Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Hi All, Request any learned member reply to the original message as well as the responses. Regards, Kannan "suchitra_kamath" <suchitra_kamath> Mon Feb 7, 2005 6:26 pm Re: Karaka in own house Hi, Would you please elaborate how and why is Jupiter bad in 5.My understanding says that as a naisargik karak of children and knowledge Jupiter in 5 should be good. Please clarify. Regards Suchitra vedic astrology, "ak_131" <agrawal.amitk@g...> wrote: > > Respected Members, > > Please reply to this question . I have heard of jupitor bad in > 5th but not venus bad in 7th (increased sexuality )!!! and this doesnt > say about being in the same house (lord in own house ) as per my > thinking , this says about karka only . > Please enlighten me and others with ur kind views. > Thanks > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> > wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > I have read in an article about UL the following : > > > > "If the Sthira Karaka for spouse (Venus for wife and Jupiter for > > husband) is in own house, the native will be devoid of wife in his > > later years" > > > > Is it true?. If yes, what is the logic/reason behind this. > > > > Thanks > > Kannan Message 49433 of 49463 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] Message Index Msg # Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Jupiter in the Fifth House (Bhigru Sutras ) Sutras 24-31-If Jupiter is in the fifth house, the native will be highly intelligent, will have broad eyes, will be a good conversationalist, full of glory, will feed others, love family and in his 18th year become commander of the army by the favour of the king. He will also have a good number of children who will be prosperous. If the lord of the 5th is strong and at the same time in the house of a malefic or his enemy or he is in his sign of debilitation, there will be loss of children or the native will have only one issue. He will be rich but will suffer loss of wealth on account of penalties imposed by the king (Government). If Jupiter is associated with Rahu or Ketu, the native will suffer loss of his children on account of the wrath of Serpent God but this will not happen if Jupiter is aspected by a benefic. Comments- Effects given in Sutras 25 and 26 are logical and relevant to the significations of Jupiter and the fifth house. It is said that in his 18th year, the native will obtain the position of a commander in the army by the favour of the king. This may be taken to mean that the native will be appointed to a respectable governmental post early in his life. Sutras 26-29 are confusing. It is difficult to believe that the lord of the 5th will be strong and be at the same time in the house of malefic or in the house of his enemy or be in his sign of debilitation. There seems to be some error in printing of the original text. Shri N. N. Krishna Rao has also translated these Sutras according to the above text. His translation is as under:- If dispositor happens to be strong, there will be loss of children; but will have minimum one son; and at the same time if it is situated in a malefic, enemy or debilitation sign, there will be expenses or account of king or govt. We interpret the above Sutras as follows: If the lord of the 5th is strong the native will be wealthy. If the lord of 5th is weak by being in a malefic or enemy's house or in his sign of debilitation, the native will suffer loss of children or will have only one son and will be put to loss of wealth on account of penalties imposed by Government. Bad effects will not be there if there is aspect of a benefic on Jupiter. If Jupiter is in his own sign Sagittarious the ascendant will be Leo and he will be lord of 5th in 5th (there will be very little evil effect of his being lord of 8th also). If Jupiter is in Pisces, the ascendant will be Scorpio and he will be in the 5th as lord of 2nd and 5th. If Jupiter is in Cancer (his sign of exaltation), the ascendant will be Pisces, and he will be in 5th as exalted lord of the ascendant and the 10th. These are very powerful and beneficial dispositions and will greatly improve the good effects of Jupiter in the fifth house. Other Views Brihat Jataka-The native will be intelligent. Phaldeepika-The native will be intelligent and a minister 120 of the king but will be unhappy on account of want of children. Saravali-The native will be happy, will have a good number of children, will be learned, tolerant, and permanently wealthy. Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be fond of luxuries. He will be a good orator and a writer with good imagination. He will sometimes acquire wealth through his children. Note-Saravali agrees substantially with Bhrigu Sutras. Brihat Jataka makes no mention of the children which is the most important signification of Jupiter and the fifth house. Phaldeepika says that the native will suffer on account of the want of children. It seems to favour the 'Karko Bhava Nashyas' theory. We would commend to the reader the effects given by Bhrigu Sutras which have been supported by Saravali. We give below a horoscope which shows how Jupiter in the 5th has given the native four children in spite of malefic associations- vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Request any learned member reply to the original message as well as > the responses. > > Regards, > Kannan > > > "suchitra_kamath" <suchitra_kamath> > Mon Feb 7, 2005 6:26 pm > Re: Karaka in own house > > > > Hi, > > Would you please elaborate how and why is Jupiter bad in 5.My > understanding says that as a naisargik karak of children and > knowledge Jupiter in 5 should be good. > Please clarify. > > Regards > Suchitra > vedic astrology, "ak_131" > <agrawal.amitk@g...> wrote: > > > > Respected Members, > > > > Please reply to this question . I have heard of jupitor bad > in > > 5th but not venus bad in 7th (increased sexuality )!!! and this > doesnt > > say about being in the same house (lord in own house ) as per my > > thinking , this says about karka only . > > Please enlighten me and others with ur kind views. > > Thanks > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > <kankan_73> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > I have read in an article about UL the following : > > > > > > "If the Sthira Karaka for spouse (Venus for wife and Jupiter for > > > husband) is in own house, the native will be devoid of wife in > his > > > later years" > > > > > > Is it true?. If yes, what is the logic/reason behind this. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Kannan > > > > Message 49433 of 49463 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] Message > Index Msg # > > > Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Dear Sir, Thanks for the detailed explanations on Jupiter and 5th house. But what about Venus as Karaka for 7th in any of his own houses? Regards, Kannan vedic astrology, "tw853" <tw853> wrote: > > Jupiter in the Fifth House (Bhigru Sutras ) > > Sutras 24-31-If Jupiter is in the fifth house, the native will be > highly intelligent, will have broad eyes, will be a good > conversationalist, full of glory, will feed others, love family and > in his 18th year become commander of the army by the favour of the > king. He will also have a good number of children who will be > prosperous. If the lord of the 5th is strong and at the same time in > the house of a malefic or his enemy or he is in his sign of > debilitation, there will be loss of children or the native will have > only one issue. He will be rich but will suffer loss of wealth on > account of penalties imposed by the king (Government). If Jupiter is > associated with Rahu or Ketu, the native will suffer loss of his > children on account of