To Kartik< Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa (Accident schematic)

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Dear Mr.Sharmaji,

Thanks for your analysis it was very educational. If I got

your point right the essential key seems to be to give a heigher

weightage on what the Rasi/Navamsa are suggesting (for example you

consider Saturn as the 4th/5th lord even in the Siddhamsa).Though I

did interpret it differently by taking the parivartana between Ju/Sa

in the Siddhamsa, which explained the lack of Sa/Su opposition (in

the siddhamsa)to me but,again that was a very good analysis.

Regards,

Kartik

p.s. I agree with you that Narasimhaji's software is excellent!

 

vedic astrology, "Sharma" <nakshatras@g...>

wrote:

>

> Mr. Kartik

> Here's my analysis.

> The whole point of this excercise was to see the D1 and other

> Divisional chart promise (According to Mr. Karthik). I will take

the

> natives Rasi/Navamsa first.

> Sat-Moon from 2001 Sept to 2003 May. Fifth house indications.

Saturn

> MD lord is in 12th house, also happens to be fifth lord for this

> libra lagna native. Tenth lord in fifth is very good for studies.

> But see what MD lord is promising - 12th house. And he is doing

> higher studies in US. Navams lagna is capricorn, In Navamsa Moon

is

> exlated-hence he will do very well in his studies (and alos

> fourth/kendra compared to Rasi chart). See the nakshatra of moon -

> poorvabhadra ruled by jupiter and this jupiter is in 12th house.

> Jupiter as lord of 3/6 will give some competitive spirit, hard

work.

> So bottom line from only Rasi/Navamsa: Education in a foreign

> country with lot of hard work, competition and eventually leading

to

> distinction. He must have come to US with Assistanship (please

> confirm yes or no).

>

>

> Let's see D24 (Chaturvimsamsa) for higher learning. Lagna is

Taurus,

> Saturn (4/5 lord of rasi) is in 11th house of gains, aspecting

fifth

> house. Even D24 fifth lord-Mer is well placed. So overall it is a

> very good period for education. Remember it is already confirmed

by

> Rasi/Navamsa chart.

>

> Take 18:09:40 as birth time (according to Shri Narasimhas's

> software, the cool feature I like). Lagna moves to Aries. And it

is

> picture of educational set back, or at best poor performance. This

> contradicts our Rasi/Navams analysis.

>

> So let me summarize: Rasi/Navamsa is promising a good period -

> educationally. D24 Lagna will change within 3 minutes. If it is

> 18:09 it is bad period for education (contrary to Rasi/Navamsa).

If

> it is 18:12, it is good period (confirmning Rasi/Navamsa promise).

>

> Bottom line: pick Rasi/Navamsa analysis and predict good period.

> Ignore D24, if you give Rasi/Navamsa 3 points of importance each,

> give D24 1 point of importance only

>

> Hope this is the kind of analysis that you had hoped for Mr. Kartik

> PS: For lack of time I have not done, Jaimini analysis. Saturn is

PK

> in Jaimini.

>

> Sharma

>

> vedic astrology, "amoebabhu"

<amoebabhu>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Praveenji,

> > I have tried to answer your questions in detail as follows

> > (please tell me as to how you come to your conclusions as I am

> > strongly interested in understanding predictive astrology) :

> > The native is male.

> > 1.) TOB : 18:12 (hospital records), DOB : 04/30/1981

> > 2.) Margin of error : +/- 6 minutes

> > 3.) Nature : Fair minded, balanced, lazy, changing interests

> > Physical features : 6ft, athletic build.

> > 4.) Education : Engineering (07/1998-05/2002)

> > Masters (2002/08- present) with fellowship

> (changed

> > to science instead of engineering)

> > Moved to the US in the 1st week of 08/02.

> > 5.) Parents Profession : Father (High position Engineer/Manager

> in

> > Defense), Mother (Housewife & does social service, highly

> respected).

> > 6.) Parents Health : Father is diabetic (some health problems

for

> > about a year since Jan 2004)

> > Please let me know if more details are required.

