Razdan - Why astrologers failed to predict my Jupitor Maha Dasha.

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Dear Razdan and All,

Can you give me which houses are bad for each lagna lord and also

puran karaks for each lagna.. or can you give me a site address

where I can find it.

What is ashub house for guru for meena (pisces) lagna.. and also

what is the puran karak and karak for meena (pisces) lagna.

 

thanks

partha

 

vedic astrology, PNRazdan <pnrazdan>

wrote:

> Dear All,

> This point seems to have been dragged in different directions

> unncecessarily. Guru is a Karak for Dhanu lagna and not a puran

karak.

> So one should not expect miracles from it as compared to Sun which

is a

> puran karak.Besides Guru in 2,8 and 10th house in Dhanu lagna is

ashub.

> The KP dosh too is misinterpreted sometimes. As Lagu Parashari

says. KP

> dosh only ceases the planet to operate and give its results, both

> malefic and benefic ones.

> So it is obvious that Guru MD shall not do miracles in this case.

Of

> course some periods particularly Sun AD must have been good.

> Pran Razdan

>

> --- sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Namasthe

> >

> > The present controversy regarding the Jupiter and its Dasa

regarding

> > the Dhanu Lagna triggered due to my mail is totally unfound and

> > solely

> > due to jumping to conclusions without grasping the full content

of

> > what was written.

> >

> > My first contention itself was Jupiter is a natural benefic and

being

> > Lagnadhipathy its dasa should be good. Then proceeded to state

why

> > the

> > dasa shall give bad results.

> >

> > Now as far as the Kendradhipathya Dosha is concerned:

> > Argument

> > 1) Jupiter is having Kendradhipathya Dosha due to its owning two

> > kendras

> > Apavada (Counter Argument)

> > (1) Jupiter is Lagnadhipathy

> > (2) Jupiter is in Kendra

> >

> > The above is like

> > (1)There is dosha, but it is countered – How strong ?

> >

> > There wont be apavada if there is no dosha. The apavada is

written

> > only because there is dosha. There are apavadas for benefic

aspects

> > (points) also. Hence one can safely say that the dosha is

> > considerably

> > reduced because of Lagnadhipathya of Jupiter and his Kendra

position.

> > This does not mean that there is no dosha. Only that its

> > manifestation

> > shall be reduced. It is like one has spilt black paint and to

cover

> > it

> > painted white color over it. At some of time the Black paint

shall

> > become visible when the white wears off.

> >

> > When a planets gets bad attributes as well as benefic attributes

its

> > maha dasa shall bear both good and bad, that is mostly it becomes

> > neutral.

> >

> > In analysis, a total view of the chart is considered apart from

the

> > weiteage given in terms of positive and negative aspects (Points)

> > related to the relevant planets/rasi/bhava etc.

> >

> > If my analysis I had given other arguments as to why the dasa

may not

> > give the desired/prescribed/expected good results attributed to

it as

> > a natural benefic and lagnadhipathya.

> >

> >

> > A few quotes

> > "Jeeve Swasthaanahantha Vadanthy"

> > "Munivaro Drishtirasyaa Prasastha"|| Thathwa Pradepam

> >

> >

> > "Swakshetre sabdhasastraadhikari trivedi"

> > "Bahuputravaan sukhee chirayu: gjaanavaan"

> > "Uche poornaphalani"

> > "Shodasa varshe maharajayoga: Arineechapaanaam kshetre"

> > "Papayootheva neechakarmavaan manaschalathwavaan madhyaayu:"

> > "putraheena: swajanaparithyagee krithagna: garvishta:

> > bahujanadweshee"

> > "vyabhichaaravaan sanchaaravaan papakleshabhoghee" || Brigu

Sootram

> >

> > "Sarvamapahaya chinthyam bhagyarksham praninaam visheshena"

> > "Bhagyam vina na janthu: yasmath thad yanathovakshye" || Saravali

> >

> > "Neecharisamstha: papa: bhagye na swoumyasamdrishta:"

> > "durbalamadanam kuryu: vigathakhyathim naram malinam" || Saravali

> > "Ekenapy na drishtam samasthagunavarjitham lagnam"

> > "swagrihaswabhasahitham janayathi khalu kevalam nithyam" ||

Saravali

> >

> > "Swagrihocha swoumyavarge griha: phalam pushtameva viddhathy"

> > "neechaksharipugrihastho vigathaphalam keertitho munibhi:" ||

> > Saravali

> >

> >

> >

> > "Budhadristasthridasaguru: kudumbarasow cha Ni:swatham kuruthe"

> > "somathanayopi sasina nireekshitho handhi sarvadhanam"|| Saravali

> >

> > This verse is not relevant in the contest of the present chart. I

> > have

> > included it only to point out the malefic nature of even sowmya

> > grihas. Note that the word "Hanthi" meaning destroys- one cannot

> > destroy with out its existence in the first place. So it can be

> > assumed there shall be wealth and it will get destroyed. The

question

> > then arises is when?