the wrath of Serpent God but this will not > happen if Jupiter is aspected by a benefic. > > Comments- > Effects given in Sutras 25 and 26 are logical and relevant to the > significations of Jupiter and the fifth house. It is said that in his > 18th year, the native will obtain the position of a commander in the > army by the favour of the king. This may be taken to mean that the > native will be appointed to a respectable governmental post early in > his life. > Sutras 26-29 are confusing. It is difficult to believe that the lord > of the 5th will be strong and be at the same time in the house of > malefic or in the house of his enemy or be in his sign of > debilitation. There seems to be some error in printing of the > original text. Shri N. N. Krishna Rao has also translated these > Sutras according to the above text. His translation is as under:- > If dispositor happens to be strong, there will be loss of children; > but will have minimum one son; and at the same time if it is situated > in a malefic, enemy or debilitation sign, there will be expenses or > account of king or govt. We interpret the above Sutras as follows: If > the lord of the 5th is strong the native will be wealthy. If the lord > of 5th is weak by being in a malefic or enemy's house or in his sign > of debilitation, the native will suffer loss of children or will have > only one son and will be put to loss of wealth on account of > penalties imposed by Government. Bad effects will not be there if > there is aspect of a benefic on Jupiter. If Jupiter is in his own > sign Sagittarious the ascendant will be Leo and he will be lord of > 5th in 5th (there will be very little evil effect of his being lord > of 8th also). If Jupiter is in Pisces, the ascendant will be Scorpio > and he will be in the 5th as lord of 2nd and 5th. If Jupiter is in > Cancer (his sign of exaltation), the ascendant will be Pisces, and he > will be in 5th as exalted lord of the ascendant and the 10th. These > are very powerful and beneficial dispositions and will greatly > improve the good effects of Jupiter in the fifth house. > > Other Views > Brihat Jataka-The native will be intelligent. > Phaldeepika-The native will be intelligent and a minister 120 of the > king but will be unhappy on account of want of children. > Saravali-The native will be happy, will have a good number of > children, will be learned, tolerant, and permanently wealthy. > Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be fond of luxuries. He will be > a good orator and a writer with good imagination. He will sometimes > acquire wealth through his children. > > Note-Saravali agrees substantially with Bhrigu Sutras. Brihat Jataka > makes no mention of the children which is the most important > signification of Jupiter and the fifth house. Phaldeepika says that > the native will suffer on account of the want of children. It seems > to favour the 'Karko Bhava Nashyas' theory. We would commend to the > reader the effects given by Bhrigu Sutras which have been supported > by Saravali. We give below a horoscope which shows how Jupiter in the > 5th has given the native four children in spite of malefic > associations- > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> > wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Request any learned member reply to the original message as well as > > the responses. > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > > > "suchitra_kamath" <suchitra_kamath> > > Mon Feb 7, 2005 6:26 pm > > Re: Karaka in own house > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Would you please elaborate how and why is Jupiter bad in 5.My > > understanding says that as a naisargik karak of children and > > knowledge Jupiter in 5 should be good. > > Please clarify. > > > > Regards > > Suchitra > > vedic astrology, "ak_131" > > <agrawal.amitk@g...> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > > > Please reply to this question . I have heard of jupitor bad > > in > > > 5th but not venus bad in 7th (increased sexuality )!!! and this > > doesnt > > > say about being in the same house (lord in own house ) as per my > > > thinking , this says about karka only . > > > Please enlighten me and others with ur kind views. > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > > <kankan_73> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > I have read in an article about UL the following : > > > > > > > > "If the Sthira Karaka for spouse (Venus for wife and Jupiter for > > > > husband) is in own house, the native will be devoid of wife in > > his > > > > later years" > > > > > > > > Is it true?. If yes, what is the logic/reason behind this. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message 49433 of 49463 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] > Message > > Index Msg # > > > > > > Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Venus in the Seventh House ((Bhigru Sutras ) Sutras 37-44-If Venus is in the seventh house, the native will be fond of kissing on the mouth and will be highly sexed. He will be wealthy and will take interest in women other than his wife. He will possess conveyances, will be efficient in his work, will play foul with women and will have a family consisting of brothers and wife etc. If Venus is associated with a malefic or is in the house of a malefic or in his sign of debilitation (Virgo) there will be loss of his wife but he will marry again. If there are many malefics with Venus, the native will have to marry many times on account of successive loss of his wives. In this situation the native will have no children. If Venus is associated with a benefic or in his own or in his sign of exaltation (Pisces) the native will become very wealthy on account of gift of wealth by his in-laws. He will be very influential with the help of his wife and will be surrounded by women. Comments-Venus is a planet of emotion, passion and love. These are the significations of the 7th house also. When Venus is in the 7th, the native becomes highly sexed and has therefore many love affairs. Venus aspects the ascendant from the 7th house. The native therefore will become very attractive for women. He will also be wealthy and will possess all comforts of life including conveyances. If Venus is afflicted he has to suffer loss of his wife and may have to marry more than once. A dignified Venus brings wealth for the native from his wife's parents. He becomes a favourite of women and is always surrounded by them. We, however, feel that if Venus is aspected by or associated with Jupiter both the native and his wife will be very chaste and will enjoy a very happy married life. In the seventh house Venus will be in Kendra to the ascendant. The disposition of Venus in his sign or in his sign of exaltation will give rise to Malavya yoga, the effects of which have already been described earlier in this chapter. Other Views Brihat Jataka-The person concerned will promote quarrels and will be fond of sexual union. Phaldeepika-The native will have a good wife but he may have to suffer the loss of his wife. The native will be wealthy and will fall for unchaste women. Saravali-The native will be handsome, and will enjoy a happy married life. He will be wealthy, fortunate and a friend of everybody. Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be very attractive. His wife will give birth to jewel of a son. He will be fond of enjoying life in every possible manner. Note- In essence all the above authorities agree with Bhrigu Sutras about the effect of Venus in the seventh house. Saravali however does not consider that the native will have contact with many women, but Bhrigu Sutras have dealt with the matter in more detail taking into account the different dispositions of Venus in the seventh house. vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > Thanks for the detailed explanations on Jupiter and 5th house. But > what about Venus as Karaka for 7th in any of his own houses? > > Regards, > Kannan > > vedic astrology, "tw853" <tw853> wrote: > > > > Jupiter in the Fifth House (Bhigru Sutras ) > > > > Sutras 24-31-If Jupiter is in the fifth house, the native will be > > highly intelligent, will have broad eyes, will be a good > > conversationalist, full of glory, will feed others, love family > and > > in his 18th year become commander of the army by the favour of the > > king. He will also have a good number of children who will be > > prosperous. If the lord of the 5th is strong and at the same time > in > > the house of a malefic or his enemy or he is in his sign of > > debilitation, there will be loss of children or the native will > have > > only one issue. He will be rich but will suffer loss of wealth on > > account of penalties imposed by the king (Government). If Jupiter > is > > associated with Rahu or Ketu, the native will suffer loss of his > > children on account of the wrath of Serpent God but this will not > > happen if Jupiter is aspected by a benefic. > > > > Comments- > > Effects given in Sutras 25 and 26 are logical and relevant to the > > significations of Jupiter and the fifth house. It is said that in > his > > 18th year, the native will obtain the position of a commander in > the > > army by the favour of the king. This may be taken to mean that the > > native will be appointed to a respectable governmental post early > in > > his life. > > Sutras 26-29 are confusing. It is difficult to believe that the > lord > > of the 5th will be strong and be at the same time in the house of > > malefic or in the house of his enemy or be in his sign of > > debilitation. There seems to be some error in printing of the > > original text. Shri N. N. Krishna Rao has also translated these > > Sutras according to the above text. His translation is as under:- > > If dispositor happens to be strong, there will be loss of > children; > > but will have minimum one son; and at the same time if it is > situated > > in a malefic, enemy or debilitation sign, there will be expenses > or > > account of king or govt. We interpret the above Sutras as follows: > If > > the lord of the 5th is strong the native will be wealthy. If the > lord > > of 5th is weak by being in a malefic or enemy's house or in his > sign > > of debilitation, the native will suffer loss of children or will > have > > only one son and will be put to loss of wealth on account of > > penalties imposed by Government. Bad effects will not be there if > > there is aspect of a benefic on Jupiter. If Jupiter is in his own > > sign Sagittarious the ascendant will be Leo and he will be lord of > > 5th in 5th (there will be very little evil effect of his being > lord > > of 8th also). If Jupiter is in Pisces, the ascendant will be > Scorpio > > and he will be in the 5th as lord of 2nd and 5th. If Jupiter is in > > Cancer (his sign of exaltation), the ascendant will be Pisces, and > he > > will be in 5th as exalted lord of the ascendant and the 10th. > These > > are very powerful and beneficial dispositions and will greatly > > improve the good effects of Jupiter in the fifth house. > > > > Other Views > > Brihat Jataka-The native will be intelligent. > > Phaldeepika-The native will be intelligent and a minister 120 of > the > > king but will be unhappy on account of want of children. > > Saravali-The native will be happy, will have a good number of > > children, will be learned, tolerant, and permanently wealthy. > > Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be fond of luxuries. He will > be > > a good orator and a writer with good imagination. He will > sometimes > > acquire wealth through his children. > > > > Note-Saravali agrees substantially with Bhrigu Sutras. Brihat > Jataka > > makes no mention of the children which is the most important > > signification of Jupiter and the fifth house. Phaldeepika says > that > > the native will suffer on account of the want of children. It > seems > > to favour the 'Karko Bhava Nashyas' theory. We would commend to > the > > reader the effects given by Bhrigu Sutras which have been > supported > > by Saravali. We give below a horoscope which shows how Jupiter in > the > > 5th has given the native four children in spite of malefic > > associations- > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > <kankan_73> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Request any learned member reply to the original message as well > as > > > the responses. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > "suchitra_kamath" <suchitra_kamath> > > > Mon Feb 7, 2005 6:26 pm > > > Re: Karaka in own house > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Would you please elaborate how and why is Jupiter bad in 5.My > > > understanding says that as a naisargik karak of children and > > > knowledge Jupiter in 5 should be good. > > > Please clarify. > > > > > > Regards > > > Suchitra > > > vedic astrology, "ak_131" > > > <agrawal.amitk@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > > > > > Please reply to this question . I have heard of jupitor bad > > > in > > > > 5th but not venus bad in 7th (increased sexuality )!!! and this > > > doesnt > > > > say about being in the same house (lord in own house ) as per > my > > > > thinking , this says about karka only . > > > > Please enlighten me and others with ur kind views. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > > > <kankan_73> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > I have read in an article about UL the following : > > > > > > > > > > "If the Sthira Karaka for spouse (Venus for wife and Jupiter > for > > > > > husband) is in own house, the native will be devoid of wife > in > > > his > > > > > later years" > > > > > > > > > > Is it true?. If yes, what is the logic/reason behind this. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message 49433 of 49463 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] > > Message > > > Index Msg # > > > > > > > > > Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Dear Sir, Thanks for the reply. Would you be kind enough to look into the first message whereby I have aksed about saying: "If the Sthira Karaka for spouse (Venus for wife and Jupiter for husband) is in own house, the native will be devoid of wife in his later years" Regards, Kannan vedic astrology, "tw853" <tw853> wrote: > > Venus in the Seventh House ((Bhigru Sutras ) > > Sutras 37-44-If Venus is in the seventh house, the native will be > fond of kissing on the mouth and will be highly sexed. He will be > wealthy and will take interest in women other than his wife. He will > possess conveyances, will be efficient in his work, will play foul > with women and will have a family consisting of brothers and wife > etc. If Venus is associated with a malefic or is in the house of a > malefic or in his sign of debilitation (Virgo) there will be loss of > his wife but he will marry again. If there are many malefics with > Venus, the native will have to marry many times on account of > successive loss of his wives. In this situation the native will have > no children. If Venus is associated with a benefic or in his own or > in his sign of exaltation (Pisces) the native will become very > wealthy on account of gift of wealth by his in-laws. He will be very > influential with the help of his wife and will be surrounded by women. > Comments-Venus is a planet of emotion, passion and love. These are > the significations of the 7th house also. When Venus is in the 7th, > the native becomes highly sexed and has therefore many love affairs. > Venus aspects the ascendant