> > Regards,

> > Kartik

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Praveen Kumar

> > <chunnu2001@v...> wrote:

> > > Please give following details:

> > > 1) Source of TOB, that is recorded meticulously, hospital

> record,

> > rectified etc.

> > > 2) Margin of error possible.

> > > 3) Some past trends / facts / events, may be other than you

want

> > to ask about. You may write about your nature, education,

> > profession, marriage / spouse if married / relationship, good /

> bad

> > periods of past, parents' profession / status, health etc.

> > >

> > > I expect at least the sex of the native. However, with given

> data,

> > 5th house is activated. Hence, it may not be good for children /

> > studies etc. Now, the native being just 20 then, we conclude

that

> > the period was not good for studies. This is mainly from Rasi

> chart.

> > If the native is a female, the other possibility is involvement

in

> a

> > typical love affair wherein issues related with pregnancy are

also

> > involved. This is my impression, prima-facie.

> > >

> > > Praveen Kumar (Mumbai)

> > >

> > > -

> > > amoebabhu

> > > vedic astrology

> > > 19, 03, 2005 8:59 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Fw: Shodasamsa Narayana dasa (Re:

> > Accident schematic)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Panditji,

> > > That was a lot of food for thought, I havent

> considered

> > it

> > > that way and does open an interesting line of thinking (in

my

> > mind

> > > at least). For further clarification Panditji I would like

> your

> > > opinion on an example in which the divisional charts and the

> > natal

> > > chart showed conflicting results (in my humble opinion) in

two

> > time

> > > periods and I wanted to know as to what your opinion would

be

> > > (essentially as to how you would interpret this). The

example

> > is :

> > > DOB : 04/30/1981

> > > Time : 18:12 +/- 6 mins (100%) (I have fixed a time of

birth

> > but

> > > then I am not sure about this, if required I will e-mail you

> the

> > > details of some incidents to fix the time of birth)

> > > Place : Hyderabad, India

> > > The times I am talking about are 07/30/2001-2003.

> > > and also the native is expecting some results (good/bad) in

> the

> > next

> > > couple of months and according to me the divisional charts

> > showed

> > > different results from the natal chart ( I might be

completely

> > > wrong).

> > > Please do not consider this as a test, this purely for my

> > > understanding and I would appreciate it if you would show me

> as

> > to

> > > how you would decipher this.

> > > Regards,

> > > Kartik

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, Panditji

> > <navagraha@g...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > namaste,

> > > >

> > > > Someone just sent me this. I am posting it here. The

> gentleman

> > who

> > > > posted this is vijaydas_pradeep. I have not asked his

> > permission to

> > > > post it here but I thought this is in context with various

> > > divisional

> > > > and other techniques we are debating. My apologies to Mr.

> > pradeep

> > > if I

> > > > am taking too many liberties here.

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > > This mail only address my concerns regarding technical

> points.

> > > > I think we are missing the essence. Techniques that ease

our

> > > > calculation are a boon. No one disagrees. For that reason

we

> > use

> > > > software. But Jyotish is not about technical

sophistication.

> > > >

> > > > When we have a door and steps to enter a house why should

we

> > use

> > > our

> > > > acrobatic skills and climb through the sewage pipe, at the

> > building

> > > > rear? After knowing the basics (purpose of door and steps)

> one

> > can

> > > > try climbing through sewage for a change.

> > > >

> > > > But what is happening. One is not aware of the basics and

> goes

> > > > directly to sewage pipe. Many go directly to dashamsha

> > whenever

> > > > professional matters are to be ascertained, even without

> > knowing

> > > how

> > > > dashamsha is derived. Many believe dashamsha as a division

> of

> > the

> > > > 10th house & Navamsha as a division of the 9th house. I

got

> > > private

> > > > mails. This is certainly a bad trend.

> > > >

> > > > It is true that dash ''amsha'' is for professional

matters,

> > but

> > > > there is no classical reference sanctioning the usage of

it

> as

> > a

> > > > chart. Moreover astronomically it is impossible. As per

Shri

> > > > Narasimha sage has not even given the amsha tattwas - just

> the

> > > lords

> > > > alone!!! - How can we find AL, 9TH from it,Artha trikonas

> etc

> > in

> > > > divisionals, when considering it as a chart itself is

> against

> > > > rules?.

