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Dear Tushankar

 

 

Is this a history channel or a history list??. You could have provide

a link, and in subject could have mentioned non astrological??

best wishes

partha

 

 

vedic astrology, tushankur.saroha@x wrote:

> Dear List Members

>

> The article on the web site below claims Skayamuni Budha

> ( Gautam Budha) was born around 1800BC. This puts Budha's

> birth back by 1200 years. Any comments?

>

> http://www.vnn.org/editorials/ET0003/ET14-5679.html

>

> This article is as follows:

> March 14, 2000 VNN5679 Comment on this story

>

> The Vedic Buddha Date

>

>

> --

--

> BY VRIN PARKER

>

> EDITORIAL, Mar 14 (VNN) â€" Below I have compiled a quick overview

from

> the writings of Prof Prasad Gokhale from the University of New

> Brunswick, Canada, on the subject of the Vedic Date for Lord

Buddha's

> appearance. Also note that the British date of 800 AD for Adi

> Shankaracharya is incorrect as is the date for Chanakya Pandit,

> Chandragupta Maurya and the Gupta dynasty.

>

> Two major sects of Vaidik Dharma, namely, that of Jaina and Buddha

> (1800 B.C.), rose and assumed a large following during this period.

> One of the greatest philosophers in Hindu history, and perhaps in

> world history, Aadi Shankaracharya also flourished in this era (500

> B.C.).

>

> The rise of Arya Chanakya and Chandragupta of Maurya dynasty (1530

> B.C.), and the historical evidence to the golden age of the Hindus

> under the umbrella of the Gupta dynasty (325 B.C.) also occured

> during this period.

>

> .. Evidence testifies that Buddha and Aadi Shankara lived 1800 B.C.

> and 500 B.C respectively. The "golden age" in India was ushered with

> the rise of the Gupta dynasty. It was Chandragupta of the Guptas,

NOT

> THE MAURYAS, who reigned over the Indian empire around 325 B.C., a

> time when Macedonian Alexander had invaded India.

>

> The currently established chronology of India initiates with the

> invasion of the so-called aryan race in 1500 B.C., which ruthlessly

> and forcefully subdued the original inhabitants of the land,

imposing

> upon them a alien language and culture. The invading hordes settled

> down on the banks of river Sindhu (Indus), and within few centuries

> (1200 B.C.), complied the Veda. Subsequently, the Brahmanas,

> Samhitas, Puranas and numerous other scriptures were composed. Where

> does the Ramayan and Mahabharat fit in? Some say that the Ramayan

> follows Mahabharat and some opine otherwise. In all this anarchy of

> Indian histography, the probable date of Mahabharat ranges between

> 1000 B.C.to 300 B.C.

>

> The identification of Sandrocottus (325 B.C.) of the Greeks with

> Chandragupta Maurya by Sir Jones was considered to the "sheet

anchor"

> and based on this assumption, a chronology of Indian history was

> constructed. THE DATE WHEN GAUTAMA BUDDHA PROSPERED WAS CALCULATED

> FROM THIS SHEET ANCHOR TO BE AROUND 500 BC, and the dateline of Aadi

> Shankara was put in 800 A.D. The Gupta Dynasty, whose reign ushered

a

> Golden Age in India, were placed in the 4th century A.D.

>

> Examination of the Rgved, Puraan and other texts provide dates of

> events that took Indian history, at times, back to thousands of

> years. However, since these dates contradicted the prevalent views

of

> Europeans historians, the saunskrut texts were academically attacked

> in an attempt to disprove the authenticity of the annals. For

> example, the European Indologist Maxmuller, tried the interpret the

> astronomical evidences to prove that the observations recorded in

the

> Hindu scriptures are imaginary, "pious frauds" created by the

cunning

> Brahmanas. Numerous references which were anachronous to the

> particular time-frames were either considered as unauthentic and

> unreliable. No attempt was made to recheck and reevaluate the

> presumptions and basis on which the chronological structure was

built.

>

> ...Sage Buddha is also considered as yet another avataar, and the

> time he prospered is determined below. However, to determine the age

> when Buddha flourished requires finding dates of some other events

in

> the course of history. The datelines of Maurya Chandragupta and his

> grandson, Maurya Ashoka, are considered in the following two

sections.

>

> 14. Gautam Buddha - Modern history tends to inform readers that

> Gautama was born around 550 B.C. and died after about 80 years.

