Guest guest Posted January 25, 2005 Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 Dear All, I posted this yesterday. It would be great if somebody could explain it to me a little about this. What I don't understand is, if lagna lord (say Jupiter) being placed badly, say in 3rd house, can it do harm to the person during its maha dasa (jupiter mahadasa). Because Jupiter being lagna lord (pisces), it cannot do harm to itself during that period, or can it?.. by being placed badly, will it also affect the aspects (in this case 7th , 9th and 11th house)?.. please see below for more explanation. I am still learning astrology and I am confused by this. Any help would be appreciated.. thanks partha vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> wrote: Dear All, I have been reading the messages posted here about aspects and placements and I am little bit confused.. Say suppose if a benefic planet, Jupiter is placed in 3rd house in rishaba (taurus) which is venus's house. Jupiter is also the lagna lord (Pisces) and 10th lord. He sees 7th house, 9th house and 11th house. What will be the effect on 3rd house, 7th, 9th, 11th house and lagna and 10th house during Jupiter maha dasa.. Also I have read in some places that jupiter in 3rd house is okay but in some other places 3rd house is equated along with 6th, 8th and 12th house and it is said that the placement is bad. could anyone explain me a little more.. In case if jupiter in 3rd is bad, will it also affect 7th, 9th, 11th house because of bad placement during Jupiter maha dasa?. I have read the previous messages posted here in this group and I also searched for this one. I am unable to find this information and I would really appreciate if someone teaches me this. Thanks in advance. thanks partha --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Dear Partha Namaskar Jupiter in 3 house is badly places because it is the Marana Karaka Sthana, place where natural signification of planet are dying. Third house is the house of copulation and war where Jupiter finds no place. If Lagnesh is Jupiter in Third house it can mean that You are feeling like dying but other factors can improve this. Mahadasa of Marana Karaka Sthana planets are generally not good but it also depend on other placements. Sanjay Ji wrote that Jupiter in 3h also can indicate stomach problems. Aspected house will also be in problem by this position. with respect, Rafal vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> wrote: > > Dear All, > I posted this yesterday. It would be great if somebody could explain > it to me a little about this. What I don't understand is, if lagna > lord (say Jupiter) being placed badly, say in 3rd house, can it do > harm to the person during its maha dasa (jupiter mahadasa). Because > Jupiter being lagna lord (pisces), it cannot do harm to itself > during that period, or can it?.. by being placed badly, will it also > affect the aspects (in this case 7th , 9th and 11th house)?.. please > see below for more explanation. I am still learning astrology and I > am confused by this. Any help would be appreciated.. > > thanks > partha > > vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> > wrote: > > Dear All, > I have been reading the messages posted here about aspects and > placements and I am little bit confused.. Say suppose if a benefic > planet, Jupiter is placed in 3rd house in rishaba (taurus) which is > venus's house. Jupiter is also the lagna lord (Pisces) and 10th > lord. He sees 7th house, 9th house and 11th house. What will be the > effect on 3rd house, 7th, 9th, 11th house and lagna and 10th house > during Jupiter maha dasa.. > > Also I have read in some places that jupiter in 3rd house is okay > but in some other places 3rd house is equated along with 6th, 8th > and 12th house and it is said that the placement is bad. could > anyone explain me a little more.. > > In case if jupiter in 3rd is bad, will it also affect 7th, 9th, 11th > house because of bad placement during Jupiter maha dasa?. > > I have read the previous messages posted here in this group and I > also searched for this one. I am unable to find this information and > I would really appreciate if someone teaches me this. Thanks in > advance. > > thanks > partha > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Dear Shri Rafal , Why the maran karka shtan for sun is 12th .. 