> > > >

> > > > If we start stretching our legs before we sit, we will

fall.

> > > > Unfortunately some techniques are taking one away from

> basics.

> > If

> > > we

> > > > have a good foundation, any number of floors can be

erected

> on

> > > top.

> > > > If our basement is weak, irrespective of how many

techniques

> > we

> > > > have, the structures can only collapse. One can keep and

> open

> > mind

> > > > and pick the good from all sources. It is not necessary to

> > accept

> > > > all from one place and leave the rest. I can learn from

you

> > and

> > > vice

> > > > versa may be one of the best approaches. Please see this

in

> > the

> > > > right spirit. I respect knowledge from all,but do not

accept

> > > > anything blindly.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Pradeep

> > > > -----

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 22:04:24 -0500, Panditji

> <navagraha@g...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > Namaste Kartik,

> > > > >

> > > > > Excellent question. Everything is derived from rashi and

> it

> > > trumps all

> > > > > the charts. I do look at the divisional lagna and

planets

> in

> > it

> > > or the

> > > > > 1-7 axis of the divisional chart.But I do not go jumping

> to

> > > divisional

> > > > > and use it as a chart with houses. I can not say

parashara

> > said

> > > to use

> > > > > it as a separate chart. ( I do not want to get into

> pedantic

> > > argument

> > > > > about it, I have not seen evidence that parashar said to

> use

> > > > > divisional as a separate chart) Also the divisional

> > influence is

> > > a

> > > > > Tertiary influence and NOT the primary one. So

divisional

> 1-

> > 7

> > > axis is

> > > > > to be used to look for tertiary facors. If the primary

> > factors

> > > are

> > > > > adverse, I don't care how strong a divisional chart is

it

> is

> > not

> > > going

> > > > > to give great results.Yes if a graha is debilited in

rashi

> > but

> > > exalted

> > > > > in navansh then his strength is improved and it is one

of

> the

> > > > > strengths ( not THE strength).

> > > > >

> > > > > Now about twins, every one talks about it in connection

> with

> > > > > divisionals. As for me I treat twins as an exception and

> do

> > not

> > > go

> > > > > formulating rules for exceptions, thats a dangerous

habit.

> I

> > am

> > > happy

> > > > > if I can make good predictions in 75 percent of the

cases.

> > Also

> > > I have

> > > > > seen that navansha lagna if it changes can make facial

> > features

> > > > > different in twins. Anyway people say there are 100s or

> > 1000s of

> > > > > people born on the same day and time and place. This is

a

> > > conjecture,

> > > > > go and find hospital records and show me statistical

> record

> > of

> > > how

> > > > > many births tooks place at the same place and same time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Talking about Parashar. He has given avataars ..he says

> Moon

> > is

> > > > > Krishna, Sun is Ram..and Budh is Budhha. So is this the

> > parashar

> > > who

> > > > > was son of vyas ? He did not say future avataar of

budhh,

> so

> > that

> > > > > shloka could mean that this was written at a much later

> date

> > or

> > > it was

> > > > > added to the original text at a later date.He never

> mentions

> > > about

> > > > > kalaki avataar. There is a classic , I forget the name,(

> > Hart

> > > Defaw

> > > > > mentionsi t).It is written in this classic "When budh is

> in

> > > quadrant

> > > > > from Sun.." Now we know thats anastronomical

> immpossibility.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway the point is one has to be careful in deciphering

> > what

> > > was said

> > > > > in ancient texts. There are controversies in many areas

of

> > > jyotish and

> > > > > in interpretation of classics. My point is to use

methods

> > that

> > > have

> > > > > been tested on many many horoscopes. I will be really

> > surprised

> > > that

> > > > > people have calculated so many divisional charts in the

> > past.

