Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Dear Pallavi, I agree that people may be influenced by submitted infos, however a few things should be noted. NOT ALL THE PEOPLE HERE ARE JYOTISH GURU AT SJC. THis should be kept in mind. GO CAREFULLY true my mails and you will see that I have never stated anything against your 7 points given here, just explained the events and the cause of it. I am not saying this to emphasize my role as Jyotish Guru, but for the sake of SJC centre. This statement "In short he is exactly OPPOSITE to what YOU learned GURUS, have made him. " should serve as both reminder to you (irony is not something one should be proud of), nor to those astrologers on the list who put a pen and analyzed this chart with insufficient knowledge, and prior to deeper examination. Best wishes to all Zoran RadosavljevicJyotish Guru at Shri Jagannath Centre Serbiawww.sjc-serbia.com - Pallavi Aggarwal vedic astrology Wednesday, March 02, 2005 2:52 PM [vedic astrology] TIME TO GO HOME: Criminal at early age Hi All Members and Learned Members, First of all, my intension is not to offend or insult any one. I Just want to convey something. NOW. The person I presented as CRIMINAL is actually1) Working in MNC at very good/reputed and Highly paid job.2) Married completely according to parents wishes.3) Very soft spoken and cute looking.4) DEVOTEE of Lord KRSNA, offers prayers everyday, regularly.5) Pure vaishnav vegetarian, with occaissional onion/garlic.6) Simplest life-style of whole family, though everyone is earning well.7) Calm and quite, never boasting. In short he is exactly OPPOSITE to what YOU learned GURUS, have made him. Now, try to understand, You don't go by general analysis, rather take for granted what the person is saying. Some Astrologer once said to me, "First lesson of astrology is, don't look at the present state of person OR what he is saying. Judge him ONLY from kundali. He may be looking, but a millionaire actually." He said Kundali is most powerful Device, so TRUST only kundali and not the person sitting in front of you. Similarily, I know, if I would have given you some CRIMINAL's kundali and presented as Holyman, YOU, would have given your analysis supporting that also. PLEASE, GENERALIZE and REVISE your techniquea. WAKE-UP, YOU ARE NEEDED, BUTIN UNBIASED STATE, WHERE YOU ARE DRIVEN ONLY BY KUNDALI. In last few months, YOU just give analysis according, how the person present himself/herself. YOU don't look weather person deserve it or not. FOR EXAMPLE:- EXAMPLE 1:----Some Mrs. Sudha sent a mail that her husband beats her. Everyone sympathised. DID anyone looked at her : ***** Debilitated Venus in 12th with 8th lord Mars******what do YOU say about her sexual desires and gynaecological problems. His husband seems comparetively better then her. Don't you think she is HIDING something. There is definitely something wrong on her part also. EXAMPLE 2:-Some Raghu, working in IBM call centre, was blaming his 2 girlfriend of being low in character. Everyone answered in his support. DID anyone asked about HIS character, That wot he is doing with 2 girls. A male is permitted to have more then 1 girl without a questionable character, And a girl can't even laugh with 2 boys DONT u think there is a need of UNBIASED analysis, IRRESPECTIVE of WHO sent the mail. I am an amateur, and wanted to show you some kundalis, BUT this incident shows YOU dont have a general UNBIASED INSIGHT. Now please REALISE the mistake, INSTEAD of ABUSING me, or JUSTIFYING yourself with some EXCUSES. There are many people who needs your UNBIASED ADVISE. Thanks Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Dear Sateesh, Very well said. It was infact a total waste of time. The question sounded more of academic interest; one astrologer asking another one, like how come Jup in the 7th has given such a character? As this is a discussion forum, one is expected to cultivate trust and positive feelings! The only thing that is not trusted is the recorded birth time... i think, list admn should give a warning to such people coming up with made-up cases. regards suryavisanadham vedic astrology, "Sateesh Batas" <makara@n...