Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Dear Tushankar Is this a history channel or a history list??. You could have provide a link, and in subject could have mentioned non astrological?? best wishes partha vedic astrology, tushankur.saroha@x wrote: > Dear List Members > > The article on the web site below claims Skayamuni Budha > ( Gautam Budha) was born around 1800BC. This puts Budha's > birth back by 1200 years. Any comments? > > http://www.vnn.org/editorials/ET0003/ET14-5679.html > > This article is as follows: > March 14, 2000 VNN5679 Comment on this story > > The Vedic Buddha Date > > > -- -- > BY VRIN PARKER > > EDITORIAL, Mar 14 (VNN) â€" Below I have compiled a quick overview from > the writings of Prof Prasad Gokhale from the University of New > Brunswick, Canada, on the subject of the Vedic Date for Lord Buddha's > appearance. Also note that the British date of 800 AD for Adi > Shankaracharya is incorrect as is the date for Chanakya Pandit, > Chandragupta Maurya and the Gupta dynasty. > > Two major sects of Vaidik Dharma, namely, that of Jaina and Buddha > (1800 B.C.), rose and assumed a large following during this period. > One of the greatest philosophers in Hindu history, and perhaps in > world history, Aadi Shankaracharya also flourished in this era (500 > B.C.). > > The rise of Arya Chanakya and Chandragupta of Maurya dynasty (1530 > B.C.), and the historical evidence to the golden age of the Hindus > under the umbrella of the Gupta dynasty (325 B.C.) also occured > during this period. > > .. Evidence testifies that Buddha and Aadi Shankara lived 1800 B.C. > and 500 B.C respectively. The "golden age" in India was ushered with > the rise of the Gupta dynasty. It was Chandragupta of the Guptas, NOT > THE MAURYAS, who reigned over the Indian empire around 325 B.C., a > time when Macedonian Alexander had invaded India. > > The currently established chronology of India initiates with the > invasion of the so-called aryan race in 1500 B.C., which ruthlessly > and forcefully subdued the original inhabitants of the land, imposing > upon them a alien language and culture. The invading hordes settled > down on the banks of river Sindhu (Indus), and within few centuries > (1200 B.C.), complied the Veda. Subsequently, the Brahmanas, > Samhitas, Puranas and numerous other scriptures were composed. Where > does the Ramayan and Mahabharat fit in? Some say that the Ramayan > follows Mahabharat and some opine otherwise. In all this anarchy of > Indian histography, the probable date of Mahabharat ranges between > 1000 B.C.to 300 B.C. > > The identification of Sandrocottus (325 B.C.) of the Greeks with > Chandragupta Maurya by Sir Jones was considered to the "sheet anchor" > and based on this assumption, a chronology of Indian history was > constructed. THE DATE WHEN GAUTAMA BUDDHA PROSPERED WAS CALCULATED > FROM THIS SHEET ANCHOR TO BE AROUND 500 BC, and the dateline of Aadi > Shankara was put in 800 A.D. The Gupta Dynasty, whose reign ushered a > Golden Age in India, were placed in the 4th century A.D. > > Examination of the Rgved, Puraan and other texts provide dates of > events that took Indian history, at times, back to thousands of > years. However, since these dates contradicted the prevalent views of > Europeans historians, the saunskrut texts were academically attacked > in an attempt to disprove the authenticity of the annals. For > example, the European Indologist Maxmuller, tried the interpret the > astronomical evidences to prove that the observations recorded in the > Hindu scriptures are imaginary, "pious frauds" created by the cunning > Brahmanas. Numerous references which were anachronous to the > particular time-frames were either considered as unauthentic and > unreliable. No attempt was made to recheck and reevaluate the > presumptions and basis on which the chronological structure was built. > > ...Sage Buddha is also considered as yet another avataar, and the > time he prospered is determined below. However, to determine the age > when Buddha flourished requires finding dates of some other events in > the course of history. The datelines of Maurya Chandragupta and his > grandson, Maurya Ashoka, are considered in the following two sections. > > 14. Gautam Buddha - Modern history tends to inform readers that > Gautama was born around 550 B.C. and died after about 80 years. > Pandit Kota Venkatachalam, writes