> > > May be

> > > > > for well to do who could pay money to have these

elaborate

> > > charts made

> > > > > precomputer era. For most the charts were done Lagna

> rashi,

> > Moon

> > > > > rashi, and navansh( Even this was added only if a client

> > > insisted). In

> > > > > the north or may be south it was customary. it is not so

> in

> > the

> > > > > western part of India.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyway

> > > > >

> > > > > ...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 02:22:59 -0000, amoebabhu

> > <amoebabhu>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Panditji,

> > > > > > I have a question (and I do not believe in

> > > personalized

> > > > > > arguements so nothing in what I will say will have any

> > personal

> > > > > > connotations). If we were to focus on rashi charts and

> not

> > > give much

> > > > > > of consideration to divisionals, then would it not be

> true

> > > that a

> > > > > > large number of people (a relative terminology) would

> end

> > up

> > > with

> > > > > > the same horoscope and one might be a king and the

other

> a

> > > pauper (

> > > > > > a theoretical comparison).Also what about twins?

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Kartik

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology, Panditji

> > > <navagraha@g...>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Namaste Narayan,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Looks like you are taking sides to defend something

> that

> > has

> > > not

> > > > > > been

> > > > > > > attacked. I know what parashara said in BPHS. He

> > mentioned

> > > about

> > > > > > > divisions and if you say it was in vogue since the

day

> > of

> > > parashar

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > must be really looooong in tooth. You are talking as

> if

> > you

> > > just

> > > > > > had a

> > > > > > > conversation with him. I stand by my statement that

> > > divisional

> > > > > > came in

> > > > > > > vogue after the advent of computers and now even a

> > novice

> > > with one

> > > > > > day

> > > > > > > of training or less can put them up and can write

off

> > pages

> > > about

> > > > > > > which planet is where in which varga and from what

> rashi

> > > dasha he

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > in what house. Whether there are houses in

divisional

> > charts

> > > is a

> > > > > > > debate in itself. I do not know sanjay rath and my

> > intention

> > > was

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > to question his teachings or his grand fathers', as

I

> do

> > not

> > > know

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > teachings. What I commented is based on what I have

> seen

> > a

> > > few on

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > list who say they are beginners just go on and on

> about

> > > divisionals

> > > > > > > and dashas in divisionals as if there was no

tomorrow.

> I

> > put

> > > out my

> > > > > > > opinion for others to read, they can make their own

> > > judgements

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > whatever technique they want to use. If you want to

> use

> > 5

> > > kinds of

> > > > > > > dashas and 5 kinds of lagnas to arrive at a correct

> > > prediction, all

> > > > > > > the power to you. I am presenting what I feel is a

> > approach

> > > that

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > worked for me. Let others be judge of those methods.

I

> > am not

> > > > > > forcing

> > > > > > > any technique down anyone's throat. I do have an

> opinion

> > and

> > > an

> > > > > > > methodology( Which is not invented by me, but has

been

> > > taught by

> > > > > > great

> > > > > > > astrologers like KN RAo, Nandan Chirmulay, BV

> > Raman..etc.),

> > > why

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > you or anyone feel threatened by it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > People ask questions on this list and if I have time

> and

> > > > > > inclination I

> > > > > > > answer to the best of my ability. While doing so, I

> feel

> > I

> > > have to

> > > > > > put

> > > > > > > my opinions out there for people on the list to

read.

> I

> > have

> > > not

> > > > > > > criticized any astrologer on the list, thats not my

> > style.

> > > But if I

> > > > > > > have differences of opinion with a methodology I

voice

> > my

> > > opinion.

> > > > > > Let

> > > > > > > the members of the list decide what they want to

use.

> > Your

> > > methods

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > be good for you, why are you threatened if someone

> puts

> > out

> > > there

> > > > > > > views on the subject.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:15:35 -0000, naaraayana_iyer

> > > > > > > <narayan.iyer@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Namaste Panditji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Panditji <navagraha@g...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Namaste,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > These principles are a work in progress. It

would

> > > surprise me

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > they have been tested on tons of charts.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As with any field of knowledge, there are always

> > > principles,

> > > > > > idioms,

> > > > > > > > patterns, which will be formed and would be

> subjected

> > to

> > > > > > testing! On

> > > > > > > > what basis did you jump to conclusion that these

> > > principles have

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > been tested adequately?? It could be entirely

> probable

> > that

> > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > principles are a "work in progress", for that

matter

> no

> > > > > > principles

> > > > > > > > work 100% and research is required! It could also

be

> > > entirely

> > > > > > > > probable that the chart could need some

> rectification.

