Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 FORBES magazine Rated SONIA G as third most powerful Lady in the world while AB VAJPAYEE and BJP have reached Doldrums in politics. VERY CONTRARY TO WHAT THE GREAT VEDIC ASTROLOGERS OF INDIA PREDICTED RECENTLY,ESPECIALLY NARSIMA YOUR PAL SANJAY RATH . NARSIMA YOU YOURSELF HAVE PREDICTED great things for india after 2000ad but please come to India( AS I HAVE COME AFTER 7YRS ) and see the conditions it is deplorable,Things in Corruption Dirt Number of people Lawlessness Have risen exponentially.INDIA is on a downward journey of SELF IMMOLATION and Evey election in INDIA since 1991 has proved to be a graveyard for astrologers.But astrologers instead of behaving like arrogant ignorant people need to become humble and do more sadhana. regards DBOO LUND ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Dear Deboo Lund, You have raised a raised a noticeable point. I am not a great jyothishi but am an humble student of the subject. I feel I could add my thoughts. Astrology is a very liberal translation. The correct word is "Jyothisha". Jyothi means Light and Isha means everything that persists. It can be understood as a science that gives light in the present world. My ignorance in English language will not help in giving you the true translation of the word. Jyothisha helps a man by giving him a torch in a dark room. The rest, he has to take care of himself. The theory of fate and freewill is applicable. An illustration here would not be out of point. Jyothisha indicates to a starving man that the next day, he will come across a garden, full of apple trees. When the man reaches the garden (fate), it is by his efforts that he needs to go and procure the apple for himself. He cannot stand beneath a tree and expect the apple to fall down (If that was to happen, he would probably end up getting rotten ones). He needs to go and get things for himself. This is freewill. By indicating that a man comes across an apple garden, it is not guaranteed that the person will also eat and enjoy it. You have rightly pointed out that Sonia Gandhi has been rated as the third most powerful lady. God Bless Her. However, you might have also noticed that the present period saw the rise of a few industrialists like Narayana Murthy of Infosys, Azim Premji of Wipro, Tatas etc. If you go by the theory of relativity, things have been better compared to what was present earlier. Mundane affairs were predicted to be better than what was prevalent then. The introduction of Liberalization, Privatization and Globalization into India is a good and positive step. Companies in India are competing on a global scale. Of course, in a game of life, the graph need not always be in one direction. It can have opposite movements too. You should interpret them as you would do of a graph of stock market. If, in a span of 20 days, the stock prices ended higher except for 5th, 9th, 16th and 20th day, we don't conclude that the market is underperforming because on the 20th day it went down. You will have to do a trend analysis and look at the chart on a relative term. About the corruption that is prevalent, I do not agree with your point. I do recognize the fact that corruption persists, but exponential growth, if any, should be proved with quantitative data or secondary source references. If a prediction is made, a jyothishi will have made it after considerable analysis and judgment. If the prediction does not come true, it could mean that there could be other influences which are not easily identifiable and beyond the understanding of Man. The world is a creation with complex mechanisms involved. Understanding of each and every aspect of the functioning of the globe, hence the solar system and further extending it to the Universe, could involve a couple of "man lives". When doctors perform surgery, do they guarantee that the patient will survive? At the same time, the doctor need not necessarily be always correct in diagnosing the outcome. If we were to look at such points, then it would be quite difficult for us to find a perfect doctor who has been always successful. There are these so called "life saving drugs". Then why is that no one has yet become immortal? Does it mean that the R&D people who have developed these have to stop researching on getting better and new drugs? There are some things that are beyond the control of man and we all have to respect that. I am sure you will find my points logical. Om Tat Sat, Raman Suprajarama ______ deboo lund [deboo_lund] Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:08 AM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] SONIA GANDHI/NARSIMA RAO HI Great Jyotish Masters of India FORBES magazine Rated SONIA G as third most powerful Lady in the world while AB VAJPAYEE and BJP have reached Doldrums in politics. VERY CONTRARY TO WHAT THE GREAT VEDIC ASTROLOGERS OF INDIA PREDICTED RECENTLY,ESPECIALLY NARSIMA YOUR PAL SANJAY RATH . NARSIMA YOU YOURSELF HAVE PREDICTED great things for india after 2000ad but please come to India( AS I HAVE COME AFTER 7YRS ) and see the conditions it is deplorable,Things in Corruption Dirt Number of people Lawlessness Have risen exponentially.INDIA is on a downward journey of SELF IMMOLATION and Evey election in INDIA since 1991 has proved to be a graveyard for astrologers.But astrologers instead of behaving like arrogant ignorant people need to become humble and do more sadhana. regards DBOO LUND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Namaste Deboo, Because my name came up, I need to clarify a few things: (1) Pt. Sanjay Rath is not my "pal". He is my guru. (2) I did predict a great period for India during its Libra Narayana dasa (Aug 2002-Aug 2011). However, it is silly to expect India to become number one and other countries to fall behind in this period. It is also silly to expect overnight change. Change takes time. It is a slow process. A third world country does not become a super power in one day or one decade. It is a process that takes decades. But I reckon that it has started in India. My prediction basically is that this 9 year period will make a huge difference to India's status in the world. I made this prediction in 2000. Compared to then, is there no difference in India's status? If you don't think there is improvement, I can only say you have unrealistic expectations and were expecting topo much. Moreover, only 2 years of this dasa are over and 7 more years are still left. My prediction is not that China, USA etc will fall and that only India will become a Super Power. My prediction is that India will have a much higher position in the world in 2012 than in 2001 (i.e. relatively) and India will be a super power, along with other super powers. Instead of looking at India negatively and cynically, try to appreciate the progress that is taking place (though a lot more still remains). (3) Above all, it is quite possible for my my prediction to go wrong. I made wrong predictions and will probably make more. There is no need to get charged up. In any case, I honestly think this particular prediction is not wrong. It is slowly coming true and anyway there is more time. (4) It is true that astrologers should be humble and try to do more sadhana. I do my own limited sadhana as time permits and I sincerely try to be humble, but it is not very easy. We all have some ego and it is tough to overcome. Before we tell something to others, we should follow it ourselves. (5) BTW, in politics, "doldrums" is a relative word and the distance between "doldrums" and "the top of the world" is very small. Sonia Gandhi and her party were in doldrums not long ago. Now they are on top. Who knows where BJP will be in another year or year and a half? > HI Great Jyotish Masters of India> FORBES magazine Rated SONIA G as third most powerful Lady in the world while AB VAJPAYEE and BJP have reached Doldrums in politics.> VERY CONTRARY TO WHAT THE GREAT VEDIC ASTROLOGERS OF INDIA PREDICTED RECENTLY,ESPECIALLY NARSIMA YOUR PAL SANJAY RATH . NARSIMA YOU YOURSELF HAVE PREDICTED great things for india after 2000ad but please come to India( AS I HAVE COME AFTER 7YRS ) and see the conditions it is deplorable,Things in Corruption Dirt Number of people Lawlessness Have risen exponentially.INDIA is on a downward journey of SELF IMMOLATION and Evey election in INDIA since 1991 has proved to be a graveyard for astrologers.But astrologers instead of behaving like arrogant ignorant people need to become humble and do more sadhana.> regards> DBOO LUND May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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