To Kartik< Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa(Re:Accidentschematic)

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Dear Sharmaji,

Very good Jaimini analysis too. Thanks.

My question was not concerned with contradiction of Rasi and Navamsa. Suppose we

have one set of Rasi and Navamsa. It may give us 3 Chaturvimsas (D-24). How to

interpret it differently ?

 

Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

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Sharma

vedic astrology

20, 03, 2005 1:47 AM

[vedic astrology] To Kartik< Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa(Re:Accidentschematic)

Two minute Jaimini analysis (I have to attend to other duties). Capricorn period

from 2001 April to 2005 April. Ninth house has a Jaimini rajayoga (PK/DK

together). This is the house of higher learning and travel. Synthesize with

what VD is promising you have the answer. Ak moon is in second and Amk venus is

in 4th house. Not bad at all. See Cap-Virgo from 2002 April to 2002 August.

Again 9th house is activated from Chara Dasha. Foreign travel and Good luck.(I

have not used any Arudha lagnas yet! I do know them -An Andhra astrologet

taught me). Praveen:I am not sure what your question meant. Let me interpret it

this way. Are you asking what if Rasi-Navamsa contradict each other? Great

question. Then I would stick with Rasi chart and do a nakshatra based analysis

of the planets in Rasi. This is an opinion. I have not tested on lots of

horoscopes. One example: Rasi will promise/indicate divorce, where as navamsa

will show Jupiter's aspect on 7th house. Generally such cases -lot of fights,

no divorce. There are and could be exceptions. This is a question we should

research on and test on lots of horocopes or ask the opinion of learned

members.Sharmavedic astrology, Praveen Kumar

<chunnu2001@v...> wrote:> Brilliant Mr. Sharma. You seem to follow the lines

drawn by Shri K.N.Rao. It works well. Sat is PK with 7 karaka scheme. Give your

Jaimini analysis also. > Now one question. What to conclude when indication by

Rasi and Navamsa are not confirmed in D-chart. Please give your opinion. > >

Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) > - > Sharma >

vedic astrology > 19, 03, 2005 8:45 PM> Subject:

[vedic astrology] To Kartik< Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa (Re:Accident

schematic)> > > > Mr. Kartik> Here's my analysis.> The whole point of

this excercise was to see the D1 and other > Divisional chart promise

(According to Mr. Karthik). I will take the > natives Rasi/Navamsa first.>

Sat-Moon from 2001 Sept to 2003 May. Fifth house indications. Saturn > MD

lord is in 12th house, also happens to be fifth lord for this > libra lagna

native. Tenth lord in fifth is very good for studies. > But see what MD lord

is promising - 12th house. And he is doing > higher studies in US. Navams

lagna is capricorn, In Navamsa Moon is > exlated-hence he will do very well

in his studies (and alos > fourth/kendra compared to Rasi chart). See the

nakshatra of moon -> poorvabhadra ruled by jupiter and this jupiter is in

12th house. > Jupiter as lord of 3/6 will give some competitive spirit, hard

work. > So bottom line from only Rasi/Navamsa: Education in a foreign >

country with lot of hard work, competition and eventually leading to >

distinction. He must have come to US with Assistanship (please > confirm yes

or no).> > > Let's see D24 (Chaturvimsamsa) for higher learning. Lagna is

Taurus, > Saturn (4/5 lord of rasi) is in 11th house of gains, aspecting

fifth > house. Even D24 fifth lord-Mer is well placed. So overall it is a >

very good period for education. Remember it is already confirmed by >

Rasi/Navamsa chart.> > Take 18:09:40 as birth time (according to Shri

Narasimhas's > software, the cool feature I like). Lagna moves to Aries. And

it is > picture of educational set back, or at best poor performance. This >

contradicts our Rasi/Navams analysis.> > So let me summarize: Rasi/Navamsa is

promising a good period -> educationally. D24 Lagna will change within 3

minutes. If it is > 18:09 it is bad period for education (contrary to

Rasi/Navamsa). If > it is 18:12, it is good period (confirmning Rasi/Navamsa

promise).> > Bottom line: pick Rasi/Navamsa analysis and predict good period.