from the 7th house. The native therefore > will become very attractive for women. He will also be wealthy and > will possess all comforts of life including conveyances. If Venus is > afflicted he has to suffer loss of his wife and may have to marry > more than once. A dignified Venus brings wealth for the native from > his wife's parents. He becomes a favourite of women and is always > surrounded by them. We, however, feel that if Venus is aspected by or > associated with Jupiter both the native and his wife will be very > chaste and will enjoy a very happy married life. In the seventh house > Venus will be in Kendra to the ascendant. The disposition of Venus in > his sign or in his sign of exaltation will give rise to Malavya yoga, > the effects of which have already been described earlier in this > chapter. > > Other Views > > Brihat Jataka-The person concerned will promote quarrels and will be > fond of sexual union. > Phaldeepika-The native will have a good wife but he may have to > suffer the loss of his wife. The native will be wealthy and will fall > for unchaste women. > Saravali-The native will be handsome, and will enjoy a happy married > life. He will be wealthy, fortunate and a friend of everybody. > Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be very attractive. His wife > will give birth to jewel of a son. He will be fond of enjoying life > in every possible manner. > > Note- > > In essence all the above authorities agree with Bhrigu Sutras about > the effect of Venus in the seventh house. Saravali however does not > consider that the native will have contact with many women, but > Bhrigu Sutras have dealt with the matter in more detail taking into > account the different dispositions of Venus in the seventh house. > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > Thanks for the detailed explanations on Jupiter and 5th house. But > > what about Venus as Karaka for 7th in any of his own houses? > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > vedic astrology, "tw853" <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > Jupiter in the Fifth House (Bhigru Sutras ) > > > > > > Sutras 24-31-If Jupiter is in the fifth house, the native will be > > > highly intelligent, will have broad eyes, will be a good > > > conversationalist, full of glory, will feed others, love family > > and > > > in his 18th year become commander of the army by the favour of > the > > > king. He will also have a good number of children who will be > > > prosperous. If the lord of the 5th is strong and at the same time > > in > > > the house of a malefic or his enemy or he is in his sign of > > > debilitation, there will be loss of children or the native will > > have > > > only one issue. He will be rich but will suffer loss of wealth on > > > account of penalties imposed by the king (Government). If Jupiter > > is > > > associated with Rahu or Ketu, the native will suffer loss of his > > > children on account of the wrath of Serpent God but this will not > > > happen if Jupiter is aspected by a benefic. > > > > > > Comments- > > > Effects given in Sutras 25 and 26 are logical and relevant to the > > > significations of Jupiter and the fifth house. It is said that in > > his > > > 18th year, the native will obtain the position of a commander in > > the > > > army by the favour of the king. This may be taken to mean that > the > > > native will be appointed to a respectable governmental post early > > in > > > his life. > > > Sutras 26-29 are confusing. It is difficult to believe that the > > lord > > > of the 5th will be strong and be at the same time in the house of > > > malefic or in the house of his enemy or be in his sign of > > > debilitation. There seems to be some error in printing of the > > > original text. Shri N. N. Krishna Rao has also translated these > > > Sutras according to the above text. His translation is as under:- > > > If dispositor happens to be strong, there will be loss of > > children; > > > but will have minimum one son; and at the same time if it is > > situated > > > in a malefic, enemy or debilitation sign, there will be expenses > > or > > > account of king or govt. We interpret the above Sutras as > follows: > > If > > > the lord of the 5th is strong the native will be wealthy. If the > > lord > > > of 5th is weak by being in a malefic or enemy's house or in his > > sign > > > of debilitation, the native will suffer loss of children or will > > have > > > only one son and will be put to loss of wealth on account of > > > penalties imposed by Government. Bad effects will not be there if > > > there is aspect of a benefic on Jupiter. If Jupiter is in his own > > > sign Sagittarious the ascendant will be Leo and he will be lord > of > > > 5th in 5th (there will be very little evil effect of his being > > lord > > > of 8th also). If Jupiter is in Pisces, the ascendant will be > > Scorpio > > > and he will be in the 5th as lord of 2nd and 5th. If Jupiter is > in > > > Cancer (his sign of exaltation), the ascendant will be Pisces, > and > > he > > > will be in 5th as exalted lord of the ascendant and the 10th. > > These > > > are very powerful and beneficial dispositions and will greatly > > > improve the good effects of Jupiter in the fifth house. > > > > > > Other Views > > > Brihat Jataka-The native will be intelligent. > > > Phaldeepika-The native will be intelligent and a minister 120 of > > the > > > king but will be unhappy on account of want of children. > > > Saravali-The native will be happy, will have a good number of > > > children, will be learned, tolerant, and permanently wealthy. > > > Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be fond of luxuries. He will > > be > > > a good orator and a writer with good imagination. He will > > sometimes > > > acquire wealth through his children. > > > > > > Note-Saravali agrees substantially with Bhrigu Sutras. Brihat > > Jataka > > > makes no mention of the children which is the most important > > > signification of Jupiter and the fifth house. Phaldeepika says > > that > > > the native will suffer on account of the want of children. It > > seems > > > to favour the 'Karko Bhava Nashyas' theory. We would commend to > > the > > > reader the effects given by Bhrigu Sutras which have been > > supported > > > by Saravali. We give below a horoscope which shows how Jupiter in > > the > > > 5th has given the native four children in spite of malefic > > > associations- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > > <kankan_73> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Request any learned member reply to the original message as > well > > as > > > > the responses. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > "suchitra_kamath" <suchitra_kamath> > > > > Mon Feb 7, 2005 6:26 pm > > > > Re: Karaka in own house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Would you please elaborate how and why is Jupiter bad in 5.My > > > > understanding says that as a naisargik karak of children and > > > > knowledge Jupiter in 5 should be good. > > > > Please clarify. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Suchitra > > > > vedic astrology, "ak_131" > > > > <agrawal.amitk@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > Please reply to this question . I have heard of jupitor bad > > > > in > > > > > 5th but not venus bad in 7th (increased sexuality )!!! and > this > > > > doesnt > > > > > say about being in the same house (lord in own house ) as per > > my > > > > > thinking , this says about karka only . > > > > > Please enlighten me and others with ur kind views. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > > > > <kankan_73> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I have read in an article about UL the following : > > > > > > > > > > > > "If the Sthira Karaka for spouse (Venus for wife and > Jupiter > > for > > > > > > husband) is in own house, the native will be devoid of wife > > in > > > > his > > > > > > later years" > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it true?. If yes, what is the logic/reason behind this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message 49433 of 49463 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] > > > Message > > > > Index Msg # > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Its a nice reply giving reference of Bhrigu Sutras. May I request you to please let me know the reference book from u saw the details. kind regards rakeshtw853 <tw853 > wrote: Venus in the Seventh House ((Bhigru Sutras )Sutras 37-44-If Venus is in the seventh house, the native will be fond of kissing on the mouth and will be highly sexed. He will be wealthy and will take interest in women other than his wife. He will possess conveyances, will be efficient in his work, will play foul with women and will have a family consisting of brothers and wife etc. If Venus is associated with a malefic or is in the house of a malefic or in his sign of debilitation (Virgo) there will be loss of his wife but he will marry again. If there are many malefics with Venus, the native will have to marry many times on account of successive loss of his wives. In this situation the native will have no children. If Venus is associated with a benefic or in his own or in his sign of exaltation (Pisces) the native will become very wealthy on account of gift of wealth by his in-laws. He will be very influential with the help of his wife and will be surrounded by women.Comments-Venus is a planet of emotion, passion and love. These are the significations of the 7th house also. When Venus is in the 7th, the native becomes highly sexed and has therefore many love affairs. Venus aspects the ascendant from the 7th house. The native therefore will become very attractive for women. He will also be wealthy and will possess all comforts of life including conveyances. If Venus is afflicted he has to suffer loss of his wife and may have to marry more than once. A dignified Venus brings wealth for the native from his wife's parents. He becomes a favourite of women and is always surrounded by them. We, however, feel that if Venus is aspected by or associated with Jupiter both the native and his wife will be very chaste and will enjoy a very happy married life. In the seventh house Venus will be in Kendra to the ascendant. The disposition of Venus in his sign or in his sign of exaltation will give rise to Malavya yoga, the effects of which have already been described earlier in this chapter.Other ViewsBrihat Jataka-The person concerned will promote quarrels and will be fond of sexual union.Phaldeepika-The native will have a good wife but he may have to suffer the loss of his wife. The native will be wealthy and will fall for unchaste women.Saravali-The native will be handsome, and will enjoy a happy married life. He will be wealthy, fortunate and a friend of everybody.Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be very attractive. His wife will give birth to jewel of a son. He will be fond of enjoying life in every possible manner.Note-In essence all the above authorities agree with Bhrigu Sutras about the effect of Venus in the seventh house. Saravali however does not consider that the native will have contact with many women, but Bhrigu Sutras have dealt with the matter in more detail taking into account the different dispositions of Venus in the seventh house.--- In vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> wrote:> > Dear Sir,> Thanks for the detailed explanations on Jupiter and 5th house. But > what about Venus as Karaka for 7th in any of his own houses?> > Regards,> Kannan> > vedic astrology, "tw853" <tw853> wrote:> > > > Jupiter in the Fifth House (Bhigru Sutras )> > > > Sutras 24-31-If Jupiter is in the fifth house, the native will be > > highly intelligent, will have broad eyes, will be a good > > conversationalist, full of glory, will feed others, love family > and > > in his 18th year become commander of the army by the favour of the > > king. He will also have a good number of children who will be > > prosperous. If the lord of the 5th is strong and at the same time > in > > the house of a malefic or his enemy or he is in his sign of > > debilitation, there will be loss of children or the native will > have > > only one issue. He will be rich but will suffer loss of wealth on > > account of penalties imposed by the king (Government). If Jupiter > is > > associated with Rahu or Ketu, the native will suffer loss of his > > children on account of the wrath of Serpent God but this will not > > happen if Jupiter is aspected by a benefic.> > > > Comments-> > Effects given in Sutras 25 and 26 are logical and relevant to the > > significations of Jupiter and the fifth house. It is said that in > his > > 18th year, the native will obtain the position of a commander in > the > > army by the favour of the king. This may be taken to mean that the > > native will be appointed to a respectable governmental post early > in > > his life.> > Sutras 26-29 are confusing. It is difficult to believe that the > lord > > of the 5th will be strong and be at the same time in the house of > > malefic or in the house of his enemy or be in his sign of > > debilitation. There seems to be some error in printing of the > > original text. Shri N. N. Krishna Rao has also translated these > > Sutras according to the above text. His translation is as under:-> > If dispositor happens to be strong, there will be loss of > children; > > but will have minimum one son; and at the same time if it is > situated > > in a malefic, enemy or debilitation sign, there will be expenses > or > > account of king or govt. We interpret the above Sutras as follows: > If > > the lord of the 5th is strong the native will be wealthy. If the > lord > > of 5th is weak by being in a malefic or enemy's house or in his > sign > > of debilitation, the native will suffer loss of children or will > have > > only one son and will be put to loss of wealth on account of > > penalties imposed by Government. Bad effects will not be there if > > there is aspect of a benefic on Jupiter. If Jupiter is in his own > > sign Sagittarious the ascendant will be Leo and he will be lord of > > 5th in 5th (there will be very little evil effect of his being > lord > > of 8th also). If Jupiter is in Pisces, the ascendant will be > Scorpio > > and he will be in the 5th as lord of 2nd and 5th. If Jupiter is in > > Cancer (his sign of exaltation), the ascendant will be Pisces, and > he > > will be in 5th as exalted lord of the ascendant and the 10th. > These > > are very powerful and beneficial dispositions and will greatly > > improve the good effects of Jupiter in the fifth house.> > > > Other Views> > Brihat Jataka-The native will be intelligent.> > Phaldeepika-The native will be intelligent and a minister 120 of > the > > king but will be unhappy on account of want of children.> > Saravali-The native will be happy, will have a good number of > > children, will be learned, tolerant, and permanently wealthy.> > Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be fond of luxuries. He will > be > > a good orator and a writer with good imagination. He will > sometimes > > acquire wealth through his children.