). I would just place you my experience of Prescribing Gem >Stones. > > We have a Subject in Ayurveda called "Rasa Shastra". Most of >the "Rasa Shastra" books says -) To appease planets, wear their gem >stones. > > Recently my classmate - A Gujarathi had a series of Road accidents, >fights always . Opening his Horoscope, found he is running Jupiter >Dasa & Mars Bhukthi. Tula Lagna. Mars being Maraka & Bhukthi running, >since then he had accidents, etc . I recommended him a Red Coral , >as our Ayurvedic shastras tell - wear any stone it will do good, >unless the stone has defects. > >Since he is wearing the red coral -) No Accidents & he is diverting >his energy positively - Studing, working hard, sports etc. > >I think by wearing a gem stone we make the planet happy & make them >do good, no matter where he is positioned. > >My respects & Pranams to you. > >Samarth. Rao >http://groups.msn.com/astroexpert > >Jaya Jagannatha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Muhammad Imran wrote: Om Vishnave Namah Dear Mohammed, Dear Swee and Members, I have some doubts regarding gem selection problem. Generally the remedies and stones are suggested with respect to two point of views. *** To enhance the good effects of functional benefic (of strong) planets. *** To wardoff the evil effects of functional malefic (or weak) planets. >Yes, the main idea is to select one for rajayoga sans dusthana lords. (functional malefics). When it comes to illnesses, that's different. To ward off the effects of malefic planets Padma Purana gives a list of mantras for that. Q1- Can it be recommended to wear stone of the functional malefic (or weak) planet so that it may be appeased? or their selection is subject to their placement in good or bad houses ? >No, to appease a functional malefic, one has to propritiate accordingly. A good upaya is to donate the gemstone after a yagna, offer annadan and daksina to the Purohit and the gemstone. The idea behind this is that, it works like a yantra which is given to the Purohit (he will give this to one of his sishyas to look after, who offers prayers on a daily basis). As there existed various opinions. Some holds that stones of two opposite natured (or enemies) should not be wear in a same hand. For example Emerald with Coral, or Ruby with Sapphire in same hand. Similarly stones of trik bhava (6,8,12) lords should also be avoided. > Agree. Bhava calculations are different from looking at the trik rasis for a snap view. Q2- It is also said, that stones of functional benefic should wear in right hand and of functional malefic in left hand. Is it logical and can be practiced? Hope to get satisfactory reply from your side. > Not necessarily. It is dependent on a number of factors. I also take the charakarakas into account. But the general idea is to keep it under wraps, you wear it on the left. The left part of any of the Kalapurusha is the personification of his shakti. love, Swee Regards M.Imran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2004 Report Share Posted August 5, 2004 Om Vishnave Namah Dear Muhammad, Muhammad Imran wrote: Dear Swee Chan, Many thanks for replying the queries. I think, the online literature on the proper "gem selection methodology" is scarce, specially with real life examples. You have knowledge and vision, and should write on the very topic for benefit of people. The simplest criteria I found correct, is the combination of langa and 9th lord's stones, provided none of theme in trik sthanas. > The simple rule is this: If Sun and Moon are strong, then whichever frunctional benefic Yogada is promised, should come into fruition. Sometimes the 9th lord does not promise much in terms of assessing the Vaiseshika Vargas which are: Swachcha - Exaltation Swatrikona - Mooltrikona Swasuhrid - The Planet is in friend's house Swadrekkana - The Planet is in own Drekkana Swarasi - The Planet in Own House Swa amsa - Planet in Own Navamsa That the planet should at least have 4 bindus. But more often than not, when that particular planet is a Yogi planet, say in my case, Venus is functionally a malefic. It is also involved in a parivatana with a natural malefic. Venus is also a Yogi planet. I find that during Saturn's bhuktis, there are always pleasant events. Saturn's retrograde maleficence falls away too. In 12th house in navamsa, my Venus conjoins the 12th lord of Rasi which is exalted. Transposed to the rasi, they fall into the 9th house. Mars in the 1st drekkana is keen to give results. Being both rasi and navamsa in a prishtodaya sign, it should Mars shower early and later (hind sign). Results will be felt in both. At the beginning and at the end of its mahadasa. But the difficulty arises, when we confronted people facing problem related to functional malefic planet and houses. >There are many other propitiations for this. Take my functional malefic Jupiter, also involved in a parivatana. It is also AmK, hence I render service to my Guru. 4th from Jupiter is Virgo, hence purchasing a plot of land for him is my upaya. What I've extrated to your reply is that, avoid the stone of functional malefic planet whether in good or bad house. >Yes And secondly, wearing gem in right or left hand is a matter of choice, not functional nature of planet. >The simplistic view is this: Right side amplify spirituality. Left side control. Round the neck to touch various chakra, material. Its mean, the stone of the planets, give result of their ownership rather placement in chart ! > No, the planet will go about protecting its official house and the sign and house it is place will also be tinged with the karakatwas of that house. Suppose it has entered into an enemy's office? But is it functionally a benefic and it is badly placed, you may want to 'rescue' it by wearing that gemstone. That is also another way. It greatly depends on the circumstances of the person. Of most of the charts I have done, people generally do not approach an astrologer until the 11th hour. But in this way we have not uniform choice. And what about natives, who donot have any functional benefic/lagesh in good houses. Should they avoid stones? Yes, there are cases where a gemstone is not suitable. You will find some other information from my article in the Annual Jyotish Digest if you are not already d to it. love, Swee Regards M.Imran Swee Chan <swee (AT) coppernet (DOT) zm> wrote: Muhammad Imran wrote: Om Vishnave Namah Dear Mohammed, Dear Swee and Members, I have some doubts regarding gem selection problem. Generally the remedies and stones are suggested with respect to two point of views. *** To enhance the good effects of functional benefic (of strong) planets. *** To wardoff the evil effects of functional malefic (or weak) planets. >Yes, the main idea is to select one for rajayoga sans dusthana lords. (functional malefics). When it comes to illnesses, that's different. To ward off the effects of malefic planets Padma Purana gives a list of mantras for that. Q1- Can it be recommended to wear stone of the functional malefic (or weak) planet so that it may be appeased? or their selection is subject to their placement in good or bad houses ? >No, to appease a functional malefic, one has to propritiate accordingly. A good upaya is to donate the gemstone after a yagna, offer annadan and daksina to the Purohit and the gemstone. The idea behind this is that, it works like a yantra which is given to the Purohit (he will give this to one of his sishyas to look after, who offers prayers on a daily basis). As there existed various opinions. Some holds that stones of two opposite natured (or enemies) should not be wear in a same hand. For example Emerald with Coral, or Ruby with Sapphire in same hand. Similarly stones of trik bhava (6,8,12) lords should also be avoided. > Agree. Bhava calculations are different from looking at the trik rasis for a snap view. Q2- It is also said, that stones of functional benefic should wear in right hand and of functional malefic in left hand. Is it logical and can be practiced? Hope to get satisfactory reply from your side. > Not necessarily. It is dependent on a number of factors. I also take the charakarakas into account. But the general idea is to keep it under wraps, you wear it on the left. The left part of any of the Kalapurusha is the personification of his shakti. love, Swee Regards M.Imran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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