> Ignore D24, if you give Rasi/Navamsa 3 points of importance each, > give

D24 1 point of importance only> > Hope this is the kind of analysis that you

had hoped for Mr. Kartik> PS: For lack of time I have not done, Jaimini

analysis. Saturn is PK > in Jaimini. > > Sharma > > --- In

vedic astrology, "amoebabhu" <amoebabhu> > wrote:> > >

> Dear Praveenji,> > I have tried to answer your questions in detail as

follows > > (please tell me as to how you come to your conclusions as I am >

> strongly interested in understanding predictive astrology) :> > The native

is male.> > 1.) TOB : 18:12 (hospital records), DOB : 04/30/1981> > 2.)

Margin of error : +/- 6 minutes> > 3.) Nature : Fair minded, balanced, lazy,

changing interests> > Physical features : 6ft, athletic build.> > 4.)

Education : Engineering (07/1998-05/2002)> > Masters

(2002/08- present) with fellowship > (changed > > to science instead of

engineering)> > Moved to the US in the 1st week of 08/02.>

> 5.) Parents Profession : Father (High position Engineer/Manager > in > >

Defense), Mother (Housewife & does social service, highly > respected).> >

6.) Parents Health : Father is diabetic (some health problems for > > about a

year since Jan 2004)> > Please let me know if more details are required.> >

Regards,> > Kartik> > > > > > vedic astrology,

Praveen Kumar > > <chunnu2001@v...> wrote:> > > Please give following

details:> > > 1) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital >

record, > > rectified etc.> > > 2) Margin of error possible.> > > 3) Some

past trends / facts / events, may be other than you want > > to ask about. You

may write about your nature, education, > > profession, marriage / spouse if

married / relationship, good / > bad > > periods of past, parents'

profession / status, health etc.> > > > > > I expect at least the sex of

the native. However, with given > data, > > 5th house is activated. Hence,

it may not be good for children / > > studies etc. Now, the native being just

20 then, we conclude that > > the period was not good for studies. This is

mainly from Rasi > chart. > > If the native is a female, the other

possibility is involvement in > a > > typical love affair wherein issues

related with pregnancy are also > > involved. This is my impression,

prima-facie.> > > > > > Praveen Kumar (Mumbai) > > > > > > -----

Original Message ----- > > > amoebabhu > > > To:

vedic astrology > > > 19, 03, 2005 8:59 AM> > >

[vedic astrology] Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa (Re: > > Accident

schematic)> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Panditji,> > >

That was a lot of food for thought, I havent > considered > > it > > >

that way and does open an interesting line of thinking (in my > > mind > >

> at least). For further clarification Panditji I would like > your > > >

opinion on an example in which the divisional charts and the > > natal > >

> chart showed conflicting results (in my humble opinion) in two > > time >

> > periods and I wanted to know as to what your opinion would be > > >

(essentially as to how you would interpret this). The example > > is :> > >

DOB : 04/30/1981 > > > Time : 18:12 +/- 6 mins (100%) (I have fixed a

time of birth > > but > > > then I am not sure about this, if required I

will e-mail you > the > > > details of some incidents to fix the time of

birth)> > > Place : Hyderabad, India> > > The times I am talking about

are 07/30/2001-2003.> > > and also the native is expecting some results

(good/bad) in > the > > next > > > couple of months and according to me

the divisional charts > > showed > > > different results from the natal

chart ( I might be completely > > > wrong).> > > Please do not consider

this as a test, this purely for my > > > understanding and I would

appreciate it if you would show me > as > > to > > > how you would

decipher this.> > > Regards,> > > Kartik> > > > > > > > > ---

In vedic astrology, Panditji > > <navagraha@g...> > > >

wrote:> > > > namaste,> > > > > > > > Someone just sent me this. I

am posting it here. The > gentleman > > who> > > > posted this is

vijaydas_pradeep. I have not asked his > > permission to> > > > post it

here but I thought this is in context with various > > > divisional> > >

> and other techniques we are debating. My apologies to Mr. > > pradeep > >

> if I> > > > am taking too many liberties here.> > > > > > > >

---> > > > This mail only address my concerns regarding technical >

points. > > > > I think we are missing the essence. Techniques that ease

our > > > > calculation are a boon. No one disagrees. For that reason we >

> use > > > > software. But Jyotish is not about technical sophistication.