> > > > Note-Saravali agrees substantially with Bhrigu Sutras. Brihat > Jataka > > makes no mention of the children which is the most important > > signification of Jupiter and the fifth house. Phaldeepika says > that > > the native will suffer on account of the want of children. It > seems > > to favour the 'Karko Bhava Nashyas' theory. We would commend to > the > > reader the effects given by Bhrigu Sutras which have been > supported > > by Saravali. We give below a horoscope which shows how Jupiter in > the > > 5th has given the native four children in spite of malefic > > associations-> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > <kankan_73> > > wrote:> > > > > > Hi All,> > > > > > Request any learned member reply to the original message as well > as > > > the responses.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Kannan> > > > > > > > > "suchitra_kamath" <suchitra_kamath> > > > Mon Feb 7, 2005 6:26 pm > > > Re: Karaka in own house> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,> > > > > > Would you please elaborate how and why is Jupiter bad in 5.My> > > understanding says that as a naisargik karak of children and> > > knowledge Jupiter in 5 should be good.> > > Please clarify.> > > > > > Regards> > > Suchitra> > > vedic astrology, "ak_131"> > > <agrawal.amitk@g...> wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Members,> > > >> > > > Please reply to this question . I have heard of jupitor bad> > > in> > > > 5th but not venus bad in 7th (increased sexuality )!!! and this> > > doesnt> > > > say about being in the same house (lord in own house ) as per > my> > > > thinking , this says about karka only ..> > > > Please enlighten me and others with ur kind views.> > > > Thanks> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73"> > > <kankan_73>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > I have read in an article about UL the following :> > > > >> > > > > "If the Sthira Karaka for spouse (Venus for wife and Jupiter > for> > > > > husband) is in own house, the native will be devoid of wife > in> > > his> > > > > later years"> > > > >> > > > > Is it true?. If yes, what is the logic/reason behind this.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Kannan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message 49433 of 49463 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] > > Message > > > Index Msg # > > > > > > > > > Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap LinesArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Dear Kannan, The overall assessment of the horoscope is more important than any position of a planet or combination of planets which may not be capable or marring or making a horoscope. Best regards, tw vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > Thanks for the reply. Would you be kind enough to look into the > first message whereby I have aksed about saying: > > "If the Sthira Karaka for spouse (Venus for wife and > Jupiter for husband) is in own house, the native will be devoid of > wife in his later years" > > Regards, > Kannan > vedic astrology, "tw853" <tw853> wrote: > > > > Venus in the Seventh House ((Bhigru Sutras ) > > > > Sutras 37-44-If Venus is in the seventh house, the native will be > > fond of kissing on the mouth and will be highly sexed. He will be > > wealthy and will take interest in women other than his wife. He > will > > possess conveyances, will be efficient in his work, will play foul > > with women and will have a family consisting of brothers and wife > > etc. If Venus is associated with a malefic or is in the house of a > > malefic or in his sign of debilitation (Virgo) there will be loss > of > > his wife but he will marry again. If there are many malefics with > > Venus, the native will have to marry many times on account of > > successive loss of his wives. In this situation the native will > have > > no children. If Venus is associated with a benefic or in his own > or > > in his sign of exaltation (Pisces) the native will become very > > wealthy on account of gift of wealth by his in-laws. He will be > very > > influential with the help of his wife and will be surrounded by > women. > > Comments-Venus is a planet of emotion, passion and love. These are > > the significations of the 7th house also. When Venus is in the > 7th, > > the native becomes highly sexed and has therefore many love > affairs. > > Venus aspects the ascendant from the 7th house. The native > therefore > > will become very attractive for women. He will also be wealthy and > > will possess all comforts of life including conveyances. If Venus > is > > afflicted he has to suffer loss of his wife and may have to marry > > more than once. A dignified Venus brings wealth for the native > from > > his wife's parents. He becomes a favourite of women and is always > > surrounded by them. We, however, feel that if Venus is aspected by > or > > associated with Jupiter both the native and his wife will be very > > chaste and will enjoy a very happy married life. In the seventh > house > > Venus will be in Kendra to the ascendant. The disposition of Venus > in > > his sign or in his sign of exaltation will give rise to Malavya > yoga, > > the effects of which have already been described earlier in this > > chapter. > > > > Other Views > > > > Brihat Jataka-The person concerned will promote quarrels and will > be > > fond of sexual union. > > Phaldeepika-The native will have a good wife but he may have to > > suffer the loss of his wife. The native will be wealthy and will > fall > > for unchaste women. > > Saravali-The native will be handsome, and will enjoy a happy > married > > life. He will be wealthy, fortunate and a friend of everybody. > > Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be very attractive. His wife > > will give birth to jewel of a son. He will be fond of enjoying > life > > in every possible manner. > > > > Note- > > > > In essence all the above authorities agree with Bhrigu Sutras > about > > the effect of Venus in the seventh house. Saravali however does > not > > consider that the native will have contact with many women, but > > Bhrigu Sutras have dealt with the matter in more detail taking > into > > account the different dispositions of Venus in the seventh house. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > <kankan_73> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > Thanks for the detailed explanations on Jupiter and 5th house. > But > > > what about Venus as Karaka for 7th in any of his own houses? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Kannan > > > > > > vedic astrology, "tw853" <tw853> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Jupiter in the Fifth House (Bhigru Sutras ) > > > > > > > > Sutras 24-31-If Jupiter is in the fifth house, the native will > be > > > > highly intelligent, will have broad eyes, will be a good > > > > conversationalist, full of glory, will feed others, love > family > > > and > > > > in his 18th year become commander of the army by the favour of > > the > > > > king. He will also have a good number of children who will be > > > > prosperous. If the lord of the 5th is strong and at the same > time > > > in > > > > the house of a malefic or his enemy or he is in his sign of > > > > debilitation, there will be loss of children or the native > will > > > have > > > > only one issue. He will be rich but will suffer loss of wealth > on > > > > account of penalties imposed by the king (Government). If > Jupiter > > > is > > > > associated with Rahu or Ketu, the native will suffer loss of > his > > > > children on account of the wrath of Serpent God but this will > not > > > > happen if Jupiter is aspected by a benefic. > > > > > > > > Comments- > > > > Effects given in Sutras 25 and 26 are logical and relevant to > the > > > > significations of Jupiter and the fifth house. It is said that > in > > > his > > > > 18th year, the native will obtain the position of a commander > in > > > the > > > > army by the favour of the king. This may be taken to mean that > > the > > > > native will be appointed to a