12th is house of Moksha and sun can pure the soul with its heat . Do the planets being exalted in MaranaKarana sthana are unable to give good results .. taurus lagna , sun in aries and jupitor in cancer .. Thanks Amit vedic astrology, "jyotraff" <jyotraff> wrote: > > Dear Partha > Namaskar > > Jupiter in 3 house is badly places because it is the Marana Karaka > Sthana, place where natural signification of planet are dying. Third > house is the house of copulation and war where Jupiter finds no > place. If Lagnesh is Jupiter in Third house it can mean that You are > feeling like dying but other factors can improve this. > > Mahadasa of Marana Karaka Sthana planets are generally not good but > it also depend on other placements. Sanjay Ji wrote that Jupiter in > 3h also can indicate stomach problems. > > Aspected house will also be in problem by this position. > > > > > with respect, > Rafal > > > vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> > wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > I posted this yesterday. It would be great if somebody could > explain > > it to me a little about this. What I don't understand is, if lagna > > lord (say Jupiter) being placed badly, say in 3rd house, can it do > > harm to the person during its maha dasa (jupiter mahadasa). > Because > > Jupiter being lagna lord (pisces), it cannot do harm to itself > > during that period, or can it?.. by being placed badly, will it > also > > affect the aspects (in this case 7th , 9th and 11th house)?.. > please > > see below for more explanation. I am still learning astrology and > I > > am confused by this. Any help would be appreciated.. > > > > thanks > > partha > > > > vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> > > wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > I have been reading the messages posted here about aspects and > > placements and I am little bit confused.. Say suppose if a benefic > > planet, Jupiter is placed in 3rd house in rishaba (taurus) which > is > > venus's house. Jupiter is also the lagna lord (Pisces) and 10th > > lord. He sees 7th house, 9th house and 11th house. What will be > the > > effect on 3rd house, 7th, 9th, 11th house and lagna and 10th house > > during Jupiter maha dasa.. > > > > Also I have read in some places that jupiter in 3rd house is okay > > but in some other places 3rd house is equated along with 6th, 8th > > and 12th house and it is said that the placement is bad. could > > anyone explain me a little more.. > > > > In case if jupiter in 3rd is bad, will it also affect 7th, 9th, > 11th > > house because of bad placement during Jupiter maha dasa?. > > > > I have read the previous messages posted here in this group and I > > also searched for this one. I am unable to find this information > and > > I would really appreciate if someone teaches me this. Thanks in > > advance. > > > > thanks > > partha > > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 vedic astrology, "ak_131" <agrawal.amitk@g...> wrote: > > Dear Shri Rafal , > Why the maran karka shtan for sun is 12th .. 12th is house of > Moksha and sun can pure the soul with its heat . Do the planets being > exalted in MaranaKarana sthana are unable to give good results .. > taurus lagna , sun in aries and jupitor in cancer .. > Thanks > Amit > > Dear Amit Namaskar Visti Ji said that "the sun which has natural tendency to give has to beg in 12H". There can be also other factors, 2,12,6,8 houses are hidden houses - so Sun has His light and this Light is hidden. Moksha is especially seen in 12H from Karakamsa not from Rasi Lagna. Planets which are in good position/state helps but indication stays. Like I have Lagnesh in MKS in exaltation, so i have no problems in health(Lagnesh) but I have problem in educational field (mercury in 4). So of course, exaltation helps much. with respect, Rafal > > > > vedic astrology, "jyotraff" <jyotraff> wrote: > > > > Dear Partha > > Namaskar > > > > Jupiter in 3 house is badly places because it is the Marana Karaka > > Sthana, place where natural signification of planet are dying. Third > > house is the house of copulation and war where Jupiter finds no > > place. If Lagnesh is Jupiter in Third house it can mean that You are > > feeling like dying but other factors can improve this. > > > > Mahadasa of Marana Karaka Sthana planets are generally not good but > > it also depend on other placements. Sanjay Ji wrote that Jupiter in > > 3h also can indicate stomach problems. > > > > Aspected house will also be in problem by this position. > > > > > > > > > > with respect, > > Rafal > > > > > > vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > I posted this yesterday. It would be great if somebody could > > explain > > > it to me a little about this. What I don't understand is, if lagna > > > lord (say Jupiter) being placed badly, say