Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Namaste members, Why are the same Nakshatra/Pada not recommended for marital matching of bride and groom? Some apply this rule for any Nakshatra/Pada and others give only a subset of Nakshatras for which this rule applies. What is the source (book and rishi/guru) for this rule? thanks and rgds -Prasad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 I can say one reason for this. If the bride and the groom are born in same nakshathra, then they both will encounter the Sadhe Sathi (7.5 years of Saturn transit) at the same time. If they are born in same nakshathra, then their Sadhe sathi periods are different, and if the period of one person is adverse, atleast the period of the other will balance out. If both of them have the adverse period at the same time, then imagine how hard for them to pass 7.5 years of testing period. The situation will be more intense if they are born in the same pada of the same nakshathra, because Sadhe sathi is typically the time beginning when Saturn enters 45 degrees prior to Moon's longitude and ends when Saturn transits to 45 degrees after Moon's longitude. There may be other reasons too. But this is a certain reason. Regards, Satya Sai Kolachina vvootla [vvootla] Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:50 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Marital Matching - Same Nakshatra/Pada Namaste members, Why are the same Nakshatra/Pada not recommended for marital matching of bride and groom? Some apply this rule for any Nakshatra/Pada and others give only a subset of Nakshatras for which this rule applies. What is the source (book and rishi/guru) for this rule? thanks and rgds -Prasad ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Namaste Satya gAru, Is Sade-Sati saturn transit w.r.t Chandra lagna? I understood it as transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st and 2nd houses( w.r.t Lagna) of Rasi or Bhava chart. Even so, if Saturn is a yOga karaka for one or both of the groom and bride then is it allowed? I did come across a reasoning that same Nakshatra/Pada can result in some dasa sandhi (in Vimsottari of Moon). But this depends on the age difference between groom and bride. Moreover, dasa sandhi can happen with other Nakshatras too and also if that is the reason the correct method is to evaluate Vimsottari Dasas and look for malefic dasa sandhi periods, instead of an indirect avoid sama Nakshatra/Pada rule. regards -Prasad vedic astrology, "Satya S Kolachina" <skolachi@h...> wrote: > I can say one reason for this. If the bride and the groom are born in same > nakshathra, then they both will encounter the Sadhe Sathi (7.5 years of > Saturn transit) at the same time. If they are born in same nakshathra, then > their Sadhe sathi periods are different, and if the period of one person is > adverse, atleast the period of the other will balance out. If both of them > have the adverse period at the same time, then imagine how hard for them to > pass 7.5 years of testing period. > > The situation will be more intense if they are born in the same pada of the > same nakshathra, because Sadhe sathi is typically the time beginning when > Saturn enters 45 degrees prior to Moon's longitude and ends when Saturn > transits to 45 degrees after Moon's longitude. > > There may be other reasons too. But this is a certain reason. > > Regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > vvootla [vvootla@g...] > Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:50 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Marital Matching - Same Nakshatra/Pada > > > > Namaste members, > > Why are the same Nakshatra/Pada not recommended for marital > matching of bride and groom? Some apply this rule for any > Nakshatra/Pada and others give only a subset of Nakshatras for which > this rule applies. What is the source (book and rishi/guru) for this > rule? > > thanks and rgds > -Prasad > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ...... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Namaste Prasad garu, (a) Sadhe Sathi is actually defined as Saturn transit over the 12th, 1st and 2nd with respect to Chandra Lagna, even though some astrologers also see it with respect to Lagna. I have verified this fact with several learned astrologers, including Sri KN Rao's articles in his books as well as Journal Of Astrology define Sadhe Sathi with respect to Chandra Lagna only. He even refined the definition, which I mentioned in my posting before. For example, if Moon is in Pisces for someone at 20 deg. longitude, then the actual sadhe sathi starts when Saturn is 45 deg. before Moon's longitude, which is 5 deg. in Aquarius, and ends when Saturn reaches 45 deg. after Moon's longitude, which is 5 deg Taurus. Saturn's transit over this 90 deg. zone over Moon will cause Sadhe sathi happen, with more intensified results when Saturn is 5 deg. before and after Moon. This has been a published research by Sri KN rao's students in JOA. In terms of time units, it comes out to be 7.5 yrs anyway. But the Moon's degrees matter while computing Sadhe Sathi, and we should not blindly take the 12th house, 1st house and 2nd house with respect to Moon. I have also verified in horoscopes and it really