> > One

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > have an open mind. For that matter, even your

> > principles

> > > are

> > > > > > > > subjected to testing and cannot be relied upon! If

> > thats

> > > the

> > > > > > matter,

> > > > > > > > then you would be an "Expert/Rishi"

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > To begin with the divisionals came

> > > > > > > > > into vogue after the advent of computer programs

> > which

> > > made

> > > > > > > > > calculation of them fast. In the precomputer

> days,by

> > the

> > > time

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > calculated all these accurately and verified,

the

> > jatak

> > > would

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > been long gone. So this phenomenon is from the

> past

> > few

> > > years

> > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > > don't see evidence of its unversal applicability

> or

> > even

> > > > > > > > > applicability

> > > > > > > > > in 75 percent of the cases. I am sure there will

> be

> > one

> > > or two

> > > > > > > > charts

> > > > > > > > > where it will fit perfectly. But as they say

here

> in

> > the

> > > great

> > > > > > cold

> > > > > > > > > north, "One Robin does not make a spring".

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > For your esteemed information, Divisionals were in

> > vogue

> > > since

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > days of Parasara, infact, right at the start, he

> > defined

> > > and

> > > > > > gave

> > > > > > > > meaninings to all divisionals upto D-60 or

> Shastiamsa!

> > Are

> > > you

> > > > > > > > saying that Maharishis defined it and talked about

> it

> > so

> > > that we

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > pass our idle time or do you think they had

nothing

> > better

> > > to

> > > > > > do???

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Even in the past, AStrologers have gone into the

> > depths of

> > > > > > > > calculation, for example Pt Jagannath Rath,

> > grandfather of

> > > Pt

> > > > > > Sanjay

> > > > > > > > Rath, used to MANUALLY calculate all divisions,

> > and ... you

> > > > > > would be

> > > > > > > > surprised, dasas upto deha level, which is the 6

> > levels

> > > deep!

> > > > > > > > Ofcourse, these calculations consume a lot of

time,

> > and

> > > hence,

> > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > would limit themselves to a couple of charts. Most

> of

> > the

> > > times,

> > > > > > > > these charts are prepared in advance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ofcourse, there are Astrologers who would restrict

> > > themselves to

> > > > > > > > Rasi & Navamsa and make accurate predictions, and

> they

> > do

> > > rely a

> > > > > > lot

> > > > > > > > on their intuition. If we restrict ourselves to

Rasi

> &

> > > Navamsa,

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > better hope and pray for good solid intuition! Oh

> > yes ...

> > > by the

> > > > > > > > way ... even those who restrict themselves to Rasi

&

> > > Navamsa,

> > > > > > > > flexibly twist their principles to suit the

results,

> > if not

> > > > > > lagna,

> > > > > > > > then chandra lagna ... so on and so forth!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Point is ... serious minded & honest research is

> > required

> > > to

> > > > > > come up

> > > > > > > > with principles and then these should be tested

> > > thoroughly. SJC

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > in the process of doing it ... although there is

no

> > formal

> > > > > > process

> > > > > > > > for it. We will be taking this matter seriously in

> the

> > > coming

> > > > > > years!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Another point, Pt Sanjay Rath doesn't like to

spoon

> > > feed ... he

> > > > > > > > likes/expects his student to think thoroughly, to

> whet

> > > their

> > > > > > > > intelligence! Nothing comes easy ... Adversity

> breeds

> > > CHARACTER!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > New parameters are introduced to fit the event

> which

> > is

> > > > > > already

> > > > > > > > known.

> > > > > > > > > On this list some time back one had an example

of

> > > father's

> > > > > > death.