in his book "The Age of Buddha, > Milinda and King Amtiyoka and Yuga Purana" that, "Due to his wrong > identification of Maurya Chandragupta as the contemporary of > Alexander, the history of Bharat has been shifted by 12 centuries > (and) it is the Chandragupta of the Gupta dynasty who belongs to 327- > 320 B.C." Thus, due to the confusion in pinpointing properly > the "sheet anchor" of Indian history, Lord Buddha's antiquity has > been underestimated by about 1200 years. Now that Chandragupta Maurya > reigned in 1550 B.C. (instead of 325 B.C.), the time when the latter > flourished can be calculation to be around 1850 B.C. (instead of 550 > B.C.). > > All the Puranas and another historical compilation titled Kaliyug- > rajavruttanta, profess to describe the Magadha royal dynasties > starting from the Bruhadratha to the Andhra lineages, after which the > Magadha empire disintegrated. It is known from the Bhagavad Puraan > that Buddha was 23rd in the Ikshwaku lineage. However, the list of > Ikshwaku kings are not available. In order to determine the date of > Siddharta (Buddha), it is necessary to find the contemporary kings in > the Magadha genealogy. According to different accounts, the Buddha > was a contemporary of Kshemajita, Bindusar and Ajatashatru, the 31st- > 33rd kings of the Shishunaga dynasty. The Buddha was 72 years old > when the coronation of Ajatashatru took place, that is in 1814 B.C. > Going backwards, the date of Buddha's birth becomes 1887 B.C. Since > he lived for 80 years, the Buddha must have left the body in 1807 B.C. > > This date can also be confirmed by purely referring to astronomical > calculations, and what is correctly and exactly obtained as the date > for Buddha's nirvana is 27-3-1807 (Sathe, Age of Buddha). This date > also explains the possibility of the existence of Buddhism in the > second millennium B.C., as was rejected earlier. The astronomical > computations of the indologist-astronomer Swami Sakhyananda suggests > that the Buddha belonged to the Kruttika period, i.e., in between > 2621-1661 B.C. In his book "Chronology of Ancient Bharat" > (Part4.Chap2), Prof. K.Srinivasaraghavan states the approximate time > of Buddha to be 2259 years after the Bharata War (3138 B.C.). which > turns out to be 1880 B.C. > > Thyagaraja Aiyer in his book "Indian Architecture" observes," Here > lies Indian Sramanacharya from Bodh Gaya, a Shakya monk taken to > Greece by his Greek pupils and the tomb marks his death about 1000 > B.C." If the Buddhist monk went to Greece in 1000 B.C., then the > Buddha must have lived at least a few centuries earlier. Somayajulu > places Chandragupta Maurya in the 14th century B.C (ref: Dates in > Ancient History of India). This puts the Buddha three centuries > earlier, i.e., in the 17th century B.C. A brief chronology of the > events in Buddha's life:Born in 1887 B.C., Renunciation in 1858 B.C., > Penance during 1858-52 B.C and Death in 1807 B.C. > > There are various other calculations and evidences which point to the > 1800 B.C. date. However, it is believed that, at least for this > article, the presentation made above suffices to convince and > ascertain the date of Buddha. > > regds > Tushankur > > Whilst this email has been checked for all known viruses, recipients should undertake their own virus checking as Xansa will not accept any liability whatsoever. > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and protected by client privilege. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient. > Please delete it and notify the sender if you have received it in > error. Unauthorised use is prohibited. > > Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not > necessarily the organisation. > Xansa, Registered Office: 420 Thames Valley Park Drive, > Thames Valley Park, Reading, RG6 1PU, UK. > Registered in England No.1000954. > t +44 (0)8702 416181 > w www.xansa.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Dear All, JUST FOR INFORMATION In Dr. B V Raman's NOTABLE HOROSCOPES, pp 9-16, Chart No 2 - SRI GAUTAMA BUDDHA, Birth Details of 14th April 623 B.C.(corresponding the Full Moon day of the lunar month of Vaisakha, Kali 2479, Tuesday), at about midday (Lat 27-8 N, 83-6 E)have been estimated from four independent sources and also mentions other DOBs of 10-3- 1887 BC, Tuseday, 4-4-557 BC, Friday & 1-4-543 BC, Friday. Best regards, tw vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy" <partvinu@g...