worked well this way. (b) Sadhe sathi doesn't always have to bring bad results. Again articles published by Sri KN Rao and his students at Bharathiya Vidya Bhavan indicate that researches proved that sometimes Sadhe sathi brings in good results. However, even good results also will be coupled with some agony, and stress in the individual, because Saturn is naturally a malefic planet. The same is the case when Saturn is yogakaraka also. When Saturn is yogakaraka for someone (Libra and Taurus Lagna born people), still its position and aspect/conjunction with other planets makes a difference, and the malefic impact may be lessened compared to someone who has Saturn as maraka planet. Another feature is that a person may undergo more than one Sadhe Sathi during his/her lifetime; while one Sadhe sathi may bring good results the others may bring malefic results. We also have to look into the Vimshothari dasha running at that time. For example, if Sadhe sathi is coupled with maha dasha of a badly placed/aspected Sani, then we cannot expect much positive results during that period. Sri KN Rao wrote a book on exclusively Sadhe sathi itself. It is very educative and useful. © With respect to horoscope matching (your primary question), I have not done much work in that area; however, my interaction with some learned people indicates that both the bride and groom may undergo Sadhe Sathi at the sametime, and hence care has to be taken while matching this particular feature. Your emphasis that the Vimshothari dasha should be considered, is also a valid point. Roughly how many Sadhe sathis both of them will undergo may be calculated, and also the dasha running at those times should be taken into consideration. Regards, Satya Sai Kolachina vvootla [vvootla] Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:59 PM vedic astrology [vedic astrology] Re: Marital Matching - Same Nakshatra/Pada Namaste Satya gAru, Is Sade-Sati saturn transit w.r.t Chandra lagna? I understood it as transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st and 2nd houses( w.r.t Lagna) of Rasi or Bhava chart. Even so, if Saturn is a yOga karaka for one or both of the groom and bride then is it allowed? I did come across a reasoning that same Nakshatra/Pada can result in some dasa sandhi (in Vimsottari of Moon). But this depends on the age difference between groom and bride. Moreover, dasa sandhi can happen with other Nakshatras too and also if that is the reason the correct method is to evaluate Vimsottari Dasas and look for malefic dasa sandhi periods, instead of an indirect avoid sama Nakshatra/Pada rule. regards -Prasad vedic astrology, "Satya S Kolachina" <skolachi@h...> wrote: > I can say one reason for this. If the bride and the groom are born in same > nakshathra, then they both will encounter the Sadhe Sathi (7.5 years of > Saturn transit) at the same time. If they are born in same nakshathra, then > their Sadhe sathi periods are different, and if the period of one person is > adverse, atleast the period of the other will balance out. If both of them > have the adverse period at the same time, then imagine how hard for them to > pass 7.5 years of testing period. > > The situation will be more intense if they are born in the same pada of the > same nakshathra, because Sadhe sathi is typically the time beginning when > Saturn enters 45 degrees prior to Moon's longitude and ends when Saturn > transits to 45 degrees after Moon's longitude. > > There may be other reasons too. But this is a certain reason. > > Regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > vvootla [vvootla@g...] > Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:50 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Marital Matching - Same Nakshatra/Pada > > > > Namaste members, > > Why are the same Nakshatra/Pada not recommended for marital > matching of bride and groom? Some apply this rule for any > Nakshatra/Pada and others give only a subset of Nakshatras for which > this rule applies. What is the source (book and rishi/guru) for this > rule? > > thanks and rgds > -Prasad > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ...... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Hello Satya gAru, Thanks for the detailed information regds Sade-Sati. I read the articles from JOA quite sometime ago and your message made me refresh the same. Regds the same star/pada for marriage, besides the transits and dasha sandi, some people seem to belive the absence of Nadi koota and Rajju for the same star/pada. But I couldn't find the reason for the same. Hopefully someone more learned and experienced may throw light on this thanks and rgds -Prasad vedic astrology, "Satya S Kolachina" <skolachi@h...