> wrote: > Dear Zoran, > > Agreed - it's a bit like you telling a Doctor (medical) who has met you when you are 25 years old that - you had an accident that hurt your head when you were 12 - when the accident didn't really happen at all ever. > > The good Doctor would not know you were lying, but would take you at your word in the first instance, before delving deeper. > > Sateesh. > > ======== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Om Namo Bhagvate Vasudevaya Dear Pallavi, Please scroll back the emails and you will realize I actually gave reasoning as to why this person has not committed the crime.I analysed the Navamsa and wrote in detail about the points.Infact I got into an argument with this other person on the SJC list about principles from classics.Please be careful when you quote people.Everyone on the list did not accuse this native of anything. Best Wishes, Kanupriya. ><ahimsa (AT) neobee (DOT) net> >vedic astrology ><vedic astrology> >Re: [vedic astrology] TIME TO GO HOME: Criminal at early age >Thu, 3 Mar 2005 04:13:47 +0100 > >Dear Pallavi, >I agree that people may be influenced by submitted infos, however a few things should be noted. NOT ALL THE PEOPLE HERE ARE JYOTISH GURU AT SJC. THis should be kept in mind. GO CAREFULLY true my mails and you will see that I have never stated anything against your 7 points given here, just explained the events and the cause of it. I am not saying this to emphasize my role as Jyotish Guru, but for the sake of SJC centre. This statement "In short he is exactly OPPOSITE to what YOU learned GURUS, have made him. " should serve as both reminder to you (irony is not something one should be proud of), nor to those astrologers on the list who put a pen and analyzed this chart with insufficient knowledge, and prior to deeper examination. >Best wishes to all >Zoran Radosavljevic >Jyotish Guru at Shri Jagannath Centre Serbia >www.sjc-serbia.com > - > Pallavi Aggarwal > vedic astrology > Wednesday, March 02, 2005 2:52 PM > [vedic astrology] TIME TO GO HOME: Criminal at early age > > > Hi All Members and Learned Members, > > First of all, my intension is not to offend or insult any one. I Just want to convey something. NOW. > > The person I presented as CRIMINAL is actually > 1) Working in MNC at very good/reputed and Highly paid job. > 2) Married completely according to parents wishes. > 3) Very soft spoken and cute looking. > 4) DEVOTEE of Lord KRSNA, offers prayers everyday, regularly. > 5) Pure vaishnav vegetarian, with occaissional onion/garlic. > 6) Simplest life-style of whole family, though everyone is earning well. > 7) Calm and quite, never boasting. > > In short he is exactly OPPOSITE to what YOU learned GURUS, have made him. > > Now, try to understand, You don't go by general analysis, rather take for granted what the person is saying. Some Astrologer once said to me, "First lesson of astrology is, don't look at the present state of person OR what he is saying. Judge him ONLY from kundali. He may be looking, but a millionaire actually." He said Kundali is most powerful Device, so TRUST only kundali and not the person sitting in front of you. > > Similarily, I know, if I would have given you some CRIMINAL's kundali and presented as Holyman, YOU, would have given your analysis supporting that also. PLEASE, GENERALIZE and REVISE your techniquea. WAKE-UP, YOU ARE NEEDED, BUTIN UNBIASED STATE, WHERE YOU ARE DRIVEN ONLY BY KUNDALI. > > In last few months, YOU just give analysis according, how the person present himself/herself. YOU don't look weather person deserve it or not. FOR EXAMPLE:- > > EXAMPLE 1:---- > Some Mrs. Sudha sent a mail that her husband beats her. Everyone sympathised. DID anyone looked at her : ***** Debilitated Venus in 12th with 8th lord Mars****** > what do YOU say about her sexual desires and gynaecological problems. His husband seems comparetively better then her. Don't you think she is HIDING something. There is definitely something wrong on her part also. > > EXAMPLE 2:- > Some Raghu, working in IBM call centre, was blaming his 2 girlfriend of being low in character. Everyone answered in his support. DID anyone asked about HIS character, That wot he is doing with 2 girls. A male is permitted to have more then 1 girl without a questionable character, And a girl can't even laugh with 2 boys > > DONT u think there is a need of UNBIASED analysis, IRRESPECTIVE of WHO sent the mail. > > I am an amateur, and wanted to show you some kundalis, BUT this incident shows YOU dont have a general UNBIASED INSIGHT. > > Now please REALISE the mistake, INSTEAD of ABUSING me, or JUSTIFYING yourself with some EXCUSES. There are many people who needs your UNBIASED ADVISE. > > Thanks > > > > Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! > Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > Sponsor > Links > > > vedic astrology/ > > b.. > vedic astrology > > c.. > Cool ringtones, snazzy logos. Expressive MMS cards and pix. Tune in to a whole new world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Hi Pallavi, What you are saying is truth to a certain extent. But we never got reply from your side, about a mail that we composed about his looks and character.so we can know whther Kundli is right.But