> Pandit Kota Venkatachalam, writes in his book "The Age of Buddha,

> Milinda and King Amtiyoka and Yuga Purana" that, "Due to his wrong

> identification of Maurya Chandragupta as the contemporary of

> Alexander, the history of Bharat has been shifted by 12 centuries

> (and) it is the Chandragupta of the Gupta dynasty who belongs to

327-

> 320 B.C." Thus, due to the confusion in pinpointing properly

> the "sheet anchor" of Indian history, Lord Buddha's antiquity has

> been underestimated by about 1200 years. Now that Chandragupta

Maurya

> reigned in 1550 B.C. (instead of 325 B.C.), the time when the latter

> flourished can be calculation to be around 1850 B.C. (instead of 550

> B.C.).

>

> All the Puranas and another historical compilation titled Kaliyug-

> rajavruttanta, profess to describe the Magadha royal dynasties

> starting from the Bruhadratha to the Andhra lineages, after which

the

> Magadha empire disintegrated. It is known from the Bhagavad Puraan

> that Buddha was 23rd in the Ikshwaku lineage. However, the list of

> Ikshwaku kings are not available. In order to determine the date of

> Siddharta (Buddha), it is necessary to find the contemporary kings

in

> the Magadha genealogy. According to different accounts, the Buddha

> was a contemporary of Kshemajita, Bindusar and Ajatashatru, the

31st-

> 33rd kings of the Shishunaga dynasty. The Buddha was 72 years old

> when the coronation of Ajatashatru took place, that is in 1814 B.C.

> Going backwards, the date of Buddha's birth becomes 1887 B.C. Since

> he lived for 80 years, the Buddha must have left the body in 1807

B.C.

>

> This date can also be confirmed by purely referring to astronomical

> calculations, and what is correctly and exactly obtained as the date

> for Buddha's nirvana is 27-3-1807 (Sathe, Age of Buddha). This date

> also explains the possibility of the existence of Buddhism in the

> second millennium B.C., as was rejected earlier. The astronomical

> computations of the indologist-astronomer Swami Sakhyananda suggests

> that the Buddha belonged to the Kruttika period, i.e., in between

> 2621-1661 B.C. In his book "Chronology of Ancient Bharat"

> (Part4.Chap2), Prof. K.Srinivasaraghavan states the approximate time

> of Buddha to be 2259 years after the Bharata War (3138 B.C.). which

> turns out to be 1880 B.C.

>

> Thyagaraja Aiyer in his book "Indian Architecture" observes," Here

> lies Indian Sramanacharya from Bodh Gaya, a Shakya monk taken to

> Greece by his Greek pupils and the tomb marks his death about 1000

> B.C." If the Buddhist monk went to Greece in 1000 B.C., then the

> Buddha must have lived at least a few centuries earlier. Somayajulu

> places Chandragupta Maurya in the 14th century B.C (ref: Dates in

> Ancient History of India). This puts the Buddha three centuries

> earlier, i.e., in the 17th century B.C. A brief chronology of the

> events in Buddha's life:Born in 1887 B.C., Renunciation in 1858

B.C.,

> Penance during 1858-52 B.C and Death in 1807 B.C.

>

> There are various other calculations and evidences which point to

the

> 1800 B.C. date. However, it is believed that, at least for this

> article, the presentation made above suffices to convince and

> ascertain the date of Buddha.

>

> regds

> Tushankur

>

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Dear All,

 

JUST FOR INFORMATION

 

In Dr. B V Raman's NOTABLE HOROSCOPES, pp 9-16, Chart No 2 - SRI

GAUTAMA BUDDHA, Birth Details of 14th April 623 B.C.(corresponding

the Full Moon day of the lunar month of Vaisakha, Kali 2479,

Tuesday), at about midday (Lat 27-8 N, 83-6 E)have been estimated

from four independent sources and also mentions other DOBs of 10-3-

1887 BC, Tuseday, 4-4-557 BC, Friday & 1-4-543 BC, Friday.

 

Best regards,

 

tw

 

vedic astrology, "V.Partha sarathy"

<partvinu@g...> wrote:

>

> Dear Tushankar

>

>

> Is this a history channel or a history list??. You could have

provide

> a link, and in subject could have mentioned non astrological??