> > > > > > > > When we have a door and steps to enter a house why

should we > > use > > > our> > > > acrobatic skills and climb through

the sewage pipe, at the > > building> > > > rear? After knowing the basics

(purpose of door and steps) > one > > can > > > > try climbing through

sewage for a change.> > > > > > > > But what is happening. One is not

aware of the basics and > goes > > > > directly to sewage pipe. Many go

directly to dashamsha > > whenever > > > > professional matters are to be

ascertained, even without > > knowing > > > how > > > > dashamsha is

derived. Many believe dashamsha as a division > of > > the > > > > 10th

house & Navamsha as a division of the 9th house. I got > > > private > > >

> mails. This is certainly a bad trend.> > > > > > > > It is true that

dash ''amsha'' is for professional matters, > > but > > > > there is no

classical reference sanctioning the usage of it > as > > a > > > >

chart. Moreover astronomically it is impossible. As per Shri > > > >

Narasimha sage has not even given the amsha tattwas - just > the > > >

lords > > > > alone!!! - How can we find AL, 9TH from it,Artha trikonas >

etc > > in > > > > divisionals, when considering it as a chart itself is >

against > > > > rules?. > > > > > > > > If we start stretching our

legs before we sit, we will fall.> > > > Unfortunately some techniques are

taking one away from > basics. > > If > > > we > > > > have a good

foundation, any number of floors can be erected > on > > > top. > > >

> If our basement is weak, irrespective of how many techniques > > we > > >

> have, the structures can only collapse. One can keep and > open > > mind

> > > > and pick the good from all sources. It is not necessary to > >

accept > > > > all from one place and leave the rest. I can learn from you

> > and > > > vice > > > > versa may be one of the best approaches.

Please see this in > > the > > > > right spirit. I respect knowledge from

all,but do not accept > > > > anything blindly.> > > > > > > >

Thanks> > > > Pradeep> > > > -----> > > > > > > > > > > >

On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:04:24 -0500, Panditji > <navagraha@g...> > > >