in 3rd house, can it do > > > harm to the person during its maha dasa (jupiter mahadasa). > > Because > > > Jupiter being lagna lord (pisces), it cannot do harm to itself > > > during that period, or can it?.. by being placed badly, will it > > also > > > affect the aspects (in this case 7th , 9th and 11th house)?.. > > please > > > see below for more explanation. I am still learning astrology and > > I > > > am confused by this. Any help would be appreciated.. > > > > > > thanks > > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > I have been reading the messages posted here about aspects and > > > placements and I am little bit confused.. Say suppose if a benefic > > > planet, Jupiter is placed in 3rd house in rishaba (taurus) which > > is > > > venus's house. Jupiter is also the lagna lord (Pisces) and 10th > > > lord. He sees 7th house, 9th house and 11th house. What will be > > the > > > effect on 3rd house, 7th, 9th, 11th house and lagna and 10th house > > > during Jupiter maha dasa.. > > > > > > Also I have read in some places that jupiter in 3rd house is okay > > > but in some other places 3rd house is equated along with 6th, 8th > > > and 12th house and it is said that the placement is bad. could > > > anyone explain me a little more.. > > > > > > In case if jupiter in 3rd is bad, will it also affect 7th, 9th, > > 11th > > > house because of bad placement during Jupiter maha dasa?. > > > > > > I have read the previous messages posted here in this group and I > > > also searched for this one. I am unable to find this information > > and > > > I would really appreciate if someone teaches me this. Thanks in > > > advance. > > > > > > thanks > > > partha > > > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Dear Rafal and respected all, Thank you very much for your comments. What I don't understand is why if lagna lord Jupiter placed in 3rd house would harm the person?. If Jupiter is not a lagna lord and placed in 3rd, then I can understand that it would harm the person. But by being lagna lord why would Jupiter harm the person (its like me hitting and harming myself). Lagna lord Jupiter being in 3rd house should help the 3rd house, isn't it?. you said other factors can improve the placement of jupiter in 3rd, can you tell me?. Also, you told me that Mahadasa of Jupiter will be better depending on other placements. I attached my details below and it would be great if you could take a look into it and let me know how Jupiter mahadasa is going to be for me?.. I thank all the respected members and Gurus who post their messages here because it really helps me in understanding astrology.. Pob : madras, india 80'E17 , 13'N05 Tob : 7.10Pm Dob : 09/24/1976 thanks partha vedic astrology, "jyotraff" <jyotraff> wrote: > > Dear Partha > Namaskar > > Jupiter in 3 house is badly places because it is the Marana Karaka > Sthana, place where natural signification of planet are dying. Third > house is the house of copulation and war where Jupiter finds no > place. If Lagnesh is Jupiter in Third house it can mean that You are > feeling like dying but other factors can improve this. > > Mahadasa of Marana Karaka Sthana planets are generally not good but > it also depend on other placements. Sanjay Ji wrote that Jupiter in > 3h also can indicate stomach problems. > > Aspected house will also be in problem by this position. > > > > > with respect, > Rafal > > > vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> > wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > I posted this yesterday. It would be great if somebody could > explain > > it to me a little about this. What I don't understand is, if lagna > > lord (say Jupiter) being placed badly, say in 3rd house, can it do > > harm to the person during its maha dasa (jupiter mahadasa). > Because > > Jupiter being lagna lord (pisces), it cannot do harm to itself > > during that period, or can it?.. by being placed badly, will it > also > > affect the aspects (in this case 7th , 9th and 11th house)?.. > please > > see below for more explanation. I am still learning astrology and > I > > am confused by this. Any help would be appreciated.. > > > > thanks > > partha > > > > vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> > > wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > I have been reading the messages posted here about aspects and > > placements and I am little bit confused.. Say suppose if a benefic > > planet, Jupiter is placed in 3rd house in rishaba (taurus) which > is > > venus's house. Jupiter is also the lagna lord (Pisces) and 10th > > lord. He sees 7th house, 9th