Guest guest Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Is saturn a benefic in this chart? date of birth-11 dec 1972 Place-Indore time-03.23 Am Thanks for reply Anamika. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2004 Report Share Posted August 24, 2004 Dear Anamika I think, Saturn is the second most malefic planet in your chart after Mars. You are considering Saturn as benefic because it is Lord of 5th and Lord of 4th. OK? You are correct if we consider general principles of determining the functional benefics and malefics only. However, when we apply the principles told in various other streams of Vedic Jyotish to measure the exact benefic or malefic nature of the planets in your natal chart – picture gets reversed. Saturn comes out as one of the most malefic planet. During its Vimsottari periods (specially the sub-period of Saturn), you might get very adverse results pertaining to the significations of 4th House (Home, general happiness, peace of mind, property, mother etc.); 5th House (children, creativity, romance etc); and 8th House (longevity, defeat or insult, accidents, sudden losses etc.). You have been under Jupiter-Saturn dasa from 30th June 2001 to 12th January 2004. Can you provide me your feedback about what I said above? I have programmed a “'Vjyotish beneficence scale” in which the importance of various astrological parameters has been calibrated very carefully - as told in ancient Vedic Jyotish texts. In this report, at times, some special Jyotish principles may over-shadow the net result obtained through the normally used Parashari principles to determine the beneficence of a planet. In such cases, these special principles will prevail and may reduce (or enhance) beneficence of a planet considerably. On 'Vjyotish beneficence scale', Mercury stands out as the best planet for you. It's Vimsottari-periods will generally be the excellent periods of your life. Specially those periods - where Mercury simultaneously holds portfolios of Mahadasa Lord, Antardasa Lord and Pratyantar dasa lord (i.e., when you are running under 'Mercury-Mercury-Mercury' dasa, or atleast, Mercury is the 'Antardasa lord'[AD Lord] ). On the same 'Vjyotish beneficence scale', Mars has been determined as the most damaging planet in your chart. It's Vimsottari-periods will generally be the trying periods of your life. You need to be extra cautious when you are under Vimsottari dasa of 'Mars-Mars-Mars' or when Mars is the 'Antardasa lord'[AD Lord]. In the following report, normally, the values around zero should be considered as average beneficence while increasing negative values here denote increasing malefic nature of the concerned planets in your chart due to various astrological parameters. Same way, higher positive values indicate higher benefic nature of the planets concerned. However, we have to remember that the terms 'Good', 'Poor' etc. are comparative. Planet-A might be negative but much less negative than Planet-B. Thus, when a comparison will be made between Planet-A and Planet-B, the planet-A will be called 'Good' than planet-B. In the table below, same concept has been used. Whatever the maximum and minimum beneficence (or maleficence) values have been obtained between the 9 planets, a comparative categorization, like 'Excellent', 'Good', 'Worst' etc., has been done between the available value ranges. Thus, though a planet might be showing negative value in the table below, but it may still be far better than some other planets (with higher negative values) and thus may have been assigned the category of 'Good' or 'Average'. In your natal chart, the maximum beneficence value is 111.93 and the minimum beneficence is -123.26. Sun : -24.62 Inadequate (Slightly negative) Moon : 30.84 Fair (Slightly positive) Mars : -123.26 Worst (Very negative) Mercury: 111.93 Excellent (Very positive) Jupiter: 7.80 Average (Mixed results) Venus : 52.82 Good (Positive) Saturn : -94.05 Worst (Very negative) Rahu : -68.33 Poor (Negative) Ketu : 23.33 Fair (Slightly positive) Best wishes Shyaam http://www.vjyotish.com ======================= To know more about “Vjyotish”, please visit: http://www.vjyotish.com --- annpatni <annpatni wrote: > Is saturn a benefic in this chart? > date of birth-11 dec 1972 > Place-Indore > time-03.23 Am > Thanks for reply > Anamika. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 dear syamji, As per my little understanding For a Tula Lagna... Sani is lord of 4th and 5th and is therefore a yogakaraka planet. Consequently the natives of this Ascendant will enjoy benefical results in subperiods of shani Also in Tula Lagna. Mangal looses its malefic nature as lord of the angular 7th, and is an impressionable neutral as the 2nd lord, but its additional status as a double maraka apparently impels the Sage to classify it as a malefic, as he did with Sukra for Mesha lagna. Sukra is designated as a neutral even though it is the lagna lord. This is readily understandable based on the principle that benefics ruling angles lose their benefic nature, which is especially damaging in the case of Venus since it is the strongest benefic. This, combined with its simultaneous lordship of the banefully neutral 8th house, is why a normally auspicious lagna lord gets neutralized. Now Sukra and Mangal are conjunct in Lagna. Sukra and Mangal in Lagna could cause problems in general life affairs. In Navamsa: I have Dhana Lagna in Navamsa and Mangal is functional benefic placed in 5th Kona. So this Mangal is dramatically improving in Navamsa. Sukra becomes a potent malefic in Navamsa placed in the 7th. So the Karma of Mangal is high whereas the one for Sukra is dropping. can anyone throw some light on this concept? thanks, Anamika. vedic astrology, Shyaam Sunder Kansal <shyaamkansal> wrote: > Dear Anamika > > I think, Saturn is the second most malefic planet in > your chart after Mars. You are considering Saturn as > benefic because it is Lord of 5th and Lord of 4th. OK? > You are correct if we consider general principles of > determining the functional benefics and malefics only. > However, when we apply the principles told in various > other streams of Vedic Jyotish to measure the exact > benefic or malefic nature of the planets in your natal > chart – picture gets reversed. Saturn comes out as one > of the most malefic planet. > > During its Vimsottari periods (specially the > sub-period of Saturn), you might get very adverse > results pertaining to the significations of 4th House > (Home, general happiness, peace of mind, property, > mother etc.); 5th House (children, creativity, > romance etc); and 8th House (longevity, defeat or > insult, accidents, sudden losses etc.). > > You have been under Jupiter-Saturn dasa from 30th June > 2001 to 12th January 2004. Can you provide me your > feedback about what I said above? > > I have programmed a "'Vjyotish beneficence scale" in > which the importance of various astrological > parameters has been calibrated very carefully - as > told in ancient Vedic Jyotish texts. In this report, > at times, some special Jyotish principles may > over-shadow the net result obtained through the > normally used Parashari principles to determine the > beneficence of a planet. In such cases, these special > principles will prevail and may reduce (or enhance) > beneficence of a planet considerably. > > On 'Vjyotish beneficence scale', Mercury stands out as > the best planet for you. It's Vimsottari-periods will > generally be the excellent periods of your life. > Specially those periods - where Mercury simultaneously > holds portfolios of Mahadasa Lord, Antardasa Lord and > Pratyantar dasa lord (i.e., when you are running under > 'Mercury-Mercury-Mercury' dasa, or atleast, Mercury is > the 'Antardasa lord'[AD Lord] ). > > On the same 'Vjyotish beneficence scale', Mars has > been determined as the most damaging planet in your > chart. It's Vimsottari-periods will generally be the > trying periods of your life. You need to be extra > cautious when you are under Vimsottari dasa of > 'Mars-Mars-Mars' or when Mars is the 'Antardasa > lord'[AD Lord]. > > In the following report, normally, the values around > zero should be considered as average beneficence while > increasing negative values here denote increasing > malefic nature of the concerned planets in your chart > due to various astrological parameters. Same way, > higher positive values indicate higher benefic nature > of the planets concerned. > > However, we have to remember that the terms 'Good', > 'Poor' etc. are comparative. Planet-A might be > negative but much less negative than Planet-B. Thus, > when a comparison will be made between Planet-A and > Planet-B, the planet-A will be called 'Good' than > planet-B. In the table below, same concept has been > used. Whatever the maximum and minimum beneficence (or > maleficence) values have been obtained between the 9 > planets, a comparative categorization, like > 'Excellent', 'Good', 'Worst' etc., has been done > between the available value ranges. Thus, though a > planet might be showing negative value in the table > below, but it may still be far better than some other > planets (with higher negative values) and thus may > have been assigned the category of 'Good' or > 'Average'. > > In your natal chart, the maximum beneficence value is > 111.93 and the minimum beneficence is -123.26. > > Sun : -24.62 Inadequate (Slightly negative) > Moon : 30.84 Fair (Slightly positive) > Mars : -123.26 Worst (Very negative) > Mercury: 111.93 Excellent (Very positive) > Jupiter: 7.80 Average (Mixed results) > Venus : 52.82 Good (Positive) > Saturn : -94.05 Worst (Very negative) > Rahu : -68.33 Poor (Negative) > Ketu : 23.33 Fair (Slightly positive) > > Best wishes > Shyaam > http://www.vjyotish.com > > ======================= > To know more about "Vjyotish", please visit: > http://www.vjyotish.com > > --- annpatni <annpatni> wrote: > > > Is saturn a benefic in this chart? > > date of birth-11 dec 1972 > > Place-Indore > > time-03.23 Am > > Thanks for reply > > Anamika. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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