> best wishes

> partha

>

>

> vedic astrology, tushankur.saroha@x wrote:

> > Dear List Members

> >

> > The article on the web site below claims Skayamuni Budha

> > ( Gautam Budha) was born around 1800BC. This puts Budha's

> > birth back by 1200 years. Any comments?

> >

> > http://www.vnn.org/editorials/ET0003/ET14-5679.html

> >

> > This article is as follows:

> > March 14, 2000 VNN5679 Comment on this story

> >

> > The Vedic Buddha Date

> >

> >

> >

--

> --

> > BY VRIN PARKER

> >

> > EDITORIAL, Mar 14 (VNN) â€" Below I have compiled a quick

overview

> from

> > the writings of Prof Prasad Gokhale from the University of New

> > Brunswick, Canada, on the subject of the Vedic Date for Lord

> Buddha's

> > appearance. Also note that the British date of 800 AD for Adi

> > Shankaracharya is incorrect as is the date for Chanakya Pandit,

> > Chandragupta Maurya and the Gupta dynasty.

> >

> > Two major sects of Vaidik Dharma, namely, that of Jaina and Buddha

> > (1800 B.C.), rose and assumed a large following during this

period.

> > One of the greatest philosophers in Hindu history, and perhaps in

> > world history, Aadi Shankaracharya also flourished in this era

(500

> > B.C.).

> >

> > The rise of Arya Chanakya and Chandragupta of Maurya dynasty (1530

> > B.C.), and the historical evidence to the golden age of the Hindus

> > under the umbrella of the Gupta dynasty (325 B.C.) also occured

> > during this period.

> >

> > .. Evidence testifies that Buddha and Aadi Shankara lived 1800

B.C.

> > and 500 B.C respectively. The "golden age" in India was ushered

with

> > the rise of the Gupta dynasty. It was Chandragupta of the Guptas,

> NOT

> > THE MAURYAS, who reigned over the Indian empire around 325 B.C., a

> > time when Macedonian Alexander had invaded India.

> >

> > The currently established chronology of India initiates with the

> > invasion of the so-called aryan race in 1500 B.C., which

ruthlessly

> > and forcefully subdued the original inhabitants of the land,

> imposing

> > upon them a alien language and culture. The invading hordes

settled

> > down on the banks of river Sindhu (Indus), and within few

centuries

> > (1200 B.C.), complied the Veda. Subsequently, the Brahmanas,

> > Samhitas, Puranas and numerous other scriptures were composed.

Where

> > does the Ramayan and Mahabharat fit in? Some say that the Ramayan

> > follows Mahabharat and some opine otherwise. In all this anarchy

of

> > Indian histography, the probable date of Mahabharat ranges between

> > 1000 B.C.to 300 B.C.

> >

> > The identification of Sandrocottus (325 B.C.) of the Greeks with

> > Chandragupta Maurya by Sir Jones was considered to the "sheet

> anchor"

> > and based on this assumption, a chronology of Indian history was

> > constructed. THE DATE WHEN GAUTAMA BUDDHA PROSPERED WAS CALCULATED

> > FROM THIS SHEET ANCHOR TO BE AROUND 500 BC, and the dateline of

Aadi

> > Shankara was put in 800 A.D. The Gupta Dynasty, whose reign

ushered

> a

> > Golden Age in India, were placed in the 4th century A.D.

> >

> > Examination of the Rgved, Puraan and other texts provide dates of

> > events that took Indian history, at times, back to thousands of

> > years. However, since these dates contradicted the prevalent

views

> of

> > Europeans historians, the saunskrut texts were academically

attacked

> > in an attempt to disprove the authenticity of the annals. For

> > example, the European Indologist Maxmuller, tried the interpret

the

> > astronomical evidences to prove that the observations recorded in

> the

> > Hindu scriptures are imaginary, "pious frauds" created by the

> cunning

> > Brahmanas. Numerous references which were anachronous to the

> > particular time-frames were either considered as unauthentic and

> > unreliable. No attempt was made to recheck and reevaluate the

> > presumptions and basis on which the chronological structure was

> built.

> >

> > ...Sage Buddha is also considered as yet another avataar, and the

> > time he prospered is determined below. However, to determine the

age

> > when Buddha flourished requires finding dates of some other

events

> in

> > the course of history. The datelines of Maurya Chandragupta and

his

> > grandson, Maurya Ashoka, are considered in the following two

> sections.