as we don't get reply, we assumed a kundli to be right. I doubt a time that you have given must be wrong. In navamasa of his chart Mars and jupiter in 12th in aquarius,He should be a flesh eater.And you are saying he is a bhakta of Lord Krishna. Your Time of birth is definately wrong.Scorpio rising with Drekkan cancer are dep Lover and If Mars in Kendra for that rising makes them violent too,I think your chart is wrong.Data that you gave is absolutely wrong. Rahu,Venus and Mer Vargotaam ,He is very smart.Venus exalted in Lagna in Navmasa(good Looking),but I can not understand a fact Sat and Sun in Scorpio in 9th house,He is not doing any kind of criminal activity. You are saying He is having deep faith in Krishna.Jupiter is not at all that Good in Navmasa.If we look to D-20 chart,Jupiter is strong in Kendra.But Venus in 8th will divert him towards occult. Ithink what you are saying is What he is showing you,rather than who he really is.Do you know him personally. He is soft spoken,Moon and Saturn aspect to 3rd house.Cute Looking,I will take it as decent looking,Jupiter aspect to lagna. Calm and Quite,Mars in Kendra and He is calm and quite.I doubt I will say chek a birth data.Navamasa and Lagna both need to be rectified. Because cute looking,Religious,sweet spoken I don't see in a chart. can you fron given birth data give us explanation for all that he possess.I don't think so. --- Pallavi Aggarwal <resplendentaura wrote: > Hi All Members and Learned Members, > > First of all, my intension is not to offend or > insult any one. I Just want to convey something. > NOW. > > The person I presented as CRIMINAL is actually > 1) Working in MNC at very good/reputed and Highly > paid job. > 2) Married completely according to parents wishes. > 3) Very soft spoken and cute looking. > 4) DEVOTEE of Lord KRSNA, offers prayers everyday, > regularly. > 5) Pure vaishnav vegetarian, with occaissional > onion/garlic. > 6) Simplest life-style of whole family, though > everyone is earning well. > 7) Calm and quite, never boasting. > > In short he is exactly OPPOSITE to what YOU learned > GURUS, have made him. > > Now, try to understand, You don't go by general > analysis, rather take for granted what the person is > saying. Some Astrologer once said to me, "First > lesson of astrology is, don't look at the present > state of person OR what he is saying. Judge him ONLY > from kundali. He may be looking, but a millionaire > actually." He said Kundali is most powerful Device, > so TRUST only kundali and not the person sitting in > front of you. > > Similarily, I know, if I would have given you some > CRIMINAL's kundali and presented as Holyman, YOU, > would have given your analysis supporting that also. > PLEASE, GENERALIZE and REVISE your techniquea. > WAKE-UP, YOU ARE NEEDED, BUTIN UNBIASED STATE, WHERE > YOU ARE DRIVEN ONLY BY KUNDALI. > > In last few months, YOU just give analysis > according, how the person present himself/herself. > YOU don't look weather person deserve it or not. FOR > EXAMPLE:- > > EXAMPLE 1:---- > Some Mrs. Sudha sent a mail that her husband beats > her. Everyone sympathised. DID anyone looked at her > : ***** Debilitated Venus in 12th with 8th lord > Mars****** > what do YOU say about her sexual desires and > gynaecological problems. His husband seems > comparetively better then her. Don't you think she > is HIDING something. There is definitely something > wrong on her part also. > > EXAMPLE 2:- > Some Raghu, working in IBM call centre, was blaming > his 2 girlfriend of being low in character. Everyone > answered in his support. DID anyone asked about HIS > character, That wot he is doing with 2 girls. A male > is permitted to have more then 1 girl without a > questionable character, And a girl can't even laugh > with 2 boys > > DONT u think there is a need of UNBIASED analysis, > IRRESPECTIVE of WHO sent the mail. > > I am an amateur, and wanted to show you some > kundalis, BUT this incident shows YOU dont have a > general UNBIASED INSIGHT. > > Now please REALISE the mistake, INSTEAD of ABUSING > me, or JUSTIFYING yourself with some EXCUSES. There > are many people who needs your UNBIASED ADVISE. > > Thanks > > > > > > > Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! > Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web ===== "Love is the beauty of the soul""For it was not into my ear you whispered, but into my heart.It was not my lips you kissed, but my soul." Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday./netrospective/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Dear Pallavi Namaste You have raised many good points but possibly missed some. Lets be clear that this is a forum where people do astrology free of cost. So there is no point in testing their ability. Secondly there is a difference in Internet Astrolgy and Real astrology. What ever you have written is totally applicable in real astrology where as a astrologer one must emphasize on jatak, see him/her and confirmed that the kundali is right. In the internet astrology it is not possible. In internet astrology there is element of trust that works. What do you think as to why have they replied to your mails when you asked them for a specific purpose. Does every one want to prove oneself here? It is usually belived that girls dont play tricks(I hope Pallavi Aggrawal is your real name!) and according to Vedic tradition people responded trusting you. Why should astrologers verify always and try to analyse information given. While going on the road you do trust that the driver of the vehicle coming from opposite direction knows rules of driving otherwise you wont drive vehicles on the roads! Same is the case here. Every body every time can not verify the info given. Most of the time will be wasted in verifyng and this forum will be utilized only by those who have that much of time to waste! I agree that people must see the other side of the info given before analysing the chart but jsut remember it is not possible(because of Time factor) for every body. Moreover there are astrologers like Kanu who actually said as you expected. So there are people who are alert in their readings. So appriciate the spirit and stop playing such tricks to educate the Gurus! Even Lord Parashurama was fooled by Karna. So when GOD can be fooled why to bother about poor astrologers! Anyway your exercise must be an eye opener for many Internet Astrologers. Thanks for that. Thanks a lot for your Time and reverse Astrology. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar vedic astrology, Pallavi Aggarwal <resplendentaura> wrote: > Hi All Members and Learned Members, > > First of all, my intension is not to offend or insult any one. I Just want to convey something. NOW. > > The person I presented as CRIMINAL is actually > 1) Working in MNC at very good/reputed and Highly paid job. > 2) Married completely according to parents wishes. > 3) Very soft spoken and cute looking. > 4) DEVOTEE of Lord KRSNA, offers prayers everyday, regularly. > 5) Pure vaishnav vegetarian, with occaissional onion/garlic. > 6) Simplest life-style of whole family, though everyone is earning well. > 7) Calm and quite, never boasting. > > In short he is exactly OPPOSITE to what YOU learned GURUS, have made him. > > Now, try to understand, You don't go by general analysis, rather take for granted what the person is saying. Some Astrologer once said to me, "First lesson of astrology is, don't look at the present state of person OR what he is saying. Judge him ONLY from kundali. He may be looking, but a millionaire actually." He said Kundali is most powerful Device, so TRUST only kundali and not the person sitting in front of you. > > Similarily, I know, if I would have given you some CRIMINAL's kundali and presented as Holyman, YOU, would have given your analysis supporting that also. PLEASE, GENERALIZE and REVISE your techniquea. WAKE-UP, YOU ARE NEEDED, BUTIN UNBIASED STATE, WHERE YOU ARE DRIVEN ONLY BY KUNDALI. > > In last few months, YOU just give analysis according, how the person present himself/herself. YOU don't look weather person deserve it or not. FOR EXAMPLE:- > > EXAMPLE 1:---- > Some Mrs. Sudha sent a mail that her husband beats her. Everyone sympathised. DID anyone looked at her : ***** Debilitated Venus in 12th with 8th lord Mars****** > what do YOU say about her sexual desires and gynaecological problems. His husband seems comparetively better then her. Don't you think she is HIDING something. There is definitely something wrong on her part also. > > EXAMPLE 2:- > Some Raghu, working in IBM call centre, was blaming his 2 girlfriend of being low in character. Everyone answered in his support. DID anyone asked about HIS character, That wot he is doing with 2 girls. A male is permitted to have more then 1 girl without a questionable character, And a girl can't even laugh with 2 boys > > DONT u think there is a need of UNBIASED analysis, IRRESPECTIVE of WHO sent the mail. > > I am an amateur, and wanted to show you some kundalis, BUT this incident shows YOU dont have a general UNBIASED INSIGHT. > > Now please REALISE the mistake, INSTEAD of ABUSING me, or JUSTIFYING yourself with some EXCUSES. There are many people who needs your UNBIASED ADVISE. > > Thanks > > > > > Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! > Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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