Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Dear Friends, While the Faithfuls are searching for ALL answers in BPHS and other scriptures , let undersigned give you a new perspective. Take R4 position of the girl's horoscope. This is YBL or Yoni Bhanga Lagna position of Rahu which deals with problems in Marital life. We are looking for break /ceasation of marital happiness using HP theory. If you orient the horoscope to having Makara lagna, you will get Rahu in 4th house which is R4 position. Now look for planets in 7th and lord of the 7th house in new R4 chart. Exalted Guru in 7th, Sun in 5th in Vrishabha rasi (To deny male progeny) progeny as 5th lord is also in kataka . BHAVA NASHA KARO JEEVA is the dictum we apply here. Look at 7th lord in 8th and 8th lord in 5th. Using the principle of HP , Rahu aspects her 7th house with full Drishti in reverse. So the cauldrone of killer brew is complete for the husband. Even Brahma cannot save him. Chandra Dasa Sani Bhukti killed her husband. This is what is HP theory's simple method. INTERESTED? MAY BE YES AND NO. Take your own time. UNLEARNING OLD METHODS TAKES LONGER THAN LEARNING NEW ONES. AND ACCEPTING THEM, MAY TAKE A WHOLE LIFE. Tatvam-Asi vedic astrology, Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816> wrote: > > Dear Shri.Razdanji, > > For Kanya Lagn Sukra & Sani are functional benefic – Chandra, Man gal and Guru are functional malefic as well as Marakas, if posted in 2nd, 3rd, 7th, 8th and 12th houses. > > The above are the Lagn based dictums available to me in classics like `Sundarasekaram ` > > `Jathakachandrika'etc., > > I agree that the native could be termed as Kalathra dosa Jathake, her husband would be pre-deceased. > > In terms of sloka 39 under Shreejathka Athyaya in Jaathagathvaa, under the caption > > `Vaithavya K aala'it is said that when a malefic is placed in the 8th house, the 8th Lord's > > Depositor in the Amsa would inflect death to the native's husband `.In the instant case 8th Lord's Depositor Sun did not lay His icey hands on the native's husband for the reasons best known to the MahaRishis . > > In the functional malefic Moon's dasa, Sani acts as Kaarak (Sundarasekaram), as Sani the functional benefic, being placed in Ashta-Sahtaka to the dasa lord , should enclave her with Sadness, pensiveness according to Braghat Paaraasra samkitha .When the functional benefic Sani inflects death to her husband , we should treat It as an arrow and reason that the bow lies with the 5th house ( refer to sloka 2 under Kalathra Bhava in Jaathaka Paladeepikaa which narrates that when the Lord of the 5th house posted in the 7th house, native would experience loss of Kalathra ).From the above we could visualize that regardless of Sani ,any other gragha becoming the Lord of the 5th house when posted in the 7th house, it would harm the native's life partner. Hence my contention is that by treating Sani as a natural malefic, should not be blamed for the widow-hood of the native, but we should blame any Lord of the 5th house when finds a place in the 7th house . > > With regards, > > VedapuriBaskarabandulu.D.SathiyanarayanaGupta. > > PNRazdan <pnrazdan> wrote:Dear Guptaji, > Probably you are saying this because of Sun's position in D-9. > Sun's functional role in Kanya lagan has been described as Karak by > some and as Akarak by others. Even taking its worst form, it may bring > matrimonial discord but not death. And since this lady was married in > her Sun's dasa, it rules out Sun as the planet responsible for her > widowhood. > > The widowhood of the lady is confirmed by Rahu in her eighth house and > lagnesh Jupiter in eighth house in the Navmas, Besides Saturn in the > seventh house in Kanya lagan is considerably harmful also having > digbal. Ordinarily Saturn in the 7th does not bring death to the > spouse, though it may delay the marriage or bring in an old spouse or > even matrimonial maladjustment. But the special case of Kanya lagan is > in my opinion responsible for strength to Saturn for bringing death to > the husband in her Bukhti. > The widowhood came somewhere in 96-97 in Moon Saturn dasa. How Moon > comes in, I am not figuring out as yet except for its conjunction with > Mars, the despositor of Venus in NM. > I would like to have your comments. > Pran Razdan > > --- Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816> wrote: > > > > > Dear Shri.Tatvam-Asi, > > > > Sorry