wrote:> > > > > Namaste Kartik,> > > > > > > > > > Excellent

question. Everything is derived from rashi and > it > > > trumps all> >

> > > the charts. I do look at the divisional lagna and planets > in > >

it > > > or the> > > > > 1-7 axis of the divisional chart.But I do not

go jumping > to > > > divisional> > > > > and use it as a chart with

houses. I can not say parashara > > said > > > to use> > > > > it as

a separate chart. ( I do not want to get into > pedantic > > > argument>

> > > > about it, I have not seen evidence that parashar said to > use> >

> > > divisional as a separate chart) Also the divisional > > influence is >

> > a> > > > > Tertiary influence and NOT the primary one. So divisional

> 1-> > 7 > > > axis is> > > > > to be used to look for tertiary

facors. If the primary > > factors > > > are> > > > > adverse, I

don't care how strong a divisional chart is it > is > > not > > >

going> > > > > to give great results.Yes if a graha is debilited in rashi >

> but > > > exalted> > > > > in navansh then his strength is improved

and it is one of > the> > > > > strengths ( not THE strength).> > > >

> > > > > > Now about twins, every one talks about it in connection >

with> > > > > divisionals. As for me I treat twins as an exception and >

do > > not > > > go> > > > > formulating rules for exceptions, thats

a dangerous habit. > I > > am > > > happy> > > > > if I can make

good predictions in 75 percent of the cases. > > Also > > > I have> > >

> > seen that navansha lagna if it changes can make facial > > features> >

> > > different in twins. Anyway people say there are 100s or > > 1000s of>

> > > > people born on the same day and time and place. This is a > > >

conjecture,> > > > > go and find hospital records and show me statistical >

record > > of > > > how> > > > > many births tooks place at the same

place and same time.> > > > > > > > > > Talking about Parashar. He has

given avataars ..he says > Moon > > is> > > > > Krishna, Sun is

Ram..and Budh is Budhha. So is this the > > parashar > > > who> > > >

> was son of vyas ? He did not say future avataar of budhh, > so > > that>

> > > > shloka could mean that this was written at a much later > date > >

or > > > it was> > > > > added to the original text at a later date.He

never > mentions > > > about> > > > > kalaki avataar. There is a

classic , I forget the name,( > > Hart > > > Defaw> > > > > mentionsi

t).It is written in this classic "When budh is > in > > > quadrant> > >

> > from Sun.." Now we know thats anastronomical > immpossibility.> > > >

> > > > > > Anyway the point is one has to be careful in deciphering > >

what > > > was said> > > > > in ancient texts. There are controversies

in many areas of > > > jyotish and> > > > > in interpretation of

classics. My point is to use methods > > that > > > have> > > > >

been tested on many many horoscopes. I will be really > > surprised > > >

that> > > > > people have calculated so many divisional charts in the > >

past. > > > May be> > > > > for well to do who could pay money to have

these elaborate > > > charts made> > > > > precomputer era. For most

the charts were done Lagna > rashi, > > Moon> > > > > rashi, and

navansh( Even this was added only if a client > > > insisted). In> > >

> > the north or may be south it was customary. it is not so > in > > the>

> > > > western part of India.> > > > > > > > > > Anyway> > > > >

> > > > > ...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005

02:22:59 -0000, amoebabhu > > <amoebabhu> > > > wrote:> > > > >

>> > > > > > Dear Panditji,> > > > > > I have a question (and

I do not believe in > > > personalized> > > > > > arguements so nothing

in what I will say will have any > > personal> > > > > > connotations).

If we were to focus on rashi charts and > not > > > give much> > > >

> > of consideration to divisionals, then would it not be > true > > >

that a> > > > > > large number of people (a relative terminology) would >

end > > up > > > with> > > > > > the same horoscope and one might be a

king and the other > a > > > pauper (> > > > > > a theoretical

comparison).Also what about twins?> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >

Kartik> > > > > >> > > > > > vedic astrology,

Panditji > > > <navagraha@g...>> > > > > >> > > > > > wrote:> > >

> > > > Namaste Narayan,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Looks like you are

taking sides to defend something > that > > has > > > not> > > > >

> been> > > > > > > attacked. I know what parashara said in BPHS. He > >

mentioned > > > about> > > > > > > divisions and if you say it was in

vogue since the day > > of > > > parashar> > > > > > you> > > > >

> > must be really looooong in tooth. You are talking as > if > > you > >

> just> > > > > > had a> > > > > > > conversation with him. I stand

by my statement that > > > divisional> > > > > > came in> > > > > >

> vogue after the advent of computers and now even a > > novice > > > with

one> > > > > > day> > > > > > > of training or less can put them up and

can write off > > pages > > > about> > > > > > > which planet is

where in which varga and from what > rashi > > > dasha he> > > > > >

is> > > > > > > in what house. Whether there are houses in divisional > >

charts > > > is a> > > > > > > debate in itself. I do not know sanjay

rath and my > > intention > > > was> > > > > > not> > > > > > >

to question his teachings or his grand fathers', as I > do > > not > > >

know> > > > > > his> > > > > > > teachings. What I commented is based

on what I have > seen > > a > > > few on> > > > > > the> > > >

> > > list who say they are beginners just go on and on > about > > >

divisionals> > > > > > > and dashas in divisionals as if there was no

tomorrow. > I > > put > > > out my> > > > > > > opinion for others

to read, they can make their own > > > judgements> > > > > > about> >

> > > > > whatever technique they want to use. If you want to > use > > 5

> > > kinds of> > > > > > > dashas and 5 kinds of lagnas to arrive at a

correct > > > prediction, all> > > > > > > the power to you. I am

presenting what I feel is a > > approach > > > that> > > > > > has>

> > > > > > worked for me. Let others be judge of those methods. I > > am

not> > > > > > forcing> > > > > > > any technique down anyone's throat.

I do have an > opinion > > and > > > an> > > > > > > methodology(

Which is not invented by me, but has been > > > taught by> > > > > >

great> > > > > > > astrologers like KN RAo, Nandan Chirmulay, BV > >

Raman..etc.), > > > why> > > > > > should> > > > > > > you or

anyone feel threatened by it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > People ask

questions on this list and if I have time > and> > > > > > inclination I>

> > > > > > answer to the best of my ability. While doing so, I > feel >

> I > > > have to> > > > > > put> > > > > > > my opinions out there

for people on the list to read. > I > > have > > > not> > > > > > >

criticized any astrologer on the list, thats not my > > style. > > > But

if I> > > > > > > have differences of opinion with a methodology I voice >

> my > > > opinion.> > > > > > Let> > > > > > > the members of the

list decide what they want to use. > > Your > > > methods> > > > > >

may> > > > > > > be good for you, why are you threatened if someone >

puts > > out > > > there> > > > > > > views on the subject.> > >

> > > >> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ...> > >

> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:15:35 -0000,

naaraayana_iyer> > > > > > > <narayan.iyer@g...> wrote:> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > Namaste Panditji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

Panditji <navagraha@g...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > These principles are a work in progress. It would > >

