Guru-To Pradeep

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Om Gurave Namah

 

Namaste Pradeep,

 

As promised I am back, ( Phew! after a valiant fight with my younger son (10yrs)

for computer time), with my analysis of the following charts and hope for your

feedback.

 

Also you might have seen jupiter in 7th harming the indications of that

bhava.Kumari Jayalalitha,Tamil nadu CM being the best example.You might have

seen Mr.Gokul,mentioning about Jupiter in 7th, couple of weeks back.(VA list)

Jayalalitha has Hamsa yoga infact.Here it doesnt mean ,Jupiter harms

Jayalalitha in total.It was w.r to the bhava alone.Strong jupiter blessed her

with wisdom,knowledge,fame power etc.

 

Lakshmi: Jayalalitha does have a super strong Jupiter in 7th and Venus, the

kalatrakaraka, is also exalted. But, unfortunately these two benefics are

involved a strong parivraja yoga, Jupiter in the 3rd from AL and Venus in the

6th from AL make a person a renunciate and since both these planets concern

“kalatra”, her renunciation of marital ties happened. Further, AL and A7 are in

dwirdwadasa position and mercury, the lord of 7th from Venus and dispositor of

A7 is in 12th from Venus.

 

Ref: Varahamihira archives

 

Rabindranath Tagore did have problems with progeny when it was placed in

5th(exalted),though he had fame and intelligence(Kraka reason is also there).

 

Lakshmi: Yes, apparently the problem seems to be with Jupiter. But, it’s not as

though Jupiter in 5th denied him progeny. Sadly the children did not survive. I

searched around for the tentative time of their demise and from Sanjayji’s book

on Narayan Dasa I found that the losses occurred during 1902-1907. I checked up

the Vimsottari dasa and it was sun dasa operating for most of the time. Sun is

the 2nd lord from 5th house and placed in the 2nd to the lord of the 5th house.

He is also the 12th lord from 7th house and is conjunct Venus, who is both the

7th and 12th lord from his 9th house.

 

The 5th house is itself is in papakartari and the 5th lord Moon is extremely

weak, lacking pakshabala. I wouldn’t be surprised if the deaths of the

children occurred in the later half of sun dasa and beginning of the Moon

dasa. I wish I had the exact dates though.

 

So, in the ultimate analysis, it is not Jupiter who is the culprit, but some

other factors like the house itself and the house lord. See my point?

 

I’ll look at the other charts tomorrow and send you a private mail, as I

wouldn't like to impose on the list. Right now I am rushing off to Tirumala for

witnessing the famous “Garuda Seva” held on the 5th day of Brahmotsavam .

 

Om Namo Naarayanaaya

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

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Dear Lakshmi ji

 

Hope you are back after the utsavam!

 

Lakshmi: Jayalalitha does have a super strong Jupiter in 7th and

Venus,the kalatrakaraka, is also exalted. But, unfortunately these

two benefics are involved a strong parivraja yoga, Jupiter in the

3rd from AL and Venus in the 6th from AL make a person a renunciate

and since both these planets concern "kalatra", her renunciation of

marital ties happened. Further, AL and A7 are in dwirdwadasa position

and mercury, the lord of 7th from Venus and dispositor of A7 is in

12th from Venus.

 

I have little knowledge regarding AL, based analysis.So far I have

only tried to observe AL, aspects on it and kendra/trines from

it.Thus kindly excuse my ignorance.

 

Now should we consider Venus or Jupiter as kalatra karaka for ladies?

I always had Jupiter in that place in my imaginations.Perhaps I am

wrong.

 

In addition to the dictum,Jupiter has kendradosha in her case(lording

strong 7th &10th) and especially by virtue of its maraka ,7th,

placement.Thus Jupiter no doubt may harm 7th house indications.Also

observe that she has difficulties in maintaining

relationships,whether

it is a coalition partner or otherwise.This can be because of the

dominating nature of jupiter?.Moreover it was not that,she was

against the fruits of 7th house,considering her association with

late shri MGR.

Mahapurusha as I have mentioned before, being a quality, will be

there in an inherent form.This can be observed in a manifest form,

from her -spiritual nature,belief in astrology,knowledge(not

academic),wisdom,confidence etc.

 

Her professional success can be more because of Venus.Trinal lord

exalted in the strongest kendra, again giving another Mahapurusha

quality.

 

Thus even if we ignore,the AL considerations,there are enough

indications related to 7th bhava and jupiter.

 

Rabindranath Tagore, was a poor example I believe.Thanks for your

observations.

 

Regds

Pradeep

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, lakshmi ramesh

<b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:

>

> Om Gurave Namah

>

>

>

> Namaste Pradeep,

>

>

>

> As promised I am back, ( Phew! after a valiant fight with my

younger son (10yrs) for computer time), with my analysis of the

following charts and hope for your feedback.

>

>

>

> Also you might have seen jupiter in 7th harming the indications

of that bhava.Kumari Jayalalitha,Tamil nadu CM being the best

example.You might have seen Mr.Gokul,mentioning about Jupiter in

7th, couple of weeks back.(VA list) Jayalalitha has Hamsa yoga

infact.Here it doesnt mean ,Jupiter harms Jayalalitha in total.It

was w.r to the bhava alone.Strong jupiter blessed her with

wisdom,knowledge,fame power etc.

>

>

>

> Lakshmi: Jayalalitha does have a super strong Jupiter in 7th and

Venus, the kalatrakaraka, is also exalted. But, unfortunately these

two benefics are involved a strong parivraja yoga, Jupiter in the

3rd from AL and Venus in the 6th from AL make a person a renunciate

and since both these planets concern "kalatra", her renunciation of

marital ties happened. Further, AL and A7 are in dwirdwadasa

position and mercury, the lord of 7th from Venus and dispositor of

A7 is in 12th from Venus.

>

>

>

> Ref: Varahamihira archives

>

>

>

> Rabindranath Tagore did have problems with progeny when it was

placed in 5th(exalted),though he had fame and intelligence(Kraka

reason is also there).

>

>

>

> Lakshmi: Yes, apparently the problem seems to be with Jupiter.

But, it's not as though Jupiter in 5th denied him progeny. Sadly the

children did not survive. I searched around for the tentative time

of their demise and from Sanjayji's book on Narayan Dasa I found

that the losses occurred during 1902-1907. I checked up the

Vimsottari dasa and it was sun dasa operating for most of the time.

Sun is the 2nd lord from 5th house and placed in the 2nd to the lord

of the 5th house. He is also the 12th lord from 7th house and is

conjunct Venus, who is both the 7th and 12th lord from his 9th

house.

>

>

>

> The 5th house is itself is in papakartari and the 5th lord Moon

is extremely weak, lacking pakshabala. I wouldn't be surprised if

the deaths of the children occurred in the later half of sun dasa

and beginning of the Moon dasa. I wish I had the exact dates

though.

>

>

>

> So, in the ultimate analysis, it is not Jupiter who is the

culprit, but some other factors like the house itself and the house

lord. See my point?

>

>

>

> I'll look at the other charts tomorrow and send you a private

mail, as I wouldn't like to impose on the list. Right now I am

rushing off to Tirumala for witnessing the famous "Garuda Seva" held

on the 5th day of Brahmotsavam .

>

>

>

> Om Namo Naarayanaaya

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Lakshmi

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>