house and 11th house. What will be > the > > effect on 3rd house, 7th, 9th, 11th house and lagna and 10th house > > during Jupiter maha dasa.. > > > > Also I have read in some places that jupiter in 3rd house is okay > > but in some other places 3rd house is equated along with 6th, 8th > > and 12th house and it is said that the placement is bad. could > > anyone explain me a little more.. > > > > In case if jupiter in 3rd is bad, will it also affect 7th, 9th, > 11th > > house because of bad placement during Jupiter maha dasa?. > > > > I have read the previous messages posted here in this group and I > > also searched for this one. I am unable to find this information > and > > I would really appreciate if someone teaches me this. Thanks in > > advance. > > > > thanks > > partha > > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 Dear A,ot Sun is the natural Atmakaraka and also the karaka for the first house(lagna). Hence the atma gets dissolved in the pure bliss of parmatma that is 12th house. For normal mundane purposes sun in 12th is bad, but for spirituality it is a good placement. best wishes partha On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:46:55 -0000, ak_131 <agrawal.amitk wrote: > > > Dear Shri Rafal , > Why the maran karka shtan for sun is 12th .. 12th is house of > Moksha and sun can pure the soul with its heat . Do the planets being > exalted in MaranaKarana sthana are unable to give good results .. > taurus lagna , sun in aries and jupitor in cancer .. > Thanks > Amit > > > vedic astrology, "jyotraff" <jyotraff> wrote: > > > > Dear Partha > > Namaskar > > > > Jupiter in 3 house is badly places because it is the Marana Karaka > > Sthana, place where natural signification of planet are dying. Third > > house is the house of copulation and war where Jupiter finds no > > place. If Lagnesh is Jupiter in Third house it can mean that You are > > feeling like dying but other factors can improve this. > > > > Mahadasa of Marana Karaka Sthana planets are generally not good but > > it also depend on other placements. Sanjay Ji wrote that Jupiter in > > 3h also can indicate stomach problems. > > > > Aspected house will also be in problem by this position. > > > > > > > > > > with respect, > > Rafal > > > > > > vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > I posted this yesterday. It would be great if somebody could > > explain > > > it to me a little about this. What I don't understand is, if lagna > > > lord (say Jupiter) being placed badly, say in 3rd house, can it do > > > harm to the person during its maha dasa (jupiter mahadasa). > > Because > > > Jupiter being lagna lord (pisces), it cannot do harm to itself > > > during that period, or can it?.. by being placed badly, will it > > also > > > affect the aspects (in this case 7th , 9th and 11th house)?.. > > please > > > see below for more explanation. I am still learning astrology and > > I > > > am confused by this. Any help would be appreciated.. > > > > > > thanks > > > partha > > > > > > vedic astrology, "partha_r" <partha_r> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > I have been reading the messages posted here about aspects and > > > placements and I am little bit confused.. Say suppose if a benefic > > > planet, Jupiter is placed in 3rd house in rishaba (taurus) which > > is > > > venus's house. Jupiter is also the lagna lord (Pisces) and 10th > > > lord. He sees 7th house, 9th house and 11th house. What will be > > the > > > effect on 3rd house, 7th, 9th, 11th house and lagna and 10th house > > > during Jupiter maha dasa.. > > > > > > Also I have read in some places that jupiter in 3rd house is okay > > > but in some other places 3rd house is equated along with 6th, 8th > > > and 12th house and it is said that the placement is bad. could > > > anyone explain me a little more.. > > > > > > In case if jupiter in 3rd is bad, will it also affect 7th, 9th, > > 11th > > > house because of bad placement during Jupiter maha dasa?. > > > > > > I have read the previous messages posted here in this group and I > > > also searched for this one. I am unable to find this information > > and > > > I would really appreciate if someone teaches me this. Thanks in > > > advance. > > > > > > thanks > > > partha > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links > > > > > -- V.Partha Sarathy, partvinu.blogspot.com All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him. -----Buddha Plot.no.71 Road No.3 Nagarjuna Hills Hyderabad India-500 082 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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