> surprise me> > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > they have been tested on

tons of charts.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > As with any field of

knowledge, there are always > > > principles,> > > > > > idioms,> > >

> > > > > patterns, which will be formed and would be > subjected > > to>

> > > > > testing! On> > > > > > > > what basis did you jump to

conclusion that these > > > principles have> > > > > > not> > > > >

> > > been tested adequately?? It could be entirely > probable > > that> >

> > > > these> > > > > > > > principles are a "work in progress", for that

matter > no> > > > > > principles> > > > > > > > work 100% and

research is required! It could also be > > > entirely> > > > > > > >

probable that the chart could need some > rectification. > > One> > > >

> > should> > > > > > > > have an open mind. For that matter, even your >

> principles > > > are> > > > > > > > subjected to testing and cannot

be relied upon! If > > thats > > > the> > > > > > matter,> > > >

> > > > then you would be an "Expert/Rishi"> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > To begin with the divisionals came> > > > > > > > >

into vogue after the advent of computer programs > > which > > > made>

> > > > > > > > calculation of them fast. In the precomputer > days,by >

> the > > > time> > > > > > one> > > > > > > > > calculated all

these accurately and verified, the > > jatak > > > would> > > > > >

have> > > > > > > > > been long gone. So this phenomenon is from the >

past > > few > > > years> > > > > > and I> > > > > > > > > don't

see evidence of its unversal applicability > or > > even> > > > > > > >

> applicability> > > > > > > > > in 75 percent of the cases. I am sure there

will > be > > one > > > or two> > > > > > > > charts> > > > > >

> > > where it will fit perfectly. But as they say here > in > > the > >

> great> > > > > > cold> > > > > > > > > north, "One Robin does not

make a spring".> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > For your esteemed

information, Divisionals were in > > vogue > > > since> > > > > >

the> > > > > > > > days of Parasara, infact, right at the start, he > >

defined > > > and> > > > > > gave> > > > > > > > meaninings to all

divisionals upto D-60 or > Shastiamsa! > > Are > > > you> > > > > >

> > saying that Maharishis defined it and talked about > it > > so > > >

that we> > > > > > can> > > > > > > > pass our idle time or do you think

they had nothing > > better > > > to> > > > > > do???> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Even in the past, AStrologers have gone into the > >

depths of> > > > > > > > calculation, for example Pt Jagannath Rath, > >

grandfather of > > > Pt> > > > > > Sanjay> > > > > > > > Rath, used

to MANUALLY calculate all divisions, > > and ... you> > > > > > would be>

> > > > > > > surprised, dasas upto deha level, which is the 6 > > levels >

> > deep!> > > > > > > > Ofcourse, these calculations consume a lot of

time, > > and > > > hence,> > > > > > they> > > > > > > > would

limit themselves to a couple of charts. Most > of > > the > > > times,>

> > > > > > > these charts are prepared in advance.> > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > Ofcourse, there are Astrologers who would restrict > > >

themselves to> > > > > > > > Rasi & Navamsa and make accurate predictions,

and > they > > do > > > rely a> > > > > > lot> > > > > > > > on

their intuition. If we restrict ourselves to Rasi > & > > > Navamsa,> >

> > > > we> > > > > > > > better hope and pray for good solid intuition!

Oh > > yes ... > > > by the> > > > > > > > way ... even those who

restrict themselves to Rasi & > > > Navamsa,> > > > > > > > flexibly

twist their principles to suit the results, > > if not> > > > > > lagna,>

> > > > > > > then chandra lagna ... so on and so forth!> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > Point is ... serious minded & honest research is > >

required > > > to> > > > > > come up> > > > > > > > with principles

and then these should be tested > > > thoroughly. SJC> > > > > > is> >

> > > > > > in the process of doing it ... although there is no > > formal>

> > > > > process> > > > > > > > for it. We will be taking this matter

seriously in > the > > > coming> > > > > > years!> > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > Another point, Pt Sanjay Rath doesn't like to spoon > > >

feed ... he> > > > > > > > likes/expects his student to think thoroughly,

to > whet > > > their> > > > > > > > intelligence! Nothing comes easy

.... Adversity > breeds > > > CHARACTER!> > > > > > > >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > New parameters are introduced to