respectable governmental post > early > > > in > > > > his life. > > > > Sutras 26-29 are confusing. It is difficult to believe that > the > > > lord > > > > of the 5th will be strong and be at the same time in the house > of > > > > malefic or in the house of his enemy or be in his sign of > > > > debilitation. There seems to be some error in printing of the > > > > original text. Shri N. N. Krishna Rao has also translated > these > > > > Sutras according to the above text. His translation is as > under:- > > > > If dispositor happens to be strong, there will be loss of > > > children; > > > > but will have minimum one son; and at the same time if it is > > > situated > > > > in a malefic, enemy or debilitation sign, there will be > expenses > > > or > > > > account of king or govt. We interpret the above Sutras as > > follows: > > > If > > > > the lord of the 5th is strong the native will be wealthy. If > the > > > lord > > > > of 5th is weak by being in a malefic or enemy's house or in > his > > > sign > > > > of debilitation, the native will suffer loss of children or > will > > > have > > > > only one son and will be put to loss of wealth on account of > > > > penalties imposed by Government. Bad effects will not be there > if > > > > there is aspect of a benefic on Jupiter. If Jupiter is in his > own > > > > sign Sagittarious the ascendant will be Leo and he will be > lord > > of > > > > 5th in 5th (there will be very little evil effect of his being > > > lord > > > > of 8th also). If Jupiter is in Pisces, the ascendant will be > > > Scorpio > > > > and he will be in the 5th as lord of 2nd and 5th. If Jupiter > is > > in > > > > Cancer (his sign of exaltation), the ascendant will be Pisces, > > and > > > he > > > > will be in 5th as exalted lord of the ascendant and the 10th. > > > These > > > > are very powerful and beneficial dispositions and will greatly > > > > improve the good effects of Jupiter in the fifth house. > > > > > > > > Other Views > > > > Brihat Jataka-The native will be intelligent. > > > > Phaldeepika-The native will be intelligent and a minister 120 > of > > > the > > > > king but will be unhappy on account of want of children. > > > > Saravali-The native will be happy, will have a good number of > > > > children, will be learned, tolerant, and permanently wealthy. > > > > Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be fond of luxuries. He > will > > > be > > > > a good orator and a writer with good imagination. He will > > > sometimes > > > > acquire wealth through his children. > > > > > > > > Note-Saravali agrees substantially with Bhrigu Sutras. Brihat > > > Jataka > > > > makes no mention of the children which is the most important > > > > signification of Jupiter and the fifth house. Phaldeepika says > > > that > > > > the native will suffer on account of the want of children. It > > > seems > > > > to favour the 'Karko Bhava Nashyas' theory. We would commend > to > > > the > > > > reader the effects given by Bhrigu Sutras which have been > > > supported > > > > by Saravali. We give below a horoscope which shows how Jupiter > in > > > the > > > > 5th has given the native four children in spite of malefic > > > > associations- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > > > <kankan_73> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > Request any learned member reply to the original message as > > well > > > as > > > > > the responses. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "suchitra_kamath" <suchitra_kamath> > > > > > Mon Feb 7, 2005 6:26 pm > > > > > Re: Karaka in own house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Would you please elaborate how and why is Jupiter bad in 5.My > > > > > understanding says that as a naisargik karak of children and > > > > > knowledge Jupiter in 5 should be good. > > > > > Please clarify. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Suchitra > > > > > vedic astrology, "ak_131" > > > > > <agrawal.amitk@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please reply to this question . I have heard of jupitor bad > > > > > in > > > > > > 5th but not venus bad in 7th (increased sexuality )!!! and > > this > > > > > doesnt > > > > > > say about being in the same house (lord in own house ) as > per > > > my > > > > > > thinking , this says about karka only . > > > > > > Please enlighten me and others with ur kind views. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > > > > > <kankan_73> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > I have read in an article about UL the following : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "If the Sthira Karaka for spouse (Venus for wife and > > Jupiter > > > for > > > > > > > husband) is in own house, the native will be devoid of > wife > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > > later years" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it true?. If yes, what is the logic/reason behind > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message 49433 of 49463 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] > > > > Message > > > > > Index Msg # > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Dear Rakesh, Bhrigu Sutras by Rishi Bhrigu Best regards, tw vedic astrology, rakesh arora <rakesharora_jv> wrote: > Dear member > > Its a nice reply giving reference of Bhrigu Sutras. > > May I request you to please let me know the reference book from u saw the details. > > kind regards > rakesh > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > Venus in the Seventh House ((Bhigru Sutras ) > > Sutras 37-44-If Venus is in the seventh house, the native will be > fond of kissing on the mouth and will be highly sexed. He will be > wealthy and will take interest in women other than his wife. He will > possess conveyances, will be efficient in his work, will play foul > with women and will have a family consisting of brothers and wife > etc. If Venus is associated with a malefic or is in the house of a > malefic or in his sign of debilitation (Virgo) there will be loss of > his wife but he will marry again. If there are many malefics with > Venus, the native will have to marry many times on account of > successive loss of his wives. In this situation the native will have > no children. If Venus is associated with a benefic or in his own or > in his sign of exaltation (Pisces) the native will become very > wealthy on account of gift of wealth by his in-laws. He will be very > influential with the help of his wife and will be surrounded by women. > Comments-Venus is a planet of emotion, passion and love. These are > the significations of the 7th house also. When Venus is in the 7th, > the native becomes highly sexed and has therefore many love affairs. > Venus aspects the ascendant from the 7th house. The native therefore > will become very attractive for women. He will also be wealthy and > will possess all comforts of life including conveyances. If Venus is > afflicted he has to suffer loss of his wife and may have to marry > more than once. A dignified Venus brings wealth for the native from > his wife's parents. He becomes a favourite of women and is always > surrounded by them. We, however, feel that if Venus is aspected by or > associated with Jupiter both the native and his wife will be very > chaste and will enjoy a very happy married life. In the seventh house > Venus will be in Kendra to the ascendant. The disposition of Venus in > his sign or in his sign of exaltation will give rise to Malavya yoga, > the effects of which have already been described earlier in this > chapter. > > Other Views > > Brihat Jataka-The person concerned will promote quarrels and will be > fond of sexual union. > Phaldeepika-The native will have a good wife but he may have to > suffer the