for the interruption, I have gone through the case study chart > > of the Lady as cited by you against example 2, who is said to have > > born on the 14th June 1967 @ 13hrs. Bangalore. > > > > I have a genuine doubt that how the Sani could be attributed for her > > widow-hood? Will it not be appropriate to make the Sun as responsible > > for her widow-hood? > > > > Request you to kindly re-examine your synthesis. > > > > With regards, > > > > D.SathiyanarayanaGupta. > > > > > > > > > > nameisego <nameisego> wrote: > > Dear friend, > > The mesha sani gentleman is in Madras and self has no means to > > immediately give you his birth details but another random sample is > > as follows. > > This girl was married when she was twenty two and was widowed within > > seven or eight years of marriage. > > Lady > > 14th June 1967 > > 13,00 Hrs, > > Bangalore > > She has sani in 7th. > > Rest is left to you to analyze. > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, ramesh mishra > > <aarceemastro2002> wrote: > > > Dear friend, > > > As u mentioned Sani positioned in the house increases the > > significance of that house.Please tell me what will happen if it > > occupies the Lagna with lagnalord and yogkaraka Mars. > > > The reason for bahu vivaah may be something else.Can u please give > > me the chart of this native. > > > Normally Saturn positioned in the house delays the significance of > > > > that house.Please comment. > > > aarceemastro2002aarceemastro2002 > > > > > > > > > nameisego <nameisego> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Sri Vishnu, > > > > > > As a random example, self decided to check the chart of Lady who > > has > > > been widowed twice before age of 30 (Refer to previous postings by > > > her). > > > She has Sani in 7th bhava. > > > Bhava Vriddhhi karau sani ... principle is applicable here. > > > How, she got more than one husband. !! > > > Self has an old friend who has Sani in 7th bhava in Mesha. > > > He married thrice and all the three wives died leaving a child > > each. > > > in young age. > > > Thus Sani in 7th increases the bhava indication by giving number of > > > > > wifes ....meaning DWI OR TRI BHARYA YOPGA. > > > Hope this example would give you something to contend with. > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Vishnu Jandhyala > > > <jvk1305> wrote: > > > > Dear Sri Trivedi, > > > > > > > > Bhava vriddhi karau Sani?????? > > > > > > > > If one were to interpret your dictum verbatim, what happened to > > > Sani's qualities > > > > here? I don't have the correct time for these charts. > > > > > > > > Native 1: September 1st, 1947, Tenali- India > > > > > > > > This native died of cancer at 48! Sani in the eight should have > > > rather blessed the > > > > native with purna ayuhu! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > > | |HL |Ra GL |Ma | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > |Mo | |Sa | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > > > > | | |Su Me | > > > > | | |Ve AL | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > |As Md |Ke |Ju | | > > > > |Gk | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > Native 2: September 6th, 1957, Tenali - India > > > > > > > > This native died at 47! Brutally murdered in Sani dasa! Whatever > > > > > happened to Sani > > > > here? > > > > > > > > +--------------+ > > > > | |As Ke | |Md Gk | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |-----------| Rasi |-----------| > > > > |Mo | |Su Ma | > > > > | | |MeR | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > | | | | > > > > |-----------+-----------------------+-----------| > > > > |AL |Sa HL |Ra GL |Ju Ve | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > | | | | | > > > > +--------------+ > > > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally the native of 2nd chart is younger sister of the > > 1st. > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards, > > > > > > > > Vishnu > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > ||Om akhandala mandalaa kaaram > > > > vyaaptam yena charaa charam > > > > tatpadam darsitam yena > > > > tasmai sri gurave namaha || > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________ > > > > > > > > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > > > > http://vote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... 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