fit the event > which > > is> > > > > > already> > > > > > > >

known.> > > > > > > > > On this list some time back one had an example of >

> > father's> > > > > > death.> > > > > > > > For> > > > > > > >

> that they used 7th from 9th from sun in > > dwadashansha. Now> > > > > >

why ? Why> > > > > > > > > not 7th from 9th from ravi in rashi chart ?Then >

why > > not > > > 2nd> > > > > > from> > > > > > > > 9th> > >

> > > > > > from ravi. Then one can use arudh lagna of d-12 if > > one > >

> does> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > find> > > > > > > > > it

there , then aurdh of 9th in rashi then arudh > of > > 9th > > > in D->

> > > > > 12. It> > > > > > > > > can get confusing very fast.This way

one can cover > > all 12> > > > > > rashis> > > > > > > > and I> >

> > > > > > > am sure the graha whose dasha you are running at > the > >

> time of> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > known> > > > > > > > >

event will be there in one of those.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am

sure, not even Maharishi Jaimini was spoonfed!! > > He > > > too must> >

> > > > > > have exprimented, just like Pt. Sanjay Rath, KN Rao > > and >

> > come up> > > > > > with> > > > > > > > idioms & principles. And

as I said before, I am not > > sure, > > > if> > > > > > even> > >

> > > > > you have a fool-proof methodology of predicting > > events, > > >

without> > > > > > > > beating around the bush!> > > > > > > >> > >

> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My point is ,test priciples

on charts you have and > > > develop a> > > > > > > > > consistent

principle applicable to atleast 75 > percent> > > > > > cases.Then> > >

> > > > > make> > > > > > > > > it a principle. Do not make rules as you

go based > on > > the > > > chart> > > > > > you> > > > > > > >

> have in front of you.BTW there are principles that > > have > > > been>

> > > > > > > developed> > > > > > > > > by peope like KN Rao, BV Raman,

master those > first. > > > Trust me> > > > > > they> > > > > > >

> work> > > > > > > > > in majority of cases> > > > > > > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > Principles, should especially be tested on the basis

> of> > > > > > probability,> > > > > > > > like Narasimha said, if

the likelihood of an event > > > happening is> > > > > > high> > >

> > > > > and if you give a numerous paramters explaining the > > event, >

> > these> > > > > > > > principles are not probabalistically valid,

although > > they > > > may be> > > > > > > > statistacally valid!!>

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Like explaining, the chara dasa aspecting

chara > > Bhratri > > > Karak> > > > > > caused> > > > > > > >

birth of siblings!! I consider that an incomplete > and > > a > > >

totally> > > > > > > > inadequate research!> > > > > > > >> > > > >

> > > Warm Regards> > > > > > > > Narayan> > > > > > > >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 18

Mar 2005 15:02:57 -0000, mikefranc01> > > > > > <mtravass@t...>> > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

Hi Narasimha,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I applied the same

logic in my chart and it > shows > > > something> > > > > > else.>

> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > The time when my car was almost

totaled (March > > 1993,) > > > I was> > > > > > > > running> > >

> > > > > > > Cn-Li Narayana dasa of D16, 4th from A4.> > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > The second time I met with an accident was in > Dec > >

1996 > > > and I> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > running Aq-Li

Narayana dasa of D16.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Both the

accidents took place in zone 4:00:00 > > (East of > > > GMT).> > > >

> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I cannot apply any of the principles that

you > > stated > > > in your> > > > > > > > email> > > > > > > >

> > unless there are others, which can be applied, > and > > you > > >

did> > > > > > not> > > > > > > > state.> > > > > > > > > >> > >

> > > > > > > Could you assist here?> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > Mike> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > November

14, 1963> > > > > > > > > > Time: 14:03:00> > > > > > > > > >

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > > > > Place: 73 E

55' 00", 15 N 18' 00"> > > > > > > > > > Margao, Goa,

India> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > vedic->

astrology, "Narasimha > > > P.V.R.> > > > > > Rao"> >

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > <pvr@c...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >

> > -> > > > > > > > > > > Narasimha

P.V.R. Rao> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:53 PM> > > > > > > > > > >