loss of his wife. The native will be wealthy and will fall > for unchaste women. > Saravali-The native will be handsome, and will enjoy a happy married > life. He will be wealthy, fortunate and a friend of everybody. > Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be very attractive. His wife > will give birth to jewel of a son. He will be fond of enjoying life > in every possible manner. > > Note- > > In essence all the above authorities agree with Bhrigu Sutras about > the effect of Venus in the seventh house. Saravali however does not > consider that the native will have contact with many women, but > Bhrigu Sutras have dealt with the matter in more detail taking into > account the different dispositions of Venus in the seventh house. > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" <kankan_73> > wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > Thanks for the detailed explanations on Jupiter and 5th house. But > > what about Venus as Karaka for 7th in any of his own houses? > > > > Regards, > > Kannan > > > > vedic astrology, "tw853" <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > Jupiter in the Fifth House (Bhigru Sutras ) > > > > > > Sutras 24-31-If Jupiter is in the fifth house, the native will be > > > highly intelligent, will have broad eyes, will be a good > > > conversationalist, full of glory, will feed others, love family > > and > > > in his 18th year become commander of the army by the favour of > the > > > king. He will also have a good number of children who will be > > > prosperous. If the lord of the 5th is strong and at the same time > > in > > > the house of a malefic or his enemy or he is in his sign of > > > debilitation, there will be loss of children or the native will > > have > > > only one issue. He will be rich but will suffer loss of wealth on > > > account of penalties imposed by the king (Government). If Jupiter > > is > > > associated with Rahu or Ketu, the native will suffer loss of his > > > children on account of the wrath of Serpent God but this will not > > > happen if Jupiter is aspected by a benefic. > > > > > > Comments- > > > Effects given in Sutras 25 and 26 are logical and relevant to the > > > significations of Jupiter and the fifth house. It is said that in > > his > > > 18th year, the native will obtain the position of a commander in > > the > > > army by the favour of the king. This may be taken to mean that > the > > > native will be appointed to a respectable governmental post early > > in > > > his life. > > > Sutras 26-29 are confusing. It is difficult to believe that the > > lord > > > of the 5th will be strong and be at the same time in the house of > > > malefic or in the house of his enemy or be in his sign of > > > debilitation. There seems to be some error in printing of the > > > original text. Shri N. N. Krishna Rao has also translated these > > > Sutras according to the above text. His translation is as under:- > > > If dispositor happens to be strong, there will be loss of > > children; > > > but will have minimum one son; and at the same time if it is > > situated > > > in a malefic, enemy or debilitation sign, there will be expenses > > or > > > account of king or govt. We interpret the above Sutras as > follows: > > If > > > the lord of the 5th is strong the native will be wealthy. If the > > lord > > > of 5th is weak by being in a malefic or enemy's house or in his > > sign > > > of debilitation, the native will suffer loss of children or will > > have > > > only one son and will be put to loss of wealth on account of > > > penalties imposed by Government. Bad effects will not be there if > > > there is aspect of a benefic on Jupiter. If Jupiter is in his own > > > sign Sagittarious the ascendant will be Leo and he will be lord > of > > > 5th in 5th (there will be very little evil effect of his being > > lord > > > of 8th also). If Jupiter is in Pisces, the ascendant will be > > Scorpio > > > and he will be in the 5th as lord of 2nd and 5th. If Jupiter is > in > > > Cancer (his sign of exaltation), the ascendant will be Pisces, > and > > he > > > will be in 5th as exalted lord of the ascendant and the 10th. > > These > > > are very powerful and beneficial dispositions and will greatly > > > improve the good effects of Jupiter in the fifth house. > > > > > > Other Views > > > Brihat Jataka-The native will be intelligent. > > > Phaldeepika-The native will be intelligent and a minister 120 of > > the > > > king but will be unhappy on account of want of children. > > > Saravali-The native will be happy, will have a good number of > > > children, will be learned, tolerant, and permanently wealthy. > > > Chamatkar Chintamani-The native will be fond of luxuries. He will > > be > > > a good orator and a writer with good imagination. He will > > sometimes > > > acquire wealth through his children. > > > > > > Note-Saravali agrees substantially with Bhrigu Sutras. Brihat > > Jataka > > > makes no mention of the children which is the most important > > > signification of Jupiter and the fifth house. Phaldeepika says > > that > > > the native will suffer on account of the want of children. It > > seems > > > to favour the 'Karko Bhava Nashyas' theory. We would commend to > > the > > > reader the effects given by Bhrigu Sutras which have been > > supported > > > by Saravali. We give below a horoscope which shows how Jupiter in > > the > > > 5th has given the native four children in spite of malefic > > > associations- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > > <kankan_73> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Request any learned member reply to the original message as > well > > as > > > > the responses. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > "suchitra_kamath" <suchitra_kamath> > > > > Mon Feb 7, 2005 6:26 pm > > > > Re: Karaka in own house > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Would you please elaborate how and why is Jupiter bad in 5.My > > > > understanding says that as a naisargik karak of children and > > > > knowledge Jupiter in 5 should be good. > > > > Please clarify. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Suchitra > > > > vedic astrology, "ak_131" > > > > <agrawal.amitk@g...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Members, > > > > > > > > > > Please reply to this question . I have heard of jupitor bad > > > > in > > > > > 5th but not venus bad in 7th (increased sexuality )!!! and > this > > > > doesnt > > > > > say about being in the same house (lord in own house ) as per > > my > > > > > thinking , this says about karka only . > > > > > Please enlighten me and others with ur kind views. > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "kankan_73" > > > > <kankan_73> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > I have read in an article about UL the following : > > > > > > > > > > > > "If the Sthira Karaka for spouse (Venus for wife and > Jupiter > > for > > > > > > husband) is in own house, the native will be devoid of wife > > in > > > > his > > > > > > later years" > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it true?. If yes, what is the logic/reason behind this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Kannan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message 49433 of 49463 | Previous | Next [ Up Thread ] > > > Message > > > > Index Msg # > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply | Forward | View Source | Unwrap Lines > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > document.write(''); > > > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > > vedic astrology > > Terms of Service. > > > India Matrimony: Find your partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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