> wrote: > > Dear Tushankar > > > Is this a history channel or a history list??. You could have provide > a link, and in subject could have mentioned non astrological?? > best wishes > partha > > > vedic astrology, tushankur.saroha@x wrote: > > Dear List Members > > > > The article on the web site below claims Skayamuni Budha > > ( Gautam Budha) was born around 1800BC. This puts Budha's > > birth back by 1200 years. Any comments? > > > > http://www.vnn.org/editorials/ET0003/ET14-5679.html > > > > This article is as follows: > > March 14, 2000 VNN5679 Comment on this story > > > > The Vedic Buddha Date > > > > > > -- > -- > > BY VRIN PARKER > > > > EDITORIAL, Mar 14 (VNN) â€" Below I have compiled a quick overview > from > > the writings of Prof Prasad Gokhale from the University of New > > Brunswick, Canada, on the subject of the Vedic Date for Lord > Buddha's > > appearance. Also note that the British date of 800 AD for Adi > > Shankaracharya is incorrect as is the date for Chanakya Pandit, > > Chandragupta Maurya and the Gupta dynasty. > > > > Two major sects of Vaidik Dharma, namely, that of Jaina and Buddha > > (1800 B.C.), rose and assumed a large following during this period. > > One of the greatest philosophers in Hindu history, and perhaps in > > world history, Aadi Shankaracharya also flourished in this era (500 > > B.C.). > > > > The rise of Arya Chanakya and Chandragupta of Maurya dynasty (1530 > > B.C.), and the historical evidence to the golden age of the Hindus > > under the umbrella of the Gupta dynasty (325 B.C.) also occured > > during this period. > > > > .. Evidence testifies that Buddha and Aadi Shankara lived 1800 B.C. > > and 500 B.C respectively. The "golden age" in India was ushered with > > the rise of the Gupta dynasty. It was Chandragupta of the Guptas, > NOT > > THE MAURYAS, who reigned over the Indian empire around 325 B.C., a > > time when Macedonian Alexander had invaded India. > > > > The currently established chronology of India initiates with the > > invasion of the so-called aryan race in 1500 B.C., which ruthlessly > > and forcefully subdued the original inhabitants of the land, > imposing > > upon them a alien language and culture. The invading hordes settled > > down on the banks of river Sindhu (Indus), and within few centuries > > (1200 B.C.), complied the Veda. Subsequently, the Brahmanas, > > Samhitas, Puranas and numerous other scriptures were composed. Where > > does the Ramayan and Mahabharat fit in? Some say that the Ramayan > > follows Mahabharat and some opine otherwise. In all this anarchy of > > Indian histography, the probable date of Mahabharat ranges between > > 1000 B.C.to 300 B.C. > > > > The identification of Sandrocottus (325 B.C.) of the Greeks with > > Chandragupta Maurya by Sir Jones was considered to the "sheet > anchor" > > and based on this assumption, a chronology of Indian history was > > constructed. THE DATE WHEN GAUTAMA BUDDHA PROSPERED WAS CALCULATED > > FROM THIS SHEET ANCHOR TO BE AROUND 500 BC, and the dateline of Aadi > > Shankara was put in 800 A.D. The Gupta Dynasty, whose reign ushered > a > > Golden Age in India, were placed in the 4th century A.D. > > > > Examination of the Rgved, Puraan and other texts provide dates of > > events that took Indian history, at times, back to thousands of > > years. However, since these dates contradicted the prevalent views > of > > Europeans historians, the saunskrut texts were academically attacked > > in an attempt to disprove the authenticity of the annals. For > > example, the European Indologist Maxmuller, tried the interpret the > > astronomical evidences to prove that the observations recorded in > the > > Hindu scriptures are imaginary, "pious frauds" created by the > cunning > > Brahmanas. Numerous references which were anachronous to the > > particular time-frames were either considered as unauthentic and > > unreliable. No attempt was made to recheck and reevaluate the > > presumptions and basis on which the chronological structure was > built. > > > > ...Sage Buddha is also considered as yet another avataar, and the > > time he prospered is determined below. However, to determine the age > > when Buddha flourished requires finding dates of some other events > in > > the course of history. The datelines of Maurya Chandragupta and his > > grandson, Maurya