> > It shall be in the Dasa/Antar/Chidra of mercury or its

> > navamsadhipathy

> > or its nakshatra lord or if there is parivarthana , the

concerned

> > planets. This verse can be considered an apavada for the aspect

> > (Drishti) of benefic planets.

> >

> > Avastha:

> > "Swochbhavathy chadeeptha: swasthaha: swagrihe suhrithgrihe

> > mudithaha:"

> > "santha: subhavargastha: saktha: sputakiranajalascha"

> > "vikalo raviluptha grihobhibhootho nipeedithaschaivom"

> > "papaganasthascha khalo neeche bheetha: samakhyatha:" || Saravali

> >

> > "Dukhairvyadibhiraribhi: prapeedithe peedithakhyaathu"

> > desathdesam vicharanthi bandhu viyogadi samthaptha" || Saravali

> >

> > "Sthanachyuthir bandhuvirodhitha cha deenasyakhedasya dasavipake"

> > "jeevathyasouw kultsithaheenavrithyaa thyaktho janai:

> > roganipeedasyath"|| Parasara

> >

> > "Swasthanaparibrashta: klishtomalina: prayathiparadesam"

> > "vidwasthabalo vikale ripubala sanchakitha chithascha"|| Saravali

> >

> > "Vaikalyayukthakhedadasaavipake vaikalyamayathi manovikaram"

> > "mithradikanam maranam visheshal sthree

puthrayanaambarachorapeedaam"

> > || Parasara

> >

> > Note the difference in the definition of "Vaikaya" by Parasara

and

> > Kalaya Varma. While Parasara defines it as a planets along with

> > Malefic or in Malefic Rasi, Kalaya Varma defines it as a

combusted

> > planet.

> >

> > The author of Madhaveeya Defines a planet in Sathru Rasi as

> > "Dukhitha"

> > and combusted planet as "Vikala"

> >

> > "Karmasthane sthithayasya lajjithastrishithasthavaa"

> > "kshuditha kshobhitho vapisanarodukhabhajanam"|| Parasara

> >

> >

> >

> > An Interesting Point: regarding Retrograde planets

> > (not related with this chart)

> > "Vakrinasthu mahaveerya: Subha: rajyaprada griha:"

> > "Papa: vyasaninampumsam kurvanthicha vrithadanam"

> >

> > Subha Grihas if retrograde is shall confer wealth, prosperity

etc.

> > The

> > Papa Grihas shall give sorrow and shall cause wandering without

> > bearing any fruit.

> >

> > "Ucharasouw vilome cha phalam nanairiheshyathe"

> > "kalasyathibahuthwacha thasmathswochethivakrithe"

> >

> > A planet in exaltation if becomes retrograde looses its power.

> >

> > Argument

> > "Lagnesasya dasa balam bahudhana"

> >

> > Counter/Modification

> >

> > "Bhavadipo balayutho nijagehagamee"

> > "thungatrikonasubhavargathopi poorna:"

> > "jandho phalam khalu karothi yadarineecha"

> > "sthanasthitho asubhaphalam vibalo viseshal"

> >

> > "Putrahanim Pithu: Peeda manasthapo mahan bhavel"

> > "yasman trikonago rihpharandresarkendusooryaja:"

> > "putrapeeda dravyahanisthathrikethwahimsangame"

> > "videshabrahmanam klesho bhayam chaiva pade pade"

> >

> > This verse is notable

> > If 12th or 8th bhadhipathy or sun, Saturn, moon in positioned in

the

> > 5th or 9th from a Bhava , The dasa of its Bhavadhipathy shall

bring

> > bad effects like danger or death of children, ailments to ones

father

> > , mental tensions and sorrow in extremes.

> >

> > Note that Saturn is posited in the 5th from Lagna (that too in

its

> > neecha rasi). Hence the dasa of lagna bhavadhipathy (Jupiter)

shall

> > bring misfortunes.

> >

> > Apart from this the Griha Chara Phala should definitely be

considered

> > while accessing a period. Consider the Saturn's transition

during the

> > period, since Saturn is Neecha and positioned In 5th from lagna

and

> > 8th from the dasa Lord.

> >

> > I hope I have cleared all doubts.

> > Suresh Bahu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, "sadashiva15"

> > <sadashiva15> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear list members,

> > >

> > > Namaskar, My Guru mahadasha is approaching to end. Every

> > > astrologer I met predicted a very good and smooth period for

the

> > whole

> > > mahadasha. But the contrary had happened. Most of the times I

had

> > to

> > > fight to be alive! day by day. I ( having very elementry

knowelegde

> > of

> > > astrology)am not able to find bad indications in my chart. I

> > request

> > > learned members to analyse my chart why this is happning to me.

> > >

> > > DOB - October 2nd 1969

> > > Time - 12:25 PM

> > > Place- 82E54, 25N08.

> > >

> >

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