> wrote: > Namaste Prasad garu, > > (a) Sadhe Sathi is actually defined as Saturn transit over the 12th, 1st and > 2nd with respect to Chandra Lagna, even though some astrologers also see it > with respect to Lagna. I have verified this fact with several learned > astrologers, including Sri KN Rao's articles in his books as well as Journal > Of Astrology define Sadhe Sathi with respect to Chandra Lagna only. He even > refined the definition, which I mentioned in my posting before. For example, > if Moon is in Pisces for someone at 20 deg. longitude, then the actual sadhe > sathi starts when Saturn is 45 deg. before Moon's longitude, which is 5 deg. > in Aquarius, and ends when Saturn reaches 45 deg. after Moon's longitude, > which is 5 deg Taurus. Saturn's transit over this 90 deg. zone over Moon > will cause Sadhe sathi happen, with more intensified results when Saturn is > 5 deg. before and after Moon. This has been a published research by Sri KN > rao's students in JOA. In terms of time units, it comes out to be 7.5 yrs > anyway. But the Moon's degrees matter while computing Sadhe Sathi, and we > should not blindly take the 12th house, 1st house and 2nd house with respect > to Moon. I have also verified in horoscopes and it really worked well this > way. > > (b) Sadhe sathi doesn't always have to bring bad results. Again articles > published by Sri KN Rao and his students at Bharathiya Vidya Bhavan indicate > that researches proved that sometimes Sadhe sathi brings in good results. > However, even good results also will be coupled with some agony, and stress > in the individual, because Saturn is naturally a malefic planet. The same is > the case when Saturn is yogakaraka also. When Saturn is yogakaraka for > someone (Libra and Taurus Lagna born people), still its position and > aspect/conjunction with other planets makes a difference, and the malefic > impact may be lessened compared to someone who has Saturn as maraka planet. > Another feature is that a person may undergo more than one Sadhe Sathi > during his/her lifetime; while one Sadhe sathi may bring good results the > others may bring malefic results. We also have to look into the Vimshothari > dasha running at that time. For example, if Sadhe sathi is coupled with maha > dasha of a badly placed/aspected Sani, then we cannot expect much positive > results during that period. > > Sri KN Rao wrote a book on exclusively Sadhe sathi itself. It is very > educative and useful. > > © With respect to horoscope matching (your primary question), I have not > done much work in that area; however, my interaction with some learned > people indicates that both the bride and groom may undergo Sadhe Sathi at > the sametime, and hence care has to be taken while matching this particular > feature. Your emphasis that the Vimshothari dasha should be considered, is > also a valid point. Roughly how many Sadhe sathis both of them will undergo > may be calculated, and also the dasha running at those times should be taken > into consideration. > > Regards, > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > vvootla [vvootla@g...] > Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:59 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: Marital Matching - Same Nakshatra/Pada > > > > Namaste Satya gAru, > > Is Sade-Sati saturn transit w.r.t Chandra lagna? I understood it > as transit of Saturn over 12th, 1st and 2nd houses( w.r.t Lagna) of > Rasi or Bhava chart. Even so, if Saturn is a yOga karaka for one or > both of the groom and bride then is it allowed? I did come across a > reasoning that same Nakshatra/Pada can result in some dasa sandhi > (in Vimsottari of Moon). But this depends on the age difference > between groom and bride. Moreover, dasa sandhi can happen with other > Nakshatras too and also if that is the reason the correct method is > to evaluate Vimsottari Dasas and look for malefic dasa sandhi > periods, instead of an indirect avoid sama Nakshatra/Pada rule. > > regards > -Prasad > > vedic astrology, "Satya S Kolachina" > <skolachi@h...> wrote: > > I can say one reason for this. If the bride and the groom are born > in same > > nakshathra, then they both will encounter the Sadhe Sathi (7.5 > years of > > Saturn transit) at the same time. If they are born in same > nakshathra, then > > their Sadhe sathi periods are different, and if the period of one > person is > > adverse, atleast the period of the other will balance out. If both > of them > > have the adverse period at the same time, then imagine how hard > for them to > > pass 7.5 years of testing period. > > > > The situation will be more intense if they are born in the same > pada of the > > same nakshathra, because Sadhe sathi is typically the time > beginning when > > Saturn enters 45 degrees prior to Moon's longitude and ends when > Saturn > > transits to 45 degrees after Moon's longitude. > > > > There may be other reasons too. But this is a certain reason. > > > > Regards, > > Satya Sai Kolachina > > > > > > > > vvootla [vvootla@g...] > > Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:50 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Marital Matching - Same Nakshatra/Pada > > > > > > > > Namaste members, > > > > Why are the same Nakshatra/Pada not recommended for marital > > matching of bride and groom? Some apply this rule for any > > Nakshatra/Pada and others give only a subset of Nakshatras for > which > > this rule applies. What is the source (book and rishi/guru) for > this > > rule? > > > > thanks and rgds > > -Prasad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ...... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > Links > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ...... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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