Shodasamsa Narayana dasa (Re: > Accident > > > schematic)> > >

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay

Prabhakaran,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > D16 is the

chart for all Sukha and Hence > Cars > > come > > > under> > > > >

> > > this.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Here is some

jist for analysing all yogas> > > > > > (combinations) in> > > > > > >

> D16> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. A4 is to be

considered for Cars. Here > A4 > > > should be> > > > > > > > taken

in> > > > > > > > > > D16.> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. 6th and 8th house

cause worries and > > anxieties> > > > > > > > respectively,> > > > >

> > > > > in D16 they> > > > > > > > > > > > will show for matters

related to cars > and > > > other> > > > > > sukha.> > > > > > >

> > > > > 3. Marakas to sign of A4 will destroy the > car.> > > > > > >

> > > > > Marakas primarily being 2nd and 7th.> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > Now for Dasas which will activate the Yoga's > > >

mentioned> > > > > > above.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

> Add badhaka sthana in shodasamsa also as a > > potential> > > > > >

problem> > > > > > > > sign.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > My birthdata is: 4th April 1970, 5:47:13 pm > > (IST),> > > > > > > >

Machilipatnam,> > > > > > > > > > India> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >

> > > > > > > I had a vehicular accident on 5th December > 1996 > > at >

> > 6:30 pm> > > > > > > > (EST),> > > > > > > > > > Wilmington, MA.

I was not hurt, but the car > > > was "totalled".> > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > As per D-16 Narayana dasa, this happened in Li-> Ta>

> > > > > antardasa.> > > > > > > > In my> > > > > > > > > > D-16, Ta

is the badhaka sthana and contains > > 3rd/12th > > > lord> > > > > >

> > Mercury and> > > > > > > > > > nodes. It is the 12th house from A4,

showing the > > loss > > > of a> > > > > > > > vehicle.> > > > >

> > > > > It is also the 8th house from the 4th house, > > showing> > > >

> > problems in> > > > > > > > > > sukha.> > > > > > > > > > >> > >

> > > > > > > > Those who are into the three parts of rule of > > >

Narayana> > > > > > dasa> > > > > > > > > > interpretation can test

that too. Mahadasa sign > Li > > is a> > > > > > > > seershodaya> > >

> > > > > > > rasi. So it gives its results in the first one-> > third. >

> > Its> > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > > > >

is also in a seershodaya rasi (Le). So he gives > > his > > > results>

> > > > > in> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > second one-third.

The last one-third gives the > > results > > > of> > > > > > > >

occupants> > > > > > > > > > and aspectors. There are four candidates and >

they > > are > > > Venus,> > > > > > > > Rahu,> > > > > > > > >

> Ketu and Mercury in the order of longitudes. We > > divide > > > the>

> > > > > last> > > > > > > > one-> > > > > > > > > > third of the

dasa into 4 equal parts and give > them > > to > > > these> > > > >

> 4> > > > > > > > planets> > > > > > > > > > in this order. The result

of Rahu's aspect on > > mahadasa > > > sign> > > > > > is> > > >

> > > > given> > > > > > > > > > in Oct 1996-Aug 1997. Rahu is the 8th

lord, > > occupies > > > badhaka> > > > > > > > sthana> > > > > >

> > > > and aspects the 4th house of vehicles Libra. So > > the > > >

sub-> > > > > > period> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > >

question resulted in vehicle problems. Not only > > did I > > > have> >

> > > > an> > > > > > > > > > accident in Dec 1996, but the new car I

bought > in > > Jan > > > 1997> > > > > > > > suffered> > > > >

> > > > > too. It was hit by people twice when it was > parked > > in a> >

> > > > parking> > > > > > > > lot.> > > > > > > > > > I did not see

who hit it, but someone hit it > > twice. > > > After> > > > > >

these> > > > > > > > > > repeated incidents, I sold that "unlucky" car >

and > > > bought> > > > > > another> > > > > > > > new> > > > >

> > > > > car in Sept 1997. All these are due to the sub-> > period > > >

giving> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > results of Rahu's aspect on

Li. It so happened > > that the> > > > > > > > antardasa was> > > > >

> > > > > also of Ta, which contains Rahu.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > >

> > > > > > As per Vimsottari dasa also, it was Mercury-> Ketu > > >

antardasa.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > In my annual Tithi

Pravesha chart of 1996-97, > D-> > 16 > > > had Leo> > > > > > > >

rising,> > > > > > > > > > lagna lord Sun in 6h (!!) with 6th lord Saturn,

> > Rahu > > > and> > > > > > Ketu.> > > > > > > > Saturn-> > >

> > > > > > > Saturn antardasa as per annual Tithi Ashtottari > > dasa > >

> was> > > > > > running> > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > >

Dec 3 to Dec 6. Accident was on Dec 5!> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > > > The technique of Tithi Pravesha never seizes > to > > > amaze

me!> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine

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