Ashoka, are considered in the following two > sections. > > > > 14. Gautam Buddha - Modern history tends to inform readers that > > Gautama was born around 550 B.C. and died after about 80 years. > > Pandit Kota Venkatachalam, writes in his book "The Age of Buddha, > > Milinda and King Amtiyoka and Yuga Purana" that, "Due to his wrong > > identification of Maurya Chandragupta as the contemporary of > > Alexander, the history of Bharat has been shifted by 12 centuries > > (and) it is the Chandragupta of the Gupta dynasty who belongs to > 327- > > 320 B.C." Thus, due to the confusion in pinpointing properly > > the "sheet anchor" of Indian history, Lord Buddha's antiquity has > > been underestimated by about 1200 years. Now that Chandragupta > Maurya > > reigned in 1550 B.C. (instead of 325 B.C.), the time when the latter > > flourished can be calculation to be around 1850 B.C. (instead of 550 > > B.C.). > > > > All the Puranas and another historical compilation titled Kaliyug- > > rajavruttanta, profess to describe the Magadha royal dynasties > > starting from the Bruhadratha to the Andhra lineages, after which > the > > Magadha empire disintegrated. It is known from the Bhagavad Puraan > > that Buddha was 23rd in the Ikshwaku lineage. However, the list of > > Ikshwaku kings are not available. In order to determine the date of > > Siddharta (Buddha), it is necessary to find the contemporary kings > in > > the Magadha genealogy. According to different accounts, the Buddha > > was a contemporary of Kshemajita, Bindusar and Ajatashatru, the > 31st- > > 33rd kings of the Shishunaga dynasty. The Buddha was 72 years old > > when the coronation of Ajatashatru took place, that is in 1814 B.C. > > Going backwards, the date of Buddha's birth becomes 1887 B.C. Since > > he lived for 80 years, the Buddha must have left the body in 1807 > B.C. > > > > This date can also be confirmed by purely referring to astronomical > > calculations, and what is correctly and exactly obtained as the date > > for Buddha's nirvana is 27-3-1807 (Sathe, Age of Buddha). This date > > also explains the possibility of the existence of Buddhism in the > > second millennium B.C., as was rejected earlier. The astronomical > > computations of the indologist-astronomer Swami Sakhyananda suggests > > that the Buddha belonged to the Kruttika period, i.e., in between > > 2621-1661 B.C. In his book "Chronology of Ancient Bharat" > > (Part4.Chap2), Prof. K.Srinivasaraghavan states the approximate time > > of Buddha to be 2259 years after the Bharata War (3138 B.C.). which > > turns out to be 1880 B.C. > > > > Thyagaraja Aiyer in his book "Indian Architecture" observes," Here > > lies Indian Sramanacharya from Bodh Gaya, a Shakya monk taken to > > Greece by his Greek pupils and the tomb marks his death about 1000 > > B.C." If the Buddhist monk went to Greece in 1000 B.C., then the > > Buddha must have lived at least a few centuries earlier. Somayajulu > > places Chandragupta Maurya in the 14th century B.C (ref: Dates in > > Ancient History of India). This puts the Buddha three centuries > > earlier, i.e., in the 17th century B.C. A brief chronology of the > > events in Buddha's life:Born in 1887 B.C., Renunciation in 1858 > B.C., > > Penance during 1858-52 B.C and Death in 1807 B.C. > > > > There are various other calculations and evidences which point to > the > > 1800 B.C. date. However, it is believed that, at least for this > > article, the presentation made above suffices to convince and > > ascertain the date of Buddha. > > > > regds > > Tushankur > > > > Whilst this email has been checked for all known viruses, > recipients should undertake their own virus checking as Xansa will > not accept any liability whatsoever. > > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > protected by client privilege. It is solely for the use of the > intended recipient. > > Please delete it and notify the sender if you have received it in > > error. Unauthorised use is prohibited. > > > > Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual > and not > > necessarily the organisation. > > Xansa, Registered Office: 420 Thames Valley Park Drive, > > Thames Valley Park, Reading, RG6 1PU, UK. > > Registered in England No.1000954. > > t +44 (0)8702 416181 > > w www.xansa.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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