> >

> > 14. Gautam Buddha - Modern history tends to inform readers that

> > Gautama was born around 550 B.C. and died after about 80 years.

> > Pandit Kota Venkatachalam, writes in his book "The Age of Buddha,

> > Milinda and King Amtiyoka and Yuga Purana" that, "Due to his wrong

> > identification of Maurya Chandragupta as the contemporary of

> > Alexander, the history of Bharat has been shifted by 12 centuries

> > (and) it is the Chandragupta of the Gupta dynasty who belongs to

> 327-

> > 320 B.C." Thus, due to the confusion in pinpointing properly

> > the "sheet anchor" of Indian history, Lord Buddha's antiquity has

> > been underestimated by about 1200 years. Now that Chandragupta

> Maurya

> > reigned in 1550 B.C. (instead of 325 B.C.), the time when the

latter

> > flourished can be calculation to be around 1850 B.C. (instead of

550

> > B.C.).

> >

> > All the Puranas and another historical compilation titled Kaliyug-

> > rajavruttanta, profess to describe the Magadha royal dynasties

> > starting from the Bruhadratha to the Andhra lineages, after which

> the

> > Magadha empire disintegrated. It is known from the Bhagavad Puraan

> > that Buddha was 23rd in the Ikshwaku lineage. However, the list of

> > Ikshwaku kings are not available. In order to determine the date

of

> > Siddharta (Buddha), it is necessary to find the contemporary

kings

> in

> > the Magadha genealogy. According to different accounts, the Buddha

> > was a contemporary of Kshemajita, Bindusar and Ajatashatru, the

> 31st-

> > 33rd kings of the Shishunaga dynasty. The Buddha was 72 years old

> > when the coronation of Ajatashatru took place, that is in 1814

B.C.

> > Going backwards, the date of Buddha's birth becomes 1887 B.C.

Since

> > he lived for 80 years, the Buddha must have left the body in 1807

> B.C.

> >

> > This date can also be confirmed by purely referring to

astronomical

> > calculations, and what is correctly and exactly obtained as the

date

> > for Buddha's nirvana is 27-3-1807 (Sathe, Age of Buddha). This

date

> > also explains the possibility of the existence of Buddhism in the

> > second millennium B.C., as was rejected earlier. The astronomical

> > computations of the indologist-astronomer Swami Sakhyananda

suggests

> > that the Buddha belonged to the Kruttika period, i.e., in between

> > 2621-1661 B.C. In his book "Chronology of Ancient Bharat"

> > (Part4.Chap2), Prof. K.Srinivasaraghavan states the approximate

time

> > of Buddha to be 2259 years after the Bharata War (3138 B.C.).

which

> > turns out to be 1880 B.C.

> >

> > Thyagaraja Aiyer in his book "Indian Architecture" observes," Here

> > lies Indian Sramanacharya from Bodh Gaya, a Shakya monk taken to

> > Greece by his Greek pupils and the tomb marks his death about 1000

> > B.C." If the Buddhist monk went to Greece in 1000 B.C., then the

> > Buddha must have lived at least a few centuries earlier.

Somayajulu

> > places Chandragupta Maurya in the 14th century B.C (ref: Dates in

> > Ancient History of India). This puts the Buddha three centuries

> > earlier, i.e., in the 17th century B.C. A brief chronology of the

> > events in Buddha's life:Born in 1887 B.C., Renunciation in 1858

> B.C.,

> > Penance during 1858-52 B.C and Death in 1807 B.C.

> >

> > There are various other calculations and evidences which point to

> the

> > 1800 B.C. date. However, it is believed that, at least for this

> > article, the presentation made above suffices to convince and

> > ascertain the date of Buddha.

> >

> > regds

> > Tushankur

> >

> > Whilst this email has been checked for all known viruses,

> recipients should undertake their own virus checking as Xansa will

> not accept any liability whatsoever.

> >

> > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and

> protected by client privilege. It is solely for the use of the

> intended recipient.

> > Please delete it and notify the sender if you have received it in

> > error. Unauthorised use is prohibited.

> >

> > Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual

> and not

> > necessarily the organisation.

> > Xansa, Registered Office: 420 Thames Valley Park Drive,

> > Thames Valley Park, Reading, RG6 1PU, UK.

> > Registered in England No.1000954.

> > t +44 (0)8702 416181

> > w www.xansa.com

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