> > > > > > > > For

> > > > > > > > > that they used 7th from 9th from sun in

> > dwadashansha. Now

> > > > > > why ? Why

> > > > > > > > > not 7th from 9th from ravi in rashi chart ?Then

> why

> > not

> > > 2nd

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > 9th

> > > > > > > > > from ravi. Then one can use arudh lagna of d-12

if

> > one

> > > does

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > find

> > > > > > > > > it there , then aurdh of 9th in rashi then arudh

> of

> > 9th

> > > in D-

> > > > > > 12. It

> > > > > > > > > can get confusing very fast.This way one can

cover

> > all 12

> > > > > > rashis

> > > > > > > > and I

> > > > > > > > > am sure the graha whose dasha you are running at

> the

> > > time of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > known

> > > > > > > > > event will be there in one of those.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am sure, not even Maharishi Jaimini was

spoonfed!!

> > He

> > > too must

> > > > > > > > have exprimented, just like Pt. Sanjay Rath, KN

Rao

> > and

> > > come up

> > > > > > with

> > > > > > > > idioms & principles. And as I said before, I am

not

> > sure,

> > > if

> > > > > > even

> > > > > > > > you have a fool-proof methodology of predicting

> > events,

> > > without

> > > > > > > > beating around the bush!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > My point is ,test priciples on charts you have

and

> > > develop a

> > > > > > > > > consistent principle applicable to atleast 75

> percent

> > > > > > cases.Then

> > > > > > > > make

> > > > > > > > > it a principle. Do not make rules as you go

based

> on

> > the

> > > chart

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > have in front of you.BTW there are principles

that

> > have

> > > been

> > > > > > > > developed

> > > > > > > > > by peope like KN Rao, BV Raman, master those

> first.

> > > Trust me

> > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > > in majority of cases

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Principles, should especially be tested on the

basis

> of

> > > > > > probability,

> > > > > > > > like Narasimha said, if the likelihood of an event

> > > happening is

> > > > > > high

> > > > > > > > and if you give a numerous paramters explaining

the

> > event,

> > > these

> > > > > > > > principles are not probabalistically valid,

although

> > they

> > > may be

> > > > > > > > statistacally valid!!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Like explaining, the chara dasa aspecting chara

> > Bhratri

> > > Karak

> > > > > > caused

> > > > > > > > birth of siblings!! I consider that an incomplete

> and

> > a

> > > totally

> > > > > > > > inadequate research!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Warm Regards

> > > > > > > > Narayan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:02:57 -0000, mikefranc01

> > > > > > <mtravass@t...>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi Narasimha,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I applied the same logic in my chart and it

> shows

> > > something

> > > > > > else.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The time when my car was almost totaled (March

> > 1993,)

> > > I was

> > > > > > > > running

> > > > > > > > > > Cn-Li Narayana dasa of D16, 4th from A4.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The second time I met with an accident was in

> Dec

> > 1996

> > > and I

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > running Aq-Li Narayana dasa of D16.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Both the accidents took place in zone 4:00:00

> > (East of

> > > GMT).

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I cannot apply any of the principles that you

> > stated

> > > in your

> > > > > > > > email

> > > > > > > > > > unless there are others, which can be applied,

> and

> > you

> > > did

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > state.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Could you assist here?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Mike

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > November 14, 1963

> > > > > > > > > > Time: 14:03:00

> > > > > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > > > > Place: 73 E 55' 00", 15 N 18' 00"

> > > > > > > > > > Margao, Goa, India

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > vedic-

> astrology, "Narasimha

> > > P.V.R.

> > > > > > Rao"

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > <pvr@c...> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > > > > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:53 PM

> > > > > > > > > > > Shodasamsa Narayana dasa (Re:

> Accident

> > > schematic)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > D16 is the chart for all Sukha and Hence

> Cars

> > come

> > > under

> > > > > > > > this.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Here is some jist for analysing all yogas

> > > > > > (combinations) in

> > > > > > > > D16

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. A4 is to be considered for Cars. Here

> A4

> > > should be

> > > > > > > > taken in

> > > > > > > > > > D16.

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. 6th and 8th house cause worries and

> > anxieties

> > > > > > > > respectively,

> > > > > > > > > > in D16 they

> > > > > > > > > > > > will show for matters related to cars

> and

> > > other

> > > > > > sukha.

> > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Marakas to sign of A4 will destroy the

> car.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Marakas primarily being 2nd and 7th.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Dasas which will activate the

Yoga's

> > > mentioned

> > > > > > above.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Add badhaka sthana in shodasamsa also as a

> > potential

> > > > > > problem

> > > > > > > > sign.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > My birthdata is: 4th April 1970, 5:47:13 pm

> > (IST),

> > > > > > > > Machilipatnam,

> > > > > > > > > > India

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I had a vehicular accident on 5th December

> 1996

> > at

> > > 6:30 pm

> > > > > > > > (EST),

> > > > > > > > > > Wilmington, MA. I was not hurt, but the car

> > > was "totalled".

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As per D-16 Narayana dasa, this happened in

Li-

> Ta

> > > > > > antardasa.

> > > > > > > > In my

> > > > > > > > > > D-16, Ta is the badhaka sthana and contains

> > 3rd/12th

> > > lord

> > > > > > > > Mercury and

> > > > > > > > > > nodes. It is the 12th house from A4, showing

the

> > loss

> > > of a

> > > > > > > > vehicle.

> > > > > > > > > > It is also the 8th house from the 4th house,

> > showing

> > > > > > problems in

> > > > > > > > > > sukha.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Those who are into the three parts of rule

of

> > > Narayana

> > > > > > dasa

> > > > > > > > > > interpretation can test that too. Mahadasa

sign

> Li

> > is a

> > > > > > > > seershodaya

> > > > > > > > > > rasi. So it gives its results in the first one-

> > third.

> > > Its

> > > > > > lord

> > > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > > is also in a seershodaya rasi (Le). So he

gives

> > his

> > > results

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > second one-third. The last one-third gives the

> > results

> > > of

> > > > > > > > occupants

> > > > > > > > > > and aspectors. There are four candidates and

> they

> > are

> > > Venus,

> > > > > > > > Rahu,

> > > > > > > > > > Ketu and Mercury in the order of longitudes.

We

> > divide

> > > the

> > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > one-

> > > > > > > > > > third of the dasa into 4 equal parts and give

> them

> > to

> > > these

> > > > > > 4

> > > > > > > > planets

> > > > > > > > > > in this order. The result of Rahu's aspect on

> > mahadasa

> > > sign

> > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > given

> > > > > > > > > > in Oct 1996-Aug 1997. Rahu is the 8th lord,

> > occupies

> > > badhaka

> > > > > > > > sthana

> > > > > > > > > > and aspects the 4th house of vehicles Libra.

So

> > the

> > > sub-

> > > > > > period

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > question resulted in vehicle problems. Not

only

> > did I

> > > have

> > > > > > an

> > > > > > > > > > accident in Dec 1996, but the new car I bought

> in

> > Jan

> > > 1997

> > > > > > > > suffered

> > > > > > > > > > too. It was hit by people twice when it was

> parked

> > in a

> > > > > > parking

> > > > > > > > lot.

> > > > > > > > > > I did not see who hit it, but someone hit it

> > twice.

> > > After

> > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > repeated incidents, I sold that "unlucky" car

> and

> > > bought

> > > > > > another

> > > > > > > > new

> > > > > > > > > > car in Sept 1997. All these are due to the sub-

> > period

> > > giving

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > results of Rahu's aspect on Li. It so happened

> > that the

> > > > > > > > antardasa was

> > > > > > > > > > also of Ta, which contains Rahu.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As per Vimsottari dasa also, it was Mercury-

> Ketu

> > > antardasa.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > In my annual Tithi Pravesha chart of 1996-

97,

> D-

> > 16

> > > had Leo

> > > > > > > > rising,

> > > > > > > > > > lagna lord Sun in 6h (!!) with 6th lord

Saturn,

> > Rahu

> > > and

> > > > > > Ketu.

> > > > > > > > Saturn-

> > > > > > > > > > Saturn antardasa as per annual Tithi

Ashtottari

> > dasa

> > > was

> > > > > > running

> > > > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > > > Dec 3 to Dec 6. Accident was on Dec 5!

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The technique of Tithi Pravesha never seizes

> to

> > > amaze me!

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> > > > > > > > > > > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

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